Does Good Sex Matter…and If So How Much?

Does Good Sex Matter…and If So How Much?

How important is sex………..? And when does it become the deal breaker….?

Author : Tracy Renee Jones

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As the resident sex-pert and relationship voyeur I’m often asked questions about the birds, the bees and….sex among and between humans. I’m not saying that I’m some sorta Dr. Ruth, though I grew up during the era of her on the talk show circuit, all I can offer you IMHO, as most of my advice comes from a well lived past.

You’ll be happy to know that sex is good for your heart, your mind and your spirit, so they say. I was stoked to find that out since guys are, and have always been, so dam interesting, cute and seemingly all over the place.

I eagerly pursue men and happily participate in being pursued.

With all these flavors, types and sizes to try and to have, how could one refuse…?

To me…..men are like delictible morsels of goodness, just waiting to be plucked.

Blame it on hormonal makeup if you insist on having a reason why I love sex so much but I just do. Its just as important to my well being as is breathing and meditating.

A good sex partner is a blessing to have and to hold, I can attest to that.

However, not all men are created equal, so I’ve come to realize.

Nor is every woman enthusiastic about sex, or so I hear.

There are those guys that just draw me to them like a moth to a flame, and I look forward to getting to know them better at a later point in time, in the dark after we swap HIV results, and last names…maybe sooner. These things happen.

Sometimes you meet a person of the opposite sex and want to jump their bones on sight and even better than that are those instances where getting to actually know them better makes you want them even more.

I imagine myself a virgin (chile!), and head over heels in love with my hypothetical fiance (….he’s so  fine) eagerly awaiting the day when we can check into our Honeymoon suite as Mr. and Mrs. HisLastName and I can get my very first freak on.

One of the most disappointing things in life is that point in time when a man has done each and every thing proper and right, up until the point of him dropping his pants and joining me smack dab in the middle of the mattress for some natural body heat.

How would a woman feel to find out that her new groom (or new man, boo friend, whatever) is either unwilling or incapable of pleasing her in bed?

I’m curious to know if being a virgin help in this situation since she is expected to be sexually ignorant, therefore, any old smack and wiggle he offers her is presumed to be sufficient? It seems the women are expected to come to the marital bed with no prior knowledge of sex and sexual pleasure and for him to ‘lead’ her to this magical place.

What if his pony ride takes her to the mountaintop for an amazing view…? Chile..go you!!

What if he drops her at the garbage dump and tells her ‘every other woman liked his nifty recycling interests’ what’s wrong with her?

I’m not making a judgement for or against any person’s decision to have or not have sex, what I’m asking is how does sexual experience or ignorance play into those expectations of a partner’s performance in bed?

I mean, even when I was sexually immature I still had an opinion about what I did and did not like doing when it came to sexual interactions.

I had a list of sex acts I complied from research conducted using words I found in porn magazines, porn movies and in the human sexuality section of the local library…this was in the pre-Google days.

WHAT!? I liked to be well informed……I’m a curious Capricorn, sue me.

In time, and with more sex partners came the realization that I did not dislike certain things, rather the problem was that I didn’t like the person’s technique of said certain things. I learned that some guys had magic fingers, their touch just melts me in a way that I can only explain as hot liquid, or the opening scene in Girl With the Dragon Tattoo.

I found there are those men whose hands are rough, grabbing and awkward, as if they have never in their lives handled a gentle object. Their sense of touch is all things mechanical (not mechanics, men with dexterity are AWESOME!! I’m telling you!) and clumsy and the touching interaction resembles an eager toddler attempting to snatch up an unwilling house cat.

I love to kiss, and I love kissing those with full lips, however a man that’s too eager will nearly suck my entire face off. I’ve kissed men that were such poor kissers they nearly suffocated me because they were covering my nose and my mouth with their lip/sucking/slob combination. Though his lips came perfectly in handy for use with other body parts, something about the either/or-ness of his sexual skill menu made me want to eat elsewhere.

There are those men who jump from the bed just as soon as their done having sex with a woman. How wack is that to toss the sheets back to leave my damp butt cheeks exposed to cool air as I watch him scurry to the showers?

He’s skeeved out by our body fluids, sweat and my after glow, maybe. Who knows….but its weird to me.

This type of person feels ‘dirty’ after sex, for whatever reason…. its just not sexy and kills my whole vibe. I don’t come back for seconds.

There are those that aren’t interested in sex much. He and I, apparently, have NOTHING in common!

Those who aren’t interested in oral sex, anal sex or any other adjective in front of the word sex. Yawn………..I’ll pass, thanks.

There are those that want as much sex as they can get and those who believe sex is about the man getting pleased and the woman bearing children only. They scoff at a woman’s insistence that she be pleased in bed; he’ll whore shame her subtly to make her accept his remedial efforts.

There are selfish lovers who rush to the finish line as if they’re going to receive a metal once they collapse in a heap, physically spent after giving it all he’s got. Maybe pom-poms and a cheerleader outfit to liven things up…? Don’t forget to hurry up and do what you gotta do before he does what he just did when things were just getting good to you.

There are insecure lovers who are so busy worrying about how they compare to other men that they can’t help but to become distracted and disappointing. Remind me to tell you about the homo-erotic ones that are fixated on their perceived inferiority to the imaginary man in their head.

Self fulfilling prophecy….those guys. It’s kinda never really about you and he.

Some men can give you the best 45 seconds of sex you ever had in your life before suddenly falling victim to the ‘excitement’ (the typical excuse) of the moment.

You find that falsl victim each and every time he’s with you, he’s excited, after all. Aren’t you excited that he’s so excited? Hold tight to the feeling, won’t be much else available if you choose to marry this type of man.

During times like these batteries become a must have, and then he gets mad and feels insecure, but that’s another conversation entirely.

My bad.

There are many variations of kisses, rubs, hugs and caresses to have out here and some of those more boring ones belong to the nicest guys.

Such a pity, because I can’t deal with that, maybe you can though. They say there’s somebody for everybody, right!?

So I said all that to say………….Does good sex matter and if so how much…? Yeah, each person defines ‘what good sex is’ blah, blah, blah’, but once you decide WHAT GOOD SEX IS, does it then become the deal breaker or do you just settle for a lukewarm, or nonexistent sex life for the sake of the relationship?

Have you tried to settle for less than stellar sex from a partner? How did that work out for you, I”m curious…you poor thing.

This  isn’t just a question for the ladies, as I am well aware that there are women out there who leave their beds as cold as a well digger’s ass in December.

Let’s talk about it, ladies….fellas.

How important is sex………..? And when does it become the deal breaker….?

Do tell.

 

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MichaelD2013 12 pts

I admire women who can wait until marriage truly I do. In todays society it takes ALOT of will power to hold off unti marriage. In retrospect though do you want to wait to find out AFTER marriage that your not sexually compatible with your partner? It's a little too late after the fact to discover something that should have been explored before hand. There are many ways to enjoy each other without the "Final Act" and still explore those compatibility issues before you "Seal the Deal" for a lifetime commitment. That aside if BOTH partners are holding off until marriage you BOTH might be in for a world of disappointment if one of you doesn't have some "Previous Experience" to share with the other Lol. I'd recommend the "Karma Sutra" for EVERY newly married couple Lol. There is more to life then procreation and the "Standard Missionary Position" .. Laughs. I wouldn't trade in my experiences I've accumulated in life for "Holding Off Until Marriage" but I can respect those who do. I'd hope at least one partner has accumulated some "Sexual Experiences" for the couple or your 1st night together is going to be quite akward Lol. Just my 2 cents .. Smiles.

SirLoinDeBeef 2662 pts

 Brenda55 Multi-mega, honey ... multi-mega!

Shulamit 1986 pts

being a 36 year old and having my share of 'horrible' to ' I  just want to forget' sexual encounters, I must admit that sex is about 50% of the battle. Mental, emotional and intellectual stimulation are key but if we are not sexually compatible you might as well be my brother. Just saying..

My latest conversation: Entrepreneur Helen Douka, Art Nouveau

Pearl Rose 1182 pts

This actually confuses the hell out of me. I came here this morning and had a crying spell and left came back and I'm like wait.. what the hell! I don't know. It's tricky... I would hate to sleep with someone and not be satisfied like that. But I don't want to sleep with a lot of guys. But then I don't want to be stuck with 'terrible sex guy.' 

 

I wish there was some kind of way to know if they are good or not... but I would stick with smart men, smart men would know a lot about sex right? Or date a sexual therapist when I start dating? This stuff man.. 

SirLoinDeBeef 2662 pts

 Pearl Rose In a SiFi story I submitted, some years ago (dozens of rejections, so never published), I posited a space-based society, where people came and went frequently - thus, I described the 'duty pin' which announced--visually and electronically--when a person was on- or off duty, and, if off-duty, what kind of interaction they desired from others - ranging from no-holds-barred multiple companions to 'leave-me-alone'.

With regret, Pearl, such a 'device' remains in the realm of fiction - in 'reality,' we all must proceed 'By-Guess-&-By-Gawd,' because there isn't any better way.

Vet your man ... only to discover he's a clever liar ... but then uncover that he's a sensitive guy with lies as a cover ... yet, find out he puts his space-suit on one leg at a time, plus farts and belches ... yet will stand in the way of danger, to see you out of it - on and on.

You can see ... perhaps write ... your own variations.

Should I live that long, I would much like to read of your life 10 and 20 years into the future.

Welcome to the chaotic crazy house!

Pearl Rose 1182 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef I really have no idea where I would possibly be in 10 - 20 years. I'm noticing that I change my mind a lot and I can't stay interested on things for long periods of time. I remember I was so focused on politics 2 weeks ago and getting into it had bookmarks and everything... now.. I really don't care anymore. What if I'm that way in relationships? THAT scares me. 

 

I'd be vetting a man. He'll be vetting me. I honestly don't see the point in lying about anything, it's useless. And yeah overall he could probably be a good person it just makes me wonder is that something I could let go?

 

I think I cried this morning because I thought... Wow SEX another thing you have to worry about in relationship one more thing to the huge list of things to worry about. And I haven't even had sex or been in a relationship! I want everything to be perfect and it's so unrealistic. Sometimes yeah you have to settle.. I'd rather a truly good man.. with terrible sex. It's not impossible to learn and that's the good thing.

 

Yes it's crazy. Crazy crazy crazy.

Kiwiwriter 649 pts

 Pearl Rose  SirLoinDeBeef You have plenty of time.

Kiwiwriter 649 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef  Pearl Rose Also remember that guys might be pretty decent in spite of various flaws. Book and cover, you know.

Kiwiwriter 649 pts

 Pearl Rose Pearl, every relationship is a leap of faith...you have no idea what your partner will really be like. Men always put on the big act when they try to sweep a woman off her feet...it's what they turn into after that phase of the relationship is what counts.

 

My sister-in-law's cousin married a guy who told her on their honeymoon: "Now that we're married, I don't have to be nice to you any more." Six months later, they were divorced. You just have to learn about the guy.

SirLoinDeBeef 2662 pts

Virginity is an odd concept.

Basically a membrane that surrounds the vagina of most female mammals, it seems to serve a vestigal purpose, since the 'female animal's' health or well-being is not impaired with its loss.

It has been taken over as a multi-cultural symbol of long history (like the male foreskin), showing that said 'female animal' has or has not been penetrated by a male sexual organ.

As such a symbol, it has then been loaded with taboos ... indications of 'bloodlines' ... assurance of ancestry ... intactness (or not) serving a sense of 'purity'.

Then mix in religion ... perceived social power ... misplaced 'pride' and social superiority over an intact membrane ...rape of a virgin as conferring more 'power' on the man than of a non-virgin woman ... plus issues of women's control over their own bodies ...

Etc. ad infinitum et nauseum.

I see no societal solution to such weird perceptions.

I never expect to sexually interact with another virgin (thank Gawd!).

I do hold the man's viewpoint, that virgins are like 'leave-no-trace' campsites ... leave them better than you found them.

 

SirLoinDeBeef 2662 pts

Oops, almost forgot - add in the gynecologist's ability to remove virginity by 3-4 snips of the membrane under local anathesia - plus the current trend in Islamic countries to 'repair' the human hymen, prior to marriage (so the bloody sheets can be proudly and publically displayed).

Sheeeesh !!!

 

amiar10 362 pts

"How does sexual experience or ignorance play into those expectations of a partner’s performance in bed?" Well, I'm a virgin. My boyfriend is, as well. I'm 20, he's 21, and we plan on waiting until marriage. Honestly...we make up for no sex by being educated as hell. We read up on just about everything, including snafus we could run into our first time and how to fix them. So honestly...I'm not expecting the Fourth of July our first time, and neither is he. We just expect to learn and grow together and experience that whole ride together. Definitely looking forward to it :D

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@amiar10 It gets better w/ time, believe me it does.

Law Wanxi 5953 pts

Somewhat important, but not a deal breaker. 

 

 

DeepWater 2519 pts

 Law Wanxi   Love the photo, Law.  You look very handsome here.

Tish 170 pts

Without divulging my own personal details surrounding sex, I will say that some women are told and/or the unspoken messages conveyed when growing up surrounding sex are:

 

(1) Nice ladies who were raised properly keep their legs closed

(2) Only fast-tailed girls have sex before marriage

(3) You are to remain a virgin until marriage

(4) Sex is to be feared (i.e. you can get pregnant outside of marriage, you can get AIDS/HIV, herpes, etc.)

(5) Only nasty girls/women really enjoy and like sex

 

Speaking for myself, no WONDER Black Women have some f'ed-up notions surrounding sex! Here's the kicker that I NEVER understand: After you get married, it's okay to have all the sex you want and go totally buck-wild?! How are you supposed to do all of that when growing up all you here are the negative sexual messages that ultimately shape your sexuality as an adult??? No one talked to me about sex being about an expression of love and that it can be a beautiful thing. SMH...

Alana 2 394 pts

 Tish Exactly! After a lifetime of telling oneself  no and working on restraint, how is a person supposed to flip a switch? Some messages are for girls and not women. Also, these messages are more detrimental to obedient kids, as rebellious kids learn early on how to bend and break rules, and which ones are not worth bending or breaking. Adults need to know the nuances of rule-bending. The above list may hold a rebellious kid back a few days/weeks/or months, but an obedient kid years past adulthood.

 

In addition to being taught "no" is the importance of negotiating "yes."

Shulamit 1986 pts

 Alana 2  Tish CO and SIGN!!

My latest conversation: Entrepreneur Helen Douka, Art Nouveau

LaCocoaAngel 34 pts

****AHEM**** Coming from a virgin: Trust me, when the time comes, a lot of us will know A-game and, ahem, A-anatomy, when we see it!!!! ;) My virginity is something I do for me and my goals, not a man. I know a lot of virgins are said to be sexually ignorant and naive, but chile…….not this one! Being a virgin thus far has actually made me more aware of patriarchy, less prone to the bull-sh** offered by guys, and more in-tune with my own sexuality and confidence. I’m excited for the first time, but I’m still waiting for when it’s the right time :)

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@LaCocoaAngel I know a lot of really sexually aware and informed virgins. Many of whom are great lovers of the BOB. Virgins ain't ignant as ppl think.

tracyreneejones 4083 pts

 eugeniaberg   LaCocoaAngel I wonder what type of situation that might bring about, rather than being implied 'ignorant' you get a virgin who has an app for that along with expectations, videos, and blog posts to tell if the mate is or is not up to par..I'm so giggling at that concept. Great to know whose who remain chaste aren't down for the patriarchal okie doke. 

LaCocoaAngel 34 pts

 tracyreneejones  Hehe, I'm giggling too. I think it's a situation where you realize: "Hmm...I'm 20 years old and haven't had sex yet. Do I really wanna be 'the prototypical virgin chick' that men go for after they've done everything they wanted to do?" After asking that question you decide "No, I don't wanna be that chick". So, then what do you do? You make a conscious decision to never fall for the HYPE. You appreciate the value of choice, of women *wisely* choosing to be as sexually open or closed as they desire.

 
eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@LaCocoaAngel @tracyreneejones Best of all you gain some knowledge, that's a powerful thing. Lord, virgins w/ sexual knowledge, oh that's gonna turn stuff on its ear. Takes the power right outta dude's hands. That is a good thing.

somethingdifferent22 368 pts

 LaCocoaAngel  tracyreneejones AMEN good to hear of someone else in the same situation as me! I'm usually like, I've waited this long, why give in now, I want what I think I deserve and nothing less! :D (Plus why do so many guys see this as a challenge and then get mad when you don't put out?! Do they just want to believe they have the magic touch or something that will make me drop all of my standards and say YES TAKE ME HOW COULD I POSSIBLY WAIT WHEN YOU'RE SO IRRESISTIBLE and then proceed to rip their clothes off?? And they say us women are delusional or have unreal standards :/) 

Pearl Rose 1182 pts

 LaCocoaAngel I love you. Hands down.

LaCocoaAngel 34 pts

 eugeniaberg  Amen, chica! Pearl Rose Thanks girl :D With or without sex, I bet you are livin' the sex-actualized life as well!!!!!!!!! haha

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@LaCocoaAngel @Pearl Rose Well now I'm married and I'm getting lots of great sex. Nothing like loving with the love of your life.

Ms. Kay 428 pts

 ..."Blame it on hormonal makeup if you insist on having a reason why I love sex so much but I just do" [The older I get, my Sex Drive, Libido, Sex Goddess, whatever its called has gone into over drive. At one point I honestly thought something was wrong with me... #sigh]

 

..."A good sex partner is a blessing to have and to hold, I can attest to that".[Amen]

 

ASwirlGirl 3225 pts

Ok; this: " . . . the touching interaction resembles an eager toddler attempting to snatch up an unwilling house cat" had me FALLING. DOWN. LAUGHING. OUT. LOUD!

tracyreneejones 4083 pts

 ASwirlGirl HAHA......yeah, I'm referring to my dancing days, some men would  be shaking all types of money because they behaved like gorillas if you eff'd around and got too close. There is a group of men who are TOTALLY ignorant on how to interact with a woman. Nice guys, working men, eager to get married, want to please a woman but what she-barbarian will have them is my question. I've given men their money back....just so I could walk away. U gotta be wack as hell for a stripper to give you a refund!! 

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@tracyreneejones @ASwirlGirl Aww man, that kind of dude must be Unabomber weird.

diamondgal 431 pts

 tracyreneejones  ASwirlGirl You were a stripper?  Ah, that explains what guys pick up about you.  Nothing bad in that statement, but me are great for picking up primal vibes from women.

tracyreneejones 4083 pts

 diamondgal  ASwirlGirl That explains what guys pick up about me...... I'll take that as a 'compliment' but actually, I stripped to support my child by a worthless deadbeat. I come from a family of beautiful and fertile people, especially the women, and this did come in in handy, indeed. 

SirLoinDeBeef 2662 pts

 tracyreneejones  ASwirlGirl Ever in San Diego in the mid-60s?  Or in Houston, in the mid-80s?

Sigh!

tracyreneejones 4083 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef  ASwirlGirl I didn't exist in the mid-60's, and no Houston in the mid-80's. Now....the mid-90's....we can talk about that!! 

SirLoinDeBeef 2662 pts

 tracyreneejones  ASwirlGirl Oh, pleeeese, say that there's a publicity DVD out there, somewhere ...

Just askin' (Brenda knows).

Kiwiwriter 649 pts

I think a lot of men dream of meeting a girl who will say, "I've never done this before, but I'll show you exactly how."

 

But yes, good sex is definitely a central factor.

ChibiSayuri 79 pts

David and i's sex life is off the chart, and his a great lover and hell of a good sexer n good lord his tongue is magnificent lol, but sex is a great way of bonding and be intimate(well that's how we bond) so for a person who can't work it is a huge deal breaker to me. And this double standard shit of how women should be ignorant yo is BS and what bout the men they don't. Plus that's denying a woman her sexuality, women who live in the mentality....well good luck to you lol...like i said good sex is awesoe especially when it's with the one you love(which is the only sex i know bc chibi doesn't spread "it" around

SirLoinDeBeef 2662 pts

 ChibiSayuri I've heard a 'good man' described as one who can do push-ups with his tongue!

tracyreneejones 4083 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef  ChibiSayuri Chile.....but the tongue is only half the battle....

Karla 19182 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef Hmm, well at least they wouldn't have to worry about contracting a disease (the prostitutes and the Johns) since the androids would be made of bacterial/viral resistant material and would be "flushed" after every session.  Now what are the ethics associated with an android prostitute?  Is it considered cheating if you're married?  Could they be arrested since they're not considered human?  Would they, in fact, legalize prostitution?  Are they even "prostitutes" since they are machines?  And then it brings up the "I, Robot" factor.  What if one says "no"?  Does that mean "no"?

SirLoinDeBeef 2662 pts

 Karla Don't even think of the statutes against public masturbation with toys, or even the beastiality laws - complication ... OH GAWD !!!

SirLoinDeBeef 2662 pts

 Karla It just means analysis & re-programming.

Law Wanxi 5953 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef 

I imagine the Japanese will probably be first to market with this sort of thing, with production moved to the PRC. 

 

It would alter the male supply/demand curve somewhat. Any idea what the target demographic would be? I'm thinking Asian males, but I could be wrong. In any case, I smell money and lots of it.

SirLoinDeBeef 2662 pts

 Law Wanxi As do I ... there are silicone 'dolls' around that are lifelike to the n'th degree (just no movement, speech or cognition) - manufactured in Asia or Sweden, I believe - a recent movie was made about a guy (whom else!) having a mostly-mental affair with his fantasy girl - riding his 'doll' around on the back of a motorbike, in one scene.