I know some of the fans here are probably saying, “Who cares?” You may not, but I guarantee you that there are many, many, MANY black women who read this blog still incredibly concerned about what black men think about the possibility of them dating white guys.
Meet Steven!
The comment below came up on our Facebook fan page, made by the few openly supportive black men on the page, named Steven. I’ve got to say, I respect his candidness.
Black men feel it’s ok for them to swirl and not black women because we are a bunch of hypocritical chauvinist pigs/dogs. Like ALL mean of ALL races, we all feel we can be as free as we want but the woman must stay home reserve and confine herself & stand by for us. And after we have sowed all our oats you women should be there waiting for us no matter what. Oh and if we want, hell we can just leave you for someone else in spite of all your sacrifices and unwavering loyalty.
If you don’t do this and develop a mind of your own and start opening up all you dating options, then you’re a bed wench. That’s pretty much it in a nutshell. It is a crazy and sickening mentality but many of us men actually think that way. And we see nothing wrong with it. Does this mentality sound familiar to you? What other crazy group of people actually think like this?
That’s right you guessed it, racist white men is the correct answer. Many of us black men have became the very thing we despise the most. Not all of us, but many.
I have to say, in the societies where chauvinism is allowed to thrive–India and tons of Arab countries–the idea that women have agency is met with mockery, threats, and violence. White men used to be the worst offenders of this, “I can do it, but you, little woman can not” until their women rose up collectively to fight for change.
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You realize of course that this is going to set this section on fire today. However, Mr. Steven here is only confirming what we already knew. And it’s those like Mr. Steven here that helped keep me from opening my options for 40 years!! And so to those like Mr. Steven, I’ll say this: Too bad, so sad, I’m out now!! Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty, I’m free at last!
Mr. Steven here is only confirming what we already knew.
I am responding in the hopes that this information might help you going forward. 🙂 For what it’s worth, this isn’t something that I, as a WM, had any clue about. Yes, I knew there were BW out there who would only ever date a BM…they would never “date outside their race”. But I never knew that 1) in many cases this was indoctrinated into them by the BC and/or 2) BM held these kinds of attitudes that Mr. Steven has described here. I simply assumed that the majority of BW actively disliked (or just were not attracted to) non-BM.
It wasn’t until I started reading BB&W that I was made aware of these possible reasons why. And I had many years of IR friendships and relationships under my belt before I came here. So it’s pretty amazing that I could go that long and no BW ever told me these things, despite the fact that I had had discussions on this topic with them.
Thank you. As I was saying the other day, I’ve learned a lot about myself in opening up my options. It’s like the scales have fallen from my eyes and I see pretty men of all colors that I never saw before!! I hope more white guys get beyond their own limitations and start seeing black women as a viable option as well.
I believe things happen for a reason. White guys have always been around me and who knows how many opportunities I passed up by being closed minded. Now is definitely my time to do this.
It’s no accident I never married a black man. I don’t think I was supposed to.
I’ve learned a lot about myself in opening up my options.
I too have learned from my experiences with BW both in real life and having these kinds of conversations online. Some things that I knew a little about, I know more about now. Other things I was totally unaware of and oblivious to. As I’ve gathered more info over the years, it has helped me to understand many things that happened in the past that I couldn’t figure out till now.
I believe things happen for a reason. White guys have always been around me and who knows how many opportunities I passed up by being closed minded.
I totally believe everything happens for a reason!!
I think just about every BW I have known has told me that WM always seemed to treat them better and pay more attention to them. After going some period of time only trying to date BM (and either having no luck, or having bad luck / experiences), they made the choice to try something different. They chose to act on the attention that was being given by non-BM, vs. waiting around for, or trying to seek out, an interested BM.
I do believe you will find the right person. You’re doing the work we all need(ed) to do in order to find the right relationship.
The truth: that’s how this whole thing started!! A white guy was talking trash to me every time he saw me!! I didn’t know if he was serious or not!! He was serious, but was married. But I noticed with other white guys I could easily talk to them! And here we are!
It’s my time!!!
I am too cute for him not to find me!!!
Based on what I can see from your little icon photo, I have to agree!
I swear if you are ever in DC, let me know. We have to do coffee!!
I’ve been to the area only once. I had to visit Gannet publishing in McLean, VA for work. If I ever get back down that way again, I will certainly let you know. 🙂
OH…I forgot to address this:
I hope more white guys get beyond their own limitations and start seeing black women as a viable option as well.
Yes…this is very important. I don’t ever want to come across as believing all the movement has to come from one side. No…it has to be BOTH ways. While I believe that there are a certain percentage of WM that would never consider dating a BW, I believe the percentage of those that would is larger than expected. I think a lot of WM are like I was in that they don’t think BW would be interested in them. That may be less the case with younger men (I’m mid-50’s). A few here have told me that younger men don’t think that way.
I agree.
May I offer my perspective here, Phyllis?
You said, ” And it’s those like Mr. Steven here that helped keep me from opening my options for 40 years!!”
As I read his comment in the post, I saw that he was describing the attitude, not necessarily himself. While it’s true that he may have been, and perhaps might still be, like that, his closing is what nails him down. He’s speaking our against that attitude and that mode of behavior. Please read it again:
“Does this mentality sound familiar to you? What other crazy group of people actually think like this?
That’s right you guessed it, racist white men is the correct answer. Many of us black men have became the very thing we despise the most. Not all of us, but many.”
I think that’s why Christelyn made it part of the blog post, that he’s clearly saying what he sees wrong with the issue. He sees the hypocrisy and is speaking against it.
I respect his honesty. However, I think he would have been better served telling this to other black men. And why tell it to women who are opening their options? I cannot get with this guy.
The way that I see it, the only true hope that we have is that we can come together and support each other. So, in instances like these, I will give him and those like him a pass.
He simply made post on the FB page and Chris decided to share that here. The last thing we need to do is shout down those that are trying to help. And hopefully he is taking this message beyond sites like this. Examples of that would show him to be a true ally though, not belonging to FB, I wouldn’t know how to go about proving this.
I wasn’t trying to shout this guy down. As I said to an poster earlier today, it’s great that he’s honest and all. But my purpose for being on this site and others like it are to gain a better understanding of men from other races in order to have the best relationships with them I can. And to be around like minded people. This guy’s opinion does not help me toward those goals. And with all due respect to you, I think the only reason you are seeing a few men like him speak up is because women like me are leaving the bc more and more everyday. And they are trying to stem the tide!
I’m sorry Phyllis, I wasn’t referring to you specifically with the “shout down” comment.
It’s just what usually happens here when Chris attempts to point out that there are some BM out there that are standing up for BW. It seems like she can’t win. She’s either accused of constant BM bashing or gets flak for pointing out BM that she feels deserve a small part on this platform.
I can only compare it to, if I was a member of an MRA forum, coming down on a woman that agreed with the platform and supported men’s rights.
I came to this site for the similar reasons as you. MIne were mainly to quell any issues that J had with IRR. It was a good decision because I learned much more than I bargained for. The things that BW have and continue to go through continues to flabbergast me.
Your opinion is probably true in most cases. Some are worried as we have had a few comments tossed our way when out that are pure examples of that. “I hate when I see that” and “He’s got one of the ‘good’ ones”. Hateful and insecure statements.
Maybe, just like BW have been afraid to step out and date for fear of reprisal, this man has been dealing with the same community of grief. Maybe him stepping up will change a few people’s minds. I know… wishful thinking but we have to start somewhere.
If you would like any advice or meet for coffee or something, that would be nice.
No need to apologize. I think we are on the same team. And Lord knows I mean no disrespect to CK at all. I have a friend (a black male in fact) that says “when the student is ready, the teacher will appear”! That’s what CK is to me. She is doing a invaluable service and is not going to please everyone. I am 58 years old and had never dated interracially before. But I don’t believe in coincidences. And it’s no coincidence that I found this site. Or the people in it. I am definitely open to coffee. I live in the DC area. And you?
This is Bierbasstard from MD. I changed my icon and name back to BWC which was the name I used on the old LiveFyre comment system this site had until it shut down last year.
When I signed up for disqus, BWC was already taken. I think that it was linked to another Disqus log in that I was using on the political site Alternet. I got frustrated beating my head against some vert obnoxious commenters so I abandoned it lol
Hi there!! I was wondering why I hadn’t heard from you!! I must admit I’d missed you! Just let me know when you want to meet for coffee. Anywhere in Baltimore would do as I love coming up there!!
Didn’t recognize my elucidated snarky comments? Lol!
No, I really didn’t!!! I actually went back and reread some of the comments and still didn’t recognize you!!
Did you get my contact information? I tried to squeeze it in and then edit it out. I was hoping it would show up in your email notification before the edit.
No, I’m sorry, I didn’t. I left my email address on here for a while as well, but I don’t think you don’t saw it. We’ll figure this out.
^%
We will always be separated. Mammies against us. I will give it another ten to twenty years for any of the mammies and pick mes with a it of sense to wake up.
Black me do think it’s okay for them to date out and want black women to be upset about it. Any black man that’s mentioned dating out for himself and I agreed has looked at me surprised. This is because they were saying it to get a rise out of me. Which I didn’t realize at the time. This is also why I don’t see myself dating another black man. Not full black anyway. It has nothing to do with skin color by with mentality. I barely have any black male friends because they tend to eventually say something disrespectful. Agree with @Phyllis Pierce. We know this now. I wouldn’t even want to interact with this guy that posted this. Just feel like black men are always trying to get credit for something.
Here, here!! I feel you with not wanting to date another black man. I know CK, I know: character over color. However, after 40 years of seeing almost no character, I don’t have another 40 to look for it!! So, I’m afraid the black man has seen the last of me. And for the trolls who may come for me: bite me!!
I wonder if the black community gets more butthurt at answers like yours, “Tried it, got burned, wouldn’t do it again” or the ones like me who say, “I have never dated a black man. Don’t hate them. Just not attracted to them, really. They’re not my type.”
“You self-hater!”
“Oh well.” (shrug)
This is a good question. Truthfully, I think they would be more butthurt towards women like you. In their minds, you wouldn’t even try! LOL!! With someone like me, they would blame me for any problems. Not that I give a crap!!
I agree with this. It’s like why wait for good black men, when there are good men of other races to date right in front of you?
Exactly!! And I figure since there’s more of them (white ones, asian ones, latin ones, middle eastern ones), I have a better shot!! That will more than make up for NOT dealing with the black ones.
It’s “too little, too late” when dealing with black men. I honestly don’t care what they think. They’re vocal as hell when the subject is black women, but silent as church mice about themselves. I’ll pass……
After reading the above comment alone and then going to Facebook to read the comment Steven made in context, it’s too little, too late. If he truly cared, he’d go to predominantely black men’s spaces online and make a call to action. Even if black men collectively start being better as men and hold themselves accountable for their actions, there is nothing that will ever make me want to be with them. Every woman I know in my life who is with a black man has a life full of drama. I’m actually indifferent toward them and repulsed by them at most.
It’s pretty interesting that people don’t want to do want to do anything for the better until it’s too late.
I actually have a female friend who is happily married to a black man who is a great father, and I’m happy for her.
I have nothing against black men, I just don’t give them any kind of special treatment as a collective. Like, why would I? For one thing, I already have a man. For another thing, I’m not partial to them. They’re all friend zone potential only, and I treat them like any other random men I meet – potential buddies, if they’re nice. If they seem like good guys, I might introduce them to single girlfriends. But I won’t be dating any. Taken!
I don’t understand women who would rather be single and wait for someone from one particular race of men. They’re weird.
Maybe it’s because I’m from SoCal and the black men here tend to treat black women like crap and worship the ground of nonblack women. Also, being in the crosshairs of harassment by them and not taking no for an answer. When I was younger I had an older friend, she’s a nice woman, but she’s an NBABM type. She told me to date black men from the East Coast. Don’t date the ones from SoCal. She didn’t know that I liked men of other races. I was 18 at the time.
As a black feminist, I find it hard to give a damn what anyone thinks of me anyway, but especially a man.
Still, it’s nice to see an honest one.
Steven has finally spoken to an important point I’ve been trying to tell you girls on this blog for awhile: WW won’t take bad treatment from their men, but BW will. WW rose up to “fight for change.” Why aren’t BW doing the same thing?
And I’ll admit that in the back of the mind of a WM dating a BW is the thought “would she leave me if a BM showed interest in her?” We know that BW feel BM are the ideal mate for them. We’re confused when we see the treatment BW get from BM, We just don’t understand why you take it so passively! If WM treated WM that way, there would only be one date. And she’s tell her girl friends about us and we’d be in a permanent dog house. That’s why we treat our women so well.
We white guys don’t really understand women in general, but at least WW act in a more or less predictable way. If we ask for a date, we don’t get our heads bitten off for asking. Most WW would let us down easily. White people, in general, will do just about anything to avoid “a scene.” We hate calling attention to ourselves. That’s probably why we find the “ghetto” attention getting act so repulsive.
It was advice columnist Anne Landers who said “No one can take advantage of you without your permission.” It all comes down to that.
Luv ya girls.
I think that’s what I respect about white and Asian women. They will find a way to hold their men accountable. White women will speak up if it helps other white women and Asian women will just jump ship to men of other races.
I think the younger generation of black women are starting to speak up and not hold back or jump ship. Everyday I am starting to see more black girl-nonblack guy couples online and off.
Yes. Isn’t that wonderful! It’s taken a long time, but it’s becoming more and more common. What a wonderful and accepting world we’ve become. But there’s more work to do. I want IR couples to be so accepted that no one even notices them.
I think the tide is beginning to turn Jay. I see more and more black women dating out then ever. The bad behavior is getting old and thanks to people like CK, Simone 56 and others the word that we don’t have to take it is getting around.
J and I went to the MD Rennfest last weekend and saw several black girls and women with non BM. It was nice seeing the age ranges stepping out.
It’s amazing!! I was out myself and saw one couple!! Ladies, it’s lifting off!!
I see the change here also.
I hear you, Jay. I’m pretty certain that the reason I haven’t dated many BM is because I’m simply not a woman who will put up with bad treatment. My beloved father always told us to never let anyone treat us with disrespect. That’s just how I was raised. So I will not suffer any of these fools, no matter their race. I’m not abrasive or mean, I’m usually very pleasant, but most can tell that I’m not the “one” to be messed with. And those that don’t? It’s a wrap & I’m done. So, I’ve found that I simply gravitate to WM, always have. Those that approach me have always done so respectfully & graciously, and we just seem to understand each other better. #TeamSwirl
I agree, most w/people do not want to make a public scene. I feel the same way but, sometimes things don’t turn out that way because some people will purposely push your buttons.
I do not believe most WM are thinking, “Would she leave me if a BM showed interest in her?”
Yes, many bw are still dating bm. You are not reading or not believing most bw on this site when they say we are not interested in dating bm. Also, can’t the same be said of wm? Right?
I have never made a bad scene with any white, Asian, Hispanic man who was trying to ask me out.
If anything I will go into shy mode. “Ohhh, no thank you and with a smile.”
Funny, today I was thinking that I see an increase in other women behaving with a “ghetto” or low class mentally. You should have been in my class last Saturday; I thought she was going to beat the teacher’s butt.
Love ‘Ya Jay
“Funny, today I was thinking that more ww are behaving with a “ghetto” or low class mentally.”
I believe that is the result of cRap “culture” and the spread of general ratchedness on social media. Somehow, that is seen as something to aspire to. It’s sad that the lowest common denominator is now seen as the “cool thing”.
Add the Kardashians to the mix. I see far too many women trying to emulate her dress and behavior.
And any show on the Bravo network. Housewives of X, Southern Charm (what a bunch of pampered childalts), the Yacht show and Bar show from one of the housewives.
Remember on The Happy Days” the most beloved character was “Fonzie,” the high school dropout. We Americans are a peculiar people: We like the “Lake Woebegone” ideal, where “all the children are above average,” yet we don’t want to be seen as too intelligent, or too educated, because then we lose our “one of the guys” character.
I was the opposite. I usually finished class assignments in 5 -10 minutes. Spent a good amount of time in the library next to the principal’s office doing cards and cards of 7 x 7 figure multiplication problems lol. I got so good that I could do 4 x4 digit in my head.
My “friends” referred to me as professor because I always won arguments by providing proofs. Too much for them to handle, I guess.
Yes. I was the class nerd, too. I’ve never understood why the dumb kid and bad boy were always a hit with the girls?
Maybe it’s prepubescent pheromones or they’re just popular by putting themselves in the spotlight.
Whatever their deal is I was surprised to find out that quite a few girls were interested in me. I had low esteem for a couple of reasons and was too wrapped up in myself to notice
Simplylois: when I said “most WM are thinking, “Would she leave me if a BM showed interest in her?” I excluded the women on this blog. You are unfortunately right, though, that many of the women who today act “Ghetto” are white. I think the trend comes from the women’s’ movement, where some feminists believe the “in your face” approach is the most direct.
I stopped caring what black men and the black community thought a long time ago. After I walked away from an abusive marriage to a black man my whole mindset changed. I refocused and regrouped. I started dating men from other races(White, Native American, Asian, Canadian, etc…). I found happiness and a kind of freedom that I hadn’t known with black men.
Today I am happily married to a Southern White gentleman and I couldn’t be happier. I am Loved, Cherished, Respected, and Protected.
My Sisters please stop prolonging your Happiness and neglecting your Safety waiting on feral black men. There are white men and other races of men who adore Black Women.
I like your sentiments Steven but it’s too late.
From my personal experience all I can say is that the BM that I work with have had no issues with me dating J. They often ask me how she is doing and say “Hi” when I see her. (she retired last year). They are all married to BW and are raising their families.
I guess that is what happens when relationships between people of different backgrounds develop over time.
Now, outside of work, I have had a few verbal incidents and plenty of sour looks from across the board. Mainly older people that aren’t forward thinking and some plain angry racist types. J did reach out and complain about a young BW that gave all kinda of snide looks and sighs as she was ringing up our groceries. She’s normally pretty easy going but you definitely don’t want to raise her hackles. She can be quite fierce 😉
As for the gentleman in question. I hope that he continues speaking out and takes his message to those that really need to hear it.
You wrote “White men used to be the worst offenders of this… until their women rose up collectively to fight for change.” And this is exactly why I refuse to blame feminism for every wrong in society because having studied law, I know that feminism, not patriarchy, is the reason women in the West have many privileges (right to vote, right to alimony & matrimonial property, right to certain protections after being assaulted etc.).
Having said that, I follow celebrity news from my country & notice how no one complains when male celebrities date women from other African countries or other races but let a female celebrity do that & people just can’t stop criticizing! I appreciate this gentleman for his honesty.
His honesty is good, I must admit. But you notice he’s telling it to the women and NOT the men!! They would cuss his butt out!!
Wow that was smart reading, I totally missed that Phyllis!
This is one of the main reasons I am completely divesting: if this rascal really wanted relationships between bm and bw to change knowing the truth as he does, he would tell the truth and fight for said truth to the MEN!! They don’t think they should change!
Phyllis Pierce you are not aware of this but a black woman asked (Why do black men think it’s ok for them to swirl and not black women). That was my answer to her question. The founder of the website Beyond Black and White was so impressed with my upfront honestly she told me that she will make it a feature article on her website and i said cool.
Now you don’t know me but please be advised that I have said this to dozens of black men in their face and probably hundreds online in a much harsher fashion. I have absolutely no fear of any man so let’s get that straight.
I have no problem speaking my mind to anyone. I’m not sure why you just assumed that I have never said this to black men before. I also did not say this to win the approval of a bunch of black woman who no longer or never have care for black men. I couldn’t care less because I have my queen. But i do care about our community and our people and that includes you. My goal was to answer an honest question with an honest answer and I’ve done that. With that said I wish all you black women the best and nothing but happiness no matter what race your spouse is. God Bless you.
it is good to have you around Steven showing your support.
Good morning. At the end of the day, it is neither here nor there to me as to why black men think the way they do. I said your honesty was good, but it’s what you’re supposed to do. I will not go back and forth with you, but I don’t think you support what we as black women are trying to do here. Not when you go on the Facebook page and quote the statistics for marriages between black folks. So, thank you for answering that woman’s question. Thank you for your truth as you see it. But I’m not buying it.
He also posted interracial stats about the longevity of black woman/white man couples too. He has a bias (for black couples), sure, but he is as objective and honest as any black man will ever get on this issue.
And so what if he’s objective and honest about it. I will admit that’s it’s nice to know that at least one brother gets it. But at this point, for me it doesn’t help me achieve what I’m here for: getting to know and develop relationships with men of other races to better my chances of finding love. A black man’s opinion cannot help me do that.
Fair enough.
ugh you need to let that hurt go. Nothing that he said requires as much energy and vitriol you’re spewing. You simply sound mad for some strange reason.
No vitriol was intended. But I guess I was supposed to just let him address me and say nothing like a good little mammy. Sorry, wrong girl.
Steven, I understand your response and want to say that although most bw on this site know that, thank you anyway.
thanks for clearing this up Steve. I deleted my comment below. keep up the good work
I agree with you. Feminism has given us more privileges than what women in some countries can only dream of. It’s only just now Saudi women are allowed to drive. I tell people “yes, I am a feminist”. I may not agree with everything mainstream feminists say or believe, but I believe in choice.
Look at images and stories from middle eastern countries in the 70’s.
Completely different attitude before the Shaw of Iran was deposed and the Shia’s came into power. Their brand of Islam spread and returned to reducing rights as written in the Koran.
It’s a shame to see so many attractive women reduced to covering themselves because men supposedly cannot control themselves.
There’s a long, ugly history behind the Shah, BWC. Basically, he was a brutal dictator who came to power with our support in a military coup against a democratically elected government. Our own government supported him throughout his reign, even giving him sanctuary when the Islamists held their revolution.
From that perspective, it seems pretty clear why so many middle eastern Muslims are against the U.S. They, unlike some of us here in the America, have a very long memory.
This is too true. We tend to uphold some miscreants in the “name” of foreign policy. There’s been so much corruption that sometimes it’s difficult being a “proud” American. And the more uneducated we become the prouder we become. Life long skeptic and voracious information gatherer here. Finding this site is an example of this trait 😉
I have seen some photos from the 60’s and 70’s where women in middle eastern countries dressed similarly to European and American women and had access to formal schooling. Heck, even their traditional clothing was more beautiful than the forced burkas and other garb.
I know some women proudly wear hajibs and other clothing and, if that is their preference, so be it but a lot do not even have a choice.
Indeed. A much more recent example is Iraq before and after our invasion. In spite of Saddam’s political tyranny, the women there had relatively equal standing socially with the men. Gov paid education and health care, even free electricity, as I understand it. Just don’t go against Saddam seemed the be the main rule.
Thank for this Neb. To me also feminism just means equal right & opportunities for women period. All humans deserve equal rights & opportunities regardless of age, race,gender or class. Whatever excesses some women have brought to feminism is just that. I watched the Handmaid’s Tale based on actual laws that existed in times past before feminism & I wouldn’t want to live in such a world!
I love that show. I also watched the original movie and I’m going to read the novel. The tv series is so good that I binge watched it twice. Can’t wait for season 2.
I absolutely LOVE Handmaid’s Tale and can’t wait for season 2.
Unfortunately, many aspects of the Handmaid’s Tale do exist.
Indeed
Many of those woman had their Dads and male relatives to backed them up.
Just like civil rights…it took men to make sure women were given those rights.
Wow really? Please tell me more. I still have a lot to learn on that topic
well men took the rights away in the first place, soooo I should hope that they got on board with giving them back…
Civil rights in the U.S…
for the most part women didn’t have any rights to take away because women were considered property of their husbands or a male relative was in charge of the family.
All I am saying is there were/are men who believe women should have equal rights just like men.
There is no biological basis for an adult to be considered the property of another adult; thus there was no basis (other than tradition) to deny women access to the new institutions and legal systems (property ownership, etc) that the young U.S. government was setting up back in the day. Basically women were treated like glorified children, which is indeed a deprivation, and taking something away from women. I agree with the last sentence though.
Girl, you know cotton picking well what I meant.
Women did not have rights in the beginning stages of this country. And, yes it did take MEN to help us acquire those rights. All men are not bad:) Peace
Um, Is that supposed to be for me? I’m not disputing the role of men in restoring women’s rights; and I never said that all men are bad!???
“I’ve learned that people will for get what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel”
-Maya Angelou-
I heard that quote somewhere, but I don’t know if it was online or off. It applies because what black women are dealing with is psychological and emotional. This guy means well, but instead of taking his message to the men who need to hear it, he’s going into a black woman’s platform gaslighting and making it about him. He pulled up the stat about majority of black women being married to black men when a woman on Facebook comments told him black women are moving on. However, he did not mention that a large percentage of those marriages are unstable with one of the highest divorce rates.
This guy is not an ally at all. It didn’t work out with his culturally self-absorbed Beckie, so he’s just pushing for #blacklove just as a backup plan by going after black women who are not interested. I know this tactic, because when a guy I was dating broke it off with me, here comes creepy Tyrone trying to date me, mixed kid in tow and all.
And one more thing: not only is he telling this to women, he’s telling it to women who don’t want black men anymore!! I’m sure there’s enough NBABM women who would love to hear this!! Give those ladies some hope. We’re out!!!!
We’re out!!!!
Some of us were never really in. LOL
Sir, please, pretty please with sugar on top, go speak with black men regarding your ‘concerns’, this is not the space for you.
Nice to see you back. Been missing your insights on the various topics of the day. 🙂
Business is busy, which is good but means time to hang out isn’t what it use to be, I’ll be checking in though, I kinda miss being annoying. LOL
Business busy = successful, which is a good thing. You’re never annoying…at least not to me.
I am not gonna give you fuel for your fire but I just read some of your comments and it’s just a wow! LOL