As Promised! Book Excerpt: One Love Two Colours

As Promised! Book Excerpt: One Love Two Colours

“Colours.” Those Brits are so fancy, aren’t they? Skip the Lifetime Movie and take a read. Every flick is SO formulaic. You KNOW she/he gets it in the end anyway. Sorry…did I spoil the movie for you?

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“Colours.” Those Brits are so fancy, aren’t they? Skip the Lifetime Movie and take a read.  Every flick is SO formulaic. You KNOW she/he gets it in the end anyway.  Sorry…did I spoil the movie for you?

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Sample Chapters: One Love Two Colours: The unlikely marriage of a Punk Rocker & his African Queen. Buy the book here.

Margaret – First Impressions of Bobby:

I should explain that, prior to Bobby, I had only ever dated Nigerian Yoruba (my ethnic group) men, and so couldn’t understand his strange English eccentricities. He was very much a step into the unknown for a woman used to the Yoruba way of doing things.

After my long-term relationship with my previous boyfriend failed, I became totally disillusioned with all men. I seriously looked into becoming a nun. Yep, it was that bad. I had signed up to the ‘all men are bastards’ school and did not want to know them anymore. But then Bobby had the nerve to ask me out. I answered ‘yes’ to his question at the time, it was early morning at work, but spent the whole day regretting it. What have I done? I kept asking myself over and over. Yes, he is a nice man, yes, I get on with him, but…

He was white!

On this point I should explain that I had been asked out twice before by white men but had refused their invitation. In my head I kept on imagining they only wanted me as an ‘exotic experiment’ or a sexual plaything. So the two men in question were given short shrift. In all honesty, I actually felt insulted by their suggestion.

Looking back now with hindsight, I realise my hostile reaction was prompted by the myth that African women, who go out with white men, are prostitutes. I used to work with a Congolese woman, and she told me African women, who date white men in the Congo, all wear fake hair, have long nails, short skirts and high heels – classic prostitute garb. Taken by itself, this could be dismissed as an innocent, albeit ignorant, comment. Only this was not an isolated case. I heard similar words from Africans whose country of origin was not the Democratic Republic of Congo.

However, I do empathise with them because I once shared similar beliefs. For I myself was brought up to be a proud Yoruba woman destined to marry a Yoruba man and have his children. So no, I could not do it; I could not cross the colour line. At the time, I tried to pass it off as a cultural thing and not the prejudice it quite clearly was. But then, along came Bobby.

The irony is I had purposely moved to Enfield, North London, from Brighton so that I would meet more Nigerian men. And here I was arranging to go ‘out’ with a white man – and a camp punk rocker at that! What would my parents say? Come to think of it – what would anyone’s parents say?

Bobby: Sex chapter:

So, why then am I attracted to Margaret? What is it about her that puts a spring into my genitalia? I should confess here that I never found her attractive in a sexual sense when we first stepped out as a couple. In fact, my confession needs to be extended, as I never found black women remotely attractive. It sounds funny to write this, I know, but that was the truth for me growing up. I have tried to rationalise this now, and can only imagine it was because I was never around black people in general. Stuck in my own private white environment, I never saw black people as being part of my life. I had no negative feelings towards them, they just never entered my world. Instead my teenage years were spent lusting after white icons such as Glynis Barber (Soolin in Blake’s 7) or Elizabeth Sladen (Sarah in Doctor Who) rather than Naomi Campbell. But then Margaret entered my life and a brave new world opened up.

Although not a ‘hot babe’, Margaret was pretty enough in a plain Jane type of way, but nothing that really stirred the loins, although her breasts were impressive and her mouth blossomed into a chubby entrance to joy. It was only when I got to know her character and saw her compassion for others that I noticed a feeling of desire towards her. Recognising a winning lottery ticket when it came up, she responded to me in a physical sense and our relationship deepened. It was her soul, though, rather than her body, that provoked this reaction.

Nowadays, I seem to have gone full circle, as I do not find white or Asian women attractive. I cannot explain it in adequate words, but for me only big-bottomed black women (not that they all possess large gluteus maximus) hit the spot. So, how come my opinion changed regarding the beauty of black women?  My ‘crossing over to the dark side,’ as my mate David Nunn terms it, happened a few years into our marriage. It was a cold February and Margaret had departed for Nigeria to top up her sun tan. During the month she was away, my sex starved eyes had a tendency to flit over any woman my mind deemed attractive. Somewhat to my surprise, I noticed they were all black and mainly West African. How strange, I thought to myself and tried to rationalise it out. So why am I only drawn to these women? For me it is not primarily a sexual motivation. No, it is the general character that I have found in West African women that I find attractive. Not for them inane conversations about celebrities or what clothes to put in the washing machine. In my experience they are more spiritual, serious and more understanding of the suffering that goes on in different continents. It is the basic resilience and humanity that attracts me to these women.

That is not to say they do not talk about washing machines and mundane trivialities, just that they put them into the correct perspective. After all, if you have an extended family to support back ‘home’, what is going to be more important to you, a net curtain or a plate full of food on the table? By way of contrast, I find too many white women are only interested in tabloid tittle-tattle and soap operas, seemingly ignorant of the world around them. A generalisation I accept, but one I see every day of the week.

Then again, perhaps I am drawn to black women as Margaret has been the only woman who has shown me any affection? Maybe, because of this, my brain has eliminated white and Asian women from my heart, penis and eyes, as I have never enjoyed satisfactory relations with such women?

It may even be down to the fact that I have been surrounded by black women for these past few years with only a sprinkling of white and Asian females to aid my diversity.

It is quite obvious to me that I am now so immersed with the beauty of black women that I fail to recognise beauty in others; I have succumbed to the idea that ‘black don’t crack’ and can never envisage a situation where I would shack up with a white lady. I guess, at the heart of it, I just love the smell of cocoa butter on a woman’s skin! I suppose my one dimensional outlook on beauty is not healthy in the long-term but all the above are contributory factors for my unconscious decision.

Segregation: Margaret

Equally, I have a lot of single black female friends, who would like nothing better than to nurture a home for a loving man. Instead of a man they come home to four empty walls. I may have a degree in economics but anyone with even half a CSE in Maths should be able to work out this equation. But no, instead of looking elsewhere for partners, we seek solace in the Church and believe in the myth of the strong black woman. A woman who takes her lot from life and perseveres in the face of adversity. The Maya Angelou, if you like; taking crap from people and rising above the petty narrow mindedness of others. The irony is I have heard many black men say they admire the ‘strong black woman’. Until, that is, they find themselves drawn to the blond haired lady from the local club or pub. This ‘strength’ is then put away in the box labelled ‘keeping it real’, whilst the reality of lonely ‘sisters’ passes them by.

Segregation: Bobby

So, how come mixed marriages are not more common? In some ways they are. According to the Office for National Statistics, via their census of April 2001, 219,000, of the 10.3 million married couples who completed the census, were classified as ‘inter ethnic’. Patterns of ‘inter ethnic’ marriage were broadly similar with one exception; black women were less likely to marry outside their ethnic group. Whilst 48 per cent of black men born in England married a woman from outside their ethnic group only 33 per cent of black women did. The census in America showed a similar outcome. So why the discrepancy? Why do black women appear so reluctant to date outside of their race?

I have already covered some of the issues regarding this – slavery and the sexual myths. Other factors also come into play. A black female friend of mine said she would never date a white man because she wouldn’t know what to do with him. She felt it would be a step into the unknown.

Another black lady – who was asked out by a white male friend of mine – replied that, although she liked the man in question she could not do it because of what her family might think.

My old friend, David Nunn, had problems of a similar nature. He was dating a Nigerian origin woman for six months. During their entire relationship, the lady in question had to keep their liaison a secret, as she was scared of what her parents might say.

Yet another lady, (Keisha, an ex-friend of Margaret’s) could not do ‘it’, as her mother warned her at an early age she could never date a white man.  She was told that, however bad a black man may treat her, she must accept it, as she is a black woman.

One of Margaret’s black colleagues was also told by her mother when she was a teenager, to ‘never date either a Rastafarian or a white man.’

Our near neighbour Sheena, whilst herself being open to dating outside of her race, was gently reminded by her uncle that she was best off not having a white boyfriend.

When news of Margaret dating me first broke at work, her friend, Sylvia, was working with a young black lady. Unfortunately for her, she did not realise Margaret was one of Sylvia’s closest friends. She, therefore, put her foot in the proverbial ‘it’, when she told Sylvia that Margaret was wrong for going out with a white man.

I give all these examples to prove, albeit on a local level, that many black women do have an aversion to dating white men. So, is this resistance justified? No. Although I can understand some of the objections, as in the first two examples, they are still wrong. I would actually find it easier to accept if they just said, ‘I don’t find white men attractive.’ By giving these excuses, the women are helping to keep barriers up in society.

As for the ‘I must suffer because I am a black woman’ bit, how is this taking forward issues that affect black women? Sorry, but why exactly should they have to suffer? Given that black men are dating outside of their race so much, why can’t black women follow suit?

Margaret also informs me that a lot of black African women are put off dating white men because we are perceived as lacking in one important area: religion. To be fair this is true. For whatever reason, a lot of white men are not religious in the same sense that many black women are. I can at least understand why people object on these grounds, as religion can be too important to be compromised via the fragility of human emotions.

Another reason to object, is the notion that some white men seek black women as partners to prove their anti-racist credentials, that they are ‘colour-blind’ and contributing towards racial harmony – by dating someone who is non-white. Of course, if this was the case, who in their right mind would want to step out and be patronised by a liberal whitey type who was feeling guilty over the slave trade? You can imagine the conversation, ‘oh my pretty ethnic girl I am so sorry for the crimes my ancestors committed against yours in the past, please forgive my poor white soul and let me worship your black beauty’. Sorry, but this is ridiculous, not to mention deeply offensive. Most black girls I know would prefer to dress up in a fancy number from Primark, rather than wear the sackcloth and ashes conferred on them by the white liberals.

Black peer pressure also applies its squeeze on black women who are tempted to stray to the ‘white man’. Margaret had a classic case of this within the past year. She was talking to a black teenager named Simone and the subject of relationships reared its complicated head. Simone inquired of Margaret if it was true that Nigerian men looked after ‘their’ women better than Caribbean origin men. Margaret, as is her way with any young woman, told her to forget about men until she was at least twenty-five!

Poor Simone, unused to Margaret’s feminist style rantings (my wife’s dream job would be penis amputator!), persisted with her line of questioning. Margaret told her not to believe everything she had heard about Nigerian men. She went on to say that Simone should consider dating other men.

‘You mean someone who isn’t black?’ asked a wide-eyed and incredulous Simone.

Margaret merely said, ‘You should keep your eyes open to any colour.’

Simone considered for a second and said, ‘No, I couldn’t go out with a white man, I love my black ‘brothers’ too much.’

Margaret didn’t answer and merely gave Simone one of her ‘don’t mess with Auntie Margaret’ looks.

To deflect attention away from her, Simone changed tack and innocently asked Margaret who she was married to. Margaret smiled and showed my handsome picture to her. Surprisingly, Simone smiled back.

Why all the smiles? Was it a picture of me in my birthday suit, proud and erect for all to see?

No.

The reason for the all round bonhomie was that Simone was actually dating a white Frenchman at the time but was too scared to admit it! It was only when Margaret played her hand and revealed me as her husband that she confessed the truth.

This is so sad, how many other black women are hiding white men as partners around the country? Are we doomed to be forever lurking in the shadows, only coming out when the coast is clear?

Simone went on to tell Margaret that she had also experienced the stares and kissing of teeth from other black women when out with her boyfriend. This was the reason for her not coming clean about her ‘Jean Paul’. It was only when Margaret admitted that she, too, had joined the ‘Milky Bar’ club that she felt confident enough to do so.

Peer pressure. Pah! As they say in France.

It seems that, everywhere one looks, black women are imbued with a fear of the ‘white man’ when it comes to finding a partner.

I see that even the humble email has its part to play in the racial dating game. My wife received an email this year entitled Love the Black Woman, Respect the Black Woman and only date the Black Woman. It included the following lines;

Only a Black Woman: Can make a black man and his non-black date feel nervous without saying a word.

Only a Black Woman: Can be admired and fantasized about by men of other races.

Only a Black Woman: Can make other women want to pay plastic surgeons and tanning salons hundreds and thousands of pounds for physical features she was already born with.

Only a Black Woman: Can be the mother of civilisation.

Propaganda bullshit! Although its main vitriol is aimed at black men who stray away from ‘sisters’, the email has only one message; segregation. I dare say that many readers of this book have probably also read such a mail. Quite clearly the words of Love the Black Woman are meant to act as a defensive mechanism to promote the notion of black female strength and beauty. I have absolutely no problem with this, and indeed have tried to do the same with my writing in this book. But, the people who swallow this part of the email confuse black female strength as being anti to those of us who do cross race. How many more times do I have to read about the ‘fantasy’ myth? Why is this crap still believed by so many? If you extend this then, surely, I should be seen as a ‘fantasy’ for black women?

My brother-in-law shed further light on why black women are reluctant to date white men. He told me many Nigerian women talk to him, asking for help in finding a husband as there is a shortage of Nigerian men in England. He always suggests to them that if they cannot find a Nigerian they should consider dating a white man. Without exception, they don’t entertain this as an option. White men are so far off the radar; we are just not thought of as potential boyfriends. Indeed, we are just not recognised as sexual beings at all. Instead, we are seen as a race of latent homosexuals with a penchant for clasping onto mother’s apron!

He then went on to tell me that the women he speaks to can’t even understand why white men would find them attractive. Well, all I can say by way of response is; wake up, ‘sisters’ of the world, ‘we’ do!

Eventually, though, this reluctance to ‘cross over’ will change. If the statistics are correct and half of black men are marrying outside of their race, it stands to reason there must be a lot of single black women and white men knocking around in England. Through circumstances beyond their control they are being squeezed into the same lonely corner.

As a consequence, the next few years, I believe, will see an explosion in this type of coupling. You only have to check the personal ads in the local paper for confirmation of this. Certainly, where I live, many black women are now requesting white men as partners. Crucially, most of the women are over the age of thirty. It is almost as if these older women have given up waiting for ‘black love’ and so are looking further afield. This is progress but I still find it difficult to understand why so many young black women are averse to dating white men.

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My first experience dating a BW was in 1980, in college. At the time, I was becoming interested in dating black women but encountered many BW who would not date me because they thought it was wrong. Gradually that changed. By the 1990's I hardly ever heard it. By then I was dating black women almost exclusively, which continued until I got married.

I would like to add to the discussion by posting this video made by 4 young ladies from my hometown....it discusses 'Shadeism'....within our communities, whether Asian, African, Caribbean, etc.

Part I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6oaEHsdhOs

Part II

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBukJHyV_sk&feature=related

Here is the interesting thing about the UK which no one has mentioned yet. In the UK there are three principle ethnic groups: Black, White and Asian (Indian, Pakistani, and Bangladeshi). Most Asian are inaccessible to blacks or whites. They are even inaccessible to other Asians based on ethnicity and religion. When blacks or whites step out to date inter racially, it will be with other blacks or whites. In the US it is radically different. There are whites, Asians (East Asian) Hispanics, and blacks. When we step out in the US we can go in three different directions. The inter racial dynamic is different in both countries.

"Looking back now with hindsight, I realise my hostile reaction was prompted by the myth that African women, who go out with white men, are prostitutes. I used to work with a Congolese woman, and she told me African women, who date white men in the Congo, all wear fake hair, have long nails, short skirts and high heels – classic prostitute garb. "

Not an entirely unreasonable position. White men in Africa, outside of long standing settled communities are there as diplomats, UN Peacekeepers, contractors etc. Basically men who are transient and there for work without their spouses. They are probably looking toward the Native women for sex. The Chinese who are invading Africa may soon be accessing the same pool of women for the very reason. I have seen it in Haiti. Also there are many African women, illegal migrants, prostituting themselves on the streets of Spain and Italy having gotten there and now looking for fast money or to claim asylum.

"This is so sad, how many other black women are hiding white men as partners around the country?"

Pretty hyperbolic. Especially when you consider that there are probably women in the UK largely Indian subcontinent Asian who might in fact be having to hide their boy friends for fear of family violence.

‘No, I couldn’t go out with a white man, I love my black ‘brothers’ too much.’

Maybe she is just more attracted to black men and therefore wants to be with one above and beyond any other man. This is the position of most women on planet earth.

This whole post was riddled with boring cliches. Its the same record over and over. Mention slavery, how many black men are with white women and have some black woman talking about how her particular white man is the best thing since the polio vaccine.

I agree with your comments re how difficult it can be for white or black people to form relationships with Asian men or women - see the website www.mixtogether.org for true life examples. The point about 'I love my black brothers too much' is to show that black women feel pressurised to stick to their own race, not to show that one race is better than another.
The polio vaccine has done more for world peace than any interracial marriage.

No I dont think so. Black women dont feel pressured thats just who they like. What is so reactionary about it? Talk about pressure, compare White people, because of political correctness arent even allowed to state that they would only date white people without being branded as racist. The reaction to the OKCupid study was about disgruntled ethnics upset that white people want other white people as much as non whites want white people. Thats a luxury only non whites have of being able to have their own.

I have to say I'm confused QueenofNewcastle. At first I thought you guys were still talking about the UK (will you kill me if I say that, lol? I know some people still hate that). But when you talk about OKcupid, that makes me think you are talking about the states (and specifically the northeast judging by some of the responses in later assessments).

We don't have to get into the specifics of that study, but I can tell you absolutely there is still pressure being exerted upon these women to stick with their own, so to speak. No one, not me, not you or anyone can say what black women feel or don't feel; it really runs the gambit here. Some people really do have a preference. Others, like the anecdote about the woman that Bobby shared above (the woman who was hesitant to reveal her boyfriend), do obviously feel coerced to hide, or keep it secret. And again, if we are talking about stateside, you don't have a multiple thread about the abuse that various women who ie date show up if there wasn't serious and real consequences for your choices in who you date/marry.

Now we could discuss whether it is external, or internal based on surrounding - that could be a whole 'nother thread entirely; drives are complicated indeed. But they clearly do feel pressure (at least a substantial group of them), whether or not they choose to fight or acquiesce.

And who you preference in dating is a preference that most everyone enjoys in the states - whites have it too. The U.S. is big on preference, its in our country's dna. So if a wm, for instance, said he preferred white female secretaries, he would catch all flak. But if he said he preferred to date white females, not many would bat an eye. And of course there are always exceptions, but I am talking generally.

I hate to do tit-for-tat but I did interview lots of black women who said they did feel pressurised to 'conform' to what was expected of them, with regards to relationships. The pressure comes from within families and friends and also from 'dirty' looks from strangers on the street. This last point really does happen - Margaret and I have had to verbally fight back on many occasions. To deny this happens is unfair on those of us who have to confront prejudice on the streets, as we go about our ordinary day to day lives. Of course, such peer pressure also exists in other races, it is just that - in our experience - the prejudice is kept better hidden (not that this makes it correct).

I wanna say that as a young African American woman ( early 20's) alot is changing and coming to light. Alot of my close girlfriends are dating interracially regardless of what family and outsiders believe.I have been happily dating my wonderful boyfriend for a while who is of Irish and German decent and couldn't be more happier. I thank God for bringing him in my life and if I were stupid enough to let color be involved in my decision to be with him, I'd be missing out on a wonderful human being. Your book seems touching and I loved how you touched on different issues that come to surface with the first steps of "crossing over" as you put it. Keep up the good work.

Yet more thanks (I am running out of them - so many kind comments on here).
We thought right from the start that the book could not be just about us, given the historical background of black women/white men relationships. Issues like race, racism, identity, sex and religion are all mixed up in our story. The only way I could fully understand Margaret was to understand the journey that had brought her to England, via colonialism.
I must admit, it can be hard for some white people to understand the importance of race, given that they tend to have more positions of power in the western world, but it is always there, bubbling away underneath mixed marriages. I felt it was better to embrace it right from the start, rather than get a surprise 20 years down the line.

My fiance was always interested in the African culture. It was his minor in college. I think it is very important, especially in an IR relationship for each individual in the relationship to know how important race is. If you are going to go into a relationship that may or may not lead to more critism (especially BW/WM relationships) Race and the orgin of your lover is important. Race, racism, identity, sex and religion are all important in a relationship and it is even more important to understand where each individual is coming from in area.

"Although not a ‘hot babe’, Margaret was pretty enough in a plain Jane type of way, but nothing that really stirred the loins... It was only when I got to know her character and saw her compassion for others that I noticed a feeling of desire towards her... It was her soul, though, rather than her body, that provoked this reaction..."

Wait a minute! I need a moment of silence ________________________

Better, lol. But seriously, even more than all the items about ie-ing (which I enjoyed greatly) those bits gave me the most hope!! A man, who actually can judge a woman by her character, by her soul, and not just looks, or the ubiquitous "I don't JUST want a beautiful woman," blah, blah, blah? Worth his weight in gold I say! :D Your wife is a lucky woman. I could just be hanging around the wrong folk, but it seems there is an almost over-emphasis on the visual these days, and it is not just what you find in the media. So thank you for your honesty - it was encouraging. And I always say if one exists, there has to me more.

"He then went on to tell me that the women he speaks to can’t even understand why white men would find them attractive. Well, all I can say by way of response is; wake up, ‘sisters’ of the world, ‘we’ do!"

I don't know about others, but for me that is what we need to hear and see more. I know there is always a focus on what the family will think and such, (a big deterrent, especially when you are very close to them) but I myself have always been ready to contradict the family over that, because I thought it was just wrong. I was always open to dating whomever. But I didn't seriously think about wm specifically because I just didn't think they were interested. At all. In the least. Especially plain Jane me. I wonder if that was verbalized more loudly, more consistently these days, if even more people - who may have been heavily deterred not to think about it - would change their minds?

Mind you that is the opinion from a gal who is stateside, commenting on the stateside. At a 30+% intermarry rate, that actually seems huge compared to the U.S.'s just around 8%. And it was really interesting looking at this from another country and culture's pov. I wonder when (I am tempted to say if, but I am trying to be optimistic, lol) the U.S. will finally begin to drop ethnicity as the end all be all, and see each other as americans first?

"The funny thing is that publishers, in the UK, turned us down so many times as we were told our story would not sell – as black women/white men stories are not ‘sexy’ enough. They went on to say that happy stories about interracial relationships are not needed. Only negative ones."

If that isn't a reason for me to buy the book, I don't know what else is, lol! But that really does sicken me - especially since it seems like everyone and their mother is writing a book these days. I could gladly do with this one, and a LOT LESS of the others.

So thanks for the blog posts, and the book excerpt! Interesting and informative all around.

Thanks for the compliments - I am blushing. Maybe it's because I am also a plain looker, who doesn't bling himself up? I guess I see in Margaret the same qualities that I feel the mirror reflects of myself. Although I am sorry if this comes over as self-flattery.
I always think that physical love has a higher degree of success if the brain and heart are in tune first.
Mind you, despite writing that, I still wish Margaret looked like Serena Williams!!
Although I may have to delete that comment when Margaret wakes up!!
Interestingly, Margaret and I, amongst our circle of friends know of 4 other black women/white men relationships. All relationships are now well over 10 years old(all bar one married). Each of the four women told us they were not attracted to the other person for their looks (to start with).
In many ways I feel the media shape the opinion of black women, by that I mean the idea of black beauty is almost laughed at. How many times, for instance, does one read a list of the worlds top 100 sexy women, only to find the list populated by 90% white women? Even I as a white man find that offensive.
I also think the media constantly encourage people to think about their ethnicity, rather than their own personal identity. In England we have to constantly tick boxes as to our racial origin. I always cross it out and write in human being.
Margaret and I also cannot get into this African-American idea either. To us, in England, you are simply Americans - regardless of colour. Is that not a better way to be?
Barriers between people can be crossed, if the spirit is willing.

"In many ways I feel the media shape the opinion of black women, by that I mean the idea of black beauty is almost laughed at. How many times, for instance, does one read a list of the worlds top 100 sexy women, only to find the list populated by 90% white women?"

I was making this same point on a blog to a well known magazine. Alot of there adds, and there list of who is sexy, is mainly White Women. And for the readers of there magazine that are Black, who is in the top list of the sexiest women that look like them? Granted this list is compiled by WW and there idea of what is sexy is different. And in some cases, they feel that they are superior because of the way media portray's them to be so. And when they compile there list, the black women you do see are either of a mixed race, or a very light complexion. Nothing against them but there are many many BW of a darker complexion that are extremly sexy but they are not shown. And like you said " the media shape the opinion of black women." If thee is no positve light shown on BW, that is the only image society will see.

Every time these 'super-babe' lists are published I always look for Serena Williams. Every time she is ignored!
The fascination with light skinned/mixed race models is, of course, another legacy from the slave trade. We debate the whole issue of colour-grading in our book as well, as it is central to issues such as low self-esteem.
In England mixed race adults suffer the highest levels of racism, as they tend to get it from both sides; by the right wingers who see everyone non-white as a threat, but also from dark skinned people - as they are often jealous towards the attention lavished on mixed race/light skinned people. Very unfair, as they cannot help the colour they are born into.
However, supposing a famous white guy announced that he only finds black women attractive, can you imagine the comments directed to him for being an 'exotica' chaser and such like.
I would love some one more famous than I to give it a go.

The funny thing if that was to happen, they would say he had a fetish, or as someone told my fiance (still can't believe they said this) you just haven't found the right white women yet. If a famous white guy or any famous guy of another race would come out and say he prefers dating BW, there would be backlash because there are so many women out there that are vying for his affection and would trun against him for his claim to like BW more then any other race. It's sad to say that this would happen, but I think it would. I would be estactic if I was to hear a famous man of another race say that he favors BW over any other race, but I don't see that happening anytime soon unless the image society and media has changes.

I dont remember Robert De Niro getting much flack for his exclusivity with black women. Ditto, Chris Noth.

I think everyone, or at least some people are just itching to get into the grievance line. Its boring. Some people will get hell, others will not. Then again, people get hell for a lot of things. We arent special.

I'm impressed that 33% of black women in the UK are inter-racially married. Living in the UK briefly and visiting my British relatives have shown me how multicultural the country it is. It seems the dividing line is class rather than race or ethnicity (without forgetting the tribal like politics that always existed between the Welsh v. Scots v. English v. Pakistanis, etc, etc). I remember a study done by a company in the UK and the results published in BBC, Telegraph, etc...about how minorities feel more like they are British citizen 1st, rather than their ethnicity or religion than white Brits. Even though 40% of Brits call themselves atheist or agnostic, it was a fascinating study done in response to the concern over some of the British Muslim youth and the trouble over terrorism.

Margaret: "Looking back now with hindsight, I realise my hostile reaction was prompted by the myth that African women, who go out with white men, are prostitutes. I used to work with a Congolese woman, and she told me African women, who date white men in the Congo, all wear fake hair, have long nails, short skirts and high heels – classic prostitute garb."

Hodan: When I lived in Nairobi during my government internship in 2005, the same sentiment was upheld. Mostly because a lot of these white guys would date young girls, some in their teens and the native had no respect for them. People always say Africans aren't concerned with race, its true, but culturally we do not consider white any better, specially if they try to date 'our women'.

I think the difference in Africa as a continent and those of us who live in the West, is that many meet white men or rainbow men in general on an equal playing field. We meet them in school or at work. We hang out with in different social setting. Many of our families come from educated and financially stable background.....so the stigma of why a white guy dating us or we are dating him is lessened. However, the cultural and religious barrier still exist for our families more so than us.

Bobby: "My old friend, David Nunn, had problems of a similar nature. He was dating a Nigerian origin woman for six months. During their entire relationship, the lady in question had to keep their liaison a secret, as she was scared of what her parents might say.

Yet another lady, (Keisha, an ex-friend of Margaret’s) could not do ‘it’, as her mother warned her at an early age she could never date a white man. She was told that, however bad a black man may treat her, she must accept it, as she is a black woman."

Hodan: do you think its generational? I'm asking this because one of my colleagues is from Manchester in his mid-late 30s and told me about the love of his life: a Muslim Pakistani girl from back in high school. Her family were against it, but her grandfather who held the sway liked him and they would have married if he did not die. Its strange how he is married 2nd time to a white woman, but he still thinks about the girl from his childhood and wonders how she is doing.

From what I observed, a lot of girls or women from my generation or younger (20s) seem to look @ race as a non issue when it comes to dating and marriage. It seems fear over how their parents might react is the stumbling block. Most of the IR marriages in Europe is with black women from Africa, and many of them are in their 30s or 40s. I would love to see a study of how these women, including your wife overcame their fear or hesitance and how their family adjusted to it.

Bobby: "Margaret also informs me that a lot of black African women are put off dating white men because we are perceived as lacking in one important area: religion. To be fair this is true. For whatever reason, a lot of white men are not religious in the same sense that many black women are. I can at least understand why people object on these grounds, as religion can be too important to be compromised via the fragility of human emotions."

Hodan: lol, very true. A lot of my friends whether African, Asian, or Middle Eastern heritage, our stumbling block is religion. Its like why bother when you have to convert the guy, way too much work. All my friends who married 'rainbow' guys all had to either convert to Islam or Hindu/Sikh faith or at lease accept the religous ceremony to be held. Heck even some of them who are Christians had to drag their fiance to church ones in a while.

Here is a great blog written by a fellow Brit and her response to 'black love' bs:

Whose Zooming Who???
http://dateawhiteguy.blogspot.com/2010/01/whose-zooming-who.html

Excellent points, I agree with all of them.
The class line is especially correct, as it is so easy to confuse racial prejudice with that of class prejudice.
Funnily enough, via our own personal experiences, we find that the resistance to interracial marriage/relationships is stronger amongst younger women. Although, with the statistics going the opposite way this may be only a local thing.
With religion it must be a lot harder to marry someone from another faith, rather than an agnostic like myself. Seeing as how I have no faith it would be unfair of me to impose that on our children. They are thus brought up as Christians - i stay at home and make the dinner on a Sunday morning.
To be honest, I am happy with this arrangement, as I get a couple of hours of peace and quiet.

Black men didnt fail pan Africanism because some high profile black men married white women. If pan Africanism was about the "aggregation of the historical, cultural, spiritual, artistic, scientific and philosophical legacies of Africans from past times to the present" how did the marriage patterns of a few high profile black men have an adverse affect on the above? It didnt. You just created a straw man to further disparage black men. Why? Africa isnt a basket case because of who Kwame Nkurumah married. Who Nkurumah married isnt a concern of the average African. Pan Africanist were tasked to bring about certain political, economic, and social benefits for African peoples. If they did that, great, if they didnt ostracize them for that and that only.

That site "dateawhiteguy" seems like an hate site. Not sure why Mrs. Karazin would allow it on hers.

Instead of being stuck with the 'sister soldier' mentality, perhaps it would be better for you to actually comprehend the post by the author of that blog and what the 'context' was. The article isn't about the failure of African countries due to who they married. Rather it discusses and debunks the stupidity of equating who one loves with how a given political or socio-economic struggle should be structured. In other words, black love is often about black men spouting bullshit of black loyalty, while at the same time never practicing it in their own life. Whether its about who they marry, where they live and how much looting they inflict on their communities in Africa, Caribbean or America.

It addresses black women mentality of self sacrifice in the name of some mythical 'black love,' which does NOT serve their interest. It hasn't stopped the male revolutionaries in Africa, Caribbean or North America from living the good life, marrying whomever they wanted, and getting rich and famous on the back of the community they claim to defend and protect.

Ban Africanism is intellectually and politically bankrupt, because its based on the fraud premise that seeks racial solidarity, rather than an active participatory role for the black community based on what region they happen to be from....or the condition of their community.

Sister soldier? Most pan African, male or female ended up with black people. Similarly people grow out of their political posturing of their youth and mainstream themselves. Pan Africanism sounds more like an means to an end not the end itself.

"Rather it discusses and debunks the stupidity of equating who one loves with how a given political or socio-economic struggle should be structured. In other words, black love is often about black men spouting bullshit of black loyalty, while at the same time never practicing it in their own life."

Or rather it was people mistaking, rather superficially that you had to be sexing up a black person to demonstrate how much you love black folks. For instance, Aung San Suu Kyi Burmese political prisoner has a white husband.

Actually black love is about black people celebrating specific (Obamas) black couples. Black love is about poety, art, music etc. and the consumption and distribution thereof. Not sure I ever heard Nkrumuah talk about black love. It seems like a black American thing.

"It addresses black women mentality of self sacrifice in the name of some mythical ‘black love,’ which does NOT serve their interest. "

Ironic considering it is only among black people where black women and black men have gotten all the love she would expect to get. No one is out there to fill this vacuum for black people believe it or not. There are exceptions however but by and large, its others black people, children, friends etc. Perhaps you should read Robert Putnam's expose on diversity. People generally become less open to others the more diversity they are exposed to.

Why the hell would Pan Africanism be based on racial solidarity in Africa? Racial homogeneity was already a forgone conclusion.

Considering the profiles of these men the articles mentioned, I think it is just another case of black women not wanting to see the high status black men leave the community- with their money.

Also, as a Haitian American I can attest that having a black wife or a series of black wives (lovers) does NOT mitigate against corruption and human rights abuses. Duvalier's wife in Haiti, as high yellow as she wanted to be, kept hundreds of fur coats under the Haitian Palace in freezers to retain the quality of her coats in Haiti's tropical weather.

Dam shame that black woman just felt no obligation to the poor women and children of Haiti as she was stock piling fur coats. She also promoted her fellow mulattos to high public offices.

See thats one of the drawbacks of marrying within the country if you are an Africa. Nepotism is rife. The black man or woman will just end up enriching their tribe or family at the expense of the masses. Maybe having a neutral white wife may actually make the place more egalitarian.

QofNC: "Actually black love is about black people celebrating specific (Obamas) black couples. Black love is about poety, art, music etc. and the consumption and distribution thereof. Not sure I ever heard Nkrumuah talk about black love. It seems like a black American thing."

Hodan: perhaps in the 21st CE and the realization of some new age outlook on 'black love'. For one, Obamas aren't synonymous with the evolution of art, music and history of black America v. Africa v. Caribbean. It seems you have a very romantic, almost textbook believe about black culture forgetting its heterogeneous origin and diversity that often has no direct relation to each other. Its NOT about the idea of rooting for any 'black person' who seeks and achieve power as a testimony of how good everything is....ignoring the fact whether such a person actually serves your interest or that of the whole community.

QofNC: "Why the hell would Pan Africanism be based on racial solidarity in Africa? Racial homogeneity was already a forgone conclusion."

Hodan: I'm assuming you are someone who only read or visited Africa as a continent as suppose to those of us who actually came from it via our parents or grandparents. Ban Africanism is a sociopolitical world view, philosophy, and movement which seeks to unify native Africans and those of African heritage into a "global African community". Generally Pan-Africanism calls for a politically and economically unity of African people and those who descend from it.

As you can see ban Africanism is neither practical nor desired by most Africans or blacks, whether they spouse it or not. Africans should start trading within their own neighboring regions before attempting to trade with anyone else. Same goes for the Caribbean.....case and point Haiti and Jamaica, economically and socio-politically destroyed right next to flourishing neighboring countries like Cayman Island or Dominican Republic. The political entity can't even get along with each other let along some utopia vision with Nigerian or Ethiopian political and economic solidarity.

Self interest is what drives humans, let along nations with its domestic issues. Let's not romanticize it, because in that light only endless disappointment will come.

I am going to buy this book. I love the honesty and am amazed that the same propaganda is used to keep black women "in line" no matter where you go in the world.

Thanks for the support. Propaganda will continue unless people raise objections to it. Maybe I am a feminist as well?
This reminds me of a story in the book. Years ago, way before Margaret met me, she had a problem with her TV. The repair guy (I would normally write 'man' but guy sounds more American) fixed her set. He then expected Margaret to have sex with him. When she refused he called her a lesbian and that she should be flattered he had offered to bed her.
Whatever happened to cash for repair work?

Thanks for your comments, we are glad you liked it. Sadly women are indoctrinated and encouraged to feel that they are the property of men, from whatever race they come from. They are not, of course, each is an individual who deserves to be cherished by that special person in their life.

This was a very insightful piece. I have just recently subscribed to this blog and I love it. I am a BW and although I love black men I have been toying with the idea of dating a white man. I have never been approached or even flirted with by a white guy, but the idea intrigues me. My mom once told me to not bring a white man home, but if he treats me the way i deserve and is good to me, she'll just have to deal with it!! A lot of black women have been indoctrinated with those ideals but its articles like this that help shed some light on the fact that love comes in many colors.

I will have to get this book when it comes out. I for one have always been open to IR relationships. I think what was mentioned in the book has alot to do with it. The "what will my parents says." My parents have always taught us it is a persons heart not skin color someone should look at when considering who to love. But I guess there are just alot of people that are still stuck in the slavery mentality, and could never see themselves with someone other then black. But what I always tell people, you can not have someone choose your hapiness. It is up to you to find out what that is. And until you find out that that hapiness can involve someone of another race, thn you will be stuck trying to find the BM like a neddle in a hay stack

Your parents did a great job, to bring you up in such a tolerant household.
Incidentally, you can see a lot more about the book on the UK Amazon site - including some pictures of us.
The funny thing is that publishers, in the UK, turned us down so many times as we were told our story would not sell - as black women/white men stories are not 'sexy' enough. They went on to say that happy stories about interracial relationships are not needed. Only negative ones. We took offence at this and persevered, although, if you see our video, I cannot say that I am particularly sexy!

"The funny thing is that publishers, in the UK, turned us down so many times as we were told our story would not sell – as black women/white men stories are not ‘sexy’ enough."

that's so funny, when was this incident? perhaps they are clueless of the whole genre of literature that goes all the way in to the 70s, but a growing genre in the past 10 yrs of IR stories whether fictional or not. These publishers were idiots since reality says otherwise. I agree though, its up to those who are in or interested in interracial dating to support it with their pocket.

Thank you Hodan for your question. I had lots of rejections in the past three years - even when I had shown how many copies had been sold (it is now on its second print run).
I think it shows how segregated society still is; how little the (mainly) white publishing houses know of 'black' issues.

its their lose.....are most of the publishing companies owned by few? If you can find smaller indie publishers, it might expand you and your wife chances of publishing books.

I really enjoyed the genuine honesty of their story. As a black woman with a white husband; I find it disheartening that so many women of color are not happy and in love.

Thank you for your kind words. We are glad you have found happiness as well.
I think the key to it is that neither Margaret nor I were seeking someone from another race, it is just the way it happened. It was natural love, rather than forced love.

I enjoyed reading this story because these are people who were not sugar-coating anything and they were being honest about their feelings during their courtship. It takes a lot to be that way. I married a Brit nearly 13 years ago and I was the first BW he had ever been involved with. Adding the fact that I was from the U.S., it made things really interesting. It is good that people who are polar opposites can get together and have a successful relationship. Kudos to Bobby and Margaret. Your story is an inspiration.

We are glad you find our story inspirational. We wanted to speak out for all the successful interracial marriages, without wishing to appear too pompous.

I do too find this to be very disheartening about blackwomens so sad.

My apologies, the segregation piece is actually written by me, rather than Margaret, apart from the first paragraph. Thanks.

I changed it, Bobby.