That Awkward Moment When Your Rainbeau’s Black (and IR Married) Friend Hits On You…

That Awkward Moment When Your Rainbeau’s Black (and IR Married) Friend Hits On You…

You WILL NOT believe the NERVE of this guy…

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So, I Finally Met My Boyfriend’s Black Friend*…

I’m going to do this anonymously. If some of you think hard enough, you may be able to figure out who I am. I may even show up in the comments. But the reason I won’t put my name to this officially will become clear after I explain.

My boyfriend, (we’ll call him “Honey”) talks about a really funny guy he met in a seminar once. This guy is more of an acquaintance than a close friend; one whose Facebook posts are often so hilarious, Honey shares them with me. Honey and this guy go for drinks, and party together now and again. We’ll call this friend, who happens to be black, “Homie”.

Saturday afternoon Homie calls to invite Honey out for drinks. I was like, “Cool. Have fun”. As he walked out the door I asked, “Is Homie single?”

“No. He’s married. Very happily, in fact,” he says.

“Well tell that mofo he can’t live vicariously through you!”, I joked. Honey laughed, and went out the door. I logged on, intending to catch up on back episodes of the American version of “The Voice”.

I’d barely watched 2 episodes, when Honey was back. He and Homie had run into a mutual friend (a fashion industry guy I’m quite fond of), and that friend had invited them all to a party. He left Homie in the bar to come home and ask me if I wanted to go too. “I’d like to,” I answered cautiously, “but I don’t want to mess up boys’ night. I mean, do you really want me to come?”

He rolled his eyes. I taught him well.

“Why would I come all the way back here to invite you if I didn’t want you to come?”

As I was getting ready, the doorbell rang. It was Homie. “Oh! This is the girl from New York!!,” he smiles up at me. He was…amusing. A teensy little guy with a big personality. Also, he had used that alone time in the pub to knock a few more back. “Sorry I’m so drunk,” he apologizes. In between small, get-to-know-you talk, he commented on how “clean” my locs were, and on what cute kids Honey and I would make. We laughed and accepted the compliments like you would a gift you don’t know what you’ll do with.

My first cause for alarm was in the car. “Have you read Franz Fanon?”. Homie was referencing the late writer and freedom fighter from Martinique, whose work on Algerian independence, decolonization, and the psycho-political effect racism has on blacks globally greatly inspired me as a young literature student in England. I even taught Wretched of the Earth to undergrads as a PA (professor’s assistant). “I’m offended you would even ask,” I answer, only partially joking.

Partially joking, because like so many other black race men, Fanon was married to a white woman. The only time this ever came to mind was while reading, (and re-reading, and re-reading) Black Skin, White Masks, a book largely about internalized racism. The chapter on “The Woman of Colour and the White Man” still makes me want to fight the air. For a man so brilliant, his logic in this chapter–and his intention in writing it at all–never made sense. Predictably, he alleges that black women ‘pursue’ white men (yes, because that’s what we do) because they want to be white. “It is because the black woman feels inferior that she aspires admittance to the white world,” writes Fanon, in the most obvious case of projection ever. Here was this little alcohol-soaked small fry asking me if I ever heard of Franz Fanon. Nothing good could come of this conversation. Did I mention Homie’s wife is white, too?

So, we reach the party. 90’s pop rings out in the old East German-style hall, and it feels like a high school reunion. Sweet! Except it isn’t long before Homie’s funny drunk is annoying. Honey answers my, “Where’s your friend?”, with, “I don’t care. We should stay away from him.”

If only Homie had stayed away from us. We’re dancing together, Honey and I, when someone approaches from behind, jostling him, and spilling his drink all over hands. It’s Homie. Honey, pissed, goes off to wash his hands. I’m holding both drinks, still swaying to the music. Homie is dancing near me. He leans in and says something. I don’t hear it over the music, so naturally I ask, “What’d you say?”

“I said,” he draws the words out, “If you were mine…”.

“WHAT?”

“I get white bitches for free,” he continues, like I just walk around with extra f*cks to give.

“You mean ‘white bitches’ like your wife?”

Honey comes back before he can answer. I hand Honey his drink, and cozy up under his arm. Homie slinks off. Right here, right now typing, I wish I was making this up.

An hour passes and we’re enjoying the vibes so heavy that I almost forget about the fact that I’ve been involuntarily cast as Matahari in this man’s own personal race treason spy drama. But then Honey goes off to get us fresh drinks, and I’m standing alone against the wall.

“I’m leaving soon”. Mon petite faux Fanon back. I don’t even look at him.

“Cool. Peace.”

“Dance with me one more time”.

“No.”

“Come one, just one more dance.”

“Nig–”, I close my eyes, take a deep breath, and put some bass in the next, “NO.”

He comes in close and tries to pin me against the wall with his body. No one told this fool that massive ego does not count towards body mass. I stick my elbow in his miniature chest, push, and send him stumbling backwards into a few partygoers.

“Ok,” he concedes grandly. “Goodnight.”

He walks off, and turns back seconds later to say, “You’re a good girl.” Mercifully, (for him) he goes for real this time.

Honey returns a few minutes later. “Have you seen Homie?”

I pause. Honey is a big sweetheart but goes alpha male monster over shit like this real quick. I simply say, “he left.”

That was a week ago. I still haven’t said anything. Hence the “anonymity”.  I’ll have to spill these beans eventually, but I do not look forward to it. Homie was really lit. And evidently, HE HATES HIMSELF. Does he really need to get punched in the face on top of it all? His poor mixed children. And his poor wife…

I don’t know. What would you do? I mean, I have to tell Honey what happened…right?

*I should say “one of my boyfriend’s black friends”, but it isn’t as pithy.

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Nonya 210 pts

 astringofpearls 

Hahaaa!  That was one awesome blog!  There is a meme for everything and if it's a meme, then there's a tumblr for that!

nikee 44 pts

yes yes yes but i don't know much of anything 

Brenda55 19451 pts moderator

I think what ieishah did was the right thing to do.  I spoke with my sister recently about a similar incident that she had. Not related to IRR. Both men were black.

 

The harasser was her immediate supervisor. She was dating another man who as it turned out was in a position superior to the harasser. The harasser did not know this however. My sister tried to handle the situation herself . Her boyfriend could sense something was wrong and kept asking her about it. She would not say any thing.

 

It was only what the situation got to be unbearable that my sister spoke up and vented to her boyfriend. He took care of the matter by showing up at the place where she and the harasser worked. The harasser knew by sight who he was. He just did not know that he was my sisters boyfriend and thought it was official business.

 

Not.

 

Her boyfriend walked up to the harasser put his arm around the guy's neck in a head lock and walked him firmly off the the side and had a rather intense discussion with him while continuing to hold the guy in that position.

 

End pf problem.

 

My sister boyfriend was pissed at her also for putting up with the the harassment as long as she did with out saying something to him. “What do you think I'm here for?” was what he asked her. They made up but he asked a good question. Isn't that what your guy is suppose to do? Aren't you supposed to go to him with stuff like this? Shouldn't he be allowed to help? Do we need to be super woman all the time?

 

 

ieishah 779 pts

 Brenda55 Across the board, when it comes to sexual harassment, women need to stop feeling like blowing the whistle is what causes the commotion. We think, "I'll just try to handle it and not cause drama", when the drama, the problem, the ruckus, "the scene", is the harassment. 

nyaw 189 pts

 ieishah WAW!!!! what a story. I think  anyone in a interracial relationship should put their stories together like this and write a book...this is pure drama!

I am sorry that you had to experience that.. Honey should know because as Christleyn say you guys need to start to surround yourself with positive people who support your relationship.

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ieishah 779 pts

 Kia LOL! I made him promise no beat downs. Everything's calm for now. He did call Homie, but he didn't pick up. Like I said, they aren't such great friends, so I think cutting him out is the route we'll go. 

ieishah 779 pts

Free at last. I snitched. I can now come out of hiding, thanks to all of your advice! I needed the therapy of writing this story out, but I didn't expect the quality of the responses I received. I'm a much better writer than verbal communicator, so this had to come first.

 

Anyway, I asked if he'd ever had a girlfriend's friend hit on him. After a few very outrageous stories (the thirst of some women!!), I asked if he snitched. It took a few minutes for it all to click-- "Wait--did this happen with you???". So I snitched. He took it better than I expected...I think...he did leave the apartment for a bit talking about he was getting coffee. I'm pretty sure a call was placed, but I've decided, Kia  and MissFLondonto let the chips fall. Especially since--GET THIS!--Homie had been texting all week to get together again this weekend. Honey ignored the texts, thinking it was strange--they really are not see-you-next-week type of friends.

 

So... Homie really thought I wouldn't tell, and when I didn't, he thought it meant I wanted to see him again? I can't even.... 

 

What have I learned from all of this? People suck. Except for y'all. Y'all are the sh*t.

MissFLondon 655 pts

 ieishah  Kia 

"Anyway, I asked if he'd ever had a girlfriend's friend hit on him"

Great idea. I don't think I would have thought of that one. I think he had a chance to see how absurd the situation is before he could react.

 

I can't believe that that man was trying to set you up for some more sexual harassment. Was he going to bring his wife and kids this time to heighten the excitement and make you jealous first??

 

"So... Homie really thought I wouldn't tell, and when I didn't, he thought it meant I wanted to see him again? I can't even.... "

 

Yes, the logic of animals is surprisingly simple. You gave him too much credit.

 

I'm glad you snitched and I'm glad that you had the sense to do it the way you did, as I think you defused the situation by pointing out that it is such a tragically common experience. So now if it gets unpleasant, it's the other guy's doing.

 

It doesn't hurt that you have what sounds like a great boyfriend!!!

ieishah 779 pts

 MissFLondon  Kia I do!! ;-) And he promised not to take Homie out back. I just hope Homie fades himself out. If he tries to push the issue any, I'm sure all bets will be off...

ieishah 779 pts

 MissFLondon  "I can't believe that that man was trying to set you up for some more sexual harassment."

 

Also when you put it like this, I want to break things. Oh so sinister.

Toni_M 18823 pts moderator

 ieishah  MissFLondon It really is. It would seem he would have enough sense to leave well enough alone, but the fact that he was trying to push to see you again is just all kinds of creepy.

 

This is why black women cannot afford to abide by "no snitch" logic. These DBRs treat it as a license to do harm.

Brenda55 19451 pts moderator

 ieishah  Good for you. You could see where this was going from the creep's persistent texting.  He thought he had an in. That you wanted this.

 

 It is all about the proxy war with these guys. You and Homie may share a race but look at what he is attempting to do. Homie is trying to mess up your situation and make a fool out of your man while expecting you to cover for him because you are both black. These weak ass wanna be men can't compete face to face the way real men can. They know it so they try to do their mess on the DL. 

Good that you did not White Knight for his lame behind which is what he expected.  He does not deserve your support.

 

In the end playing it straight with your man is the way to go. No hidden agendas. 

MissFLondon 655 pts

 Brenda55  ieishah " These weak ass wanna be men can't compete face to face the way real men can"

 

So true!! His tactics are almost (dare I say it) female.

Brenda55 19451 pts moderator

 MissFLondon  ieishah 

No don't put that on female.  Homie is a punk. A simp.  Just a small piece of man that doesn't count for much in the scheme of things. That shows in the way he disrespects his wife, disrespects the OP, disrespects his friendship with the OP's man.

 

All because Homie does not have the stones to take it to the group of men he has an issue with. That is not female.  That is weak.

ieishah 779 pts

 Brenda55 Well, he'll have to find different grounds on which to compete with The Man. My relationship ain't it.

 

And the more I think about it...what kind of depraved individual would try to ruin a 'friend's' relationship for sport? In the end, he'll probably stay married; you'd think I'm his 'sister' he'd want the same for me.

 

I live in Europe, btw, just so everyone knows that such mess is not limited to the US. 

Toni_M 18823 pts moderator

What a CREEP. And it's just like I was saying: "drunk" means nothing. Notice he began to act outside the norm regarding their relationship (extremely casual associates) while sober. What this guy was saying/thinking was the truth, and could not be blamed on his being inebriated. 

 

I'm betting he was hoping to "get together again" so he would have another change to guilt you about your relationship or make passes at you.

 

What a creep and I hope he got an earful.

Nonya 210 pts

 ieishah  Kia  MissFLondon 

 

Good.  Telling was right because:

Why start harboring secrets early on a relationship and why make a trifling nonentity of a cockroach the reason to do so?

He misbehaved out of zero respect to your man because he's white; like Honey was so inconsequential that him being on the premises didn't even stop Homie from trying sh*t.  Would he have dared if Honey was Black and around?  Doubt it.

Cockroach also misbehaved out of zero respect to you.  Almost like he didn't see you, just wanted to put Honey down by putting his "checkmark" on you too. 

For you to not have told would have been continuing under his "control", protecting his ass, scripting the story his way, risking Honey breaking up with you when roach tells him (believe me, he would have).

If Honey continued being friends with him, what bad habits he would have transmitted, including shit that even he (roach) doesn't do, just to poison the well that is your relationship?  For someone who *tried* it the first meeting, can you imagine what else he could get up to?

MissFLondon 655 pts

Scorched earth approach.

 

Tell him and let the chips fall where they're supposed to. The miniature man is counting on your sense of racial loyalty to keep him out of trouble. By not throwing him under the bus, you are making it seem as though his sexual harassment of you, judgement of your choice of mate and his bravado are acceptable. In short, the imp probably thinks that you liked it and have a connection. Watch how he tries this again.

 

Remember, In Vino Veritas!! He showed his true self when he was drunk but had already alluded to those views with his literary submessaging, which at the time seemed innocent but in hindsight not so much.

 

If your other half reacts with anything but annoyance, he needs to go. You should count yourself lucky that he is an alpha male, rather than the blaming type of man who wants to run through what you were wearing at the time.

 

Race aside, it is nice to have a man just believe you and want to defend you. If you're that lucky, then just let the sparks fly!!!

Toni_M 18823 pts moderator

 MissFLondon "The miniature man is counting on your sense of racial loyalty to keep him out of trouble. "

 

Both you and Kia noted this and I agree. So many of these type of men count on black women "not snitching".

MissFLondon 655 pts

 Toni_M The problem is twofold.

 

I don't think that she wants to be seen as the awkward black girl and where inappropriate sexual behaviour is concerned, who really wants a he said she said.

 

Additionally, I remember reading a preposterous article about an athlete laughing of a black waitress' accusation of harassment. He said that he had a white woman at home and did not like Black Girls. He said this in front of white people. Why is it only black women who seem concerned with 'mixed company'.

 

I am a seasoned snitch. It's not that I enjoy airing people out, it's that I hate that even at their worst, a person will expect me to act my best and protect them. It is adding insult to injury.

thecrazyartist 2222 pts

 MissFLondon  Toni_M

 From one snitch to another I agree, it's not fun to air people out but at the same time it is not my job to protect them.  To add insult to injury many people like this man know that black women are fair game as far as harassment goes.  THey figure no one will care about or believe a black woman.

MissFLondon 655 pts

 thecrazyartist  Toni_M Yes, which is why I take it as such a challenge.

 

This is in all cases of harassment, sly bullying and covert behaviour socially (and most especially at the work place and school)

 

These people have stood back and calculated what they feel is your worth and have treated you based on what they believe that they can get away with. It's almost as though they are saying to you that if this all comes down to it, they will be believed based on their perceived higher worth.

 

I had a white female client who was quite young. Her boss at a city firm sexual harassed her, after over promoting her. So he had alienated her from the other female employees, who were aware of the reasons she got the job and the started acting as though she should be grateful that he was her only friend. As women, they of course showed their annoyance by being angry with the beneficiary of the undue praise, salary and upgrade, rather than the man who gave it to her. (Why can't most women seem to get angry with men??)

 

Anyway, when she finally reported him and got her settlement, he was genuinely shocked. He had told her, prior to the verdict that no one would believe her over him. This is despite her having detailed EMAILS!!!!!! Even with evidence he assumed that his triple privilege of being white, male, and the boss would shield him. 

 

The point is that due to the indignities that black men in America have and still face, we don't like to discuss the fact that they still have male privilege and they are quite happy to ride that one 'till the wheels fall off!!!

Brenda55 19451 pts moderator

 MissFLondon  thecrazyartist  Toni_M 

"The point is that due to the indignities that black men in America have and still face, we don't like to discuss the fact that they still have male privilege and they are quite happy to ride that one 'till the wheels fall off!!!"

 

THANK-YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Black women need to remember this.  Black men are men and their having someone's boot on their neck does not stop them from grinding their boots into our necks.

That is why we say to put your interests first and be mindful of where you loyalties lay and who you ally yourself with. Shared skin color and shared gender are no guarantees of support.

Nonya 210 pts

 MissFLondon  Toni_M 

LOL @ "I am a seasoned snitch".  Yasss!  Amen to not suffering fools gladly.

Shalillypad 37 pts

Very well written story! Tell the honey ASAP...because homie may try and flip the story to make it seem as if you came onto him. Best of luck!

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

 

It seems that men "testing" their friends' girlfriends to find out what type of a girl they are is a common occurrence. I've had this happen to me several times--on a couple of occasions, my boyfriend (they were all black) told me later that he had spoken to his friend and actually ASKED the friend to do this. 

 

I should also note that I have never been "tested" by a non-black men, but every time something like this has happened to me it has come from a former beau who was black, and so was his friend. 

MissFLondon 655 pts

 Jamila You're right this testing nonsense is a very black man thing. 

 

Toni_M 18823 pts moderator

 Jamila  I think Deborah Cooper called this the "Ho Test". And you're right, after reading the scenarios, they felt very much like the stuff I saw with BW/BM couples. I've never heard of anything like this outside of the black community. To be blunt, I feel like other ethnic groups don't walk around assuming their women are "hoes". :/ 

 

I think testing/vetting certainly happens, but it's a bit more subtle. 

 

 

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

 Toni_M I once had a boyfriend--one of those I already referred to---accuse me of cheating on him, swear up and down his friend saw me with some guy. After a huge fight where I finally broke down in tears because I didn't know what else to do, he admitted that it was just a test to see if he could get me to admit to something. 

 

Yes, SOME black men are extremely preoccupied with a fear of being cheated on, cuckolded, or fearing that a black woman is getting over on them somehow. 

MissFLondon 655 pts

 Jamila  Toni_M This is a dreadful story. It's actually upsetting on so many levels. In his arrogance he has slandered and tormented you on a fruitless fishing expedition.

 

Please assure me that this was the drawn out end of your relationship.

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

MissFLondonToni_M

 I didn't have as much confidence and self-respect then as I do now, so no, we didn't break up then. Some time later he told me that he needed to spend more time studying, which I thought was him telling me that he wanted to break up. So the very next week after that conversation I was walking around campus hand in with a nice white guy who happened to be an engineering major; my ex's friend saw me and reported back to his friend, who then told me that he wasn't actually breaking up with me when we had that conversation, he was just letting me know that he wanted more space, but now that I actually was cheating on him--according to him--he was now breaking up with me. He was so pissed that I left him and immediately got with a white guy he refused to carry my TV downstairs from his apartment--he didn't have a TV so mine ended up at his place. Thankfully, another of his friends was there and brought my TV down to the car for me. 

 

The craziness of college love. 

 

EmilySpring 286 pts

 Jamila Pure paranoia stemming from low self-esteem. 

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

" I’ll have to spill these beans eventually, but I do not look forward to it."

 

If you are going to say something to your man, then say something as soon as possible. The longer you wait the more it will look like something was said that you don't want Honey to know. Homie might try to claim you flirted with him or something. 

 

Re: Fanon. 

 

I had been wanting to read Fanon, particularly The Wretched of the Earth, for some time, but never got around to it. After what you just said about the book I'm starting to think that what Fanon wrote in BS/WM is where so many of the black people (particularly the black men) who disagree with interracial dating must have picked up their intellectual arguments against black women who date non-black men. 

AJ2011 2310 pts

 Jamila Re:  "Who's Zooming Who?" LOL

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

 AJ2011 Yep, I remember Halima's Classic Post. 

Joyce345 1738 pts

 Jamila  AJ2011 

that post was epic. I laughed so hard reading it

Anne34 74 pts

Wow... Homie is an idiot. You should definitely tell Honey. He needs to know what kind of guy he's hanging out with although I wouldn't be surprised if he already has an inkling. Also, every once in a while I like to tell the hubby about getting hit on because I like to remind him of how lucky he is to have a wife who still “got it.” Although I should say I rarely get hit on which means I rarely get the chance to remind him or anything... :)

Sunshine789 711 pts

It was good you didn't tell him in that moment, thereby avoiding a fight, but you should tell him soon. Otherwise you might be forced to hang out with him again, and your Honey will not understand why you are giving his buddy the stink-eye. The longer you wait to spill, the more likely he is to think that you had something to do with his advances, and that is for sure what Homie will say!

DWB 7461 pts

A clip of one of my favorite scenes from "I'm Gonna Git You Sucka"

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNBt4srCn84

The Working Home Keeper 6617 pts

I would definitely tell the boyfriend.  Homie will mostly likely try to deny it or blame the alcohol.  But it's best that your boyfriend know about his advances.

 

I had a situation where one of my husband's friends (a white guy) started rubbing my thigh underneath a table in the presence of my husband and his wife.  I didn't say anything in that moment, but moved closer over to my husband.  Later, I told my husband what happened.  I was afraid he would be mad at me.  He was upset but didn't explode.  We also never hung out with that particular friend anymore.   

 

 

The Working Home Keeper 6617 pts

"in the presence of my husband and his wife."

 

his = the friend's wife

Toni_M 18823 pts moderator

 The Working Home Keeper What a creep!

uninterracial 948 pts

 The Working Home Keeper No way! That is really creepy.

ieishah 779 pts

 @TheWorkingHomeKeeper You should've said, "WHAT'S TOUCHING MY LEG UNDER THE TABLE?", really loudly. His reaction would've been so much fun.

Nonya 210 pts

 ieishah 

Exactly!  I was just thinking how I'd yell out the same thing with the idiot's name.  Why protect the idiot?

mzsunshine 2431 pts

yes, you have to spill the beans.  This guy is full of himself and obviously has some self-hatred issues. Dating and sex should not be about race..'getting these white bitches for free'.  And you were a lot kinder than I would have been, I would have drenched him those drinks.  You need that man out of your lives even if he is just an acquaintance.   This is why I am suspect of some IR relationship.  Sounds more like a ego trip for Homey.  I bet he and his other 'black' homies throw donw drinks bragging about 'getting white bitches for free'.