Bishop Eddie Long: When “Pimpin from the Pulpit” Goes Even Worse Than Usual

Bishop Eddie Long: When “Pimpin from the Pulpit” Goes Even Worse Than Usual

Eddie Long a “king?” What the cuss?!

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Bishop Eddie Long, embattled pastor of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, a man accussed of sexually molesting young/boys men, allowed himself to be declared a ‘King’ in front of the entire congregation last Sunday. Yes, you read that right.

According to visiting Pastor Ralph Messer, who somehow believes that on account of his Jewish heritage and dual-citizenship with the land of Israel, he has the authority to speak “on behalf of the Jewish people, the land of Israel, the God of Israel” to declare Bishop Long a ‘King’. Yep, Bishop Long is a King! And if you want proof, just check his “k chromosome!” In the video Long’s ‘anointing’ is a case study in what ‘burning hot mess’ looks like when on full-display.  Lets count the ways.

1. Bunk science. ( “Man has 22 chromosomes, and God gave him the 23rd)

2. Selective use of Scripture. (The Biiiiiiiibbbbblllleeee says…….! )

3.  Emotional guilt-tripping (i.e., “this will either arouse the realm of death in you or arouse the realm of life)

Hmm, watching a suspected child molester who used his position to exploit young men for sexual benefit caused SOMETHING to raise up in me alright! I think it might have been that feeling you get in the back of your throat when you’re about to vomit or something akin to acid reflux.

And before I get the self-righteous, sanctimonious Bible-thumpers in here to tell me to ‘judge not, lest ye be judged’, let me cut ya’ll off at the knees: I am not a pastor, bishop, or self-anointed man of God who is supposed to be leading his flock. But if I was to take up that sort of position, the Bible says that I am to be ‘blameless’. Why? Because I have never read ANY Scripture that says God wants whore-mongers, rapists, murderers, and suspected molesters preying on his people.

If the good Bishop gave a hoot about the congregation of New Birth he would have stepped down from his pedestal in the church AT LEAST long enough to explain himself and profess his innocence. Instead, the good Bishop took a <strike>vacation</strike> Sabbath, some folks got paid off and then the offering plate got passed around. Business as usual.

What is mentally wrong with the folks in this church who are clapping and praising the Lord while Bishop Long gets elevated above the ‘commoner’s and proclaimed a King?

Lets think about this for a moment. Let’s think about the victims of sexual exploitation that exist in black churches and families across America. How does this look to them? How would I feel if I knew men who were accused of using their power and position to bargain for sexual favors where hoisted up on the shoulders of men, wrapped in ancient Scripture found in Holocaust camps, and declared to now be anointed while I was given some hush money and told to hush my mouth?

You wanna know what rape culture looks like? Head on down to New Birth Missionary Baptist Church, where you might get touched by more than the Spirit. And then the church will say, “Amen!”

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Patricia Kayden 533 pts

You all better stop mocking the King! LOL.

From what I understand, Messer is not really a Rabbi and the "coronation" was all nonsense. Wonder what Long thinks he's going to get out of this. Is his wife going back to him now that he's a King?

blackpanthershay 284 pts

I cannot with bloody foolishness..I just can't http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu48xyuFz71qfe5cf.gif

Blackberry 484 pts

Eek! We still have to talk about this guy! Last week my mom called me the most beautiful girl in the world....but her saying it doesn't make it so. So this guy is a "king" and some people drank the cool aid.... Doesn't actually make him a king. So why even talk about his self-proclaimed new status.

This kind of narcissism can be hard to swallow (take the pun or leave it) but even complaining about it gives the story legs.....know what I'm saying?

Jamila 2819 pts

Blackberry It needs to be spoken about because this type of tomfoolery is going on in black churches all across America--Bishop "King" Long just happened to have his foolishness recorded for the media.

I hope anyone who ever attends a church and they watch something like this going down gets the message loud and clear --signaled by the derision that most people are heaping upon this man for his actions--that something is DEAD WRONG if something like this is going on in their churches.

Blackberry 484 pts

Jamila Clarification: I gather that Long's herd isn't opposed to him, but are other black churches (reverends, ministers, pastors) showing support of this guy?!

Jamila 2819 pts

Blackberry Unfortunately some leaders of megachurch's have been supporting the guy. Creflo Dollar--Lord, I that name irks me--supported Long to the extent that he told people who had left Long's church to leave his (Dollar's) church too.

http://fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com/2011/06/pastors-covering-for-each-other-creflo.html

Other reactions to Long have been mixed.

http://onfaith.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/undergod/2010/09/dc_area_pastors_react_to_eddie_long_sex_abuse_allegations.html

keeks Y 128 pts

JamilaBlackberry seriously. You have got to be kidding. birds of feather flock together, aint it?

Law Wanxi 3262 pts

JamilaBlackberry

Creflo Dollar - you gotta admit that's a truly appropriate name! I wonder if it's Creflo Yen Ministries in Japan, LOL.

Patricia Kayden 533 pts

Law WanxiJamilaBlackberry I've read that Creflo Dollar is not his real name -- something that he came up with to stand out. Cannot stand him or the other prosperity pimps.

Brenda55 4316 pts moderator

Patricia KaydenLaw WanxiJamilaBlackberry

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I've read that Creflo Dollar is not his real name -"

Purlie Victorious was already taken so he had to go with Creflo.

Law Wanxi 3262 pts

Blackberry

"Last week my mom called me the most beautiful girl in the world....but her saying it doesn't make it so."

What? 什麼? Why do you say your mother's wrong? How dare you! She carried you under her heart for NINE MONTHS!!!!

Go to your room, young lady! NOW and don't argue!

PamelaCookDreyer 15 pts

I would be considered a Bible thumper. HOWEVER Christians seem to forget that there are MANY verses of scripture that show the qualifications of good church leaders. There are also many verses in the Bible that scream that we should run from such. 2 Peter is full of characteristics of leaders not worthy of the title. I believe in that book they are called false. If we are being warned not to follow preachers like this, that means we are to compare the characteristics of what a leader is doing with what the Bible says. THAT IS RIGHTEOUS JUDGING. The wrong judgment is to (1) speak harshly about another person's wrongdoing while being guilty of the same and (2) making a judgment about whether they will go to heaven or hell. Calling a spade a spade is NOT wrong judgment. Don't listen to Christians that tell you that you are not to judge the fruit of a leader. The Bible says otherwise. It is one thing to be smug against someone without being honest about your shortcomings. Also remember the Bible says that they are supposed to be teaching us about God and His ways. There is NOTHING good about being around spiritual poison. It is wicked to expose minors to it and making excuses because they are the pastors. That is criminal and against the BIble. I would not want to be the parents of those children that knowingly keep their children in the midst of spiritual rottenness.Great piece.

candielady357 84 pts

I've said it once and I'll say it again......if there is to be a demise to the black community, religion will be responsible, from the Baptist church to my personal dogmatic, mind-controlling, family-destroying favorite, the Jehovah's Witnesses.

Jay from Philly 665 pts

People turn to religious fundamentalism in times of crisis. It happened in Europe in the Dark Ages when the only source of learning, culture, and enlightenment was the Roman Catholic Church. It's why you see the rise of the megachurch here in America which has taken the place of neighborhood and extended family, or of the madrassas in the Middle East. Also, let's be real here: For better or for worse, the Church is the only institution left in the Black underclass. Jobs are gone, the family has crumbled, the schools are dysfunctional, and civic pride has been replaced by an ugly ghetto mentality. The Church is the last refuge. In a time of uncertainty the Church offers something higher and above what is right around us. Someone like Eddie Long can play on that uncertainty. Fleecing the flock. It's disgusting, it's wrong, and it's also no different than the corruption which caused the Reformation and is rocking the Roman Catholic Church today.

That said, for those atheists who are being smug about this whole scandal: What does your nihilism offer in place of a higher power? So far your belief in nothing has brought about 1) oppressive Communistic regimes which managed to kill more people in the last century than were killed in the name of religion throughout human history and 2) a vacuous shallow consumer culture that depends on continuously dumbed down people putting themselves in debt in the aquisition of unnecessary stuff. Atheists can call me naive or dumb or backwards, but I'd rather live in a world where there is something more important than the Kardashians.

Islandgirl 405 pts

Jay from Philly You've hit the nail on the head. Hardcore atheists and religious zealots are just opposite sides of the same coin. We must never lose sight of the real victims the vulnerable who are just trying to look outside of themselves for comfort and a sense of community are being taken advantage of by unscrupulous persons.

Jamila 2819 pts

Jay from Philly "a vacuous shallow consumer culture that depends on continuously dumbed down people putting themselves in debt in the aquisition of unnecessary stuff"

I don't think that it is fair to blame the consumer culture on atheists/agnostics. Manufacturing took off and products became cheaper to produce and thus cheaper to buy; advertising took off to sell products to a wide variety of consumers as a result.

You might be able to blame capitalism for consumer culture, but not the atheists.

Jay from Philly 665 pts

When God is rejected as the foundation for society, something has to take God's place. Communism was one foundation, it collapsed in 70 years. Europe went to an entitlement post-Christian culture after WWII and in about 70 years it is coming apart. When I say a vacuous consumer culture I'm really saying that someone without a code to live by has nothing to live for. All that remains is sitting around in a Forever Lazy, watching the Kardashians and eating Doritos. Religious fundamentalism is the only thing that stands against the consumer culture.

Jamila 2819 pts

Jay from Philly "When I say a vacuous consumer culture I'm really saying that someone without a code to live by has nothing to live for."

But does that 'code' necessarily have to be a religion?

I don't think Europe is coming apart, as much as I think there is a 'birth dearth" where people are just not having as many children as they used to--and it's not like the European places are the only places where this is happening either.

NATruthstudent 1099 pts

JamilaJay from Philly

Sorry, Jay, but I have to disagree with you here. I and a lot of other people have a strong belief, faith, and knowledge that God exists. i and many others do not believe in religion or churches. Put not your faith in man; churches are a man-made institution. Properly used, they can be a good starting point, a comfort when a rest is needed, but not the be-all and end-all of having a relationship with God.

Jay from Philly 665 pts

I never said you HAD to belong to a church. As a matter of fact I have my own issues with fundamentalist doctrine. What I said was in troubled times people turn to religious fundamentalism. We are in troubled times. And when comparing religious fundamentalism to watching the Kardashians and eating Doritos, I'll take the former.

Metropolitan 5 pts

Jay from Philly Absence from religion does not mean absence from belief. Those without religion have principles and a knowledge of right and wrong that is just as legitimate as those who follow the Bible. I don't watch the Kardashians because it's junk, and I feel the same way about Doritos.

Joyce345 900 pts

Totally sick. What about the victims?

kennaGransberg 141 pts

i remember seeing a video some years ago of T.I visiting the church and speaking to a group of young people there. Now I am no bible thumping christian( i do enjoy reading my bible though) but what does T.I. have do with a supposedly man of GOD should there be a huge line drawn between the secular and christian world? I was never fond of this pastor before and after seeing this video and i am not surprised that is church members act as if nothing was wrong and it was a cooked up conspiracy to tear down their pastor. Did is wife really went through with the divorce, did any of the black civil rights activist say anything about this issue?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nh6U-VwQaE

kennaGransberg 141 pts

oh and this is blatant sociopathic and narsisstic behaviour. TYPOS

Islandgirl 405 pts

kennaGransberg His wife started the proceedings then prayed and decided to stay as a good sista soldier should (can't insert enough sarcasm over the interwebs). Black civil rights activists didn't say jack over the issue as Long happened to have the right melanin content coupled with the fact that he is a pastor. Should anyone speak against such heinous behaviour that person would be branded an agent of the devil and mouth piece of the evil liberal media. The victims, however, were branded as lairs and wicked for attempting such an upstanding black man as Long by numerous members of black community.

Jamila 2819 pts

kennaGransberg My pastor does a radio show. The day that Michael Jackson died my pastor played like one MJ song and then was like "OK, back to the Bible!" Some pastors/congregations are not playing around with the idea of letting anything and anybody into the church or allowing the church to rubber stamp all types of foolishness.

kennaGransberg 141 pts

Jamila and they shouldnt. playing and MJ song is one thing but have a rapper that sings about bitches, hoes, guns, drugs, weed etc come up in your church and give speeches takes it to a whole other level. He doesnt understand the magnitude of what he is doing and him and pastors like him will probably never get it esp. on that particular most popular so called christian network. Its time for the church to stand up for what the BIBLE says whether its going to offend people are not. As a whole we have become a society that walks on egg shells because we dont want to piss off anyone. The last time a checked Jesus wasn't afraid to call like he sees it.

Saw and article today where Tim Tebow turned down to speak at Rod Parsley church. one more reason why i am huge fan of this guy and i hope he keeps turning them down.

krschropp 20 pts

As a Jew myself...I do feel a bit offended to see this man carrying a Torah! WTF?!?!?!?

Law Wanxi 3262 pts

krschropp RACIST!! HATER!! Think of how Goodman and Schwerner died for Black people! Such a thing to say, oy. I'd expect that from goyim, but not from a landsman.

See, Islandgirl, that's how it's done.

Law Wanxi 3262 pts

krschropp ooopsss. Didn't know you are African-American. sorry.

But, you know what I mean.

krschropp 20 pts

I think the point is missed here on what my statement meant....I am Jewish and as a Jew I find that handing the Torah to a non-Jew to be not okay. The Torah is generally to be handled in the utmost of care and in that care, only carried by someone who IS Jewish. Eddie Long is NOT! There is a tendency to pile stuff on a person when you really just don't know all the facts....people immedidately just to the way wrong conclusion.

Karla 2799 pts

Wow. I just spit up a little in my mouth. I think he and his congregation need to be forcibly admitted to an insane asylum. What a piece of work!

Jamila 2819 pts

Re: HTML tags

I think the site is also going through a bit of an upgrade and the techie people might be working on some things behind the scenes. I can't speak on this for sure, but the HTML on the site has been a bit wonkie the last day or two.

AJ2011 750 pts

Hell if the pimp Don Juan can get ordained and still make movies and "consult" on the world oldest profession then I guess a married Sugar Daddy can become a monarch. I mean its only fair:p

Islandgirl 405 pts

In the land of the blind the one eye man is king. This is one situation where some people are not keen to speak out lest they be labelled as either a racist or self hating for daring to call shenanigans. Leaders are suppose to lead by example and the example being shown to the world is that the black community condones and exalts this hot mess. Unfortunately, the black community is viewed as a monolith and situations such as this perpetuate and fuel the already negative associations to the black community.

SirLoinDeBeef 553 pts

Islandgirl Actually, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is a delusional psychopath who has to be put away and sedated for the good of the community - he keeps talking about this 'sight' thing, whereas everybody know there ain't no such thing.

Law Wanxi 3262 pts

I guess we can say now that <i>none </i> of the usual XHTML tags work.

Is that a Torah scroll Kang Eddie is holding? Looks like it. Here, hold on while I make a call.

[dials a number in the 972 country code] 'Hey, Ari, there's something you and your Mossad buddies might be interested in. There's some goy child molester going around calling himself a King and holding a Torah scroll. Yeah. OK, I'll send you a link. OK. [long pause] Yeah, you could do that or a drive-by or a drug deal gone bad, any cover like that would work. OK. OK. Sure. [long pause] Ouch, in bed with a live boy; that's great, nice touch. OK, OK, No, everything's great in LA these days. Yeah, aleichem shalom, dude, bye.

I only wish I could do that. Solves a problem, sends a message.

Islandgirl 405 pts

Law Wanxi Jews aren't going to keep quiet about King proclaiming himself as a mouth piece for Israel, Jews and God once they cotton to this fact. I must have misread in the bible that Jesus was God mouth piece.

Law Wanxi 3262 pts

Islandgirl American Jews won't say or do a thing, for fear of being labelled as racists and haters. I know for a fact based on experience that American Jews will say all sorts of patronizing and downright offensive crap about Hispanics and Asians, <b>especially Chinese </b>, but Hashem help you if you 'go there' about Black people. Non-USA Jews, especially Eastern European, different story.

Islandgirl 405 pts

Law Wanxi Ok. Didn't think about it in that way. Race matters are always so complicated it makes my head spin. I guess the fear of being labelled racist is the reason why the American Jews have been so quiet about the issue.

Law Wanxi 3262 pts

Islandgirl It's complicated. I know several American Jews who almost always refer to Hispanics as 'beaners' and all Southeast Asians as 'gooks' and Japanese as 'Japs' who will very huffily and haughtily correct you if you say Black. "That's African-American, Wanxi, A f r i c a n -- A m e r i c a n!"

Momsers, feh....

krschropp 20 pts

Law WanxiIslandgirl

Okay...I will speak...as a Jew and an African American....I am offended at this meshugenah!!

sparel 821 pts

krschroppLaw WanxiIslandgirl you don't have to say that!...that's crazy talk Jewish is your religion and African American is your ethic background...that's wrong...that's just like saying "as an atheist and a african american. that don't make sense...I've never heard of a white person saying as a jew and a caucasian. or a ethiopian saying...as a african and jew it just wouldn't make sense...and don't let nobody try to make you feel bad about calling yourself a jew if that's what you are

Jamila 2819 pts

IslandgirlLaw Wanxi I think any Jewish people who might see this would think it would be a waste of their time to even respond; the entire scene looks so crazy, speaking out about it might make it seem of more gravity than it really is.

Law Wanxi 3262 pts

addendum; it looks like the italics tag works but break and strike don't. Maybe we [hint,hint,hint] need a list of working XHTML tags posted as a sticky?

Law Wanxi 3262 pts

looks like the tag for Bold works.

Law Wanxi 3262 pts

or not, if you refresh your browser. Strange things are afoot at the Circle-K.