Black Male Unemployment and High School Graduate Rates are Worse Than the Statistics Say

Black Male Unemployment and High School Graduate Rates are Worse Than the Statistics Say

Everyone already knew that things were bad for black men–the high unemployment rates, the low high school graduation rates, etc., but it turns out things are probably even worse than you thought. Becky Pettit, a professor of sociology at the University of Washington, has written a new book, titled Invisible Men: Mass Incarceration and the Myth of Black Progress, which lifts the veil on the myth of black progress.

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Everyone already knew that things were bad for black men–the high unemployment rates, the low high school graduation rates, etc., but it turns out things are probably even worse than you thought. Becky Pettit, a professor of sociology at the University of Washington, has written a new book, titled Invisible Men: Mass Incarceration and the Myth of Black Progress, which lifts the veil on the myth of black progress.

In a conference call with reporters, Pettit said that society had “developed a distorted idea” of how young black men are faring. The distortion began in the mid-70s when the number of prison inmates began to snowball. Data used to determine the unemployment rate and the employment to population ration reported by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics are based on a survey of households; the survey does not consider people who are inmates of institutions, such as prisons or mental health facilities. Because black men are over-represented in the prison population as compared to their proportion in the general population, this dramatically skews the veracity of the claims government surveys make about the progress of American blacks.

According to Pettit’s calculations, the Bureau of Labor Statistics underestimate racial inequality in the high school dropout rate by 75 percent; overstate the employment rate of young, black male dropouts as 42 percent, while the employment rate is 26 percent when inmates are included; overestimated overall black voter turnout by 13 percent and turnout among young, black male dropouts by 64.2 percent.

“By systematically excluding inmates and former inmates from key data, we’ve clouded our understanding of the American political, economic and social condition,” says Pettit. “I hope that by bringing the mass of incarcerated people into public view, the book will give the public, social scientists and policymakers a more complete picture of our contemporary reality—and influence public policy debates accordingly.”

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Jamila Akil is a senior editor at Beyond Black and White. Follow her on Twitter @jamilaakil or email her at jamilathewriter-at-gmail-dot-com.

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ironcowboy 324 pts

Some time back Attorney General Eric Holder commented that Americas are cowards in regard to discussing racial issues.  I agree with that statement in general; however, not for the reasons he arrived at that destination. The tragedy is that (we) are cowards because the people who say we are cowards bash the lips off the faces of the people who dare to speak out about the problems facing the black community, proverbially speaking, particularly where black men and incarnation is concerned. 

 

I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard people say something along the lines of  this: “You’re not qualified to have an opinion on black men and incarnation, because you aren’t a black man, and you’ve never been incarcerated, and so you don’t know what it’s like.. So sit down and shut up!”   Ok… I’ll sit down and shut up…. To me this creates a negative reinforcing cycle of desperation and perpetual victimhood that is used for political purposes by those very people who say I’m the coward… and this is the true shame and tragedy.

 

Yes, they are right, I have no clue what it’s really like to be black, and in jail; but that contrasts the opposite idea, that black man has no idea what it’s like to be white and free.  I could be in jail… but I’m not… and it’s been no accident why this is the case! (Hold the fire)  I feel that many of the people shouting down the discussion on race have deep rooted agendas to keep black men in chains, which is really sad; their relevance in society (the talking mouth-pieces), completely disappears if the black man is saved!  Once they save the black man, their services are no longer needed so to speak.  And that situation is hard on the not-for-profit’s income statement and cash flow report!   They need men in chains… so as to justify the constant arguments, and fundraising drives on how to solve the dilemma… but without ever actually solving the dilemma.

 

Over or under representation of a demographic group in prison is really an irrelevant argument.  If a particular demographic group is engaging in much higher rates of anti-social behavior, you can statically expect to see that group make up a larger share of the population of inmates.  The answer is not to free violent men from prison just because… regardless of skin color, but to come to terms with why people choose to behave the way they do, and how exactly does that behavior results in success, or failure in life.

 

Q: How did my Mexican gardener in California, arrive in America as a child, with only the clothes on his back… having been towed by his parents 200 miles through the freezing desert at night, the scorching desert in the day time, and build a million dollar landscaping business over the course of his lifetime?  Yet, Jamal cannot (or will not) escape Chicago, LA, or NYC… and never does he aspire, or dare to dream to be anything better than a part time worker at a hot dog stand?

 

I know, I know this big is a generalization… But I see this happen over and over and over again… and I keep being told to sit down and shut up by people like Eric Holder for merely noticing the correlations and asking why… and common ordinary guys like me, are beginning to reach our limits with this insanity… made to feel ashamed that a back kid in Chicago shoots three children in the face over $20 dollars in drugs… made to feel (by the talking mouth pieces) that I’m the WHOLE reason Jamal pulled the trigger.

 

And I just want to scream out at the top of my lungs, God Dammit Jamal, put down the fuc%ing handgun, follow my lead, or my former Mexican gardeners lead, and build yourself a better life! You can do it… no one else will do it for you… I will gladly show you how, but I guarantee it will not be easy! I can understand why so many black women are fed up with this too, and are now choosing to leave their race for dating and marriage prospects in ever larger numbers.

 

OK, I feel better now, and I’m not a coward for saying it… regardless of the fire I take!  

zipporah 1730 pts

Immigrants like the latino  landscaper APPRECIATE THIS COUNTRY--and many have FATHERS or at least GRANDFATHERS with them most of their lives--the Catholic Church treats marriage as a sacrament and dont believe in Birth Control, etc. Therefore, the men (in general but not always,) will follow suit and raise Paco to be a man--OTOH, many blacks today dont have a strong FATHER figure--NOT JUST MALE!!----males, even 'peter pan' males are confusing to boys

VictoriaAntoine 436 pts

( disclaimer :my comment will be delete soon) I don't want to be mean about but I don't give a big F about black men being unemployment, going to jail or being in the street. its sadden me to see that way but my main focus is myself and education. if anyone including black men who want to join me the education train feel free to do so if no F you and your DRP( down right problem)

luckystar428 208 pts

 VictoriaAntoine

 Exactly. Life comes with enough challenges as it is. I don't have time to "put on a cape" and "save the day" for grown men. They have to want to do better for themselves.

Maxine 1005 pts

I was thinking about these abysmal graduation rates a couple of weeks ago when the Chicago teachers' strike went down.  I knew the numbers were bad but when that story broke, I learned they were worse than I thought.  I don't know what more proof we need that when men abandon their families/communities, the effects are devastating.

AleeL 440 pts

This may sound mean, but I couldn't care less about how the whole of black men in America is faring. That s not my issue and not my burden. My black male relatives are doing great financially because they've always understood the importance of education and being serious about career advancement. And that's all I'm concerned about.

SirLoinDeBeef 2527 pts

 AleeL Co-sign, from the viewpoint of my long-term marriage to my lovely AA lady-wife!

Statuesque 1749 pts

It's one thing to say that we don't have an understanding of how dire the situation is for this segment of African Americans and another to say that there is a lack of understanding that their situation is dire.  I don't agree that people don't know the situation is bad for them.  It's discussed a lot, to the point that the functional situation in the majority of the same population is hardly ever discussed.

 

I won't say that I'm not sympathetic anymore but I am so tired of these pathologies sucking the air out of the room.  The way I see it, life will never be fair, and discrimination is a sad reality of life for lots of people, but I look around at the Black men I know who work every day and keep striving to better themselves, and I can't make too many excuses for those who can't at least try to do the same.  There are too many excuses about why these men refuse to be productive members of society. Yes, multi-gen poverty, draconian drug laws and bad policing are huge issues, but are they bigger than the obstacles that ex-slaves had to overcome?  The difference to me are the justifications for bad behavior.

Brenda55 19699 pts moderator

 Statuesque 

" It's discussed a lot, to the point that the functional situation in the majority of the same population is hardly ever discussed."

 

"I won't say that I'm not sympathetic anymore but I am so tired of these pathologies sucking the air out of the room."

 

^^^^^This^^^^^

 

 

"There are too many excuses about why these men refuse to be productive members of society."

Personal responsibility being at the top of the list but you are not suppose to discuss that.

 

SirLoinDeBeef 2527 pts

 Brenda55  Statuesque Back a while ago, JayfromPhilly, based on his first-hand experience as a corrections officer, had said that virtually every jailed male person was STILL making the usual, tired excuses ... victim ... the 'man's' fault ... innocent ... set up by 'the cops' ... shoulda been given a break ... etc.

DWB 7646 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef I USED to totally agree with you, but now I'm a little different. I STILL believe that most are guilty, but now I have a little less faith in the system. I used to believe that about 2% were innocent, now that figure is more like 10%. We have a legal system, not a JUSTICE system.

MixedUpInVegas 1654 pts

 Statuesque

 Amen, Statuesque!!!  The more attention that is focused on the dysfunctional elements in the Black community, the more it takes away from others who are following the rules and succeeding.  If that's all people hear about the BC, it tarnishes the rest of use who are NOT criminals, drug dealers, pimps and general low lifes unfairly.  I'm weary of hearing about these people.  I'm not one of them.  I don't want to be associated with them.  I am a good citizen who works hard, pays my taxes, keeps up my property and doesn't need anyone's understanding, pity or help.

 

Please don't ask me to be upset about criminals who have been brought to justice, regardless of their color.  The fact that they are incarcerated is probably saving someone's life or property.  No, I don't feel anything for them.  No I'm not interested in hearing about them.

 

This is not to say that some people have not had a fair shake and may be innocent.  Call the Innocence Project.  I have sat on enough juries over the years to know that most of them are guilty as homemade sin (I just got back from jury duty today, can you tell??)

 

Please stop whining for the undeserving . . . cry for the true victims.

CaribCanadian 89 pts

 Statuesque  What do they want us to do? Create a Hug-a-Thug fest?

Enough coddling already! 

I feel part of the problem nowadays is that men, especially black men, have become weak and don't take pride in having a decent job and supporting his family. They will gladly have their woman or mother take care of them and have no shame about it.

Jamila 7286 pts moderator

Black men that manage to avoid become sucked into the prison system and graduate from high school (and college) do quite well for themselves. 

 

On average, black men actually earn more money than black women.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/files/2012/09/paygap_by_race.jpg

Karla 18246 pts

So, according to her title, BM represent the whole of Black "progress".  It fits with the common thought of who's considered most important in the BC.

Brenda55 19699 pts moderator

 Karla 

You make a very good point Karla.

If this had been a book about pathology among black women then there would be a hew and cry about othering and why are black women being studied and dissected yet again. etc,etc.

The point being to shut the discussion down and push it to the background.

 

On the other hand black male pathology books get a much different reception with the expectation that national policy has to change to improve their out come.

The likely hood that there will ever be a national referendum specifically for such a small subset of the population is not likely to happen. I will explain my point below.

 

Most black men to varying degrees are doing just fine. Black men may feel that they are not where they should be in the scheme of things when compared to other men and only black men can change that, but the fact is most black men are gainfully employed, law abiding and sober.

 

What we must remember that the black underclass....which is the demographic where many of the men the author is talking about comes from is 25% of the black population. The total Black population in the US stands at 12% which is about 40 million people. Again 25% of that number are in the underclass and of that number about half will be males.

 

Under class black men are not the only group of poor men who are struggling. Poor men of all races are having similar challenges. Think of native American men and poor whites and Latinos who are equally invisible and who are not likely to have a whole lot of care and concern about the lot of a subset of black men who are doing every bit as badly as they are.

 

So while tis academic work may be illuminating and clarifies a situation it will gather dust as most such works do when it comes to being translated into actual policy changes. It falls into the category of an interesting read.

 

 

 

Jamila 7286 pts moderator

 Karla I don't believe it was her intent to imply that black men represent the whole of black progress. Black men are roughly half of "black people," so when black men aren't doing  so well it skews statistics on black people as a whole. 

Law Wanxi 5812 pts

Good job, Jamila. I knew you'd do well with it.

 

 

Skayi 514 pts

"It takes a village to raise a child." - When I was a little girl in Kenya I couldn't even dream of skipping school, if i met a neighbor, they would whoop my ass. That right there is community taking care of each other. But on the same note, people need to start learning responsibility, no one can piggy back some of these black men. They need to fight for themselves.

AJ2011 2310 pts

 Skayi They used to do that here. Well the neighbors couldn't hit you, like in my mom's day, but they were given authority to question you and their word was as good as a teacher's.

LionMama 293 pts

Well, just another reason to date a white guy..

zipporah 1730 pts

@LionMama Pretty sad--aint it? I'm glad she brought this up--maybe something could be done about it

LionMama 293 pts

 zipporah  LionMama Sad, but not my problem if they can't stay in school or stay out of jail. I'm not underclass anymore and my boys have never been..

Joyce345 1738 pts

 LionMama 

 

"Well, just another reason to date a white guy.."

 

Not just date a white guy, but stay away from 'black' areas because male unemployment  and incarceration leads to more crime.