Celebrity Swirling: Zoe and Bradley Back Together!!

Again just folks gameing the system.  Nothing new under the sun.

@mrs lav: While many people will share your opinion, I have to say that the blanket statement that "All of those island people or like that. No one wants to be black. Black people were slaves and had to sit on the back of the bus and come in the back door" is just wrong.  

First of all, Caribbean cultures have lots of similarities but many important cultural difference and distinct practices that vary from island to island.  Colorism certainly is rampant, as it is here and throughout the world.  Racism exists, but it isn't necessarily the same as it is here. Social class and country of origin are much more important than they tend to be in the U.S.

Notions of "being black" outside of the U.S. just aren't always identical to what any particular American from the U.S. would want them to be (and let's be honest and acknowledge that people here can't even agree on what they are either...).  The Dominican Republic especially has a very particular history that explains why rejecting a "Black" identity (but not necessarily the presence of African ancestry....though some certainly do that too) was ingrained in many Dominicans.  Cross over into Haiti and it's a completely different story.  Basically the same people genetically, but their histories and conflicts have led to somewhat different views.  

Latinos broadly have come here and learned to bend the rules to their advantage.  It doesn't mean that their identities or sense of what their ancestries are change.  That's really an American thing that many people from the Caribbean and Latin America don't buy into.  The social construction of race there is just not identical to what it is here.  Why expect people to act and believe as you do when they are from different cultures with different rules?

 mrs Also:  More African slaves went to the Caribbean and South America than came to the U.S.  Acknowledging that history doesn't mean a person has to "be Black" anymore than me acknowledging my Native American heritage means that I need to "be Indian."  A difference, though, is that those slaves and their descendants were much more integrated genetically in some countries.  No one drop rule existed there, and still doesn't.  That whole idea sounds crazy to anyone outside of the U.S. 

I beg your pardon! All of us island people are like what?

Why can't she define herself as she sees fit?

Why should she give a fig whether you reject her or not?

Figured I'd have to state it as simply as possible so you'd get it.

I agree with Brenda55.  Also:  She isn't Black (African American) so how can she reject a heritage she doesn't actually have? She is a Latina from the Dominican Republic.  It's known that Dominicans have African heritage.

 Statuesque Black isn't just African American. Many ethnicities are considered Black that are not African American. The words are not interchangeable.

 iHeartLove Race and ethnicity aren't interchangeable concepts.  These days race refers to a subcategory of the human species based on continental origin. Ethnicity refers to a subgroup or tribe, usually within a nation.  In the U.S. calling someone "Black" is frequently conflated with calling someone "African American," even when that person has no US American ancestry and may be of sub Saharan African ancestry from the Caribbean or Africa.   The reason why I put African American in parentheses was to specify the ethnicity under discussion so there was no confusion.  People use the term "Black" in many ways and it can get confusing.

Zoe may not consider herself ethnically "Black," which would make sense both because she isn't African American and also because many Dominicans, though aware of their African ancestry, don't identify as "Black" racially either.

 Statuesque 

@ Statuesque. Zoe has stated that she is black. Obviously she's one Dominican who's not ashamed/affraid of saying that. Which is cool with me. Samething with Halle Berry.

Wait...I read some where she said she is black. I think Zoe is confused. Then again it doesn't matter if she say she black or not . She will still be treated as such and she knows it.

 AminahMatthews So then there is no real problem and the world can continue on as it always has.

 Patricia Kayden Yeah, she was engaged for a while, but it ended toward the end of last year,  I believe. They were together for a long time though.

 introvertedwanderer  Patricia Kayden

This is what happens when you reach the peek of your career like Zoe. Men break up with you when you become more famous then them. I think that is the samething what happen to Kerry Washington too and  her beau. 

 Patricia Kayden I am so gonna sic Cocuya on you! - obviously, he's a 'man-whore' and she's a non-celibate slu .... - I mean 'non-Goddess'.

 Patricia Kayden She was with her ex for like 10 years and since then the only man I've seen her with is Cooper. That hardly qualifies as jumping from man to man. 

 Patricia Kayden She was with the same man for 10 years or so, they got engaged, and broke up a year or so later.  Then she started dating Bradley.  That's only 2 men over 12 years- hardly qualifies as a "jump from man to man very easily."

 Afroasis 

I don't know. There is just something off putting about a person's first post on a site being snarky and negative. Snarky and funny would have been one thing but snarky and negative is kind of like making an entrance at a party with a belch. 

 KingsDaughter Probably. 

 Brenda55   LOL  Seriously though, I really do think that. Something about his face.

 KingsDaughter I think I may be because of his eyes and those looooooooooooooog eye lashes that guys don't really need and us gals pay a fortune for.

 KingsDaughter Oh BTW I meant to ask.  Do you play the Guitar?

 Brenda55  KingsDaughter Yeah I do.

 Brenda55 Yes, that! Plus the chin :)

 Brenda55 That baby ponytail he's sporting in the picture doesn't help much!

 KingsDaughter What kind of music? Fender makes a great product. In Pennsylvania it is the land of Martin guitar.

 Brenda55 I play rock driven contemporary Christian music. I grew up with rock so it kind of stuck ...

Hey I've played a Martin before. A beautiful guitar with a built in mic but the sound was just ok. Not as good as a Taylor, which sounds SWEET.

 Brenda55 LOL Let me clarify and say the light rock genre CCM

 KingsDaughter I don't find him atttractive at all.  For some reason, this guy, and that clown Ashton Kutcher, both have the same affect on me, which is to annoy me to no end.  I can barely watch either of them in anything.  I end up having to turn the channel.  

 introvertedwanderer  KingsDaughter He is very attractive with great taste in women.;)

 diamondgirl  KingsDaughter   There are guys that I go gaga over like a James McAvoy, MIchael Fassbender, Richard Armitage, Ben Wishaw, James Franco, Bi-Rain, Idris Elba, on, and on, and on,  I just don't really care for this guy, that's all.

 introvertedwanderer  KingsDaughter He is very attractive with great taste in women.;)  He looks like all the other rainbeau guys that everyone loves.  Very cute!