How Blackistan Deals with ‘Fast Girls’

How Blackistan Deals with ‘Fast Girls’

Icon Oprah Winfrey was raped by her 19 year old cousin at the age of nine and later abused by a neighbor and an uncle. Renowned author Maya Angelou was raped at seven by her mother’s husband and spent the next five years as a mute. In the midst of having to fight off everyone laying claim to her young body, here comes the females of blackistan who tell her she is at fault for what is happening to her. She is whooped , cussed out and blamed for the black males around her who exercise no self-control. If she is develops faster than the other girls around her, she becomes a prime target for harassment and blame.

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“She was probably fast anyway.”

Blackistan’s justification of the abuse, rape and sexual harassment of young girls and women.

“All my life I had to fight. I had to fight my daddy. I had to fight my brothers. I had to fight my cousins and my uncles. A girl child ain’t safe in a family of men”.  -  Sofia, The Color Purple

“She was probably fast anyway.” – A blackistani woman’s response to an 11 year old girl being gang raped by 17 men.

Recently a colleague posed the question on her blog asking if young girls are to blame for being touched inappropriately. The conversation she had with a co-worker served as the inspiration. They were discussing swimming and her co-worker mentioned how young boys would try to pull down the girls bathing suits in the pool which caused her to shy away from swimming. Overhearing the conversation, a third co-worker asked why she did not tell someone and she responded that her grandmother would have “beaten her butt” for somehow causing those boys to act that way.

As I read this, I was reminded how mothers, aunts, grandmothers, etc. when I was that age would react to  young girls who experienced similar situations. The boys were never hauled into the presence of parents, teachers, or other adult relatives and straightened out. The girls were hit upside the head or across the backside and repeatedly reprimanded for “acting fast” or having a “hot tail”. This often left the girls confused and bewildered and afraid to share any future harassment with anyone. I am fortunate that my mother never subjected me to that,  but when I was in school and boys would try to grab my rear end, between my legs, or my breasts. Upon complaining to a teacher or adult, the boys would absolve themselves of  any wrong doing by saying “I was just playing” and upon seeing no bruises or bloodshed, the teachers would write it off as “boys will be boys”.

Like Sofia it seems that black girls have to come out the womb fighting, which may explain why many have an angry, combative, defensive attitude by the time they are 18 years old (but that is for another discussion) and frankly I can understand why. Starting as early as the age of 7 or 8 they are prime candidates for sexual harassment, you heard me, SEXUAL HARASSMENT.  Entitled young black boys  grabbing their backsides, between their legs, speaking sexual things, adult men coming on to them  and worse! God forbid should some of these girls resist what is being done to them, then they are in danger of being beaten up for refusing the advances being leveled at them.

Icon Oprah Winfrey was raped by her  19 year old cousin at the age of nine and later abused by a neighbor and an uncle. Renowned author Maya Angelou was raped at seven by her mother’s husband and spent the next five years as a mute. In the midst of having to fight off everyone laying claim to her young body, here comes the females of blackistan who tell her she is at fault for what is happening to her. She is whooped , cussed out and blamed for the black males around her who exercise no self-control.   If she is develops faster than the other girls around her, she becomes a prime target for harassment and blame.

“……thinking back on my experiences as a child, developing before a lot of other girls my age, getting asked questions like “can I thump your titty and see if it gets hard?” by boys when I was in 5th grade, not quite knowing what was appropriate and what was not because it wasn’t really seen as an issue……”  N.J.

“Not seen as an issue”, and therein lies part of the problem and why  so many young black girls continue to be subjected to such horrible behavior by boys and adult men. Because what is happening to them is not taken seriously, it still goes on today. I wonder how many adult women continue to suffer in silence trying to deal with their pain in self destructive ways because of what happened to them as young girls? I know one woman who who battled a drug problem for years trying to forget  the 4  brutal rapes she endured as a young woman. I read about a rape counselor who deliberately put on 100 pounds after being sexually assaulted so that men would not bother her. Some women take on a more masculine persona and toughen up to deal with the violation of their womanhood. These coping mechanisms never bring the healing that these young girls and women need, it is like putting a band-aid on cancer.

The thing I find most disturbing when it comes to the sexual harassment and abuse of young girls are the adults who accuse these children of being “temptresses”.  They hold children accountable for  adult behavior. Really? Even if an 8 year old child parades around in front of a grown man in her underwear, any adult male should have the common sense to recognize this is a CHILD and treat her accordingly! But people who do not want to deal with the truth find it easier to blame the one who cannot adequately defend themselves.

“…if a girl were to say a boy/man did something to her, she would be blamed for being fast, especially if she was pretty. I made a comment about 5 years ago at a family get together about an old family being a pervert and everyone looked at me like I was an alien. so I decided to let it all out and brought up comments that he’d made about several of the girls in the family. My cousins (4 female) all agreed that he’d said these things, but you couldn’t beat the older women and men in denying that they allowed their children to be exposed to and preyed upon by a pervert. Several men stormed off in a huff and the women were saying that we were lying. This all happened in my early teens and this man would have been about 50-ish at the time. Needless to say, i did find out that day that he’d actually tried to molest one of the younger cousin’s. Since she is a junkie now, her word was garbage to them. I believe though that even if she was the most upstanding person there was, they still would not have believed her.” L.F.N

One of my sisters was raped at knifepoint at 7 years old. Did not tell till much later, our Mom (now dead), *might* have blamed her, girls usually got blamed for being raped “she’s fast” or “she’s got a hot tail” etc. She is now dead much too young, angry most of her life, made poor choices. My favorite sister, too. Died five years ago she never go over it. So when I see very angry BW, loud, spazzing,etc. I do have empathy as I imagine they have been touched…She was an older sister. Back in the day kids used to be able to play kickball in the ally behind their house. An older man watched and dragged her to a basement at knifepoint and said he would kill us all if she told. Blackistan. Not long afterward we moved to a mixed neighborhood. -B.B.

“BB’s” family may have moved to a better neighborhood while they were still kids but the damage had been done her older sister died not knowing her worth.

I find it repulsive that some of the biggest “agents”  that ensure this “Matrix” of destruction against black women and girls continues are Blackistani women. With all the screaming and yelling they do about how black women are treated yet they are the biggest enablers hiding behind religion on the front pew of the church and sistah solidering to protect the predators and throw black women and girls under the bus.

When one of my child rapists was shot and killed by DC police officers in a shootout, I rejoiced vocally.  When I did, my mother slapped me hard in the face and told me how cruel I was to rejoice in his death.  I didn’t flinch nor did I recant the joyous news that he was shot down like the rabid dog he was.  That’s just one of the times my mother hit me when I told her I was molested and how justice had been served.

I don’t have proof (yet) but I believe my mother was raped as a child by relatives.  However, that generations will NEVER admit the horrors of such abuse.  I will not allow my abuses to go unpublished.  As I say, “We Own Our Image!”…In 2000, I called my mother to my home and confronted her.  I knew wasn’t angry nor was I expecting acknowledgement.  I just wanted to tell her I forgave her because I was at peace.  She sat there blank-faced and after an hour, got up and walked out without saying a word.  Nonetheless, my spirit was freed that day.- Clarissa

Clarissa brought up a very interesting point, she suspects the reason why her mother responded to her rape with indifference is because she was the victim of rape herself as a child and I suspect that many blackistani women have also been victims of sexual abuse and/or harassment at the hands of blackistani men, but you would think they would want to break the cycle instead of keeping it alive. In some sick way do they see it as a way to make these girls  “Strong”? Do they see it as “well I got through it and so will you?” Sadly they seem to want to keep other black women/girls entangled in this web of destruction and the threads they use  to keep the web nice and strong is betrayal and denial. Betrayal in the form of leaving young girls and women vulnerable to predators by protecting the criminals and denial in the form of refusing to believe or hear the voices of the victims, their own children or other black girls.

Some of our mothers (women of that time) would rather go to their graves in denial than face the reality of what has happened to them and what they allowed to happen to their own daughters.  It is shameful and a mindset.  How can a girl be asking for it at age 12? -SwirlQueen

The stories are endless that I have heard or seen go on and on from little girls being molested to college girls being surrounded by black men and their bathing suits being ripped off their bodies and they are raped or almost raped by these animals. Sadly it will continue until someone breaks the cycle.

Breaking the cycle means sending rapists to jail or juvenille hall and not covering up their crimes because you don’t want to see another black man go to jail, that protection is reserved for innocent men! Breaking the cycle also means listening to and believing the young women when they speak up about how their bodies have been violated  and it does not matter if the assailant is a fellow 5th grader or a grown man and BELIEVING them. Breaking the cycle also means that black women have to stop thinking it’s cute or encouraging  their daughters to act out sexually, to stop having children out of wedlock and to stop bringing strange men into their homes around their daughters!

….in 2012 BG are sexualized by their parent(s)! Sexy fake hair sexy clothes sexy dances sexy tv shows sex sex sex booty popping. No girlhood. men in and out the house, men babysitting we know how molesters target Black communities (and Africa!!), to me its worse than it was before cause these dumb single mothers are too trusting with grown men around their kids, no daddy around, no granddaddy. Dire. – B.B.

And finally breaking the cycle  means helping young girls and women HEAL  through counseling, support, positive reinforcement, and assuring them that they are not “fast” or have a “hot tail” because they are or are becoming what God created them to be, WOMEN.  I know there are young girls out there who are promiscuous, we all knew at least one girl who was “popular” with the boys in school and even with her I question what happened to her to cause her to use her body to gain acceptance with the opposite sex. Most girls however are innocent victims of the  “fast girl” witch hunt in blackistan and  they have the right to become beautiful, healthy and whole women without being violated and trampled upon in the process.

No matter what, DO NOT allow predator protectionist friends, relatives, co-workers, etc to negotiate our silence. Let me say that again: Keeping silent about abuse is NOT an option!-BWDB

If a girl is going to be “fast”, then let it be fast to speak up!

 

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thecrazyartist 2423 pts

The scary part is the sheer volume of black men that think it is OK to publicly harass black women,  Just today some creep in the mall thought it was OK to follow me from one end to the other, make lewd comments about my backside and pester me to talk to him.  This ",man" must have been at least 50 years old, ugly as hell reeked of BO, and was acting like an out of control junior high student.  I wasn't made up or dressed up, I was wearing a hoodie and baggy jeans, my hair was a mess and in a ponytail and I STILL GOT HARASSED EVEN THOUGH I LOOKED LIKE CRAP.  The outright scary part is not one person stepped in(this was a mixed area and most of the other patrons were white or hispanic) and helped until I picked up my pace and made it clear I wanted him out of the way.  I am so happy my father left me a new taser when he visited this weekend, I was about ready to unleash 500,000 volts in this mofos ass if he didn't back down.

 

This person thought that because I have indentifiable black features it was just fine and dandy to harass me, this same pig didn't dare do this to any of the native american, white or latina girls.   I have dealt with this since I was 15, needless to say I am quite the stone cold bitch if approached the wrong way.  This SOB felt I was OBLIGATED to pay attention to his ass just because I am part black(yes he even pulled the good hair light skin come on).  It wasn't until I started to walk faster that a 6'3 white bald off duty cop went in on his ass.

 

GOOD GRIEF, I am sorry but I needed to vent, most black men do not respect black women, even if you are mixed, THEY DO NOT GIVE A RATS ABOUT YOU REGARDLESS OF COLOR.  This is why I don't mess with black men outside of my father, a cousin and a classmate(who is Carlton Banks reborn).  Had he touched me he would have pulled the "fast girl"

MySmile 4298 pts

 thecrazyartist Ugh! I'm so sorry that happened to you and I hate how often this happens to black females because of the ultra familiarity thing... I need a tazer too!! I've had similar things happen to me..they always happen to be the nastiest, dirtiest, most disgusting looking old geezers too :-(

 

and LMAO at "Carlton Banks Reborn"...now that song is in my head...It's not unusual.... :-)

 

The few black males that I will actually hang out with (not just associate with them through work or facebook or something) are usually somewhat nerdy or awkward lol (not full on carlton banks, but still)..but even some of them are being influenced by the DBR black males (again, the ultra familiarity thing...DBR black males feel other black men are their "brothers") so therefore I limit my time with them or choose not to be around when they hang with DBRs. No thanks!

simplytoyin 70 pts

 MySmile  thecrazyartist Sorry this happened to you. Pure madness, thank goodness you got away. Who knows how it'd have turned out in a different environment. Mysmile you are right! The over familiar thing kills me. I'm also quite cold and have a stare to freeze hell when approached in a manner that makes me feel unsafe. Not to say preys are not usually involved in the gaining of trust first etc. But, that guy at the mall felt like it was his birthright to gain access to a black (or part black) woman because he can and you should have been grateful for his sick interest in you. DUMMY. 

Spr24 25 pts

My mother was molested as a toddler by a trusted family friend or family member. She won't go into detail. She allowed me to be molested right in front of her face. She also allowed some of her ex boyfriends to touch me in inappropriate places. And oh yeah the experimenting with other children was a give. My little 6 year old cousin visited one day and wanted to be around my mother and her husband. Can you believe she actually felt threatened by the child saying and i quote "she may be little but she know what she doing." I told her don't you dare blame that baby. I warned her from day one that that man she married was a pervert. Staring inappropriately at my 15 year opd body from day one but she didn't take it seriously and excused him. My cousin was sexually abused by my aunts boyfriend too. Not only that but our uncle as well. Everyone would just shrug it off and wonder why she was turning into an out of control teen. They would rather just consider her fast than make the men take responsibility for their actions.

Spr24 25 pts

Might i add my aunts boyfriend also tried to pull it with me when my cousin called the police on him. My aunt actually could care less what happened which made me too scared to press any charges. I was 13 then. I have yet to meet a black woman where I'm from who hasn't been sexually assaulted or sexually harrassed in some shape or form. As a matter of fact it is seen as the norm and you're an alien who's "acting white" if you don't accept it with open arms. I moved out of blackistan a while ago but their are still thugs around my living area who harass me when given the chance. I've been spat at for walking near them(whom i usually avoid like the plague) and called a bitch just for walking down the street and minding my own buisness. But my father would kill me for bringing anything home but a black man. As a matter of fact he would rather i get knocked up by one of those cretins than date outside of my race.

thecrazyartist 2423 pts

 Spr24

 That is truly pathetic, you might have to cut out contact family members if you want  to be truly free of this poisonus mindset.  I cut off several family members this past year and I am a much happier person(it's amazing how skype allows people to harass you from 2000 miles away).

MZ Elf 2746 pts

I was a victim of this. My father(my mom would have never co-signed this btw) had the nerve to attempt to exempt himself from the destruction and pain he caused me by painting me in the "fast" girl light. I guess by telling my ex-husband that I was abandoned as a young girl due to being fast and "smelling myself", he some how could avoid responsibility. I believe he had/has more loyalty to my ex than his own daughter...even today. Sick and twisted. Blackistan and it's citizens can kiss my arse! I.AM.DONE!

Deborrah 199 pts

Yup, I covered that mentality in great detail in the book THE BLACK CHURCH - WHERE WOMEN PRAY AND MEN PREY. Because church, religion and the bible is at the core of how black men feel about black women, about women and sex, about women's "purity" and about women being and girls being responsible for men's lust and the resultant sexual assaults and molestations. Find out more on the book at www.womenpraymenprey.com

My latest conversation: Black Pastors, Black Churches, Black Women and Barack Obama

starzzzy 475 pts

This article is interesting especially when we talk about fast developing girls. My niece who is 11 is one of those kids who looks all of 14 all the time. She has hips and all of that. Luckily my mom developed the same way so she is very serious about teaching my niece what is okay and what is not. What gets on my last nerve is grown people CONSTANTLY telling my niece "OHHH girl your butt is so big! OHH girl you look so grown"! Are you kidding me? Now if she does something, then she's being fast! Yet, it's okay to constantly highlight her body parts and not her as a person! It goes farther than how we treat girls who are sexually abused, it's even the messages we give them about their bodies in the first place.

DU2 2440 pts

 starzzzy  I agree these girls innocence is hijacked so quickly! They are made aware of their bodies and sexual things way too soon!

JannaAshley 585 pts

 starzzzy 

 

I HATE that. Why do people feel the need to comment out loud about someone's body? And in this way it's so hypocritical - praise the fact that the girl's body is developing into that of a woman's, but don't let some boy/man show some interest because then it's the fault of her "fast behind." Especially with the older people in my family, they feel the need to comment on your appearance, good or bad, no matter the situation or who is around. That made me very self-conscious as a kid because I always struggled with self-esteem issues due to weight.

 

I just wish more people had insight into the affects their words can have, especially on impressionable children. I don't know if it's a cultural thing, but my cousin's husband is from the Bahamas, and even when my daughter was a baby he'd call her  'sexy lady' or 'sexy mama.' WHY? I don't have any feelings that he's a predator (either way, I won't be leaving my kid around him), but why even say that? I think he sees things in a very gender-stereotypical way - like he'd freak out if he saw his son pushing my daughter's baby stroller or playing with her "girly toys" - and he likes to point out that my daughter is 'pretty' and his son is his 'strong guy.'

I am not setting my daughter up to think her only value in life will be based on superficial values, such as sexiness or physical beauty. That's why I make sure to praise her on other things besides her cuteness.

JannaAshley 585 pts

 starzzzy 

 

And I just remembered how my friend always wants to talk about my daughter's butt. She says she has a "donk" which is so beyond ridiculous - my daughter is 3! My daughter is the correct size for her age, but my friend's son has always been too skinny. I don't understand trying to equate the shape of a toddler to woman's shape.

MZ Elf 2746 pts

 JannaAshley  starzzzy Yeah....so inappropriate to talk about children's heine that way! I had to deal with that the whole time I grew up. I corrected a relative who used an inappropriate nickname I earned as a baby for my heine just within this last year. I called foul on it and the one's who cosigned on it. Ridiculous!

thecrazyartist 2423 pts

 MZ Elf  JannaAshley  starzzzy

 That is just so inappropriate. I was made fun of by my family for my lack of booty, and I was all of 11.  I recently gained quite a bit of weight(35lbs over 3 years) and I am trying to get back to my normal size, needless to say my extended family is berating me for wanting a "flat booty", "chicken legs" and "boy body".  I am 21 now and I hate it when people comment about children in that light, it is seriously creepy and kids hate that kind of attention.

KinkyBottleBlonde00 229 pts

The more vocal people are against these horrible iniquities, the more people will open their eyes and leave the ghettotropolis mentality and neighbourhoods. When we speak up, we're letting girls not only know that what is happening is inacceptable and undeserved, but that they are actually worthy of respect. Having people of authority champion them for the basics will give them the confidence to want the good things in life and to have the courage to accomplish many things. The children these days are pretty much orphans...how do you reproduce and not put forth protection and guidance that comes with that responsibility?

Jamila 7704 pts moderator

Also, 

 

Am I the only one who has heard several times of parents sending their kids to play in the other room while the adults stay in another room? I think this issue of "kids all go play in the other room and leave us adults alone" is also a class issue. (Sociologist Annette Lareau would refer to this type of parenting as "natural growth"--you leave the kids to their own devices and the children will do what interests them to keep themselves busy.)

 

A former friend of mine who routinely sent her son to play in his room with other kids (these were the children of her visiting friends) walked into the room to check on her son and a little girl and found the little girl on top of her son (both of them had their parents down). Obviously this was something that the little girl has seen either in her own home or somewhere else. 

 

Sending children to other rooms to play so that the adults can have their privacy is a lack of supervision of children, but I think that many lower class black people have been raised (and thus raised their own kids) to think that kids are supposed to entertain themselves and that the parents shouldn't have to keep an eye on them.

 

Once a child has been molested or exposed to certain things it might not be wise to let their child around your own children. Children that are being molested or exposed to adult material may introduce your child to the same material or try to act out things that they have seen with you child. 

heyimPearlilikefries 2135 pts

 Jamila It has to be what kind of environment that the child is around. If a child is not being raised properly and is around another child that is, things can go wrong. And we all know that the BC is a hellhole, so anyone to do that kind of parenting in that type of environment is child endangerment. Like you said. 

 

I think the natural growth thing is a very smart thing to do on behalf of the child but not in these environments. 

starzzzy 475 pts

 Jamila I am not going to excuse what the girl was doing but I will say this (and I realize most people are going to think I am crazy) but developmentally speaking SOME sex play and exploration/ curiosity is normal in little kids. Now, to what extent it is NORMAL is another question all together. Kids learn really quickly what to (or not to) do in front of adults. We don't know where that little girl got the behavior, but it would be good to talk to the kid and find out!

heyimPearlilikefries 2135 pts

 starzzzy  Jamila  Your not crazy at all. I'm pretty sure we've all hear of the kids that try to see whats going on up under there. Or really it's just natural curiousness. 

 

One time my sister and her little girlfriend brought over some dirty magazines and were looking through them and when my mom walked in she had to tell the girl to leave. My mom didn't overreact but she just told her she had to go home. After she found out that her step father was molesting the little girl. You have to be careful what you do around your kids and explain things to them. Sex is not that difficult to explain to a little kid. I had a book that explained the process of a baby and how one is made. What makes me feel wired is the things that the child repeats.. it's dysfunctional and unhealthy. 

JannaAshley 585 pts

 starzzzy  Jamila 

 

It is normal for kids to explore their bodies, it's normal for adults to respond incorrectly and freak out. If kids are doing this alone, or maybe even play "show and tell," that could be normal. My daughter loves getting out of clothes, and still doesn not understand why we don't need to see her little panties in public. But if these kids are doing something like taking their pants off and straddling someone, I would say they've definitely seen other people doing that. I think either way, the important thing is to engage the child calmly and not freak out since they do learn quickly what not to do in front of your face. I wouldn't want them to get scared and resort to being sneaky and still doing the same behavior.

ms. d 198 pts

 Jamila I was molested by another child as a child and the thing that pisses me off the most about this is that it happened when I was supposed to be supervised. It began so young I have to wonder, "where were the parent? Where was the supervision??" In the other room. Trying to not be bothered with their responsibilities. I have another family member who was molested by her brother, and I was in turn molested by one of his children. Happenstance? I think not. Everyone is deflecting and trying not to pay attention to what is happening in our community. I know this can happen in any community but it happens in ours a lot from what I can see. Sometimes, I feel sad to be black. It seems no one wants to do the heavy lifting to educate and heal. A damn shame. 

DeepWater 2519 pts

 ms. d   Jamila   Hi, I go by Deepwater, and Ooooooooh, honey, I am so sorry for the loss of your innocence.  Oh my goodness,  You feel sad to Black?   I am a Black and terribly proud (now) Black woman and proud of what Goddess has given me.  I am so sorry to hear your immediately family has molested you.  Please don't feel sad, I'm here for you even through this computer.  Please don't feel sad, I am so very sorry this has happened to you.    Welcome to you here, Ms. D.  Please don't feel sad, there's plenty of love here for you here.  I am so sorry this, your molestation, has happened to you.   I do mourn for your innocence taken.  Are you seeking therapy, Ms.D?

ms. d 198 pts

 Jamila Also, i know a woman who runs an after school program. One of the little girls had to be removed from the program because she was pulling her pants down to other kids at random and stuff. I suggested that this was not normal and maybe some misconduct was going on. She swore up and down that no, the father lives back in the dominican republic and the mother doesn't have any men around. How the hell do you know who that mother has around? Other people said it was, "cute." That's not cute. It's disturbing. 

Jamila 7704 pts moderator

 ms. d  " I suggested that this was not normal and maybe some misconduct was going on. She swore up and down that no..."

 

That's so disturbing, because kids don't just get the idea to pull their pants down in front of other children.  These sort of ideas come from somewhere, and if they aren't coming from the girls' parents, then who else does the mother allow to watch the child?

thecrazyartist 2423 pts

 Jamila  ms. d

 

This is exactly why my parents were crazy overprotective of me and my younger sisters. Even when I came home and told stories of my classmates effed up behavior my parents always would say "those kids probably learned it from adults".  I never had a babysitter, my parents didn't trust anyone.  I grew up as a military brat in my early years and in a small southwestern town, even then mom and dad were always on high alert.

 

 My mother insist to this day calling me twice and if I am going on a date dad insist that I meet him there, and not allow him to pick me up.  Moonlight strolls and motorcycle rides are not an option for me on the first few dates, partly due to the paranoia/awareness my parents instilled in me. 

 

I am 21 and anytime I accuse my parents of being overprotective dad says "If I wasn't overprotective you might not be alive" probably an exaggeration but he does have a point.  Even if it meant going in on relatives f*cked up comments and upsetting blackistani relatives. 

 

 I will admit that my mom and dad are quite paranoid and have a hard time letting me grow up  and respecting my personal space, but it's better they are this way that the "IDGAF you was fast" type of parents.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

Now, is my relative’s life hard as a result of the choices she made as a teenager to have two children? Sure. But did she know those were bad choices at the time? No, because in her mind, they made sense. I read a study recently (I think it was in TIME) where it followed up on the “marshmallow” test, you know, where the ability of a child to delay gratification predicts how well they will turn out in life (i.e. being able to pass on a marshmallow right now in favor of getting two in an hour). This study looked at how well children could practice delayed gratification, IF they had been subject to previous disappointment by adults (i.e. breaking promises). Well duh, the group of kids who kept having the researchers break their promises eventually learned getting something RIGHT NOW was way more valuable than something even better later on, which may or may not even materialize.

 

So when you have a child growing up who is subject to the abandonment, abuse and neglect that comes from two alcoholic parents, disappointment is the norm and you learn that RIGHT NOW is all that matters because tomorrow might suck. So if there is a guy offering you love for the moment who doesn’t want to use a condom or is in a lifestyle likely to result in murder/incarceration, the “love” present RIGHT NOW trumps exercising common sense to protect your future.

 

Now yes, a few people who come from horrible situations are able to make good choices, but for so many, they just cannot.

 

So if we’re gonna tackle this problem, we have to help young black girls see, SO STRONGLY, that they CAN have a future, that the idea of the future trumps the crummy options so prevalent around them, that they feel drawn to in the moment because those crummy options appear to meet the immediate emotional deficits they have as a result of the circumstances they were born to.

 

It CAN be done though, and I’ve seen it happen. 

 

diamondgal 431 pts

@dani-BBW Interesting! I've never heard of this "marshmellow" test. What an interesting concept. This does seem to apply to life. Great points!

Bren82 1395 pts

It's a shame that blame begins being placed on black women as children. How can you blame a child for a grown adult male's behavior. Someone needs to protect these girls.

violalove 141 pts

What's sadder about this situation is that you have many young girls who are abused by step-fathers and their mother's boyfriends.  So many of these girls try to speak out about the abuse to their mothers, but refuse to listen and instead valorize their men over their children.  With the rise in single-parent matriarchal households, I'm scared to even think about how many young black girls (and boys) are sexually molested and abused every day by predatory men their mothers bring home...

 

My mom and dad married at 19.  She finally divorced him after enduring 7 years of domestic and sexual abuse.  In one instance, he raped and beat my mom because she got a higher grade in their lab tech training tests than he did.  After my mother left him, she became involved with a guy 7 years her junior - he also beat her too, even when she was pregnant with my younger sister.  She left him after giving birth to my youngest sister and remained a single parent.   She vowed not to get involved or married with any man until we were grown and out of the house, because she believed you should never put the word of your child over your man, and she has kept this promise to this day.  Even now, she has no desire to get married or to be involved with anyone, because in this years since she left the boyfriend and my POS dad, God has been good to us and we have lived a happy life since - she's managed to put me, my sisters, and a male cousin she adopted through college, all by herself, owns her own home, and has a very well-paid job, and my mom is going back to school to receive her bachelor's degree and should graduate sometime next December. 

 

My cousin was "raped" at 14 and had a son - I put "raped" in quotes because she is an out lesbian, and we believe that her mother forced her to have sex so she could have a baby and my aunt could still collect housing benefits.  The same woman has another daughter who we believe has been raped or sexually molested by her longtime boyfriend now-husband, who spends most of his day sleeping on her couch smoking weed and "developing" his rap music career in his basement (no exaggeration - I really wish this wasn't real!).   She is very intelligent and shy, and loves all the same things my sisters do (K-Pop, nerdy things, etc) but acts as though she is deaf-mute around men. We've never been able to prove anything has happened, but we know something's fishy here.

 

My point is, I think the sexual abuse that exists in the black community is far more prevalent than we would like to admit.  We need to stop protecting the black men and boys even who prey on girls, even within our families.  We need to accept the fact that some of the BM our community values really aren't sh*t.

EarthJeff 3600 pts

Thanks for posting this.  As ugly and hard of a topic as this is... NEEDS to be dicussed.

Noiree 79 pts

The impunity with which black girls are sexually violated is tragic and disastrous. Reading through the comments I am struck by how many people have shared stories of sexual abuse directed as girls from as far back as the 70s and yet here we are...2012 and exactly the same thing continues to happen - same story, different faces, different era. 


I'm from the Southern part of Africa and the sexual abuse of girls in my country is widespread and deplorable, it's been phrased as defilement (semantics!) in our penal code and over the last 10 years the sentence/punishment  has been increased to address the magnitude of the problem and how rampant it is and to act as a deterrant - it's not working!. Men/boys continue to rape, sexually abuse and violate girls in my country. The police and some women's rights groups have complained about the fact that perpetrators either pay out the victim's family to prevent cases going to court or pressure the victim's family to drop the charges and these tactics often work. A cycle in which the girl gets no justice and no one acknowledges her ordeal is created.


 We do not have a culture of psychotherapy or counselling in my country therefore the side effects of sexual abuse are treated with alcohol, sex or kneeling in a pew in church which often equates to dysfunction. Even babies aged between 9 - 12 months are prey. We're not sold on counselling and we're not big on openly and constructively discussing sexual abuse of girls with the intent of finding solutions. In a patriarchal society the men are unaffected and even accuse women of making a big deal about nothing and the women - the women feign concern (and ignorance) and take no strong stance, mothers blame their daughters, punish or silence them. The similarities in the stories of black girls in America and black girls in Africa are as maddening as they are striking. 

Skayi 575 pts

If your not safe with men in your own family, then how can you ever trust men?

MZ Elf 2746 pts

 Skayi Believe me, I lived with this issue for years. It isn't easy and takes years to overcome.

aceontopofkings 417 pts

Sadly this happens to black boys too. One of my best friend's was forced to have oral sex with his male cousin when he was around 5 years old. He told his parents, his parents didn't want ANY drama in the family, so they did nothing. Please keep in mind that his cousin was in his 20s at the time babysitting him.

 

Another friend of mine ex-boyfriend has been continuously raped by his Mother's boyfriend, when he became a teenager he finally told his Mother what had been going on...what did she do? She sent him to go live with his Father.

 

The key is to not let our children in those situations in the first place. You have women bringing men in at out of their houses around their children. Placing them in harms way.

AJ2011 2310 pts

 aceontopofkings Very true.

 
aceontopofkings 417 pts

 AJ2011I completely agree with you. It's a vicious cycle that continues.

 

It's so sad because my Mother told me when she was a child and went to her family reunion my Grandmother kept her by her side THE ENTIRE TIME, even when she went to the bathroom. When she got older my Grandmother told my Mom she did that because some of the Uncles and Cousin like to "mess" with little girls.

 

It boggles me how "EVERYONE" knows who it is and what they're doing yet NOTHING is ever done about it.

AJ2011 2310 pts

 aceontopofkingsMy mother's cousin was a rapist, no one knew. He preferred unfamilar victims. One thing I can say about my grandmother's siblings is that they don't coddle criminals. He was turned in by his wife and to this day no one knows or cares how he is doing.

 
aceontopofkings 417 pts

 AJ2011 That's the way it's suppose to be done.

grrlysquirrel75 1121 pts

 aceontopofkings  AJ2011 I have two brothers and most of my cousins are male. When I was 11 or 12 my mom wouldn't let me play with the guys anymore because she knew that my cousins and some of the neighborhood boys might start getting ideas and acting on those ideas. Also, I had an uncle by marriage (he's dead now) who used to molest one of his own daughters. He also used to cop a feel from my younger cousin once she started developing. Back when she was about 14 or so she was at his house and he told her he wanted to have sex with her because he loved virgins. She ran out of that house and was screaming as she ran home. She was scared to death. My mama had warned my aunt about letting my cousin go to my aunt and uncle's house because it was a well-known fact that he was a dirty bastard.

aceontopofkings 417 pts

 grrlysquirrel75  AJ2011 That's what I find so shocking, is how everyone in the family knows of that person, yet nothing is ever done about it. It's so heartbreaking and the cycle continues.

AJ2011 2310 pts

 aceontopofkings

 Let me add this perspective: being Black, Male and 12-45 years old carries a premium. I think this is why you'll find boys as young as 8 trying to conform to this dysfunctional image of masculinity that adult black men promote (with their money). Until then they are just as unprotected as the female half of the black population.

jillodelight 516 pts

 aceontopofkings After my father passed away, my mom was always EXTREMELY careful about having my little brother around extended "family members" she didn't know.  She was always very candid in warning me and my siblings about BM pedophiles.

JannaAshley 585 pts

 jillodelight  aceontopofkings 

 

That's good, but we should point out also that a lot of sexual abuse comes from the people that you actually do know. It's easier to get your grips on people that trust you.

AJ2011 2310 pts

I'm posting this because for some reason it didn't spark as much debate or discussion as I (personally) think it should.

AJ2011 2310 pts

unrelated but related

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/black-women-murdered-by-m_b_1981857.html

 

10/18/2012

 

"Black women in America are almost always killed by someone they know, most often with a gun, and usually as the result of an argument according to "When Men Murder Women," a report released each year by my organization, the Violence Policy Center, for Domestic Violence Awareness Month in October. The annual report details national and state-by-state information on female homicides involving one female murder victim and one male offender. The study uses the most recent data available from the Federal Bureau of Investigation's unpublished Supplementary Homicide Report. According to the report:

 

•In 2010, 499 black females were murdered by males in single victim/single offender homicides.

 

•Where the relationship could be determined, 94 percent of black females killed by males in single victim/single offender incidents knew their killers (414 out of 442). Nearly 15 times as many black females were murdered by a male they knew (414 victims) than were killed by male strangers (28 victims) in single victim/single offender incidents in 2010. Of black victims who knew their offenders, 64 percent (267 out of 414) were wives, common-law wives, ex-wives or girlfriends of the offenders. Like the vast majority of all homicides -- black or white, male or female -- 93 percent (463 out of 499) of the homicides of black females were intra-racial (meaning that both the victim and offender were of the same race).

 

•As with female homicide victims in general, firearms -- especially handguns -- were the most common weapons used by males to murder black females in 2010. In the 451 homicides for which the murder weapon could be identified, 53 percent of black female victims (237 victims) were shot and killed with guns. Three times out of four the gun used was a handgun (179 of 237 victims or 76 percent). The number of black females shot and killed by their husband or intimate acquaintance (136 victims) was nearly five times as high as the total number murdered by male strangers using all weapons combined (28 victims) in single victim/single offender incidents in 2010.

 

•The overwhelming majority of homicides of black females by male offenders in single victim/single offender incidents in 2010 were not related to any other felony crime. Most often, black females were killed by males in the course of an argument -- most commonly with a firearm. In 2010, for the 403 homicides in which the circumstances between the black female victim and male offender could be identified, 89 percent (358 out of 403) were not related to the commission of any other felony. Nearly two thirds of non-felony related homicides (218 out of 358) involved arguments between the black female victim and male offender. Forty-nine percent (107 victims) were shot and killed with guns during those arguments.

 

•In 2010, for single female victim/single male offender homicides where the age of the victim was reported (474 homicides), 10 percent of black female victims were less than 18 years old (48 victims) and four percent were 65 years of age or older (17 victims). The average age of black female homicide victims was 35 years old. And while black females have the highest rate of death at the hands of male offenders -- two and a half times higher than white females (2.59 per 100,000 versus 1.06 per 100,000) and two times higher than all women combined (2.59 per 100,000 versus 1.22 per 100,000) -- the circumstances, relationships and weapons remain mind-numbingly constant for virtually all females of any race killed by males: someone they know, usually an intimate partner, during an argument or other non-felony event, and most commonly with a gun."

Christelyn 9256 pts moderator

 AJ2011 This is deserving of a post all by itself. Stay tuned. It's going up.

Toni_M 20126 pts moderator

 Christelyn   AJ2011 Prepare the gas masks. I'd be pleasantly surprised if someone didn't float in to tell us that this is all an overestimation and we're imagining things. :|

AJ2011 2310 pts

 Christelyn

 Looking forward to it

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