Commentary on the Crooked Room: Melissa Harris-Perry Shines a Light On How Perception Affects Black Women

Commentary on the Crooked Room: Melissa Harris-Perry Shines a Light On How Perception Affects Black Women

Ever heard of the theory of the “crooked room?” If you haven’t, maybe you have heard of Plato’s Allegory of the Cave. Look around, are the images you see tilted? They are for most Black women…

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A recent sequence of posts about Black women, perceptions of beauty, and our inability to accept compliments rekindled a desire in me to write about Melissa Harris-Perry’s most recent work, Sister Citizen (2011). Though the prose is primarily political in nature, there were two core theories presented that resounded with me. So much so, I believe that much of the internal and external characteristics I possess today have been significantly augmented for the better.

Sister Citizen: Shame, Stereotypes and Black Women in America, released in September 2011,  is a lovely and intelligent book about the images in the media that work to define Black women and their roles in American society. And though the prolific Cornel West has had much to say about Harris-Perry’s work, many contemporary, non-male scholars and commentators have accepted her presence as both necessary and legitimate.

The Crooked Room

Ever heard of the theory of the “crooked room?” If you haven’t, maybe you have heard of Plato’s Allegory of the Cave. They are quite similar. I parallel the two because they both hint on the concept that [wo]men exist in a sort of a vaccuum and until enlightened to the pretense of their environments, they mentally assimilate with whatever their surroundings may be. The crooked room is a central point of reference for Harris-Parry’s work and is summarized as follows:

“In one study, subjects were placed in a crooked chair in a crooked room and then asked to align themselves vertically. Some perceived themselves as straight only in relation to their surroundings. To researchers’ surprise, some people could be tilted as much as 35 degrees and report that they were perfectly straight, simply because they were aligned with images that were equally tilted. But not everyone did this: some managed to get themselves more or less upright regardless of how crooked the surrounding images were.

When they confront race and gender stereotypes, black women are standing in a crooked room, and they have to figure out which way is up. Bombarded with warped images of their humanity, some black women tilt and bend themselves to fit the distortion.”

What exactly does Harris-Perry mean when she notes that Black women “tilt and bend themselves to fit the distortion?” Ever heard of a young lady named Beyoncé? Did you think that was her natural hair color? skin texture? eye color?

 

Yes, in its simplest sense, it looks like colorism at its finest. This beautiful and talented 9 year old girl…

 

 

 

…grew up to be a gorgeous young black woman who hit major stardom in the mid-1990s…

 

…but, by the early 2000s, her attire, skin tone, and hair texture had already begun to change…

 

 

…till we reach now…where she basically resembles a very beautiful, non-descriptly ethnic woman…

 

On Giving In to the Room We Live In

Some will criticize this post as hating. But, the truth is, no matter what Beyoncé does to her hair, body, or otherwise does not take away from her talent. But, her transformation over the last twenty years is indicative of a larger phenomenon affecting Black women. Her mere presence and bountiful success works in two interesting ways.

  1. It shows young Black girls that there is a possibility to come from humble beginnings and make it big one day. Her symbolism reinforces the notion of the “American Dream.” You know, the one where you pull yourself up from your bootstraps and whatnot.
  2. On the other hand, Beyoncé’s physical changes garnering such accolades and praise (like being named People Magazine‘s “Most Beautiful Woman in the World” in 2012 after the magazine’s hiatus on Black women from Halle Berry gracing the cover 9 years earlier) sends dual messaging to young women and boys about what Black women are “supposed” to look like. It says that a beautiful young woman with countless talent still has to transfigure herself to be deemed beautiful by the rest of the world. So, what if you deem yourself less talented or less beautiful than she was to begin with? What then?

In that case, many women simply give in to the crooked room they are living in. In other words, they behave in a way that contorts and shifts into lockstep with the world around them. And though it may make them feel more beautiful, it never quite seems to satiate their desire to be loved, appreciated, honored, or respected. This is one of the central issues affecting Black women’s self-imaging. Why can’t we take compliments? Well, because the bestow-er must be disingenuous right? I’m no Beyoncé, right? Even she has to change herself to be pretty. So, I have to do something even more extreme, right?

We all live in this crooked room. And, not only does it make it hard for us to receive compliments, it makes it hard for us to give them too. This is especially so when it comes to other Black women. Innate competition between us about hair length, skin tone, material possessions, and all types of other inconsequential indicators of self-worth impair our abilities to appreciate each other. Ever walk outside thinking you were just doing it, (hair did, nails did, everythang did…) only to have one of your girlfriends rip you a new one? Was your head up too high so they had to ground you real quick? The crooked room tells us that ain’t nobody “all that.” And, even if they think they are, we can find something about them to get them back in their place.

I will end this on a personal note since there is much more to be said in a future post. Growing up as a brown girl in a brown world, my world was always slightly off-kilter. But, my mother put me in diverse schools with students of many different ethnic backgrounds. So, I was fortunate enough to have my world constantly tilting on its axis every time I went to school, church, or family gatherings. I got a multitude of images and social norms from numerous  sources which almost made me crazy at times. But, it was their intersection that elucidated the center of my planetary mass. Somewhere in the center, I realized that some of the boys didn’t like me, they preferred the girls with longer, “whiter” hair. And, in some cases, the boys really liked me because I appeared easier to get than those other girls.

One thing that always stuck out to me was a very subtle thing: courtesy. At school, during flu-season, everyone would constantly sneeze. The teacher would sneeze, and the class would say “God bless you” in unison. A Hispanic boy would sneeze, similar levels of bless yous. An Asian girl would sneeze, more bless yous. Then, I would sneeze, silence…to this very day, I find myself in crooked rooms where this is the norm. And, it wasn’t until reading Harris-Perry’s book that I realized the polymorphic existence I had always inhabited wasn’t my own creation. It was the endless tilting of the endless rooms that I was gliding through on a daily basis. And, there were times when I appeased them. In one room, I would try to seem more “black.” I’d roll some syllables and purposely relax my diction in certain company. And, I’d perform the equal and opposite actions in other tilted rooms.

But, one day, I simply said enough was enough. I stood up straight in all my rooms. And, though I found it jarring at first (because some rooms were surprisingly more tilted than others – I mean damn near 90 degrees askew), I found that my straightened form made everything very clear to me. I demanded the same treatment as everyone else. I demanded the same respect as everyone else. And, I defined my most linear plane. It may be crooked to others, but that’s simply because they are walking around like some Smooth Criminals…think about it. Ever found yourself in a crooked room? Heck, you may be in one right now…

To be continued…The Mammy, the Jezebel, the Sapphire, and Shaming

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LaFemmeSphinx 286 pts

Great post! I'll totally relate and I'll definitely look into reading that book!

 

It's interesting, I was having a conversation with friends, two darker skinned, gorgeous Mexican women. I had decided my graduation gift to myself was an extensive DNA test so I can know my heritage, and one of my friends had one and was sharing her experience knowing her diverse ethnic build up. So it then became a discussion of colorism in both our cultures and how we all had been effected by this horrible perception that light skin=pretty. Blonde=pretty. Beyonce's name came up frequently and how frequently she's further lightened in ads, how she only get's more blonde, and how we as ethnic women are eating it up. We believe we have to gentrify ourselves to be acceptable.I was constantly told I should straighten my hair again, I was cute....for a dark skinned girl, typical colorism bs.

 

It was refreshing to hear the take of women from another ethnicity express the same sentiment(being told to stay out of the sun!----though my mother and immediate family never did this, just others adding their two cents when I was outside playing). I had a similar conversation with a Fillipino college student who was also pretty dark skinned, but had been adopted by white parents, so her experience in growing up as a brown girl raised by white parents in their world left her with very strong observations and emotions about the perception of beauty.

Joyce345 1751 pts

I believe that to be able to stand up straight in all her rooms a black woman must learn to trust her instincts. Black women are trained from birth to ignore their instincts. Many times you feel something in your gut telling you that things are not right yet people around you tell you nothing is wrong.

 

If your nose can catch a whiff of something rotten that means that there probably IS something rotten in the room. Take  a look at online discussions on street harassment where women are basically told that something clearly inappropriate is 'no big deal.' And that bm are simply being nice by appreciating your beauty. There is a good reason why you felt scared when that 'nice' man 'appreciated your beauty.'

CherieMaria 838 pts

I just found the book at my library. I am enjoying it so far. Melissa Harris-Perry is awesome. And I agree with you about the sneezing in class part, I notice that a lot. Nice post!

ASwirlGirl 3217 pts

Love. this. post!

 

I also love Melissa Harris-Perry and I want to check out her book. So looking forward to your next installment.

EarthJeff 3569 pts

ASwirlGirl "Love. this. post!"

Me too

 

 

WorldTravelingChic 719 pts

Great post! I'm looking forward to the next installment and will definitely be checking this book out over the winter break.

Morenika 870 pts

I am no looking for this book.  I think that it is so important that we get t to teach going women, black women and any other woman young and old that is of color that we make the world a brighter place by adding our attributes to the mix.  It is hard to align yourself when everyone is telling you and showing you who fits the definition of beauty when you are a different shade with a different hair texture.  great post.  

courtney7389 31 pts

Wow! I'm definitely going to have to get this book. I have never heard about the of crooked room before but it totally makes sense. Always having to change yourself depending on your surroundings and the large amount of pressure black women get from the media and those around them is definitely a difficult environment to live in. I know what you mean when it it comes to how others may treat you especially with manners. For some reason we often aren't given the same respect in some circles. I loved the way you explained this concepts. Very well written commentary!

CleverScorp 66 pts

I'm finally stepping out of lurker mode.  I love BB&W and have enjoyed my time "catching up" on the site- I wanna get in on the fun!  Jenn, I wanted to say that this was a wonderful and VERY well written article.  I checked out the link to Dr.West and Watkins' 'commentary' and was absolutely horrified about their critique of MHP.  Seriously?!?  Drawing a parallel between her and an an African dictator?  A bit much I'd say.  But does it not clearly outline the inherent sexism in the BC that so many are afraid to speak out loud?  Makes me want to ask them "why you mad, bruh?"  Why can't they be supportive and proud of this accomplished woman?  SMH.  Same with Bey- I think she is a great example of a BW who has had to change a whole heck of a lot to find a level of cross-over acceptance.  It's not our imaginations.  As someone who has pushed my way into a lot of crooked rooms in DC, I see what begets success and what begets not being taken seriously.  I haven't gone blonde yet...yet.   I'll just slip back over here into my ABW mode and tell Ms. Harris-Perry (and Beyonce for that matter)  to keep her shine going.    Sorry for the long post but it's my FIRST! 

JennMJack 1270 pts

 CleverScorp

 Great comments and welcome to the site!! I totally agree with your critique of West. I have been thinking about it for a few days now and it just strikes me as snooty and arrogant. West, whom I dearly respect, has poised himself as the HNIC. HE is the Black voice in political thought. And, MHP, being young, beautiful, female, and intelligent, to me, presents a challenge to his self-appointed position.

 

Beyonce is gorgeous and that will never change. But, she definitely has conformed, contorted, elongated, and stretched to fit the room around her. I can imagine that, in DC, you're front and center with scenarios like this. Thanks for commenting. Hope to see more from you:)

EarthJeff 3569 pts

 CleverScorp "I'm finally stepping out of lurker mode."

Welcome ... lurking is OK if that is your comfort level, but we value your input!

violalove 141 pts

Amazingly, I've had this book on my Amazon wish list, I haven't gotten it yet. But your post totally nailed it, especially having to "tilt" in other social arenas where we're constantly having to adjust.  I felt exactly the same way you do - it wasn't until two or three years ago where I realized the only person I need to please is myself, and I need to stop "acting" for anyone. 

JennMJack 1270 pts

 violaloveRight, for me, it has been a long journey to self that culminated just in this year. MHP's book, I think, she be read by all BW. Everyone could benefit from it but BW especially. It really is about authenticity. Thanks for the comments:)

 
BlackGirlNerds 44 pts

Jenn I absolutely love this post and now I have to go on Amazon and download that book ASAP!  MHP and your commentary is absolutely right!  We suffer from our "tilting" in the "crooked room".  I also believe it goes beyond physical appearance as you articulated wonderfully in your piece.  I believe what I personally refer to as "wearing social masks" is what many of us have done for centuries to stay in alignment with the status quo.  What I mean is, we try to fit within the confines of a world that chooses to define us in a specific way to suit the needs and acceptance of others.  It took me a long time (not until I hit my 30s) that I realized I was not being my authentic self in the world.  That I was living a life of trying to be somebody I was not, just because society said it was "cool".  It wasn't until I endured a season of solitude (I moved out on my own with no roommates, no live-in boyfriend, and lived alone) that I was actually able to find myself.  

 

This can overflow into so many areas of our lives the idea of solitude.  I think that the "crooked room" theory applied to external influences in our environment that dictate how we should walk, talk, speak, act, etc.  A human being cannot truly know who they are until they have learned to live and love themselves by themselves.  That's part of the reason why I created my blog because I wanted to put out to the world that I am proud of who I am and I don't care what society thinks about that.  

 

Thank you for posting this and I'll be sure to get that book.  There may be more interesting content that I may still need to learn in this process of growth.

 

Huggz N Luvz

J.

 

 

 

JennMJack 1270 pts

 BlackGirlNerds

 Thanks so much. It is a wonderful read. I will probably post about it a few more times because this scarcely does the book justice. What you are discussing with the "social masks" lends itself to the next installment of this commentary which reveals some of the "characters" BW are taught to play. Stay tuned!

Brenda55 20915 pts moderator

 BlackGirlNerds 

 

Here is the link to the blog. Check her out.

http://blackgirlnerdy.blogspot.com/

Sunshine789 752 pts

Awesome! I cannot wait to read this book!

 

On another note, it doesn't seem like Beyonce did much to her appearance other than get a blonde weave - which is not that big of a deal, since most adult women dye their hair at some point, and almost all professional actresses wear weaves to protect their hair. It seems implied in the article that she may have bleached her skin, but it looks the same to me, other than professional lighting and makeup. Just seems like a bad example for the article. But maybe I am missing something?

JennMJack 1270 pts

 Sunshine789

 Its funny you mentioned that because I was just looking at the pictures and wondering if it fully articulated my point. What I was attempting to hint at was the subtle changes made over an extremely long period of time which lend themselves to this theory of the crooked room. It would take a lot more pictures to show. But, if you've followed her style, demeanor, fashion, and presentation over the years, her makeup palette has lightened, her eyes have lightened, her blonde tresses have lightened/lengthened/straightened and changed in texture/hue, her body shape has changed (emphasis on different physical features than before), and her media coverage has changed.

 

Though some of that is attributable to increased stardom, it is the messaging to girls and women that I am focused on as opposed to her rationales for doing so. She used to wear natural styles regularly but now, when she wears them, it is a media scoop (i.e."look at Beyonce in Box Braids!!") The old Beyonce was just a hometown girl from Texas with a slight accent. She ate KFC and played in fire hydrants. So, it is her pretense that makes her the prime example for the article.

 

Taken on the whole (incl. the fact that she was chosen as the most beautiful woman in the world this year), her symbolic presence contributes to the crooked messaging relayed to Black women. Let me know if that explains it. I agree that it takes a lot more to fully flesh it out though. That's for part two. Thanks for the comments.

Sunshine789 752 pts

 JennMJack I totally get where you were going with it, and I agree spot-on with all of the rest of your article. Now I personally have not followed Beyonce's career from since she started, so I admit I am likely missing a bit - such as I did not notice the lighter contacts. Playing "devils advocate" I guess my concern is that when a black star makes certain fashion choices we are quick to label it some sort of self-image issue, rather than the reality of what it is (as I see it) - making it in showbiz.

It seems a little too close to the accusations of "trying to act white" that we faced as children for studying or speaking articulately. I do some acting, and there are few caucasian actresses that wear their hair curly or textured. Straight is the preferred look. Lots of them are Latina and Jewish and other various hertiage that do not naturally have bone-straight hair, but no one is implying that they are emotionally crippled by society because of it. All actresses have to have impossibly perfect figures and perfect hair and skin. I feel that issue is more about the pressures on women, not just back women. I am just concerned that sometimes we focus too much on the pathology, and do not spend enough time celebrating the achievements.

Despite Beyonce's blonde hair, contacts and "brighter" looks, to me she still is distinctly black, has a full-figure and retains a bit of a "black" accent, yet is widely regarded as a sex symbol and would likely get major movie roles (if she could act worth a damn anyway...lol!) What I am saying is that she has done her part to bring black women into the mainstream of beauty. When I was a kid, I was excited to see a black woman on a tampon or laxative commercial, and now little kids have Beyonce and Michelle Obama.The room is still crooked, but I feel it is less-so now. Okay, I lost focus towards the end... rambling...not sure what my point was...sorry it was a long day:)

JennMJack 1270 pts

 Sunshine789

 Agreed. The angle of the room is a bit less acute.And Beyonce and Michelle O have a major influence on that. I would say Michelle O more than Beyonce. And, I would agree that it is dangerous to jump to pathology.

 

But, there is something you said that I think underscores what the book is getting at.

 

"Playing "devils advocate" I guess my concern is that when a black star makes certain fashion choices we are quick to label it some sort of self-image issue, rather than the reality of what it is (as I see it) - making it in showbiz."

 

Making it in showbiz...that's my point. Certain body images, features, etc. are stylized as necessary to "make it in showbiz" while others are seen as unsavory or unwanted. The book gets into this in greater detail but it outlines how the Black female figure (exaggerated backside, fuller lips, kinkier hair, and shapely frame) has been historically de-feminized or over sexed or used in facetious humor. Instead of being a symbol of beauty, the Black female frame has been used as a "Do Not Enter" disclaimer. Bigger behinds, in the media, are linked with sexual prowess (the Jezebel). Fuller figures are linked with homeliness and lack of sexual appeal (the Mammy). Kinky hair has been linked with anger and militance (the Sapphire).

 

I will definitely touch on these things in a future post or two. But, really, Beyonce is a prime example of how the room itself has dictated what success looks like.

DeepWater 2519 pts

 Sunshine789  JennMJack  Spot on, Sunshine789, spot on.

Sunshine789 752 pts

 JennMJack I completely agree with what you are saying about diverse figures not being welcome in showbiz, and the stereotypes (mammy, jezebel etc..) associated with them. My point is that I feel that those issues are problems with society-at-large and not an indicator of a black woman having self-esteem issues should she choose to play in that arena.

 

There are many career choices that are image-restrictive like modeling or gymnastics or any competitive sports. I don't think we would be saying that an athlete has self-esteem issues because he spends all day in the gym and restricts his diet.

 

I agree that dark skin and kinky hair should be more represented and celebrated by the media. I just think the road there is to lift up all our black women who are paving that road, brick by brick. I agree that Michelle Obama is even closer to that goal because she is shrouded in respectability and is not a sex object. However, I don't want black women feeling like we cant be sex objects because of the Jezebel, or angry because of the Sapphire or motherly because of the Mammy.

 

I am worried that we do so much self-introspection, that we begin to take the burden off of the rest of society who needs to grow change more than we do. I understand what you were getting at by saying  "Beyonce is a prime example of how the room itself has dictated what success looks like." but I don't think that Beyonce going super-natural and emphasizing her "blackness" to make a political statement and ostracizing herself from the industry is going to help.

 

I think what helps is when the Beyonces and Oprahs of the world go out and make a gazillion dollars, and then start their own entertainment companies. Oprah has a TV network now and can get an all-black cast movie made when she wants. Tyler Perry (issues about his movies aside) is putting more black actors on the big screen. And Beyonce is a sex object to men of all colors who may have never previously considered a black woman sexy.

 

I just want the call to action from the "crooked room" to be to push society to straighten the room, rather than having black women internalize that we are broken inside. That is what bugs me about the ever-popular Beyonce haters. I think her choice to do what all of the other actresses do to make a buck is a savvy business choice. Economic spending power is the only thing strong enough to change the skewed perspectives of the industry, so I want to see more of that in the hands of Black women. I am keeping it real daily wearing my natural. Let Beyonce go work that weave and give a bunch of little girls, light or dark, the idea that they can do it. Jennifer Hudson, Viola Davis and Octavia Spencer are all inching their way up. The next generation of dark-skinned little girls will produce a superstar because they all put a brick in the road for them.

JennMJack 1270 pts

 Sunshine789 Just to be clear, I think we agree. The article does not say that women have self-esteem issues. Instead  it says that society projects images that are in discord with BW's natural propensity to exist.  While some women choose to ignore said imaging and pave their own way (like the women you mentioned and India.Arie for example), many others conform. Hence the example of Beyonce. This is not an ad hominem evaluation of Beyonce. She is uniquely positioned because of her global status and universally accepted beauty. As a black woman, I am sure we can draw major dissimilarities between she and Halle Berry who is the only other Black "Most Beautiful Woman in the World" in the last decade.

 

What kind of messaging does that send BW and BGs? That is the crux of the article.

 

I think this is a subject-argument disagreement issue. The subject of this analysis is BW. Not Beyonce. She is an example but not the focus. The argument is that society generates images that are crooked. And, though the images may never straighten, the proposition here is that rather than conforming (like Beyonce did for whatever  legitimate or illegitimate reasons), BW should be their authentic selves in any room society thrusts them into.

EnJay 907 pts

 JennMJack  Sunshine789 Just finding this post (late, I know), and I LOVE IT!  You're going to make me buy that book. ;o)

 

I think a great example of a woman changing to fit the crooked room would be Nicki Minaj.  Nobody paid attention to her when she was rapping and looked like this: http://www.madtownjamz.com/image/wjqm/UserFiles/Image/Nicki-Minaj%20broke%20look%20like%20a%20boy.jpg

 

But when she changed her physicality, and the topic of her lyrics, she blew up. 

http://cdn.rap-up.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/minaj-pink-friday.jpg

JennMJack 1270 pts

 NicoleJB  Sunshine789

 Exactly right. Whats funny about this is she changed to fit the crooked room. It has brought her great wealth and fame. And, now, she is being shamed because of her body and explicit nature. It is a disgusting cycle.

iHeartLove 805 pts

 Sunshine789 I've never been completely convinced about the skin lightning rumors about Beyonce...I don't know. She looks pretty light in that 9 year old picture to me.

JannaAshley 585 pts

@iHeartLove @Sunshine789 Yeah, I think people are making a stretch with those accusations. She's not dark-skinned to begin with, and after you factor in make-up, lighting, cameras, etc you can't really make an accurate judgment of that. But I definitely get why the author used Beyonce as an example.

JennMJack 1270 pts

 JannaAshley  iHeartLove  Sunshine789 I have no idea what she does or doesn't do to her skin. And, I make no accusations here. But, she has received major criticism for her make-up commercials and beauty shots for her "lightened" look. In magazine spreads, she is often retouched to be lighter than her natural complexion.

 

Here is more analysis of the Beyonce skin conversation: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2087388/Beyonc-white-skin-row-Controversial-photo-shows-singer-looking-shades-lighter-usual-tone.html.

 

The example is used specifically to note the subtle differences that send implicit messaging to BW and BGs about what beauty looks like.

 

For now, I will say that we should focus on the messaging rather than the artist herself.

Bren82 1394 pts

I'm reserving the book today from my local lib.

Toni_M 20048 pts moderator

 Bren82 I think I'll go this route myself. :)

TechDiva 11 pts

Jenna, I loved this post. As usual, your prose is insightful and well-researched. A lot of food for thought here.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

One of my favorite women, she's got an amazing perspective.

WriteToLive 78 pts

This is an excellent post. I really hope that we can figure out why people are discriminatory with their "bless yous". For something that is usually such a knee-jerk reaction, I can't fathom how someone could have the foresight to withhold that courtesy from certain individuals. How do you decide who to deem worthy?

 

The concept of the crooked room is completely mind blowing. It is so disorienting once you start to straighten yourself, but it is also incredibly freeing. And when you look back over your life and see how you've been contorting yourself, it's amazing.

 

I encourage everyone to truly analyze their different life situations and decide for themselves what is right or wrong. Take control over your life and live on your own terms.

Joyce345 1751 pts

This is such an excellent piece! Bw must remember that privilege is NEVER given up and rarely even acknowledged.

 

Sometimes you have to give yourself what you would have wanted someone else to give you.

JennMJack 1270 pts

 Joyce345

 Right. It is awkward when you realize that you are basically setting an example for yourself. But, in a way, each generation of BW has to recreate themselves. In the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and now, there have all been different images about what BW "should" be. And each time, BW have set out to redefine that for themselves.

Oaktown Paul 859 pts

Bravo.  I very much enjoyed reading this commentary.  Your words are insightful, eloquent and moving. Thank you for sharing. And though it may be too little too late, please allow me say "God Bless You!"  

JennMJack 1270 pts

 Oaktown Paul

 Thank you:)

AJ2011 2310 pts

I watched this video, http://youtu.be/blX2YHdqUJA, earlier this year. I remember thinking of how hostile this society is to black women relative to other groups and the images of black women that makes people the most comfortable (even other black women are guilty of this). 

 

One of the things I appreciate about Perry is her lack of victim narratives.

 

JennMJack 1270 pts

 AJ2011 I love this video. I watched it earlier this year as well. I agree that she stays away from the victim mentality and leans toward acknowledgement as power. Great comment:)

Shulamit 1986 pts

 JennMJack  AJ2011 She is amazing. I have loved her since the Pres election 2008.....

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iHeartLove 805 pts

 AJ2011 This video is awesome! It is an hour long and so worth it. 

Tish 170 pts

Regarding the statement:

"The crooked room tells us that ain’t nobody “all that.” And, even if they think they are, we can find something about them to get them back in their place."

 

Black women are notorious for this behavior. I have experienced this from a few extended family members to sistahs who are "just trying to keep it real." As I've gotten older, I no longer care what they think and if they try to "check" me, I am comfortable putting them in their place, I had to take that type of "abuse" when I was young, dumb, and naive. But now that I am older, wiser, and stronger, I will tell these type of women to go take a hike because I KNOW I look good and "yes" I am all that! LOL! I don't need validation from these types of women.

 

As the saying goes: "Hurt people hurt people." So, minimize contact with this DBR group of individuals.

JennMJack 1270 pts

 Tish Right. And, I think we've all been there at one time or another. Someone put us down so we thought it natural and okay to do the same to someone else. It is imagery that teaches us these poor, ill-conceived behaviors and then we just pass them along.

keimiasmoon 1073 pts

That book is going on my Kindle right now!

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  1. [...] mistaken. It will take at least four. In the first post, I commented on the notion of the “crooked room.” Briefly, it is the social phenomenon wherein Black women are placed in a proverbial room [...]

  2. [...] Citizen: Shame, Stereotypes, and Black Women in America: the Jezebel. The Jezebel was created in a crooked room of sorts and is one of the many stereotypes black women face in their daily [...]

  3. [...] to have little foundational basis. Not only that, she is the least talked about character in the crooked room we have all come to know and love. But, Harris-Perry notes the redounding wavelengths television [...]