Do We Care About Our Afro-Latina Sisters?

Do We Care About Our Afro-Latina Sisters?

Here in America even we black folks take things for granted. We have had our civil rights movement behind us for decades and though the struggle continues, we can pretty much get what we want in this country with education and hard work. But there is an invisible group I would like to focus on today. That group would be our Afro-Latina sisters. I don’t mean the racially ambiguous Afro Latina who can easily deny her African roots by claiming that she has Indian ancestry. I mean the Afro Latina who identifies as black and is undeniably of African descent. These women proudly proclaim their heritage, but they are marginalized.

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Here in America even we black folks take things for granted. We have had our civil rights movement behind us for decades and though the struggle continues, we can pretty much get what we want in this country with education and hard work. But there is an invisible group I would like to focus on today. That group would be our Afro-Latina sisters. I don’t mean the racially ambiguous Afro Latina who can easily deny her African roots by claiming that she has Indian ancestry. I mean the Afro Latina who identifies as black and is undeniably of African descent. These women proudly proclaim their heritage, but they are marginalized.

The United Nations dedicated 2011 the International Year for the people of African Descent. I didn’t know a thing about it. I could be wrong, but I take their goal to “Right Past Wrongs” noble but naïve. To black Americans, this could mean reparations among other things, but the USA is certainly not about to give an inch on that argument — even with Barack Obama as president. Then again, that could be the reason one may argue that we need no reparations if someone of color can rise from relative obscurity to the presidency; that the effects of slavery have long disappeared. Excuse the digression, as that is a different discussion for a different time. At any rate, black folks from around the world knew of the UN initiative. They knew in South America, specifically Uruguay.

Afrodescendientes, or those of African descent are alive, but one may argue not well.  You can find communities of black people or Afro-Latinos from Mexico on down to Argentina, Chile, Paraguay and Uruguay.  Thanks to the Internet and modern technology, Afro Latinos in these countries have been able to catapult their civil rights movements to forefront and their respective governments have taken notice.  A few precious years ago, various civil rights’ movements had not really reached to where black Americans were in the 50s and 60s.  How hard is it to fight for rights and recognition when your own government and citizens deny your very existence?

I remember talking to an Argentinian college roommate about “El Negro Falucho” (Antonio Ruiz) a black fallen soldier of whom is a gigantic monument in the middle of Buenos Aires.  She had no clue of who Ruiz was, or of his or other blacks’ contributions to Argentinian independence.  This woman who was 27, had never even seen black people living in Buenos Aires.  I found other Argentinos were astoundingly ignorant about their Afro Argentino communities.  I also recall speaking with my Bolivian dental hygienist about the “nonexistent” blacks there.  I have Afro Bolivian friends and this girl was trying to tell me that Bolivia had no blacks.  I guess she did not hear first indigenous Bolivian President Evo Morales campaigning to help the plight of Afro Bolivianos were he to be elected.  I hope he kept his promise to them.  This was repeated with the Chilean nurse at my doctor’s office about ChileMexico doesn’t even classify its black citizens as Afro-Mexicans.  So there is no real count of how many exist.  But we know they are there.

Times are a changin’!

Change is slow in coming, yet coming none the less.  Many welcome the strides they have made.  But the struggle continues.  The struggle continues here at homes, so by all means it continues in Central and South America for Afro-Latinos.

In honor of the UN recognizing 2011 the International Year for People of African Descent, a group of black women in Salto, Uruguay has been profiled in a video by el Mundo Afro Salto, the region’s black culture group.  They are proclaiming their black heritage and declaring that house work is not only woman’s work.  The women are making themselves visible and making their voices heard.  The elderly, 92 year old Evangelina speaks the loudest with her silence.

Up further north, I came across a conscientious Rap/R&B group called Chocquibtown.  They sing about the perils of black folks in their town and in Colombia.  There are gold and silver mines all around them, yet the people can’t receive any of the spoils due to private corporations and government interference.  The roads are atrocious making access in and out of the town impossible.  From what I understand Chocquibtown’s mega hit “De Donde Vengo Yo” examines their poor village and though everyone wants to leave, they can’t so they make due, they can be just as happy as those who have cars, and other modern conveniences.  The young women are still able to have their hair done (with extensions if they want), wear gold jewelry and know they are hot.  The underlying theme is the Afro Colombiano’s invisibility not only in Colombia, but all over the world.  Enjoy this tune that makes you want to get up and dance; while cheering on our Colombian brothers and sisters.

What does all of this mean for black Americans and black women?  No doubt most will think nothing really as we are generally oblivious to the plight of other blacks around the world.  But we share ancestry.  Same trip different ship as they say.  This may prompt some to wonder what could they possibly do to help?  There are Many go to Paraguay and other countries with the Peace Corp.  Maybe you can make a contribution by volunteering to assist in their civil rights efforts.  Maybe you can teach English, or a skill to some of these women who are overwhelmingly the domestic “help” for middle and upper class citizens of these countries.  I suggest that we all do something even if it is only spreading the word.  Our former fight is the present fight of our sisters and black communities at large south of our borders.  Recognize and know that for every right we take for granted, someone is struggling to realize that same right for themselves.  And our Afro Latina sisters have it just that much worse.  But, times are a changin’.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Afro-Chileans 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Afro-Nicaraguan Dancers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                              Afro Panamanian Beauty

 

 

                                               The Afro-Paraguayan Community of Cambacuá

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Resources:

 Argentina

Vanishing Blacks of Argentina

El Negro Falucho (Antonio Ruiz)

Standing Commission on Afro-Argentines Studies

Bolivia

Bolivian Chapter on Human Rights, Democracy and Development

Afro Bolivian Family

Brazil

Shows in Honor of Black Consciousness Day

Chile

Oro Negro

Colombia

 Trans Africa

Costa Rica

Afro Costa Rican Women’s (Development) Center

To Inherit a Better World

Ecuador

Introduction to Collective Rights Afro ecuadorians

El Salvador

Afro Salvadorans, Identity Denied (Afrosalvadoreños, identidad negada)

I had to search high and low for this video.  El Salvador is the only Central American country with no known Afro-Salvadoran community, but there are descendants and some physical attributes are evident.  This presenters are ard breaking it down and speaking truth about the blacks of El Salvador.  Sorry folks in Spanish.  I don’t have a way to translate or add subtitles.

Afromestizo

Black People in El Salvador (by a FB friend W. Bill Smith)

Guatemala

Afromestizo, The Third Root

Honduras

Honduran Minority Rights

Nicaragua

A movement in Nicaragua  (I provided some of the research for this article)

Panama

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Panamanians

Panama: Current reality and key concerns of the Afro-Panamanian population

http://www.thepanamanews.com/pn/v_10/issue_07/spanish_opinion_03.html

Peru

Legacy of Afro Peruvian Culture

Venezuela

Trans Africa – Venezuela

Afro Latinos United- Venezuela

 

Mexico

http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php/27202-Afro-Mexicans

http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/03/12/soccer-and-the-afro-mexican-population/
http://www.workers.org/2007/us/solidarity-0503/

 

 

 

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artistlili19 6 pts

This is great! I'm half afro-latina myself (puertorican). I'm glad that there are articles out there that acknowledge that there are in fact people of african decent living in central and south America. Many hispanics dont consider themselves African or black. They rather just call themselves "dark skinned hispanics." Its time that latinos accept their proud black roots like i have!

kendrat199 234 pts

This is amazing! I have a few chilean friends who are studying in California and they said the diversity in California is something to adjust to since Chile doesn't have black people or asians. I'm glad I saw these pictures and can grasp the meaning of the African diaspora. Thank you!

SwirlQueen 995 pts

 kendrat199

 It is amazing that people don't know they have blacks in their own country.  But it happens everyday. 

femmegirl2379 64 pts

Thank you so much for this article. I always knew there were black latinos because I'm from the Caribbean and my country is just a few miles off the coast of venezuela and colombia so naturally we are exposed to a lot of people from these countries.

I lived in Panama for a few years and most of the black women there are servants and nannies to rich white people. My experience was different because I lived in a wealthy neighbourhood and I also had servants but people would be surprise because it's not often they see a black woman living well. Even when I go to the mall people would stare at me because of the way I dress. They are not used to seeing a polished black woman. When they realise that I'm not latina because of my accent, that would erase their confusion and they would be like oh! You're a foreigner.

Black women in the Caribbean and North America don't reaslise how good they have it. When you're a black woman in Latin America it's like you're invisible, unless you're a foreigner. A lot of people who live outside of Latin America don't even know that there are black latinas! It's crazy.

 

SwirlQueen 995 pts

 femmegirl2379

 Unbelievable, but yet so true.  Thanks for sharing your experience.

BleuStarrySkie 9 pts

\o Panama!.. Completely proud of being born Panamanian and completely proud of being black(PERIOD) there's no Your are from there and this one is from that other place for me, being black is a race not a nationality. Thanks for the post(Even if its a little late =p) 

I love this article!!!! I love being afro-latina. There are a lot of great things just for us, including hair products. I love Nutress Hair and they have products that seem like they are just for us! Check them out!

Based on the responses, the following has been demonstrated:

 

1) There appears to be a problem with AA BW putting their interests first


2) There was no recent example given of "foreign others" putting AA BW and girls on their agenda or doing any marching, protesting or letter writing on our behalf

 

3) The only rebuttal to my example of the Haitian second generation Mormon Mayor was that it was "weak", yet her parent's came to the U.S. in the 1970's for her to have a better life (obviously not possible in Haiti at the time or even now?)

Mia Love was quoted as saying: ""My parents have always told me I was a miracle and our family's ticket to America."

 

It was stated that her father made similar comments: "In a later interview her father stated that Mia's birth as a U.S. citizen was key to gaining permanent legal status and citizenship.[4]"

 

For her "platform" she was quoted as stating the following: "She has said that if elected to Congress, she would “join the Congressional Black Caucus and try to take that thing apart from the inside out” and has described the Democrat-dominated Caucus as characterized by “...demagoguery. They sit there and ignite emotions and ignite racism when there isn’t. They use their positions to instill fear. Hope and change is turned into fear and blame. Fear that everybody is going to lose everything and blaming Congress for everything instead of taking responsibility."[28]"

 

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mia_Love

 

Why is she not utilizing her energies to go back home to make a Haiti a better place? (rhetorical question) No, her platform was to attack the same "old school Black politicians" that enabled people like her and her family to come to America. Yet the example was called weak...?

 

Does the Black Caucus have issues, of course, but they have been the only group that has tried to improve things for AAs. The "new crossover" politicians like Mia Long will not be working towards the interests of AA BW as she behaves as if she is a "special snowflake" and she is one of many, so the political machine will have nothing to offer AA BW which is why it is critical for us to look out for our own because these new breed "crossover politicians" will ignore us to death.

 

In closing, the responses proves that there are those out there that have a vested interest in keeping AA BW focused on every other group's issues but their own.  Given that nobody else is running in to save or assist us (mostly crickets from NOW, LGBT (with a few small exceptions), Hispanics, Asians and no recent examples given about the African diaspora), it is way past time for AA BW to look out for themselves first and foremost. As economic times become more severe along with a few more "natural" disasters like Sandy or Katrina, normal groups will continue to look out for their own first, why does everyone else try to talk down AA BW from doing the same? Again, a rhetorical question because the answer is "Qui Bono" - who benefits? Well, everyone else of course!

melissamak007 230 pts

I have a question. Just out of curiosity. What is with the usage of the phrase "foreign others"? Black is Black. No matter where you come from. You don't HAVE to help anyone else if you don't want to. I don't even think that SwirlQueen was saying that we should all run out and start putting others needs ahead of our own. It was just a post highlighting the struggles of Afro-Latinas...  I volunteer with people in NY. I also helped build a house for Habitat for Humanity in New Orleans after Katrina. Maybe I am doing all the wrong things though. Coming from an Afro-Latina and a AA Southern father.

SwirlQueen 995 pts

 melissamak007

 Thank you, that is all I was doing, highlighting, informing if you will about our sisters' struggles.  You get it.

SwirlQueen 995 pts

Taylor, I don't know who you are referring to in your comment aout some out there having a vested interest in keeping AA BW focused on every other group's issues but there own but you are not talking about me.  My purpose in this piece was to highlight the plight of Afro-Latinas in Central and South America.  Nothing you stated changes my purpose for this article.  Whether you agree or not, care or not is not my concern.  I wanted to infom others who are unaware about black women and their struggles to get to where we were decades ago.  If you don't want to be sympathetic to their plight that is certainly your choice and nobody is saying anything different.  I am not recruiting for a movement.  But I think most people appreciated learning of the black communities in Central and South America who look like us, but speak Spanish.  We share similar, if not the same history and ancestry and that is just fact as well as common knowledge. 

BeautyIAM 1286 pts

 SwirlQueen 

 

"We share similar, if not the same history and ancestry and that is just fact as well as common knowledge."

 

Exactly. This cannot be ignored. It makes not sense to separate yourself for those that you can learn from. 

BeautyIAM 1286 pts

*Sigh*

 

Okay Taylor. I see what you're saying. I'll use my ONE example as a rebuttal and say Kola Boof. Although I don't agree with everything she says and does, she is a "foreign other" that stands up for black women every where. She has written books to help ease the crap that has been done and said to Black women. But I refuse to believe that there are no other "foreign others" as you put it that have helped with the AA cause.

 

You clearly don't understand how America is viewed from the outside do you? Please travel. And I'm not being condescending. It would help you get a better perspective of how other people (especially black people) view Americans. It may not all be positive, but at least you will get it. 

 

Don't assume that Black people that come here have no appreciation for the work that AA have done. I am a first gen Nigerian and like to hear and listen to what issues plague black women everywhere, not just in America. So I'm really insulted that you would use ONE "foreign other" and use her as a mouth piece for someone like me. So that's why I said that example was weak. That would be like me thinking that all Black American women are from the hood, which of course isn't true. 

 

"There was no recent example given of "foreign others" putting AA BW and girls on their agenda or doing any marching, protesting or letter writing on our behalf"

 

You also have to realize how privileged you are to live in a country where you can easily get your voice heard in some respect. Many people living outside of the states are not even aware of the problems that currently face Black American women. A skewed image of Black America is shown outside of America (ie rap videos, Tyler Perry movies). So don't assume that people are not marching, protesting, or letter writing on your behalf because they are selfish. They are ignorant about your problems just like you are ignorant about their problems.

 

 

 

BeautyIAM 1286 pts

Great article swirlqueen. 

 

I love that you highlighted to struggles black people from the diaspora are going through. I think we should all have a vested interest in helping those that we share a common history with. I get so insanely tired of this dog eat dog/crabs in a barrel mentality so many black people adopted. It makes us look incredibly ignorant and selfish. What the hell is the point of playing the oppression olympics when it comes to the black struggle? Black people around the world have gone through so much sh**  for so long. I don't see the point of turning someone into my enemy unless I truly know they are no ally of mine.   

Why would I concern myself with foreign "others" when my own are doing so poorly??  These foreign others are not doing anything actively to help the plight of AA BW and girls, if anything, they move to the U.S. of A. to get the benefits of what our people worked for through Civil Rights. Those few crumbs that remain are the only thing many of them are interested in and as soon as they obtain a bit of footing here, they are not thinking about AAs. The Utah second generation Haitian Mormon mayor comes to mind.  

 

With that as backdrop, I think "Charity starts at home", and concerning myself with foreign others is not a luxury that AA black women can afford.  Our situation is dire (OOW, health issues, economic problems, etc.), when our situation improves then and only then would I even entertain thoughts about them but only if they showed reciprocity, which at the moment I cannot think any non AA BW group that has our issues on their agenda, so I see no reason to worry about them nor to do any marching, protesting or letter writing for any of them. They are not part of my tribe.

BeautyIAM 1286 pts

Wow Taylor, with that attitude, who kicked your puppy? I'm assuming some foreign black person did.

 

This is a tragic attitude to have. I'm pretty sure if you look at African American history, there were many that had a vested interest in helping black people throughout the diaspora. I'm also sure if you look at history there were many black people that wanted to help the cause of all black people everywhere. I feel sorry for you.  You sound so unnecessarily selfish. Your ethnocentrism isn't helping you or the AA community with their plight. 

 

You can't use ONE second generation Haitian as an example of your lack of care. Its weak.

 

 

SwirlQueen 995 pts

 BeautyIAM

 Thanks for your on target point. 

Lexi88 2193 pts

I'm pretty sure the 750+ Haitian freemen who fought alongside colonial troops against the British in the Siege of Savannah, thought they were helping the plight of AA men AND women. 

Once we understand that WE are in this together, we will succeed at fighting racism and colorism. 

Patricia Kayden 1673 pts

@Swirlqueen:

 

Kudos for this article!  I must admit that I wasn't aware that there was a significant Black population in most of the Latin American countries featured.  I've always read that there was no Black indigenous population in Argentina -- that if there were any slaves, they had either moved to Brazil way back when or had so heavily mixed with the White majority, that they had disappeared.  Good research!!

 

And yes, I do care about Afro-Latinas.  I remember meeting a young lady in Canada who I assumed was West Indian.  Was really surprised when she told me she was Peruvian.  That's how I discovered that there were Blacks in Peru. LOL.  I guess we really are everywhere.

 

 

R. Kamaria 854 pts

Great article. The diaspora is vast. My grandpa (who died before I was born) is of Afro Cuban heritage. So many people I know have African and Afro-Latino heritage. It amazes me that so many people are surprised that Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, Colombians, etc are of African descent. I'm like duh!!! 

 

I work at a university and I love that our College of Liberal Arts is offering this course in 2013. http://clasweb.clas.wayne.edu/2012/11/08/New-course---Afro-Latino-Culture-in-the-US/News/2018

 

NYMan 171 pts

 R. Kamaria Even Jennifer Lopez likely has partial African heritage, but some people are quick to deny that.

Dandelion100 584 pts

You should have included some information about Belize in here as well. It is a small island but there are people of African descent there as well. My mom is from Belize. :)

SwirlQueen 995 pts

 Dandelion100

 You know, I should have included Belize as I knowBelizians who speak Spanish.  But they are considered a British protectorate so they get the benefit of the Crown. lol  But they should be considered as well.  Garifunas represent!

Seenyc 786 pts

I knew there were Afro-Latino's, but it wasn't until two years ago when I saw Henry Louis Gates series on PBS, Africans In Latin America, did I realize how many latin countries had people of African decent.  It was very interesting.

 

I live in Washington Heights in NYC with a lot of Dominicanos.  They start speaking Spanish to me before I make it clear  I only speak Spanglish. So many people don't seem to believe I'm a black American for some reason.  *shrugs* Go figure.

iHeartLove 804 pts

I have met a number of people from South or Central American countries who claim that there are no "Black" people in their country. I am not sure what that means, but I took it to mean people of African descent. Most of these instances I gave a quizzical look and didn't say anything, but I was under the impression that there are long standing communities of people of African descent in all of the countries of the Western Hemisphere. Maybe I am wrong...

 

The level of denial and ignorance of African heritage and ancestry in Latin America is probably higher than anywhere else. 

MixedUpInVegas 1654 pts

What strikingly beautiful people!  Very good article, great pictures.  Thanks, Swirlie!

SwirlQueen 995 pts

 MixedUpInVegas

 "Swirlie" I love it! Gracias.

 

dani-BBW 1787 pts

What a wonderfully informative article! I had no idea such large Afro communities existed in so many other countries outside of Brazil, Cuba and DR.

Tammy_Ghalden 867 pts

Latin America is proof that a color-blind society is not an anti-racist society. Faking being color-blind allows people to sweep race issues under the rug. If they act like they don't exist, they don't have to deal with them. I noticed that in Latin American countries with a significant percentage of people of African descent, the people like to explain away their dark skin by saying they're Indio. In Latin American countries with high indigenous populations, people who are clearly mixed with Native American like to claim they're just white. 

 

I wish I could find the video. There's a video on Youtube where this guy goes around at a carnival and asks Hispanics of Mexican descent their race. Most would either say Hispanic or white. For the ones who said Hispanic, he would tell them Hispanic is not a race. They usually changed their response to white or didn't have an answer. For the ones who said white, well, a lot of them were dark as hell. The guy asked them, "Have you ever thought about checking Native American on the census?" Most of them looked confused. Of course, there are a lot of white people in Texas who say that Mexican or Hispanic is not a race, so the Hispanics in Texas are white. This is where I have to correct them and say, "No, most are mixed-race. Since when were the Mayans and Aztecs considered white? They are Asian." They usually shut up after that. Before the Civil Rights Act, Mexicans were classified as white in Texas, but businesses would still put up signs saying "No Mexicans Allowed." At the same time, Texans could say Mexicans did not face racism because "they're white."

 

Most Mexicans are "mestizo." There is a hierarchy. The white Mexicans who only make up about 10% of the population in Mexico dominate the entertainment industry and hold most of the wealth in the country. The mestizos look down upon the full-blooded "Indios." The indigenous peoples face a lot of discrimination. As far as the Afro-Mexicans, Mexico likes to act like they don't exist. I heard that there are about 500,000 left, but most of the slaves mixed out into the general population. Mexicans, on average, are 3-8% sub-Saharan African. George Lopez and Eva Longoria fall into this range. 

onmywayup 1797 pts

 Tammy_Ghalden "Latin America is proof that a color-blind society is not an anti-racist society. Faking being color-blind allows people to sweep race issues under the rug."

 

What's funny to me is the insistence that color doesn't matter, and yet people are still identifying themselves by color/race descriptions (e.g. white, Indian, etc.).

Dandelion100 584 pts

 onthewaydown  Tammy_Ghalden I live in Texas (at the moment anyway, not from here) and my daughter is half Mexican. Well Mexican-American since the father and his parents are both from the US. I had one guy ask me "where'd you get that white baby from?" You see, she is very fair skinned. A lot of people consider Mexican to just be "white." But the thing is, I see plenty of Mexicans who are darker than me. And I fall in the "black" category. Another funny thing is, I noticed a lot of Mexicans will look down on Mexicans as a whole. These are the types that say "I'm not Mexican, I'm Spanish" and they'll pride themselves on having lighter skin. Mexicans, as I've noticed, are pretty prejudiced against their own people. Many will denounce the behaviors of other Mexicans as "ghetto" and anything synonymous with Mexican equals '"poor", "ghetto", or "low class." And, another funny thing. I have dated a few Mexicans. I got called "negrita" by one their mothers, when I'm not even that far off in skin color by him. We're pretty much the same skin color. You're definitely right about their being a hierarchy. 

melissamak007 230 pts

 Dandelion100    

Negrita may have different meanings, I guess depending on the Spanish speaking person. But, It doesn't have to do with complexion. It can also be a term of endearment.

Patricia Kayden 1673 pts

 Tammy_Ghalden "For the ones who said white, well, a lot of them were dark as hell."

 

I've met White people who don't accept Portuguese or other olive-complected Europeans as White so I can imagine that dark-skinned Mexicans are plain out of luck. LOL. 

 

What I find unusual is when I meet Latin Americans of African descent who refuse to call themselves Black.  I watched a documentary on this about Puerto Ricans who shunned the Black label.  I agree with you that color blindness (so-called) does not mean anti-racist.  Actually, quite the opposite.

Tammy_Ghalden 867 pts

 Patricia Kayden  Tammy_Ghalden I read up on the disappearing black people in Puerto Rico. Over the past 100 years, the share of the population black people hold in Puerto Rico has dropped dramatically. Puerto Ricans claim it's because of the white people who have moved to the island. Part of it is really because Puerto Ricans started to claim white in order to gain U.S. citizenship. Puerto Rico prides itself in being the whitest country in the Caribbean.

Wakawaka 101 pts

OK this might not be a very popular opinion but some, and this is a big SOME of them do not like to be identified as black either and they like to distance themselves. Same with Africans from the horn of Africa. Trust me, I'm writing this from experience, but maybe it's just my experience so I won't judge. As someone put it best in the Facebook comments, the bigger question should be "Do they care about us?" Because there are instances where being black is OK for some, and some times they are more than happy to claim to claim "other"

 

As BW we have enough problems, I will worry about you if you show you care about me.

Tammy_Ghalden 867 pts

 Wakawaka I heard that Afro-Latinos raised in the U.S. were more likely to identify as black than their immigrant counterparts. Hispanics of Indian and Spanish mix who were raised in the U.S. are more likely to identify as "other." I believe this is also true for the "mulattos" and even mostly black Latinos who emigrate here. The immigrants who are Indian/Spanish are more likely to identify as white. "Indio" is often used as an insult, so people from Latin American countries with large indigenous populations will try to claim white until they're blue in the face. Some of them are almost as dark as me and I'm a dark-skinned black person. 

Tammy_Ghalden 867 pts

 Wakawaka Dominicans have more respect for the Spaniards who enslaved them than for the Haitians who freed them; and, the Dominican Republic is the blackest country in Latin America. The overwhelming majority of people there are black or mixed with a significant amount of black. Dominicans have perfected hair straightening methods better than us because hardly any of them would dare go outside with even curly hair, not just kinky. They publicly shame people who have the audacity to wear their hair naturally. When you claim to have black pride, they will call you a Haitian and threaten to have you deported. 

Patricia Kayden 1673 pts

 Tammy_Ghalden  Wakawaka True.  I've heard that Dominicans treat Haitians quite awful.  Sad.

Just google "dominicans haitians" and scores of articles pop up on that subject.

 

AminahMatthews 541 pts

The first time I found out about blacks in Central & South America was from books by Dr. J.A.Rogers's SEX and RACE Volumes I, II and III.  And Ivan Van Sertima (They Came Before Columbus) was another. I wanted to know MORE about OUR history, so a friend of mind suggested these books (amoung others) to start with. I honestly didnt know (back then) that MORE and MORE slaves were brought to Central and South America then NORTH America. And that their foremothers AND fathers are black.

 

I too enjoy that pbs show Black In Latin America. And I hope Dr. Gates do somemore research.This time about blacks in Polynesia, South pacific etc...

GetMeOutofBlackistan 297 pts

Thank you for doing this article. The existence and plight of Afro-latinos are often ignored or just completely unknown. Afro-Latinos are indeed marginalized and suffer terrible discrimination in many of their homelands. I'm not surprised that you met Argentinians who deny there being any blacks in their country and many Mexicans are unaware that at one time there were more African slaves in Mexico than any other racial group. And despite Brazil having the largest black population outside the African continent, blacks in Brazil are treated worse than second class citizens.

 GetMeOutofBlackistan This very post on FB drew comments asking "Do they are about us?"  "Why don't many of them consider them selves black".  When you speak of their plight, it is important to know that not all blacks are suffering in other parts of the world.

onmywayup 1797 pts

"This very post on FB drew comments asking 'Do they are about us?'  'Why don't many of them consider them selves black'."

 

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This article is NOT about the Latinos who have visible African ancestry, but don't consider themselves black. The article even said this. I don't know if the people you are talking about merely skimmed, or just wanted to derail the discussion. It is about the groups of those who do claim and embrace their African ancestry, but are marginalized or ignored by their own governments in their efforts to gain recognition (among other things).

simpleebisou 127 pts

Beautiful article! Many AAs are oblivious to the fact that the African Diaspora actually placed MORE people of African descent in the Carribean and South America than in North America. My family is Afro-Spaniard, but I wasn't raised in the culture so I mainly identify as AA, but I have many Afro-Spaniard and Afro-Latino/a friends, and they range in color. So the experience of colorism in the Caribbean and South American regions is VERY alive and well and many Afro-Communities are written off as you say and segregated esp in Brazil, Colombia, and Mexico. Its CRAZY! I worked at the UN from 2010-2011 so I knew the Int'l Year Declaration, but many were unaware and to be quite honest it did feel as the Committee for that did not put enough force or PR behind it. It felt more like a "for show" thing, which happens a lot at the UN. But we definitely really need to put more care into Afro-Latino communities. There is a movement amongst Afro-Latinos in the states (no matter their color, but more so the dark-skinned women) to identify. Shakira (NOT AFRO-LATINA) has recently worked with President Obama to bring to light the situation with Afro-Colombian children. The new (comic-book animated) spider-man is Afro-Latino as well. So culture is slowly catching up to knowledge of this situation.

Lexi88 2193 pts

Wonderful post!

Just watched the four part series on Black in Latin America on PBS...very insightful. 

SimonneJackson 78 pts

Chocquibtown is awesome,I love their songs.

 

My grandmother is Puerto Rican(mixed with Native American)  and I'm quite proud of that haha. Also I think  it's more  that they maybe just identify as Latina, if I ask my Afro Latino/a friends ,they will just say they are Cuban,Puerto Rican,Columbian ,etc.

 

So perhaps for them it's just because they just see themselves as Latinas and aren't nitpicky about needin the Afro Latina label?

 

I Identify as American plain and simple, the government and everyone else  goes and sub-categorizes me into the African-American/Black Label. I'm not  sayin I don't respect where I came from(believe me I do) but I just like sayin I'm American.

 

Hm did I miss the point? lol

 

 

 

 

SwirlQueen 995 pts

 SimonneJackson

 No you did not.  In those countries revelations are still being made.  But even here when a black or other minority accomplishes something, if he or she is the first, it is noted. They do it there too. 

Margarita12 13 pts

Wonderful article! I travel to Mexico at least twice a year as I am planning to relocate there in the future. I can honestly say from my experiences so far that I have never felt more welcome and appreciated than when I'm in Mexico. It isn't that racism or negative ideas about certain groups doesn't exist. However, it's so diverse there that the issues seem to be more about "cultural" differences than "color." It is a little complicated to explain. I hope to see more Black Americans in the future taking opportunities to travel and learn more about other nationalities and cultures.

QueenOfThePen 300 pts

 lorraine Thank you for always providing the best history lessons on international women of color.  If each of these women profiled walked in line next to you and me, no one would know their nationality unless we told them.  Black women ROCK internationally!

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