Why You Should Care About the Fact that Lil’ Wayne Has Disrespected Chris Bosh’s Wife, Adrienne Bosh

Why You Should Care About the Fact that Lil’ Wayne Has Disrespected Chris Bosh’s Wife, Adrienne Bosh

I know: The last thing in the world you want right now is to read another post about rapper Lil Wayne and his issues of mental and emotional instability, but bear with me for just a moment.

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I know: The last thing in the world you want right now is to read another post about rapper Lil Wayne and his issues of mental and emotional instability, but bear with me for just a moment.

While on stage at a Beats by Dre concert, Lil Wayne decide to blast the entire NBA Heat basketball team by telling the audience, “If you’re wondering why you didn’t see me at the All Star Game. It’s because I was banned from attending all NBA events. The Miami Heat got me banned. F*** NBA! F*** NBA! F*** Lebron! F*** SheWade! F*** Chris Bosh! And I F***ed Chris Bosh wife!”

What precipitated this obviously pre-planned outburst by Wayne? One week before the rapper hit the stage at the Beats by Dre Concert, he claims that he was forcibly removed from a Miami Heat versus LA Lakers basketball game because he chose to cheer for the Lakers; subsequently, he claimed that he had been banned from all NBA events. Representatives from the NBA state that Weezy voluntarily left the game and that he has not been banned from any future events. Potential game of Who Is Really Telling the Truth? aside, the real question here is: Why Did Lil’ Wayne feel the need to throw Adrienne Bosh, wife of Chris Bosh, power forward and center for the Miami Heat, under the bus by telling an audience of complete strangers that he had had sex with her?

Adrienne Bosh is a beautiful woman, and before getting married to Chris and giving birth to his son (after getting married to him, I might add), she was a model for some skin magazines and was known to travel the party scene. For this past behavior, Mrs. Bosh is now being lambasted as a gold digger (but really, why dig if you aren’t going for the gold?), a groupie, and much worse. She is being called just about every name under the sun except a ‘child of God,’ and for what? Because as a young, single, attractive woman, with no husband and kids, she chose to model, party, and have a generally good time. Oh goodness, a young, attractive woman who is having a good time before settling down to being a wife and mother–quelle horreur!

To all the pearl clutchers in attendance who are now clutching their pearls so tightly that your knuckles are surely turning white, you can release your jewelry now because I am not going to jump on the bandwagon that has the name Let’s All Trash Adrienne Bosh on the side of it. You can ride that wagon by yourself and with your fellow pearl clutchers, thank you very much.

I am going to defend Adrienne Bosh. And I am going to explain why you should be defending Adrienne Bosh, too.

For starters, Mrs. Bosh had absolutely nothing to do with whatever situation originally aroused the ire of Weezy. Adrienne does not escort people to their seats or remove people from their seats at the Miami Heat games. Adrienne Bosh, as far as I am aware, is not even an employee of the Miami Heat. She is a wife to Chris Bosh, a mother to her own son, and a step-mother to Chris’ daughter from a previous relationship. In other words, Mrs. Bosh was minding her own business and has given Lil’ Wayne no reason to even bring her up while he was supposed to be performing for an audience of people who paid money in order to see him perform.

There is an allegation that Mrs. Bosh scammed Wayne in her pre-marriage days. Some say Bosh dated the tattooed, dreadlocked rapper and was able to get him to give her large sums of money by claiming that she needed it for cancer treatment. Maybe she did. Maybe she didn’t. But, mainly it doesn’t even matter at this point in time. Adrienne Bosh has been happy to leave any relationship that she had or didn’t have with Wayne–and any other man she may have dated–in her past, where such history properly belongs as far as any married woman is concerned.

Weezy’s attack on Mrs. Bosh is about his own misogyny, plain and simple. His attack is a demonstration of the way that women, and particularly their bodies, are used as a battlefield where men fight their wars with each other–One man says to another: I know how I’ll attack you–by attacking her! Men know that an easy way to attack the pride of another man is by hurling a vitriolic word or two at any woman associated with the man he wants to hurt.

But women are not appendages of men. Women are not subordinate to men. Women do not deserve to be attacked when they are the closest that an attacker can get to attacking a man.

The only person in this situation who should be getting belittled is Lil’ Wayne, a man who has had at least 4 children outside of wedlock and a lengthy criminal record which includes having served jail time.

Some of the women who read this may think that the slander of Adrienne has nothing to do with you, you may even think Mrs. Bosh and Mr. Bosh are getting what they deserve.

Adrienne Bosh is a fair-skinned Latina originally from Venezuela. Those who think that this situation can be reduced to an incident of ‘the dark-skinned black men choosing a light-skinned woman with a shady past when he could have had chaste dark-skinned black woman and now he is reaping what he has sown’ are missing the point. Bringing up issues of colorism would be a diversion tactic at best, and a chance to enjoy the suffering of a light-skinned woman because you think that this enjoyment will level the playing field after all of the mistreatment that dark-skinned women have received, at worst.

Don’t be confused. This is an attack on a woman because being a woman makes her an easier target to attack. And if being a woman makes a person easier to attack, then all women should realize that just because it is Adrienne being maligned today it could be you or another woman you know tomorrow.

For her part, Adrienne and her husband are taking the embarrassment and spectacle of this situation in stride, at least publicly. Adrienne has been using her twitter account to retreat positive messages from her supporters and using the twitter hashtag #TodayICan. Chris Bosh has used twitter to post a lovely picture of his two favorite ladies–himself holding a trophy, flanked by his wife and daughter. The Bosh’s have chosen thus far to refrain from speaking directly about the controversy.

Robert Little, a writer for Black Sports Online, comes to the right conclusion about the allegation that Mrs. Bosh scammed Wayne:

What does all this really mean, besides Manti Te’o would fall in love with her instantly? To me, it doesn’t mean much. She hustled Lil Wayne and probably some other ballers and entertainers.

I saw that happen 27 times during All-Star Weekend, so it isn’t an uncommon occurrence. At some point, she smarten up and realized that wasn’t the best life for her. Bosh was aware of her previous lifestyle and didn’t care. She is now married, with a kid and chilling with President Obama.

She didn’t change, she evolved. A lot of women in the industry could learn something from that.

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Jamila Akil is a Senior Editor at Beyond Black and White. Follow her on Twitter @jamilaakil

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Lexi88 2193 pts

For all the people angry and ready to fight to the end, and protect this grown woman's "honor", how about we put all that energy into defending  9 yrs old  Quvenzhané Wallis, who was called a "cunt"  by a douche bag from The Onion. And yes, this is about race. How many times have we seen the word cunt used when describing other young white kids in Hollywood? NEVER!

PamelaFoster 621 pts

 Lexi88 Preach it Lexi!!  Young QW is worthy of our time and energy..

 
DU2 2203 pts

 Lexi88 AGREED, can we shut up about this already? If  oxygen  and wording is to be wasted in cyberspace, use it to have the back of Quevenzhane' Wallis the youngest OSCAR nominated actress in the HISTORY of the Academy. She has accomplished more in 9 years than actresses 2 or 3 times her age and she is degraded to a slur word. These are the  situations that deserve 235 comments not this foolishness with an idiot rapper and one of his exes.

Brenda55 19581 pts moderator

Sorry.  I am not dieing on this hill.  This is a personal beef among a group of nouveau riche bottom dwellers  who know each other. They are in the public eye  and they are so divoid of class,deportment and common sence that they are carrying out this meaningless stupidity in public.

 

Ratchet? Yes. This having anything to do with the general condition of women around the world? No. We have young black women who are being murdered, molested and abused in the Blackistans of the US and we concentrate on the sensitivities of a bunch of talentless celebs and their hangers on?  Miss me with this.  If this is what passes for a feminist cause currently then no wonder the woman's movement held just north of joke status among many women today. There are real battles to be fought, not this cosmetic buffoonery. 

kia 2135 pts

I'm with you all the way Brenda55! Celebs trash each other daily. Black women have more important things to worry about than random celebs bickering at other random celebs about their sex lives. Who have more than enough resources and money to take legal action if they feel the need to. Black women are being abused or dying everyday all over the world. We should concentrate on helping and advising them. I'm not concerned about some random former latina groupie/model who is now married. And the men she may or may not have sexed in the past who are now denigrating her publicly. That's just one of the consequences of sexing random men who are also msyoginists.

LadyLittlefoot 664 pts

Wow, wow, wow ...  so someone shouldn't defend Adrienne Bosh because she has a reputation? That's a slap in the face to anyone (man or woman) who's ever been sexually assaulted or raped.

 

Some of you missed the point Jamilla was making about why we should care and defend that this woman with a past who is now a wife and mother. Woman often do what the feel they must to get where they want to be. I don't know Adrienne or pretend to understand her rational for being a groupie or allegedly sleeping her way around the sport and entertainment world but show me one woman heterosexual or not who has never used her beauty or sexuality to get something she wanted or needed and I will show you a liar.

 

Let us not condemn Mrs. Bosh out of hand because she has a past and used her wiles to propel herself to a better socio-economic class. The one who deserves our wrath is the mini-gremlin with a mouth like a sewer.

 

Since it's Sunday, my day of worship I will leave you with this 

 

Jesus said to the woman at the well with the 7 "husbands" "go and sin no more."  Hopefully Mrs. Bosh has left her past behind her and the rest of us should too.

 

 

Bookworm51485 283 pts

 LadyLittlefoot What is with comparing someone who made a CHOICE to sleep around to those who've been raped, which is NOT a CHOICE. That's the slap in the face, to imply that there's anything similar in those two situations.

 

As for a woman who's never used her beauty or sexuality to get something, I'd show you myself, but you've already decided that that would make me a liar. Whatever you want to believe, not all women feel like they need to trade in their looks to get things.

 

And I'm sorry, but I can't respect a gold digger. For me a gold digger is someone who has bare interest in a man, just his money (i.e. if you could get the money without the man, you'd go for it) and I don't think that that's okay. What a man's feelings don't matter because he's rich? He's not deserving of a woman who actually gives a crap about him and not just what he can give her? What about male gold diggers and rich women? Is it still okay then?

LadyLittlefoot 664 pts

 Bookworm51485 I think it's a slippery slope that to say a person with a reputation for looseness deserves what ever they get. It leaves no room for redemptive action on their part. It also opens to door to question the past actions of  sexual assault or rape survivor (how was she dressed, where did she go likewise).

 

I specifically said beauty or sexuality because the two are not linked together. I stand by what I said. A few years ago I would have thought the same way until I stood on the outside and saw a woman said she didn't use her femininity to her advantage but in fact she did. It made me step back and think about myself. 

 

I don't have too much of a problem with gold diggers as many of them make choices I would not in order to reach that gold. If they and object of  their digging can live with it, then more power to them. 

Bookworm51485 283 pts

 LadyLittlefoot I'm sorry, that's just stupid. The only people who would make that connection are those with a screwed up mindset to begin with. And who said anything about them deserving whatever they get? She was in a relationship with him and he said that he had sex with her. No really?! No one would have guessed. I'd assume that they had a completely non-sexual, platonic relationship. What people are saying is who cares? You chose to sleep with the man, knowing that he's slimy, because he had money. Your actions have consequences and this is one (if it can really even be so serious as to be considered a consequence) and we can't find it in us to care. Comparing her situation to someone who's been sexually assaulted is plain stupid and insulting.

 

As for women using their beauty and sexuality, YOU might do it, a woman you know might do it, to go from there and come to the absurd conclusion that ALL women do it is, again, just plain stupid. Not everybody feels the need to. Hell, and this might sound insulting, not everybody can.As for gold diggers, if they're up front with the men (or women), sure. But how many gold diggers do you know that are?

LadyLittlefoot 664 pts

 Bookworm51485

 

I'm done having a discussion with someone who is only interested in maligning me. I have my opinion and you have yours. I stand by it based on mine based on life experience and observation.

 

Vaya con Dios.

MrsLemelle 5 pts

 Bookworm51485  LadyLittlefoot I completely agree with Bookworm. I'm not saying I am a perfect person, but I actually feel insulted as to there are actually people in the world (especially women) who would think that all women fit into this degraded, demeaning way of life. I wasn't raised to be this way and in NO WAY will I raise my children that way. 

 

PERTAINING TO THIS ARTICLE (and I hope the Author reads this) Are you saying that because we are women we should condone and defend women being whores! I don't care what her status is currently, what's done in the dark will come to the light. As a human being, we have a responsibility to your future (i.e. future husband, children, gchildren etc.). Everything you do in your life can be subject to scrutiny. It is not my fault, nor responsibility, what another woman chooses to do in her life. These women need to wake up, grow up and take your lick, nobody told her to screw Wayne. At least he didn't put her on blast for being a scamming gold digger! 

Bookworm51485 283 pts

 LadyLittlefoot Maligning you? That's funny, you're funny. You have your opinions and I have my facts. In your experience, in your environment, you've seen women use their sexuality and beauty to get what they want, so that must obviously apply to all women? I'm sorry, but that is stupid. If you see pointing that out as maligning you, whatever.

cns 704 pts

 LadyLittlefoot

Well I consider myself on a scale from 1-10 and 8 on a good day (LOL) and I have never used my looks or sexuality to receive favors from men. I was taught that my body is a temple and not used for the sexual pleasure for random men. Many women including beautiful women were taught to use the mind and intelligent to get ahead in life. I have meet and worked with strikingly beautiful women in business, financial, technology and medical fields. A person usually will not get far in those fields on just looks alone. I don't think you realize it but you have just offended probably 50% of the whole population.

 

I believe that women like Adrienne make those life choices because they are either not smart enough to succeed in the real working world or they are just plain lazy and are looking for an easy route. Either way I don’t need to cheerlead for her she will be fine.

jakethewrestler 402 pts

Just because some ego maniac guys chasing the subject female that does not mean she is beautiful and I am talking about outside beauty.  Her promiscuous and materialistic ways are attractive to these type of men and similar women.   If you placed a crown on her head it wouldn’t fit.  I am a Cleveland Cavaliers fan and this is the type of female I expect for the Miami Heat. 

Brenda55 19581 pts moderator

We have reopened this conversation.  Have at it.

Brenda55 19581 pts moderator

OK . Enough bandwidth has been used on these folks.

Shutting this conversation down in 3....2.....1.........****POOF****

tracyreneejones 3591 pts

Did this suddenly become a black woman's blog while I slept last night.......? I swore the space had something to do with bi-racial/bi cultural and women of color. #carryon 

The_Boss 283 pts

Maybe he did actually sleep with Chris Bosh's wife... Then what?

EliseFilmore 10 pts

NO I will not bear with you for a moment, the more these coons are discussed the more popular they become.  Any publicity is good publicity.  I'm moving on.

Avoc42883 1226 pts

I don't think anyone is defending this woman's honor.  I think a few people here have made really good points about respectability which I didn't even consider.  That the fact this is even news means that our culture is not as sexually permissive as it likes to think it is.  Technically he stated a fact, which if we existed in a vacuum wouldn't be an insult.  I'm sure if Lil Wayne had shouted "I had lunch with your wife and afterwards we had some coffee" no one would be accusing him of disrespect. lol.

 

Silliness aside I don't think anyone is claiming that acting in a respectable manner makes you impervious to disrespect, but let's face it makes it less likely (at least I hope not).  We talk so much on this board about the company women keep, particularly in regards to men and the men in their communities.   The wrong kind of men can cause you all sorts of legal and financial problems.  The wrong kind of man can do a lot more than cause you to be disrespected, it can get you killed.

 

We focus so much on Lil' Wayne's colorism, his misogyny gets glossed over, and I feel like this happens over and over again.  I really do think many black women have a hard time recognizing misogyny in all its forms because its so pervasive in our culture and it goes a lot deeper than calling women bitches and ho's.

DU2 2203 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  I am going to respond to you regarding  the Mellody Hobson comment first of all I was not defending Mellody, I was agreeing with another poster that we  come to the aid and defense of some women but not others. Second, You do not know Mellody either are speaking as if you know her and are essentially doing the same thing you are coming at me with. How do YOU know Mellody is a DBR?? do you have proof? or are you just trying to make her one to make your point. But you have made yourself a self appointed committee of one on the matter.  Having money  and doing well does not mean  you treat people poorly YOU just assume that is the case. As I said before, it is her life, her business, and why do we care? Why are so many words being wasted defending her "honor" and she does not know any of those sister solidering for so hard anyway. She has a man for that now, let him do his job.

Neecy 1941 pts

 DU2  Zindzi_Zenani "Why are so many words being wasted defending her "honor" and she does not know any of those sister solidering for so hard anyway. She has a man for that now, let him do his job."

 

Black women can't help themselves. LOL!

 

Not even this woman's HUSBAND is sweating it like so many here.

 

i just think BW are so accostomed to soldierieng for everyone that they even do it when said "victim" has a man to do it for them.

 

Its sad really.....

 

 

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 DU2 I'm sorry, but I could swear I was responding to CNS.  In fact, if you look at my responses, that's exactly who I was responding to.  

 

I made it pretty clear how I know about her behavior and why I think that makes HER DBR.  I know of it because she's treated ME poorly for no reason and I know she's treated the people who work under poorly for no reason (because I've heard it WITH MY OWN EARS several times and heard it from people who work under her several times).  I'm NOT dealing with hearsay.  I'm talking about what I've heard.  I'm not assuming ANYTHING.  You obviously aren't reading my whole responses (which is why you thought it was directed to you and how you totally missed the part where I said how I know she's nasty to other people).

 

In my opinion, someone who treats their own assistant like sh*t simply because they're an assistant is not a good person.  I have far less respect for someone like that than someone who's slept with who she wanted to sleep with.

 

My point is, you all are applying the politics of respectability to this based on who you think is publicly respectable.  MH is NOT respectable!  She's mean and nasty to people who are trying to support her!  Therefore, lets just say all womben deserve respect and that covers everyone.  But noooooo, some of you are too busy thinking that if you behave and are seen as respectable, that'll prevent you from being the victim of sexism.

 

As Toni said, some of you all are DETERMINED to miss the point of the post.  She also said, "Now, no one's asking you to go out in the street and MARCH for this woman. But at least give a damn, if not for her, for yourself. Because one day, someone who is NOT a black woman may be standing between you and justice. And I hope they look at you with the compassion and understanding that you would want for yourself, without asking you to look at your life and your choices and prove to them that you are a human being deserving of someone to stand up for you."

 

You all have a good day.

cns 704 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  DU2

 Can you share an example of how Mellody Hobson treated you and others badly? I'm not doubting you, I'm just curious.

Neecy 1941 pts

sorry for the dupe posts!

Neecy 1941 pts

If this was all about simply "being a woman and being attacked"it was clear Lil Wayne was also pissed off with Lebron and De wayne wade (whom he referred to as a woman). These men also have wives and g/f's. They managed to escape Lil Wayne's tirade - but their husbands didn't. So that says to me this was more of a PERSONAL issue Wayne had with Adreinne than him just slewing insults randomly at teammates wives and g/f's.

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

Jamila, I truly admire you for writing this (especially after seeing a lot of the conversation).  This is why sexism will never be eradicated.  Too many womben, even those who deem themselves anti-misogyny, want to practice the "politics of respectability" because they honestly think this will keep them from being victims of such attacks.  *smh*  Sad.

Neecy 1941 pts

If women want to end misogynony then STOP intermingling with, supporting and buying thier music, showing up at their events! Its that simple.

 

Instead. Women want to gain from these kinds of men and get all the recognition from them sexually and financially, and then cry foul when these men do EXACTLY what they have always done and been known to do - HATE WOMEN. Expect it only becomes a problem when said woman no longer wants to be aligned with the very people she supported and who supported her.

Who do you think is buying all of those Black men skin mags? These women like Adrienne pimp themseles out in these mens videos, parties and such and then we are supposed to feel sorry for them later when these men turn on them?

 

PLEASE!

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 Neecy Do you do any of these things?  I doubt it.  Yet, misogyny can still touch you.  I hope you don't think that the life you lead is something that prevents you from becoming a target of sexism.  All that this takes is what's between your legs, not what's in your past, your heart, or your head.

 

When this fool calls womben "b*tches" and "hoes," he's not just talking about the womben he's encountered.  He's talking about all of us.  When the people who listen to him or who think like him use those words, they're talking to all of us too.  I've walked down the street and ignored someone trying to "holla" at me and have had some sick & nasty rap line yelled at me as I walked down the street.  Just for ignoring this person.

 

To me, it sounds like you're preaching the politics of respectability and that doesn't work.

Elegance 2096 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  Neecy 

"I hope you don't think that the life you lead is something that prevents you from becoming a target of sexism.  All that this takes is what's between your legs, not what's in your past, your heart, or your head."

 

How does standing up for Ms. Bosh protect anyone from sexism then? How does supporting women in hip hop and skin mags protect women from sexism? You are criticizing Neecy's choice to not support such women by stating being different from them will not protect her from sexism, but being like those women will not protect her either. 

 

What's wrong with being respectable? Is that a dirty word?

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 Elegance  Neecy Its clear ou don't understand what I mean when I say the "politics of respectability" so I'm thinking my points will be lost on you.  Quick synopsis; its the idea that if you're respectable enough, people will treat you well.  It doesn't work.  Patriarchy and sexism will attack even the most respectable womben.  Trust. 

 

Have a good day.

Elegance 2096 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  Neecy 

"Its clear ou don't understand what I mean when I say the "politics of respectability" so I'm thinking my points will be lost on you."

 

I did know what respectability politics meant. But you clarified that you think that it does not work and being respectable does not protect you from any attack. I guess that has been your experience but it hasn't been mine.

 

I don't give people being sexist much mind since it doesn't effect me enough to prevent me from doing the things I need to do. Being respectable has worked well for me. But then again I don't associate with rappers or pose in skin mags either. I will always believe and advise people that if you act in a respectable manner you are MORE LIKELY to be treated with respect than those who act in ways that society deems not respectable. It is not absolute protection but it is way better that not trying to be respectable in any way.

 

Some people are just more respectable than others, this is reality, for whatever reason they are more likely to get respect....I look to them for examples of how to behave rather than those who appear to have no self-respect who others do not respect. 

Neecy 1941 pts

Regarding this whole argument about misogynoy and why we need to take this article as something serious in taking a stand against hate direced at women. lemme as yall something. Jamila admits that Mrs. Bosh was once a former model for skin mags and such and partied. I'm assuming she partied in circles with the likes of the Lil Waynes of the world and in fact is she was in skin mags (yes she was in BLACK MEN'S SKIN MAGS) then it stands to reason she was in constant contact with men who degraded women in some fashion.

 

Women concerned about misogynoy do not intermingle, sleep with or interact with men who uphold this.

 

The fact is many women like Mrs. Bosh (yes even Black women like her) are fine with dealig with misogynist low class woman hating rappers and such as long as they are benefiting in some way - be it employment, becoming popular by these men b/c of thier looks and/or bodies and making money and getting fame and recognition as such.

 

If Miss Bosh was in fact apart of skin mags and partying it up on that scene to where she would have interactions with the likes of LIL WAYNE, then it stands to say that she wasn't so concerned with mysogonists like Wayne as long as she was getting paid and partying it those circles.

 

See how this works? Once again women want to have their cake and eat it too. You cannot gain from the misogyonist lifestyle and then look down on it later when it no longer benefits you.

 

So I'm not buying this whole we gotta feel sorry for her and defend her from misogyny. UHM if she was traveling and partying it up in circles where the Lil Waynes of the worlds dwell then I'm convinced she was aware and ok with these kinds of men as long as she was benefiting in some way.

 

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 Neecy So, we only speak up for womben who are also against misogyny?  Really?  If that were the case, we wouldn't be speaking up for most womben who were subjugated by men.  We certainly wouldn't be speaking on behalf of the vast majority of domestic assault and rape victims.

 

The fact of the matter is, men will say, "I f*cked her," as a way to insult ANY WOMBAN, regardless of her past.  And these men who treat womben like objects will talk about ANY womban like that.  That includes me and you and any womban who stands up against patriarchy.  They don't just pick the ones who are complicit in sexism to attack.

 

Like I said, I don't know these folks and I'm not really concerned about her, per se.  I'm concerned about the fact that men still use the fact that they've slept with a womban as a way to insult her.  As if a womban sleeping with various men is something that lessens her value or is something she should be ashamed of.  I'm concerned about that because it could happen to me and all the other womben I know and love.  Who cares if she was ok with it?  That's not exactly the point (or at least I don't think it is...Jamila would have to clarify).

Elegance 2096 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  Neecy "So, we only speak up for womben who are also against misogyny?  Really?  If that were the case, we wouldn't be speaking up for most womben who were subjugated by men"

 

I don't see all women as being helpless victims. Women make choices and they should be held accountable for that because they are not helpless, mentally underdeveloped children. If women contribute to misogynist hip hop or degrading media then they should also be the focus of similar outrage. They are contributing to the misogyny the same as they men, they don't get excused. Unless she was dirt poor and had no other choice but to do those things then she is not a victim, she made choices as an adult, and she can be held accountable. 

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 Elegance  Neecy Being held accountable for the mistakes she has made involve being prosecuted (if she really used an illegal scheme to get money out of him).  Being held accountable is not being the object of an attack involving a situation THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HER.  Making mistakes or bad decisions does not give people a pass to attack you whenever they want at anytime.

 

Nobody is trying to make womben out to be helpless victims.  We can always fight against misogyny, which means we're never helpless.  My point is, if you all really think him attacking her was all about her past, you're kidding yourself.  It was about the fact that SHE'S A WOMBAN.  Had he gotten mad at a man you were dating, he would've said the same thing about YOU.

Elegance 2096 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  Neecy 

"Making mistakes or bad decisions does not give people a pass to attack you whenever they want at anytime."

 

No one needs "passes" to attack someone, they just do it, that is reality. If someone wants to hurt you they will do whatever means necessary even if you think it's wrong. 

 

"My point is, if you all really think him attacking her was all about her past, you're kidding yourself.  It was about the fact that SHE'S A WOMBAN.  Had he gotten mad at a man you were dating, he would've said the same thing about YOU."

 

And? I think most of us realize that some people will attack us because we are women or because we are Black. How does being concerned about Ms. Bosh protect us from any of that? "Caring " about her doesn't change her situation or protect us so there is not much point in doing so. I know full well that men I have dated could use that to harm me...that's life. If I have a falling out with my parents, brother, and friends they could also use my past and secrets to harm me....that's life. Personally I don;t care that she had sex (surprised???). I just think it's disgusting she slept with that nasty goblin....ewww.

Neecy 1941 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  Elegance If it was simply about her being a woman, then why didn't he attack the wives and g/f's of Dewayne Wade and Lebron James? He called both of them out like he did Chris Bosh. 

 

So if it was less of a personal issue and more of a woman hating issue, all of the wives and g/f's of the team he mentioned would have been called out.

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 Neecy  Elegance Why did he call out ANY WOMBAN AT ALL?  None of them had anything to do with it.  He picked the womban he thought was the easiest target, but she shouldn't have been a target at all!  That's the point!

Neecy 1941 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  Elegance Meh. Gonna have to disagree. He chose the woman who IN MY EYES he had some kind of negative history with. PERIOD. Therefore this in my eyes is a PERSONAL issue and not one of him randomley hating on the team members women as a way to insult the men who was pissed off at.

 

Like I said. He was equally pissed at Bosh, Le Bron and Wade. But Bosh's wife got called out b/c he most likely had some kind of history with her unlike the others wives or g/f's. PERIOD.

Elegance 2096 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  Neecy 

"Why did he call out ANY WOMBAN AT ALL?  None of them had anything to do with it.  He picked the womban he thought was the easiest target, but she shouldn't have been a target at all!  That's the point!"

 

Because he's a no good misogynist rapper!!!! He has no manners, no respect for women, he is just an idiot. A gentleman would not do that. "Shoulds" do not have any power and I wish people would stop saying "it should be this way or that way" . We need to face REALITY not how things should be in an ideal world. You are expecting Lil Goblin to have morals and respect a woman and not use any chance he gets to insult one...but he LOVES to insult women! Men who don't like women insult them even when they have done nothing wrong!

zabeth 817 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  Neecy " I'm concerned about that because it could happen to me and all the other womben I know and love." <<< But don't you get that this has already happened to you and black women who look like you for decades? Don't you get that? But now we're supposed to be extra concerned because it's Adrienne Bosh (a Latina- from my understanding she's Venezuelan and German, not black), why? 

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 zabeth  Neecy Seriously?  Seriously?  You really think I'm aware these things haven't happened to Black womben?  Ok...

 

Look, good luck with thinking that only fighting sexism when its directed against Black womben will eradicate patriarchy.  Good luck with that, indeed.

zabeth 817 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  Neecy Patriarchy won't ever be eradicated- again a complete lack of understanding of what black women's empowerment is really about.

Elegance 2096 pts

 zabeth  Zindzi_Zenani  Neecy 

Yes, I think that her focus is on fighting the patriarchy but many women here are not focusing on that. They want to better things for Black women while Latina women focus on bettering their group and White women focus on their group. Some women think that is a better use of their time than focusing on Latina and White issue.

 

LOL, here's a question...why is there this impetus for Black women to care about this when she can get the whole Latino community to care about this and help her? Let the Latinos handle it, it's not as though they can't. 

zabeth 817 pts

 Elegance  Zindzi_Zenani  Neecy  THIS! OMG THIS!!! BINGO! >>>>

 

"LOL, here's a question...why is there this impetus for Black women to care about this when she can get the whole Latino community to care about this and help her? Let the Latinos handle it, it's not as though they can't"

Neecy 1941 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani 

 

I guess I simply don't care about some dumb ass saying he slept with me or another woman. And I guess Adreienne and her hsuband don't either.

 

There are MANY cases of female hatred that are more serious than some loser saying "I slept with her". Seriously!

 

This woman is now living a nice life with apparently a husband that loves her, why the hell should she care about what some dumb ass rapper has said? WHy waste energy on petty stuff like this that have been going on since the beginning of time.

 

WOmen are JUST as if not much CRUELER to other women in these same cases. A woman just like a man will be the first to put another woman's sexual history on blast as a way to knock her down a peg. This IMO is not a man hating woman issue, its an issue that people have and will use against others they do not like.

 

People in general who are immature will throw out something nasty about a person they don't like.

 

Women are more likely to broadcast another woman's personal sexual history. So why are we not addressing them? Is it just men who do this? NO.

 

Many women have been the target of loser men who claim to have slept with them. Im sure these women have survived and been able to live their lives just like Adrienne is doing.

 

There are more pressing issues for me to be concerned with in terms of woman hating than a rapper and former groupie/model who used these same kinds of men to get ahead financially. If you interact with trash do not be surprised when that trash shows back up on your front door.

 

What's funny though is it all goes back to the previous articles where women want to defend their rights to be who they want and live the carefree sexual lifestyles and BE PROUD OF IT. Game and use the very low class woman hating men for their money and to get famous. And then cry foul when these men act like what they are and have always been - woman hating fools! yet when her reputaition for that lifestyle becomes the forefront in questioning her credibility suddenly we need to forget about the bad choices or the choices she made that benefited her at that time?

 

LIL WAYNE is not credible. We need to pick and choose our battles.

 

 

 

This is a country where freedome of speech is KING and yes even IDIOTS like Lil Waye have a platform to spew their nonsense.

 

If she or her husband are so hurt by this they have legal recourse they can pursue. But i am NOT going to get all up in arms over a woman who benefited off of a certain misogynist  lifestyle that has come back to bite her in the butt.

Elegance 2096 pts

 Neecy  Zindzi_Zenani 

"What's funny though is it all goes back to the previous articles where women want to defend their rights to be who they want and live the carefree sexual lifestyles and BE PROUD OF IT."

 

I KNOW! This is one of the most surprising things to me. All he was was that he slept with her...so? He didn't say she was a freak, a s___ or wh___, or did something disgusting or anything, they just had sex. He had sex with Lauren London too...and? It's not really an insult to say you had sex with someone anymore...unless they are really gross like Lil Goblin. I khow who LOTS of celebrities have slept with. I thought this site was all "Who you have sex with doesn't matter" so I'm surprised that when a man says he had sex with someone that's an insult and an attack against all women?

 

Please...  That insult was so tame, who even cares about that. I think from what I heard people don't like her groupie status, the possible fraud, and accusations of goldigging. The sex part is nothing, just showing she would sleep with a troll.