New Bits: Chris Brown Dumps Girlfriend to NOT Have Sex with Rihanna. Yeah Right.

New Bits: Chris Brown Dumps Girlfriend to NOT Have Sex with Rihanna. Yeah Right.

Yes, Chris Brown is back with Rhi Rhi. Anyone actually believe he broke up with his current girlfriend so he could NOT have sex with Rhianna? Mark my words–they’ll soon announce they’re having a baby.

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Le sigh.

The New York Daily News and the black blogosphere is all abuzz about the news that Chris Brown, former girlfriend beater, has dumped his current squeeze to get back into the (bed?) of the former beat-ee, Rhianna.

Anyone besides me find it ironic that they’re both holding up peace signs? bwahahahaha! (I know, I know. I’m such a trollpanian about them. I can’t help it.)

Brown just released this documentary-style video claiming he’s in love with two people.

From the Post:

Chris Brown and girlfriend Karrueche Tran are officially over.

“I have decided to be single to focus on my career. I love Karrueche very much but I don’t want to see her hurt over my friendship with Rihanna,” Chris Brown tells Confidenti@l through his spokesman on Thursday. “I’d rather be single allowing us to be both be happy in our lives.
Brown and Rihanna have been spotted partying all over New York since Monday night, kissing, dancing and even disappearing in to a bathroom together for nearly 20 minutes.

 

Oh please. Does anyone actually believe Chris Brown broke up with his girlfriend to have a platonic, non-sexual “friendship” with Rhianna?! No where on Earth do men do that. My money is on them soon announcing that they’re moving in together or soon to have a baby. Mark my words.

Now because I don’t want to make this post only to be a tongue-cluck, I thought I’d actually add some information that useful for women, since you’re here anyway.

 

How to Spot a Victim of Domestic Violence: Health-Care Pro Discusses the Many Warning Signs

In the United States, women are assaulted or beaten once every nine seconds; worldwide, one in three women have been battered, raped or otherwise abused in her lifetime, according to women’s advocacy organizations.

“That means most of us – while grocery shopping, at work or at home – come across several women a day who have either been abused, or are currently enduring abuse,” says Linda O’Dochartaigh, a health professional and author of Peregrine (www.lavanderkatbooks.com). “It’s a terrible fact of life for too many women, but if there is something we can do about it and we care about fellow human beings, then we must try.”

There are several abuse resources available to women who are being abused, or friends of women who need advice, including:

• TheHotline.org, National Domestic Violence Hotline, open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, 1-800-799-SAFE (7223)

• HelpGuide.org, provides unbiased, advertising-free mental health information to give people the self-help options to help people understand, prevent, and resolve life’s challenges

• VineLink.com, allows women to search for an offender in custody by name or identification number, then register to be alerted if the offender is released,  transferred, or escapes

• DAHMW.org, 1-888-7HELPLINE, offers crisis intervention and support services for victims of intimate partner violence and their families

Perhaps the best thing friends and family can do for a woman enduring domestic abuse is to be there for her – not only as a sympathetic ear, but also as a source of common sense that encourages her to take protective measures, O’Dochartaigh says. Before that, however, loved ones need to recognize that help is needed.

O’Dochartaigh reviews some of the warning signs:

• Clothing – Take notice of a change in clothing style or unusual fashion choices that would allow marks or bruises to be easily hidden. For instance, someone who wears long sleeves even in the dog days of summer may be trying to hide signs of abuse.

• Constant phone calls – Many abusers are very controlling and suspicious, so they will call their victims multiple times each day to “check in.” This is a subtle way of manipulating their victims, to make them fearful of uttering a stray word that might alert someone that something is wrong. Many abusers are also jealous, and suspect their partner is cheating on them, and the constant calls are a way of making sure they aren’t with anyone they aren’t supposed to be around.

• Unaccountable injuries – Sometimes, obvious injuries such as arm bruises or black eyes are a way to show outward domination over the victim. Other times, abusers harm areas of the body that won’t be seen by family, friends and coworkers.

• Frequent absences – Often missing work or school and other last-minute plan changes may be a woman hiding abuse, especially if she is otherwise reliable.

• Excessive guilt & culpability – Taking the blame for things that go wrong, even though she was clearly not the person responsible – or she is overly-emotional for her involvement – is a red flag.

• Fear of conflict – Being brow-beaten or physically beaten takes a heavy psychological toll, and anxiety bleeds into other relationships.

• Chronic uncertainty – Abusers often dominate every phase of a victim’s life, including what she thinks she likes, so making basic decisions can prove challenging.

About Linda O’Dochartaigh

Linda O’Dochartaigh has worked in health care is an advocate for victims of child abuse and domestic violence.  She wants survivors to know that an enriched, stable and happy life is available to them. O’Dochartaigh is the mother of three grown children and is raising four adopted grandchildren.

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jillodelight 516 pts

*scratches head* I'm wondering what sort of woman decides to have a relationship with a man who beat up his ex girlfriend. Different folks,different strokes I guess! Tina Turner needs to set Rhianna straight.

DeepWater 2519 pts

This is where Rihanna should be right now IMO, this could be a blueprint for her.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VFzJLK51cs

(Thunderpuss remix........yeah, yeah)

DeepWater 2519 pts

In talking (gossiping) about Rihanna, abuse can come in a different way, like that of Selena Quintinilla-Perez ("Selena",  the actual legal case, not the movie) in that she'd met her fanclub president and apparel boutique manager, Yolanda Salivar, in secret behind her fathers' back (unbeknownst to him, Selena Y Los Dinos group manager) about the severance of this relationship due to money scams through Selena's clothing boutique.  Saldivar managed to inch her way up into the inner circle to build trust with the family and did to throw them off-guard.   When Selena's father realized, through accounting of earned income, they were being scammed he then began process of cutting off ties with Saldivar and was done as far as he was concerned.  Saldivar asked Selena to meet her at whatever motel (with 20/20 being hindsight family should have called police to deal with her after severing relationship) in secret, and of course, by the time she'd realized what was happening Saldiver shot (murdered) her in the room and would die at hospital.

 

Abuse comes in many forms.  Mr. Quintinilla was from the streets (his words in the legal case) and saw what Saldivar was doing and decided from then on (prior to Selena's death) TO CLOSE THAT INNER CIRCLE.

 

Rihanna, being young and beautiful (right now) needs to either manage her image in a different manner and have folk that actually care about her and her best interests and right now, I do not think that is the case, and though my statement may be a bit strong, I agree with Lovejoy below, that CB is dangerous and that Rihanna's downfall will be at his hands, if not him, then someone like him.   She is not in control of her stagecoach horse reigns, she has a hired driver for said stagecoach, that driver does not have her best interests at heart (from the outside looking in).

Toni_M 20024 pts moderator

 DeepWater This is ironic. I was just in the middle of re-reading this article: http://sojournerspassport.com/for-your-own-safety-keep-male-identified-women-out-of-your-inner-circle/

Toni_M 20024 pts moderator

 DeepWater Basically the article was about removing poisonous and dangerous women who will get you killed (!!!) from your circle of friends and family. 

DeepWater 2519 pts

 Toni_M   Read article and comments and they are spot on.    Growin' up in NYC as a kid and young woman there, though I did not, a lot of my friends lived in the projects, I'm talkin' NYC projects, 15, 20, and 30 stories tall with back and side entrances usually unlit and rarely policed.   I'm still rattled about a few deaths at that age of 1) a girl I knew from jr high at13 years of age was killed (thrown into garbage cut up and mutilated) by her numbers runnin' grown man boyfriend, 2) another girl I knew from math class, 13 years of age, was found in the East River beaten and dumped there by her grown man boyfriend, 3) another girl, 14, stabbed over 14 times and raped by known project boys in back in one of said project, 4) in high school, a girl murdered by boyfriend and friends after found with fatal head wounds from beating and gunshots, I could go on, and on, and on, but you see my point.   I was frightened myself and would no longer befriend these girls in school, not only because of these ultimate fates, but because of the boyfriend/men and girls that hung/thought like these girls (male identified) and would, eventually, be caught up in some bad business and/or be killed.   That was in my teens and young adulthood.   Not quite 50 yet but these fates and scenes tripped me out so hard that I'd vowed then to not allow these type of folk around myself, it would get me hurt or worse.    So Ms. Nassif's article is spot on and, I think, solid advice about keeping ones' inner circle CLOSED.

 

(I also want to say that because, though very sad and death came at her own hand, Ms. Houston (from outside looking in) allowed folk to "run up in her life" and steal her (true) self, joy, and talent away from her, another reason to keep that inner closed).

DeepWater 2519 pts

This is what I want to know ladies (and gents), what happened to the mystique of singer/performers?  What's the deal with tweetin' crotch shots (photos), booty shots, breast/cleaveage shots, gettin' out the car without underwear shots?  What is this?  Where did this come from?  I kind of gather where it does, but what's up with showin' yo goodies that'll last for only long?   Why is Rihanna and other young sex kitten ladies doing this?

What happened to the days of being excited to see say, an Aretha Franklin, or a Gladys Knight, or a Chaka Khan or, for that matter, Judy Garland (the female equivalent to Frank Sinatra) or Barbra Streisand in performance on stage or tv?  Remember that y'all, what do yo goodies have to do with yo talent?  What happened to talent?  Where did that go?   What yo crotch got to do with bein' a superstar?  I just don't understand.   I like Jonelle Monet, Ledisi, still love Anita Baker, so far, I ain't seen these ladies crotches.  What that got to wit art/performin"?    Some of these young ladies, such as Rihanna, have taken out the mystique of art/singing/dance/performance, I just have to wonder, what is the need for this?

introvertedwanderer 1056 pts

 DeepWater I think it's as I had said in that other post from a couple  months back, now a days the image of something is the thing itself.  There doesn't really have to be much depth aside from the image.  LeAnne Rimes, who was always known for having a great voice, has transformed into another walking image.  A few weeks ago, I saw a pic of her posted to another site that was taken from her Twitter account.  She was trying to make it seem like she was showing her followers a new handbag that she had gotten, when really her true motive was probably to show off her body, because she has really become skinny, and she has been flaunting her new body for all to see, by wearing bikinis at the beach and skimpy clothing, just in general.  The body and how one is moving their body, seems to be the  main concern for these folks now.  It's actually strange to think about it, because aside from these celebrities, I usually don't see every day folks with that same type of image consciousness.  Sure, many people do pay attention with how they look because it's part of self-esteem, but these celebrities are at a different level with it.

DeepWater 2519 pts

 introvertedwanderer   You're right about that Introvertedw.   Yeah, I've read about Leann Rhimes and hubby snatchin' issues and it just seems to be only image now and nothing else.  I go to a couple of the other gossip sites (along with real and serious news sites) and, man, I mean, seriously?   Booty shots (photos), breast/cleavage shots, gettin' out the car/limo without underwear shots, whom you havin' sex with, sex tapes for sale now, not just typical porn but celebrity porn, I means, really?   Has this what "art" has come to?   

 

It is my understanding that Rihanna is 5"10' or 5"11" without heels.  If that's the case her height along with real art (ala Whitney Houston at 5"10') could be a major force in that she'd take up stage space and could be a powerful presence in music.  

 

Going back to male-identified women, such as Ms. Fenty, I go this other gossip site, and read their comments and man, "give CB a chance", "they're just doin' them", "she forgave him, so should we", "I love him", "give him a chance, that was 3 years ago"...........I'm like, omg, really?  I don't respond to said site comments because I know I'd be fed upon like locusts on a corn patch   I don't like to say this, but thank goodness Ms. Karazin, is going to multiple cities with Swirlin' because, I swear, these folk are DUMB.  You gon' defend this fools' actions?   And on one of these particular sites folk got the nerve to call folk that don't go along with "we need mo' Black love" are called chickenheads, heaux, traitor to their race, a Black male haters, and so on.   I take it that this is what passes for entertainment today.

DeepWater 2519 pts

 introvertedwanderer 

 

Ms. Houston was sexy but in a classy way and I loved her imagery though not a lot of her music (a bit too big and sappy for me (though love "It's Not Right But It's Ok", got more oooooph) but she had a dynamism rarely seen with the sex kittens of today, or at least, that I've seen recently.

 

http://www.billboard.com/photogalleries/remembering-whitney-her-life-in-photos-1006168152.story#/photogalleries/remembering-whitney-her-life-in-photos-1006168152.story

 

 

 

KingsDaughter 4961 pts

 DeepWater  introvertedwanderer  She was so beautiful. Quite right about her style, which was of a classy, lady-like image- in some ways older than her years. The music was generally ok, not my cup of tea but not terrible either. However this has to be one of my Whitney favs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_4PlM85NJo

KingsDaughter 4961 pts

 DeepWater  It's the desperation and fear of becoming irrelevant in today's  fast moving media age.

 

I chuckled a little at your post though as  I remembered Cher in her "If I Could turn Back Time" video. NO mystique there lol Remember how Madonna, in her 50s now, did a  lot of risque stuff from the beginning of her career? She's still trying with the shock tactics. It's mortifying to watch. Unfortunately this trend is now so  de rigeur people don't bat an eyelid when  you get your kit off.  I like the artists you mentioned. Think of Stevie Nicks. What they have is LONGEVITY. At the end of they day their talent superceded everything else, not vice versa.

 

The mystique is getting lost I'm afraid however artists like Sade and Enya HAVE it. I don't remember them ever taking her kit off. Also Tori Amos, Bjork, Alicia Keys, India Arie. They're all very unique and no one could ever doubt their talent. No need for gimmicks. ok  Ok so Tori Amos suckled a piglet but i've forgiven her lol

DeepWater 2519 pts

 KingsDaughter  Omg, "Tori Amos suckled piglet, but I've forgiven her lol", bwaaaaaahhhhhaaaaaa.   You right about that, again, KingsD.   I agree regarding the artists you mentioned,  LOVE Sade, India Arie, Alicia Keys, Bjork (very unique singer/performer).     (Prince wears out Tori Amos' "If God Was One Of Us").

 

It's gotten to the point, like Introvertedw noted, that entertainment/performance is ALL ABOUT image now.

 

Guuurrrrrl I remember sayin' "mama, Gladys Knight & The Pips is coming on tonight on tv (on whatever show at that time) as a child and it was like the proverbial dog whistle to the neighborhood, er'body would show up to our house, with popcorn and coca-cola in hand.   Especially, Black folk on t.v. alone was a huge deal and to hear whatever performance was coming on was an event, a treat.    Now, from the little I've seen of new videos, they are now, in my opinion, soft-porn.    

 

Gimmicks and imagery are now riguer de jour and is the only thing, SMDH.

 

KingsDaughter 4961 pts

 DeepWater One of Us is Joan Osborne if I remember well. I'll check out Prince's version. I've always loved Tori Amos. Such an incredibly talented singer/ song writer and a mesmerising performer. One of her big songs:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohiRxoakhog

 

She's a rape survivor and has gone on to be activist.

DeepWater 2519 pts

 KingsDaughter  Cher, though, has taken that paparazzi ass to task.  I think it was the late 80s when Cher beat, and I do mean beat physically, a photographers ass in that he wanted to get a crotch shot while she was literally using the restroom, dude went into a ladies room where she was located and stuck a (very expensive) camera under bathroom stall where she was located, after gatherin' up herself, came out of bathroom to locate him, did, got in his face, he told her "I have a right to photograph a public figure", homegirl wasn't feelin' that, took dudes' camera, straight wrestled it away from him, smashed it to ground, and commenced to whoopin" that ass somewhere in L.A.  Don't sleep on Cher, she was not havin' it.  I believe she settled of course when dude sued regarding his camera.   It was alleged that she didn't give ****. She wasn't gon' feel no hurt in her pockets regarding this fool.  Though paparazzi is apart of doing business in entertainment, she stated that you do not have right to invade my privacy on my personal time.   So she does have (a measure) of integrity regarding her entertainment work.

KingsDaughter 4961 pts

 DeepWater  KingsDaughter Wow amazing story! How could he do that? What a pig, ugh!!!

DeepWater 2519 pts

 KingsDaughter   Here, this woman (Cher) literally fought for her personal privacy (can you imagine a hand with a camera showin' up under stall while handlin' yo business?) and yet now though, seemingly, these younger entertainment ladies seem to glorify this.   They LIKE having "wardrobe malfunctions" on somebodys' red carpet, some like to have shots of themselves gettin' out of car/limo with no draws on, even in some cases, see them doing BJs on some type of play/sex tape (well, that is my boyfriend some say).  I mean is the what art/performance has come to?   I agree with you in that this fast moving media age folk (think they) need to bring shock value in order to, as you say, "be relevant".

 

Lets see, in web and magazine photos, some even on her down time, I've seen Rihanna:

 

1)  Smokin' blunts, 2) drinking to the point of bein' pissy ass drunk, 3) seen her goodies (super short dresses, skirts, throwback jerseys) in "publicity" photos, 3) simulates sex acts on stage, 4) rubbin' on other entertainers while on stage, and the like.

 

So, in my opinion, I've seen the buffet, and others apparently are eating from it, and unfortunately for me, it's now become boring.  I've seen the goodies and what you (Rihanna) are about and its not singing/performing from what I understand it to be.  Thus its no longer fun to watch her, she's put everything out there, NO MYSTIQUE.

 

SMDH.

 

zipporah 1911 pts

IMO, the 'non mystique' started with MADONNA in the eighties---she did have some in the beginning, but went south and drug other younger singers with her, maybe except for a few outside R&B

The saddest part is he didn't only beat her. He tried to kill her! He choked her until she was unconscious, probably thinking he did kill her. Not only did he do this but he did this on the night of the Grammy's where they were both expected to attend! I mean this lunatic didn't even think about that! And remember how he went on the run? How police were looking for him? If he thought he could get away with this on the biggest night of their careers. This man is very dangerous! I will never forget watching the red carpet that night and Ryan Seacrest saying he has gotten word that Rhianna was beaten and police are looking for CB. I mean no one could believe it! So sad that someone so beautiful and talented has such low self worth.

Kiwiwriter 649 pts

I'm irritated by Chris Brown and Rihanna reuniting.

 

First, a woman should never, EVER, reunite with a man who is physically abusive to her. Period.

 

Second, It's clear Chris Brown is far from monogamous.

 

Third, I find Rihanna classless in going to a restroom in a nightclub for a "quickie." She's in the public eye, a lot of teenage girls look up to her as a role model. Now they'll go off into restrooms in nightclubs and have quickies, and stay together with abusive boyfriends...which only leads to tragedy.

 

But, then, this is a woman who tweets her sex life...this is just wrong on so many levels.

heyimPearlilikefries 2104 pts

I don't know him personally, but from what I have heard about him he is a damaged person and she is too. Rihanna shows no signs of healing from her damage.Chris Brown is damaged and shows no signs of healing. Once again she's making a dumb ass decision.  I am damaged, been through the same thing she has been through (watching her mom being beat by her dad), but in NO way do I EVER want a man just like my father and in NO way do I want a friend like my mother (a woman who stays and lets a man beat on her, or takes a man back thinking he's changed).  Men like this NEVER change. That's why I'm quick to call a man more than a woman DBR. Men are born with compassion for women.  He IS DBR and she is too. I'm not sad for them though. And I won't be surprised if she ends up beat again an left out on the streets. He's a trash man, and she will have to learn the hard way. And YES I'm judging them. SFW.  I used to feel bad for this guy and I look for the good in people. But dealing with men like this you can't be.  How could she choose DRAKE over him? I know Drake yes, he's a c/rapper, but as far as I've heard of him, he's never beat up a woman, has never seen his mother beat, and is mature (breaking windows and getting upset when his albums don't sell.)

Christelyn 9250 pts moderator

just updated the post. Chris Brown released a video talking about how he's "in love with two people."

Brenda55 20868 pts moderator

 Christelyn  Yeah?  And? You got a problem with a brotha building a harem? 

Or do they still call them stables?

dani-BBW 1840 pts

Here's problem #1:

Rihanna's dad loves Chris Brown: 'He's always shown me respect'

 

With all of the renewed romance talk swirling around Rihanna and her maybe-ex (maybe not), Chris Brown, the singer's always-outspoken father decided to chime in about the man who was convicted of assaulting his daughter three years ago. "I love Chris, man," Ronald Fenty told In Touch magazine. "He's got so much charisma. And he's always had so much respect for me. That's what I love about him. He's always shown me respect."

And while Rihanna can't exactly say the same, Fenty has “no problem” with the couple rekindling their relationship. “I think everyone makes mistakes and they shouldn't be held to them forever,” Fenty remarked. Besides, he added, "She's happiest when she's around him, and as long as she's happy, I am happy and the whole world should be too."

 

http://todayentertainment.today.com/_news/2012/10/05/14245908-rihannas-dad-loves-chris-brown-hes-always-shown-me-respect

 

zipporah 1911 pts

@dani-BBW So THATS why she cant let chris go--she may be trying to PLEASE HER DYSFUNCTIONAL FATHER!! the Dood dont even care enough of his daughter for Chris to 'come correct' years ago and at least 'put a ring on it' I know, sometimes future grooms could learn to treat their brides well, but that woudl be 'supernatural'--maybe i'd be in a crappy situation like this if my dad was sooo nuts!

dani-BBW 1840 pts

What kind of father daps up the guy who beat his daughter into a bloody mess???

 

My father would never ever be on good terms again with a guy who had done that to me, if he was ever in the same room as my father he'd better be counting his lucky stars every minute he was still alive. 

 

This entire situation is incredibly sad.

Toni_M 20024 pts moderator

 dani-BBW Her second problem is that her father himself has been abusive towards her mother. This is something she saw as a child. It's called a cycle for a reason, people: The kids grow up rationalizing this abusive behavior and they don't know how to function in a non-dysfunctional relationship.

 

Of course he would place his being "respected" by her abuser above his daughter's safety. I wouldn't expect anything less from such a backward individual.

 

 

ScorpioEnigma09 80 pts

I find this whole situation ridiculously sad. 

DeepWater 2519 pts

I believe, to this very day, that Robert Wagner let, key word LET, Natalie Wood die in 1981 because of his jealousy over their friend, Christopher Walken, layin' down game on her amidst another argument while on the Splendor (yacht they were partying on).  He knew she had a grand fear of water, they'd been drinking, and amidst whatever was goin' down in that yacht, she'd chosen, I guess (I wasn't on the boat) to get into dingy (smaller nimbler boat that detaches from yacht to go to beach shore) to get away momentarily from argument.  It was called an "accident" regarding her death.  The investigation is still open to this day, 31 years later, and may be ultimately be pinned on Wagner, even in death, he's still alive and acting but a much older man now, and said investigation is seemingly leading to this position.  They were the "it" couple for Hollywood during their time and this would come as a major blow to that establishment, having one of your biggest stars (at that time) killing another even bigger star in a fit of jealously and rage.

 

My point here regarding Rihanna, though differently, has gone back to her abuser.  I've said this before and I'mma say it again.   One of these days, and I really, really do hope that I am wrong here, we the public, will wake up to the mornin' papers/internet to read that he a) beat her to death, b) pushed her completely out of a movin' car, or c) "she falls out of 10th floor window of fancy hotel" because "we were arguing and I just pushed her and she "fell" out of window.   She'll be dead before the age of 30

 

I've been on this Earth for a minute (near 50) and haven't seen it fail yet.  She will die at his hands.

Toni_M 20024 pts moderator

 DeepWater I hope you're wrong, but it's not like we haven't seen this scenario play out over and over. The fact that the persons involved are famous makes no difference.

 

All I can do is SMH and hope it doesn't end as badly as I suspect it will.

DeepWater 2519 pts

 Toni_M    That's right, Toni.  I suspect strongly that this will not end well should she continue to be with him.   What a beautiful (appearing) young girl (I don't know if she's a young lady) with a half-measure of talent and to give her self to someone seemingly not deserving of her is just sad, it ain't the first time, and sadly, won't be the last.

zipporah 1911 pts

@Toni_M @DeepWater theres one thing: Rhi Rhi is NO TINA TURNER----could you imagine Tina getting back with Ike after he beat her with a shoe?

introvertedwanderer 1056 pts

 DeepWater

 

"One of these days, and I really, really do hope that I am wrong here, we the public, will wake up to the mornin' papers/internet to read that he a) beat her to death, b) pushed her completely out of a movin' car, or c) "she falls out of 10th floor window of fancy hotel" because "we were arguing and I just pushed her and she "fell" out of window.   She'll be dead before the age of 30"

 

I don't know about this or that Chris Brown would be the one to hurt her,  but just from the lifestyles that a lot of these young celebrities have, anything is possible.  A lot of them are always partying, have issues with substance abuse, hang around shady people that leech of them, and get themselves into bad situations because of their lifestyles.  Lindsay Lohan is a prime example of that. While Rihanna doesn't have the self-destructive reputation that Lindsay does, she does tend to flaunt her behavior, and if she is hanging around people who don't have her best interest at heart and only want to be with her because of fame, I can see something tragic happening.

 

 
KingsDaughter 4961 pts

 introvertedwanderer  DeepWater  I think Rihanna's gotten so into this rebel/tough girl persona thing and gone and drank her own kool aid.

introvertedwanderer 1056 pts

 KingsDaughter  DeepWater

"I think Rihanna's gotten so into this rebel/tough girl persona thing and gone and drank her own kool aid."

 

Yep, I think that this is pretty much what has happened.  Chris Brown or no Chris Brown, I think that this is ultimately what has happened to Rihanna.  She seems to be all about that cool, tough image at this point, and actually it comes off pretty fake to me, and I'm not buying it from her. I get the feeling she's trying to be like Katie Perry (they are friends) but it isn't working for her.

 

KingsDaughter 4961 pts

 introvertedwanderer  DeepWater  It's totally manufactured based on a bad script, not so much Katy Perry. A similar thing happened to Miley Cyrus, only she never got beaten up by a boyfriend. I mean I remember when Rihanna first  became succesful with this other song- "Pon de replay" I think it was called. She could have been any of those Disney kids. Fresh cute, girl next door.  Then came the "edgy" over sexed rocker wannabe style. I suppose it was to give her some level of cross over appeal, both to non-R n'B audiences and older audiences.

 

This hyper sexed kind of image really only lasts for a short window. See how Christina Aguilera/Britney are trying to hold on to it? It's just pathetic.

Toni_M 20024 pts moderator

 KingsDaughter  introvertedwanderer  DeepWater Wow.

 

This comment takes me back to her "Umbrella" days and the whole, "Good girl gone bad" thing.

 

Never imagined the implications of that would lead to all this. :/ 

 

 

You know something, I wonder if Rihanna feels she can't shed her questionable image because (1) anything else will be "boring" and not sell" (2) she doesn't have the actual singing talent to lend her any range outside of this image.

 

Another thing could be that she doesn't feel she can go back to being a "good girl". Not after the nudes, the partying, and the controversies. Because black people wouldn't let her try and change, since they'd assume any move away from behaving in this way would be "fake" since being a "ho" is the truth.

 

The madonna/whore complex has a death grip on the BC. Even being an actual virgin isn't enough to escape: Be born a black woman, be considered a whore by default. I imagine it doesn't help if you throw in money and reliance on such brain dead persons to feed and clothe you. :/

 

 

Nothing about this young woman's situation is enviable to me. It's more likely a case of, "Good girl gone from bad to worse."

KingsDaughter 4961 pts

 Toni_M  introvertedwanderer  DeepWater I doubt Rihanna's concerned with the black community, she's got massive following all over the place. It's more of a pop starlet thing where they are constantly trying to outdo each other with gimmicks and shock factor lest they be pushed aside for the next upcoming young thing. It's all about sex and hotness, forget talent.

 

She might be a bright girl, I don't know, but she strikes me as a puppet to the machine.  I maybe wrong but Jay Z strikes me as a kind of Svengali figure in her life.

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 introvertedwanderer  KingsDaughter    A cautionary tale would be that of the Hitsville/Motown artists the handsome David Ruffin http://artistwiki.com/david-ruffin and Tammi Terrell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammi_Terrell.

 

I was a child when she died of a brain tumor that my my moms and other family members, as well as the BC at that time, said was exascerbated after he'd hit her with a Coke bottle, the old green and real glass Coke bottle, not like the plastic bottles of today) and that she'd, in the midst of an extremely nasty battle, cut his throat with a kitchen knife on her way down to the floor, she knew it would hurt him, the very thing he made his living with.   He became then known as the raspy voiced singer because of the necessary surgeries to restore his vocal cords she'd cut.  She fainted on stage with Marvin Gaye.  Her friends told her to get away from him "but I love him" was her retort to them (Diana Ross, Florence Ballard, Valerie Simpson, and Marvin Gaye were closer friends to her).   You won't see that part in Wikipedia.

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 KingsDaughter  introvertedwanderer  DeepWater Actually thinking of her Twitter comments, she's probably not that bright. She's certainly not that classy. 

 

It could be blamed on youth though. Some people are young and dumb and they think they can afford to be young and dumb forever and it will never catch up with them.

 

A favorite example is Lindsay Lohan. Once a favorite starlet, she's been reduced to jailbird and has been, not to mention Lifetime movies that nobody will watch. All by the ripe old age of 26. :S

 

 

It's never a matter of if such behaviors catch up with you, it's a matter of when. And it's often sooner than you're prepared for.

KingsDaughter 4961 pts

 DeepWater  introvertedwanderer I've read about her before. So so tragic and she was so young :( Remember too how James Brown abused her.

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 Toni_M  introvertedwanderer  DeepWater They're just cash cows for a little while. Unless you're Madonna or something you're pretty disposable.

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 DeepWater  introvertedwanderer  KingsDaughter Interestingly enough I'm only aware of the abusive relationship that Tammi was in because I saw the extended version of the "Temptations" miniseries where a scene that had not been used in the television version showed his behavior towards Tammi. It's kind of amazing to me that no one ever talks about it, especially the fact that her condition would have been made worse by the abusive relationship.

 

But silence and sweeping under the rug is a common behavior when it comes to black women in abusive relationships. :/

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 KingsDaughter  DeepWater  introvertedwanderer What, really? :S I wonder where someone could read more about this. I didn't even know she dated James Brown.

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 KingsDaughter  introvertedwanderer   Yup.  JB shole did. (heard from family members)  You younger ladies have many, many resources for help these days.  This is what I don't understand.   Why would a person allow another to slap, hit, beat, kick, throw objects, and beat one to within an inch of ones' life, and think this is love?   This to me is sick behavior is not "sexy" in the least.

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 Toni_M  introvertedwanderer  KingsDaughter   I guess back in the day the word spread, unlike instant info with the internetwebs of today, word got around the BC far and wide and it was alleged to be plain knowledge back then.

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 KingsDaughter  DeepWater  introvertedwanderer Thanks!