First Black FLOTUS Doesn’t “Look Like a First Lady?”

First Black FLOTUS Doesn’t “Look Like a First Lady?”

What exactly should a First Lady look like? According to a VA voter, not Michelle Obama. By Jenn M. Jackson

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You may or may not have heard a recent interview on NPR by political correspondent Ari Shapiro at the Republican National Convention. In the clip, Shapiro discusses Obama with likely Romney voters to get a picture of the sentiment toward President Obama at the event. One comment that garnered criticism and created a major uproar came from a woman named Bobbie Lussier.

When asked about President Obama, Lussier explained “I just – I don’t like him. Can’t stand to look at him. I don’t like his wife. She’s far from the first lady. It’s about time we get a first lady in there that acts like a first lady, and looks like a first lady.” Really? Michelle doesn’t “look” like a first lady? What did that mean exactly? Could it be because every first lady to date has been a white woman?

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Listeners to the original airing of the interview denigrated Shapiro because they believed he didn’t do a good enough job of putting these words in context. They noted that it not only was offensive to Blacks but it was also “a gross breach of our social contract with soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines.”
Shapiro had the opportunity to re-interview Lussier just this week. He asked her to clarify her comments for the listeners. Here is the exchange:

Shapiro: “You said something to the effect of, you were very unhappy with the president and first lady.”
Lussier: “Yes.”
Shapiro: “And you said she doesn’t look like a first lady. …”
Lussier: “No, she doesn’t. She doesn’t look or act. I mean, can you imagine you know, Kennedys or the Bushes or anybody doing pushups on the floor? I mean you know. That’s just not a first lady.”
Shapiro: “A lot of people wondered if there was a racial undertone to your comments.”
Lussier: “No it’s not. I don’t care what color she is. It’s just she just doesn’t act and look like a first lady. I mean she’s more about showing her arms off. … I think that’s very inappropriate for a lot of functions that she goes to.”
Shapiro: “So do you mean it’s an issue of modesty?”
Lussier: “Yeah. It’s respect and … for being in the White House.”
Shapiro: “Fewer sleeveless dresses, fewer pushups …”
Lussier: “They talk about more like her dresses and how she looks and stuff and her arms and whatever.”
Shapiro: “People talked a lot about the dresses that other first ladies wore for sure.”
Lussier: “Well, yeah.”
Shapiro: “You look a little frustrated.”
Lussier: “I am. I just hope Romney wins.”

Huffington Post produced a piece on this detailing the comments and where they may have come from. But, what might be most striking about this is the development in visual politics that is implied. On one hand, there is an obvious assertion that the original comments were meant in a racially slanted way. That Lussier was in effect saying that Black women don’t look like first ladies. In contrast however, there is the second point that maybe the general listener or reader may not have enough information to truly understand what Lussier meant by the comments.

But, then, there is a third way to slice this pie. What Lussier is really getting at with her comments is that there is a conception of what a president or a first lady is supposed to “look like.” Or, maybe, it is a misconception. To date, the prototypical image of the President has been a white Anglo-Saxon male. And, since no previous president has been married to a woman of minority status, the archetype of a first lady has been a middle- to older-aged white woman. How could Michelle Obama ever really “look like” a first lady? And, how could she really “act” like a first lady? Being fit really hasn’t been a thrust of first lady-dom in the past. And the “Dougie” certainly wasn’t something you’d see Laura Bush or Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis do during their tenure as FLOTUS.

But that doesn’t make it wrong. We ought to challenge this misconception rather than embrace it. With an ever changing American identity, shouldn’t we be okay with not “looking like” we used to? At this point, shouldn’t that be the goal? We cannot be sure what Lussier meant. But we can be sure that there is a specific voting bloc in this country that doesn’t like the Obamas because they don’t “look” the part. For a generation of Americans, Michelle Obama will be the first First Lady they know. And, we should respect that however different it may be from our experience. It is a new American experience we are living in. And, shockingly enough, we’ve had a new American first family for four years now. It’s beyond time to accept it.

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BlueCornMoon 5 pts

Since the people made their choice last month ( ROFLAMO ! Lussier can go jump in the lake. I'm old school...grew up with segregation & the civil rights movement. Had a cousin who was a lawyer & worked with Thurgood Marshall so I heard all kinds of variations on the "I'm not  racist but......"  statement and then list a bunch of nonsense that would never have been brought up to a white person with the very same attributes. Lussier is a flaming bigot & thinks we're all too dumb to notice. That shows the real picture of ignorance. Being so stupid & delusional you think everyone is dumber than you. " "Doesn't LOOK like a First Lady" ???  Keyword  is LOOK. Now just LOOK at all the other First Ladies! Notice something very obvious??  Well I guess all those GOP folks got their comeuppance when Obama won but are still too dumb & clueless to see they're being left behind & are out of touch with the common people both middle class & poor. Would rather see the USA go to h*ll in a handbasket than have a black president succeed.

Obamasgirl 5 pts

ppl cant be mad at our first lady cause she got rhythm, believes in being fit and healthy , and not syuck up and old like the others, we have a respectable blk first lady and ppl need to stop being jealous and accept it, she is our history and that will never change no matter how ppl feel about it !   

Joyce345 1738 pts

She is extremely good looking, classy, and in excellent shape. She also behaves very well.

 

Even if she is the first FLOTUS to do pushups on the floor, she did right. Obesity has never been the epidemic that it is now WORLDWIDE. Instead of criticizing her for the pushups, people need to get some exercise themselves.

respect 9 pts

I love it when people tell the truth mixed with hatred it comes out making them look ignorant.  I am concerned about hatred ( racial) remarks made about any President or any person.  I may dislike your fashion, attitude, actions, or believe, but to hate to see someone (that is you do not have a person or intimate relationship with) that has done no physical or mental harm to you is sad and sick.  Freedom, individuality, respect of a race, cultural differences, and youthfulness our First Lady and President bring.  

DeepWater 2444 pts

 respect   Yes, respect, that's so true.  Its ironic now that in about I think the early 90s jokes were made about a Black president in the White House, (per Martin Lawrence, Earthquake, Muddasucka and 'em)  playin' basketball and havin' hardwoods in the WH, bwaaaaaahhha, somewhat prescient considering it was NEVER in the radar that a Black man would ever become president at that time.   And, yes, President and Mrs. Obama are youthful and do things with their daughters (among many reasons why they do seem so youthful probably).   Well, compared to my moms' life, Roosevelt, Truman, and Eisenhower were her predecessor presidents prior to JFK (and family) becoming president, they were extremely youthful ("Camelot") as compared to them.

shak 14 pts

So, that wasn't Jackie Kennedy in sleeveless dresses? Oh okay.

 

To the push-ups and Dougie aspect... am I suppose to believe EXORCIZING is wrong now too? GTFOH! 

 

This is PURELY "race" driven! If the interviewer has to tell you what YOU are trying to say, chances are it's pure BS! Nothing you said is out of character for a first lady because I can show you many before her who have danced (is it her fault that the dances have changed over the years and are dances from her culture/what she knows?), I named Jackie as far as wardrobe is concerned, and as far as her exorcizing... well today we have far more trouble with weight than there has been for most of the women before her, it's about time someone chose to help America/kids fight the obesity problem! As far as people talking about her arms and looks all the time, that says more about them and how America (the world today) is obsessed with a person's appearance instead of intelligence/success/character! Not once did this lady give a reason to dislike her character or any of the programs she is associated with. That should prove just how much her dislike/hate is "race" based!

People are more worried about ''free will'' than what needs to be done. Childhood obesity and juvenile diabetes is rapidly consuming our nation's children. Yet, all some people care about is that they can't send their child a cupcake to school or that they can't get a Snickers bar out of a vending machine. You don't want government involved...until you need help in paying for hospital costs that could have been avoided if only you made Jr put down the family size bag of Cheetos. Let Mrs. Obama stand up for something that parents should already be rallying for. Stop bitching about government takeover and start fighting to extend your child's life.

DWB 7255 pts

I am not the one that got government into health care in the first place, in fact, the coming brutish pushing around of people who fail to toe the government line and the control of individual choice was one of the many reasons lovers of freedom have fought so hard against government control of health decisions.

 

My children are quite healthy thank you and that is part of my point. I don't need or require your advice or help.

 

Your blind faith in the government is quite short sighted because I promise you: Eventually someone who you oppose will eventually gain power and use that power you gave to the government to come after you and yours. They will restrict freedoms that you hold dear.

 

Don't be surprised if one of the voices who support you is mine.

Veron 1387 pts

I'm having issues replying to older comments, either livefyre or my browser feels the need to have a conniption when I click the "show 50 more" button.  But I'm replying to DWB addressing expense of federalized school lunches, and differences between the full price lunches and the subsidized lunches.

 

The way the national school lunch program works is through reimbursement.  The public schools/ districts are the ones that put out the initial cost for the lunch food.  They apply for reimbursement of their lunch costs from the government.  The government reimburses them ONLY for lunches that meet the USDA dietary guidelines.  Each lunch that fits the USDA standard for sodium, fat, and vitamin percentage etc. etc. will get reimbursement.  That means that if the school does not feel like following USDA guidelines for their general population, they don't have to.  They just can't expect for the government to reimburse them. The vast majority of public schools above grade 4 do not try to get these reimbursements. Public schools below grade 4 might try, but 70% of them either fail, or don't feel like the effort.

 

Conversely, the lunch subsidy programs are paid for DIRECTLY from the government, and therefore MUST follow USDA guidelines.  Any student who is enrolled under a subsidy or low-income program is eating food on the government's dime, and, therefore, doesn't have too much of a leg to stand on if they have an issue with what is being served.  These are the meals with Michelle Obama's face on them (and that's about it, she's a spokesperson. It's not like she's passing legislation). I would think it was a good thing that the government programs are now trying to add a little bit of quality to low-income meals, instead of cutting costs and feeding slop to kids who parents can't afford to feed them.

 

Very few schools, if any, feed ALL of their students based on USDA guidelines, because getting 100% reimbursement from the government for your food costs is a shot in hell. If there is a vending machine in your cafeteria, you're going to lose your general reimbursements. If you're still counting ketchup as a vegetable, you're going to lose your general reimbursement.  Since the schools know that it's pain in the ass to get reimbursement for their general (meaning non-subsidized) population, they eat that cost, and offer what they feel like offering, which is usually cheap food.

 

As for the expense, yes, it's very expensive.  The integration process is going to cost 3.2 billion over the next 5 years (a bargain we're being told), and if there was any criticism of this plan, it should be right there.  However, it's a criticism that has nothing to do with school lunches, Michelle Obama, or the public school systems, and everything to do with the lopsided food subsidies that are being handed predominantly to corn, soy, and dairy farms, instead of offering more help to farms that grow fruits, green vegetables, and organics.  If it were cheaper to feed our children balanced meals, instead of cheese and corn syrup, school lunches may have been revised more sensibly years ago.

 

All of this said, you have a choice, and your school has a choice. Ask your school if they're attempting to meet USDA standards for all their students.  They may smile and tell you yes, thinking it's what you want to hear, but then ask them what their reimbursement protocol is.  I'd bet you their getting less than 20% of their food costs back from the government, meaning that they're running their own show, and feeding your kids exactly whatever the f*ck they feel like.

Brice Cameron 2063 pts

 Veron 

Very Informative.  Thanks for posting.

Statuesque 1713 pts

 Veron  DWB Thank you Veron.  I never knew that this is how the program worked.  No wonder so many schools are offering up Frankenfood to needy kids.

 

I am right there with you on the subsidies on these nutritionally problematic foods.  I don't know which Congress would ever take them away, but I keep hoping.  Small-scale and organic farmers are getting killed not only because of the subsidies to corporate farms, but also due to their ruthless lobbying and anti-competitive practices.  True free market forces aren't allowed to develop, because most Americans, when asked, want to know much more about how their food is produced and shy away from GMO and polluted products when they are properly labeled.  I can't even say or write Monsanto without throwing up a little in my mouth.  We feed our kids like pigs (literally!) and then wonder why they are fattening up nicely.

DWB 7255 pts

 Veron Thank you for your post; I appreciate the info and will do some checking. I feed my own kids so I am arguing out of principle, but the closer the government is to you the more power you have in the decisions that they make. I am not a big supporter of the organic movement, but if others support it and want it as an option, they are much more likely to get what they want on the local/state level. I in no way want any business (big or small) to have undue influence because of who they know and how much money they contribute.

 

Now, since today is my wife and I's first wedding anniversary, off to plan our long weekend!

DaisyDooks 24 pts

Most of the criticisms toward our FIRST LADY are non-substantive and steeped in racial bigotry.  There is no intelligence among her emotionally-charged, linear-minded critics.

Criticalthinker 385 pts

 DaisyDooks Love this comment Daisy!!!!!

 

Wayyyyy back a about a decade ago in undergrad while taking Logic and Proofs (Crazy me was a math major and computer science minor---yuck!!!) a professor said something that stuck with me for life. If someone cannot prove an argument based on substantiated deductive logic (i,e. if p implies q,  therefore p is  true, then q must be true and other related same modus deductive statements that are identical to the proposition of p---->q). All that crazy nightmare reminiscence to say usually when someone cannot prove their proposition or thinking with logic, it is emotionally based and dismissed.

 

You just  said it mush more eloquently than I ever could....I so agree with you!!!

deedee24 7 pts

1st  off what does a 1st lady look like.should she look like Hillary Clinton who husband got sucked off in the white house or should she look more like the bush bitch that said to all the victims of Katrina that the dome  that they were staying at was better than they were use to listen if you can paint a image of what the first lady should look like then do that until then kick rocks that's whats wrong with us today we say we want change but when it appears in our face we find millions of reasons why we don't like it Michele is Michele and we cant expect or ask that she be someone else keep doing what your doing Mobama and i hope that my arms looks 1/2 as good as yours does.   

DeepWater 2444 pts

I became familiar with Jacqueline Kennedy growing up after her having remarried, through tv and printed media (no internet then)  to the very rich and very powerful shipping magnate Aristotle Onassis.   I have always known her as Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis.

DeepWater 2444 pts

I love MObama.  IMO she is hip, what's hapnin' now, smart, intelligent, classy, funny, and represents her husband and our nation well, and I can relate to her.    

 

I already been through Lady Bird Johnson, Pat Nixon, Betty Ford (one of our better previous first ladies in that she'd had cancer and was an alcoholic and began The Betty Ford Center which was an unheard thing to go public with at that time and of which a many a rehab center is built upon), Nancy "Just Say No" Reagan, Barbara "I know nothing about Black people all" Bush, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Laura "golly gee wilickers didn't know too much about my husband's alcoholism and cocaine use" Bush, and now the hippest and brightest woman (I've seen so far) in The White House........

DaisyDooks 24 pts

 DeepWater -  Wait a minute, you don' broke it down and spilled the business.  So, which of these former First Ladies is Mrs. Obama supposed to emulate? *snickering*

DeepWater 2444 pts

 DaisyDooks   Bwaaaahhaaaaaa.   I'm preservin' pretty well ain't I?     MObama is not to emulate anyone.   I love that she moves her body, likes to laugh, shows children, and adults for that matter, about better eating habits (I see there's hullabaloo about these polices below - lol).  I love that she and her husband have at least rubbed shoulders with regular folk (at one time).   There is, finally, a woman that looks like my Black self reflected back to me.   I never, ever thought a) a (mixed heritage) Black man would become president in my lifetime, b) with a bonafied Black American woman on his arm, and c) that she'd be a woman that I could identify with and, fairly, relate to.  This was a true shift in this nation to "choose" the man as president in the first place.   I never though I'd see it in my lifetime, I figured I'd be long gon', or near gon', before I'd see a (mixed heritage) Black man as president of these here United States of America.   Never thought I'd see it but have lived to.  Many folk have shed blood, sweat, tears, and their very lives for this.  It's just pure awesome.

DaisyDooks 24 pts

 DeepWater - Yes, indeed you are.  Love your alias.  It resonates with me.  I'm in agreement with your awesome post.

DeepWater 2444 pts

 DaisyDooks   Well, thank you so much and is appreciated.

 

Speaking for myself of course it's just really fantastic to see a Black woman on a world scale and stage that essentially dismisses the immediate stereotypes that folk have about her specifically, and Black women as a whole generally, and they (racists/teabaggers/far right wing neo-cons) are confused with this image.  What I mean by that is she isn't coming across as a mule, sapphire, welfare queen (Reagan), mammy, the head swirlin', finga, snappin, weave snatchin' image that is "associated" with some Black women and this is confusing to the dominant culture.    

 

America ain't used to this type of Black woman.  Well, the time has come where'd they'd betta cause I shole as heyall ain't feelin' Ann "I'm a Stepford Wife who can't/don't/won't/never will relate to the unwashed masses of those 47% of loosers, moochers, slackers, sheeple, serfs and people who have one of those jobber things like "those people" Romney.

 

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012.

 

 

 

DeepWater 2444 pts

 DaisyDooks   Oh, yeah, I forgot, Rosalyn Carter (between Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan).

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heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

HAHAHAHAHAH! Haven't heard that one in a while.

Statuesque 1713 pts

Some people in this country (and as we already know, they aren't all White) CANNOT STAND to see a healthy, happy, well-loved, powerful and confident Black woman.  The heifer (heffa!) is right:  Michelle doesn't look like the typical FLOTUS.  Neither did Eleanor Roosevelt, in word or deed, and people just could not STAND it.  Let them hate.  Most of us love that Michelle is rocking Steve McQueen rather than a Church Lady special.  She is still young after all.

 

I think the Food Pyramid is a bunch of crap and too centered on cheap grains. Most school lunches are craptastic, veggies or not, because the quality of the veggies, milk and meat is so low.  But what Michelle is doing is the right thing...she is forcing the conversation.  Personally I don't think schools should be pushing junk food, but if parents want their kids to eat it they should pay for their lunches.  What is wrong with kids planting gardens?  Why is overprocessed "food" served to kids anyway?  What happened to actually cooking a meal (which is cheaper than buying processed foods every day of the week)?

 

DaisyDooks 24 pts

 Statuesque - *clapping*  I just love when my SSTRS get it--and speak on it. 

Statuesque 1713 pts

 DaisyDooks @DaisyDooks Me too!!!  I don't have to agree with everything FLOTUS does to appreciate her fierceness.  There's this undercurrent of "who does she think she is" with a lot of this criticism.  There were a few (*cough* colorstruck) people in my family who were also very critical of her and attacked her looks.  If she looked like Vanessa Williams they'd love her.  Whatever...

JennMJack 1180 pts

 Statuesque

 I definitely think age has a lot to do with it. Honestly, Lussier puts me in the mind of that older grandma saying that she doesn't understand why kids nowadays are hootin and tootin and doin the boogaloo or something. She is obviously out of touch.

 

I guess the crux of what the article is getting at is how we assimilate her view into understandable visual politicking. Was Michelle doing push ups to show how she lives her "Get Moving!" campaign? Does her fashion reflect a new image that the Obama campaign wants to project of the First Lady? These are important questions because of the precedent the Obamas are setting for future first families. Thanks for the comment:)

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 JennMJack  Statuesque The youngest First Lady was 19 years old and people absolutely hated it (she was married in). First Ladies are supposed to be half-dead. 

Statuesque 1713 pts

 JennMJack LOL yeah it did have that "get off my lawn" quality to it, huh?

 

I like the direction you're taking it because the precedent has been set.  Cat's out of the bag.  Now what? The next FLOTUS wearing silver lame and showing off her killer legs will just be another "Michelle Obama." 

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 Statuesque "Personally I don't think schools should be pushing junk food, but if parents want their kids to eat it they should pay for their lunches. "

 

Yes. You have said it. When I was in elementary school the garden was amazing, we would play with the ladybugs.. and they'll pee on our hands. LOL

DaisyDooks 24 pts

 TheZitaZitomihr  Statuesque -  Aaaaah, the good ol' day...

DaisyDooks 24 pts

 TheZitaZitomihr  Statuesque -oops  'days'  <<---Drat! Where's the edit button when you need it?  :-)

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 DaisyDooks  Statuesque It was so fun. Dirt and soil was so fun to play in (don't care what any of you guys have to say bout' my dirty child self) until I would get sent to the principals office! XD It inspired me to have my own little gardening, it's really peaceful... we are literally surrounded with cement. 

tracyreneejones 3514 pts

 TheZitaZitomihr  DaisyDooks  Statuesque OOOOH, I love me some dirt!! Childhood gardens and growing up in "The Garden State" of NJ, inspecting creatures, and watching growth and eating stuff that came out the ground was one of the dopest parts of childhood. I still grow, and appreciate lady bugs!! 

Toni_M 18714 pts moderator

@BamaFan I am deleting your comments because they violate the rules. If you disagree with someone, dare to have the audacity to debate. We have people here of various political persuasions, and there's nothing wrong with that. This is your first and last warning

 

 

A general mod warning: Politics are touchy as always, but that doesn't mean you get to be disrespectful and rude. Respect the house rules and other commenters. Failure to do so will get your comments deleted and repeated ugliness will get you the ban hammer. 

Brenda55 19278 pts moderator

 Toni_M  

Toni_M. I would never have thought that a thread about FLOTUS would bring out the trolls.  Go figure.

Toni_M 18714 pts moderator

 Brenda55 I am as surprised as you are. :S The political posts can get pretty heated without the "help". I tend to avoid them for that reason but I guess I'm going to have to keep an eye out. 

 

I sense that a lot of these people aren't regular lurkers, and just follow political stories and try and comment wherever they are posted. :/ Which is annoying, because such persons don't bother reading the rules and just expect their text-vomit to be accepted. 

 

UGH.

TheNewNegro 11 pts

Sounds like someone is more jealous of how great First Lady looks more than the fact that she does not fit the "look". But this is the type of ignorance we as Americans are faced with on a daily basis. It is a shame that people do not want the Obamas to continue to represent a postive role model for the race that built the country to where it is. African-Americans never attack how any of the first 43 first ladies "looked" its sad that policies and agendas have taken presidence over policy and leadership and the well-being of a nation that is still devided. Race should be the last reason any logical person should vote for President Obama. He has not delieverd on is all of his policies but Mitt Romney does not even believe in Americans that keep the country running. But continue to be ignortant to facts and continue to look for any reason for you not to re-elect what is the obvious choice out of the two evils. Just remember "buring your neighbors house down will not make yours look any better

 

 

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

How could you not like a president because of their personality? Is that what we are voting for now? So teens turn 18 and vote...  they vote for who's presidents wife do push-ups and wears alleged whore suits? LOL I'm more worried about what his policies and what he's voted for on the senate. I could give a damn about the presidents or the wife of the presidents personal life, If they run the country right then I am GOOD. Say you don't like Obama and First Lady because of his policies. But don't say no suspect stuff about 'you don't like looking at him.' Are you serious? 

 

Some adults become so stupid when they grow up. Five year olds might as well run this country and be allowed to vote. The last thing they would be worried about is some damn push-ups and dresses. 

DDS999 18 pts

 I think I'm  waisting my time explaining the truth so I'm done with this B.S. If they don't see it thats there damn problem and who cares let them be ignorant and pick on clothing issues and pushups that shows how tiny their mind is. I call those people Peanut brain lol... 

DeepWater 2444 pts

OBAMA (Mr. and Mrs.) all day, everyday, 2012.

DDS999 18 pts

@ ZitaZitomihr I agree with you 100%. What she did at schools cafeteria is wonderful and people who don't see that obviously don't give a hell about obesity and caner in this country. This country by far is the unhealthiest and has more obesity than any other country in the WORLD and people who don't like what Michelle did are not healthy and don't care about our children's health. You name one other first lady who did what Michelle has done in the past 4 years? Thats what I thought there is none!

She's active, assertive, educated and a leader. She's not quiet like a mouse nor is she her husband poppet. She clearly speaks her mind unlike any other first lady. The only person who comes second to her is Hillary Clinton and thats why she's working under Obama. The Clintons and the Obamas are the best two presidents we had in a while. 

 

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

Oh this is great. Since she's doing push-ups and wearing fashionable clothing she's not good. This is so stupid, what does that have to do with putting America back on track? I cannot believe this! What's this persons address. I will literally try and become a first lady and piss everybody off. It's hard to criticize when their is very nothing to criticize so he goes for the push-ups and dresses with sleeves. This sound like sexism to me. How exactly is a First Lady supposed to act? Is their a manual to that? People should worry about what the president is doing. And this makes me believe that this is something racial because who does that? Who comments on dresses and push-ups? What differences does it make for the country?

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

This woman has done a lot for the health of the countries children. School lunches people... they are not raggedy any more? They are healthier.. What is their not to like about her?

DWB 7255 pts

 TheZitaZitomihr My kids, among millions, disagree...

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 DWB About school lunches? Aren't they healthier? I seen on inside edition kids complaining about school lunches. But that has been happening since the beginning of school. When kids are bored they complain about school lunches and the school officials. I even complained about school lunches.

DWB 7255 pts

 TheZitaZitomihr Your idea of what is healthy and my idea are obviously quite different. The old government food pyramid was flawed and I do not have anymore faith in the new one.

 

And again, who gave her authority and how can she be held accountable if I dissent? And why does the federal government have a say in school lunches anyway?

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 DWB Okay well that must me true. I feel that healthier food (fruits and vegetables) and less healthier food (in moderation) are a great thing for children. The obesity rate in this country is out of control and it's hurting children now more than ever. Children get their first 2 meals of the day at school. I would rather them be good nutritional meals than meals of processed food. 

 

If the parents and children don't like whats being served at the schools, they can bring their own lunches (like I did when they were serving complete crap). They allow you to leave the premises (MS and HS) to buy lunch. But I feel the school food should be healthy and nutritional regardless. 

 

What about the school just don't serve lunches at all? And the federal government could just give a crap so the parents could have a say. Parents don't even see their kids until 8 most of the time so they won't even know. 

DWB 7255 pts

 TheZitaZitomihr Why the food intake is a problem, the society that we now live in in modern America is much less involved in physical activity that generations before. I completely support your right to raise your children the way that you choose, but I believe that more choice should always be an option for parents that have different ideas about what constitutes a proper balanced diet.

 

I can't even send in cupcakes for my daughter's birthday!

 

It is NOT the governments job! (Especially the federal government)

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

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"I can't even send in cupcakes for my daughter's birthday!"

 

What? Are you serious. I think that the school lunches schools serve should be healthy and nutritious because if a child should eat from an unknown source it should be healthy. But if they want to leave and go somewhere else of their choice that is fine too. If a parent wants to send their kids something that should be fine. 

 

I had no idea about that, THAT is sick. Reminds me of the law in New York about the beverages.