Eve Finds Her “Adam” in an Unexpected Package Worth a ‘Maximillion’

Eve Finds Her “Adam” in an Unexpected Package Worth a ‘Maximillion’

The bloggosphere was abuzz with Eve’s apparent surprise at finding serious, deep, and lasting love with a white guy, while in virtually in the same breath complaining how it’s 2012 and people should stop making such a big deal about interracial relationships.

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Woke up this morning with my inbox full of folks wanting my take on the big news that celebrity Eve is swirled up pretty serious with her British boo, Maximillion (or should be call him, Maxibillion?). Geez, that’s some name, huh?

The bloggosphere was abuzz with Eve’s apparent surprise at finding serious, deep, and lasting love with a white guy, while in virtually in the same breath complaining how it’s 2012 and people should stop making such a big deal about interracial relationships.

On People Having an Issue With Her Dating a White Guy
I need them to stop [caring about interracial dating]. What year is it? Like, stop. Seriously. Trust me, I gotta say, it is weird for me that I’m with a white dude. Trust me. I look at him sometimes and I’m like, ‘You are so white.’ Seriously! Yes, I gotta be real like that. I’m the first black girl he’s ever been with, so we are learning. Trust me, he’s been through ‘Weave 101.’ I’ve been out on a date but not like this, not like my dude. I had to tell my mom and my step-dad who still thinks he follows Farrakhan. It’s crazy. We learn a lot about each other but people came at me like, ‘I can’t believe you’re dating a white dude and you don’t like black dudes no more.’ I’m like, ‘I love black men, it just so happens that my heart went this way right now.’ Who knows? I’m happy…My family’s happy. [My pops] is cool. He still keeps calling him ‘my friend.’ [He says], ‘How’s your friend?’ Like, it’s been almost three years.

People came at me. Now it’s better, like when I started sending pictures or people started seeing pictures on Twitter, people really came at me hard, but now it’s fine. Like I said, I do look at him like, I can’t believe I’m with a white dude. I don’t let him dance. I tell him, ‘Look like a pimp, I will dance around you.’ He can do a lot of things, but he can’t dance.

Read more here.

The Black Woman’s Dilemma

Therein, my dears, in plain view of everyone, lies the soul-wrenching dilemma black women in American face when they think about, act on, and pursue interracial relationships. It’s also the reason why I wrote SWIRLING. Yes, in 2012, MOST people can love folks of another race without most folks blinking an eye. But not so for black women. It is beat into our psyches almost from birth that no man, except a black man can legitimately appreciate our non-Western-ideal beauty, and any man of any other race (including and especially white men) should be viewed with rabid suspicion and subjected to paying the “white boy tax” in which he will have to jump through hoops, have a degree in African studies, self-flagellate in pittance for his privileged birth, and be absolutely gorgeous, because why else would you date a white guy unless he looked like Brad Pitt in his glory days?  And if he’s ugly or even just average, he BETTER have a lot of money. In other words, the GAT-DL demands a REASON for why a black woman would want to date interracially. Has she dated all the plumbers, FedEx delivery guys and felons FIRST before she decided to “play in the snow?” Does she need to be partially left deaf in one ear by Wesley Snipes before it’s okay to “go white?” Basically…yeah.

Such ideas are ground into our minds so far that we end up being more shocked that anyone around us when we find ourselves in an interracial relationship. Many of us are shocked, simply because we’ve been told that no non-black man would be caught dead in public with us. Some of us are shocked because we have always pictured ourselves coupled and married to black men because that’s what we truly believe is all that is available to us.

So yes, Eve, it’s 2012. But for many black women swirling for the first time, it might as well be 1912–at least in their own mind and the self-imposed limitations they put upon themselves.

And then there’s the plethora of blogs dedicated to discouraging black women from acting upon all their dating options. Here’s their central arguments: Only a teeny-tiny number of black women actually will find white mates because non-black men mostly find black women disgusting; only black women who look white are appealing to white men (but, why not just date a white woman? That logic fails these idiots);  interracial marriage between white men and black women are such a small number as to not be counted and, “NEE-NER NEE-NER NEE-NER” black men do it twice as much and non-black women and black women d*ck ride us, so THERE!!; and never mind that black men swirl twice as much, only black women are sell outs when they swirl. You’d be shocked and surprised at how many black women internalize these messages, which is the point of why these psychopaths establish those blogs anyway.

The good news? It may be 2012, but only for another month. Things are getting better for us everyday.

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PaigeinPhilly 306 pts

"Has she dated all the plumbers, FedEx delivery guys and felons FIRST before she decided to “play in the snow?” Does she need to be partially left deaf in one ear by Wesley Snipes before it’s okay to “go white?” Basically…yeah."

 

Brilliant.

KinkyBottleBlonde00 211 pts

Honestly, I'm happy for Eve. She has that lovey-dovey glow that is often absent in publications about people's relationships. The race of her bf is irrelevant to me: he could be black, Asian, any nationality, hell, she could be in a same-sex relationship for all I care. I'm just glad that for once, a black woman is just happy and loved and not in some dysfunctional state. There is so much coverage about black women being beaten, cheated on, peed on, skeeted on, losing their sanity and livelihood b/c of the influence of the wrong type of relationships they forge, yet with all of that, there seems to be more outrage at a black woman being in love and loved in return than there is about the afforementioned situations. I don't know which is the issue: the fact that people are upset about her relatiinship with someone who is not black, or the fact that people are more upset at depicting a black woman who isn't burdened and suffering in a whirlwind of drama and tragedy.

MsPeridot 31 pts

 KinkyBottleBlonde00 BINGO @ "not in a dysfunctional state". And that's what people can't get over. They would rather see her in and out of the blogs chasing a black baller who is blatantly cheating on her with anything exotic that walks than be stress free elsewhere. Hopefully Eve is wise enough to recognize it for what it is and forget it.

greengirl7 330 pts

Anon

“BM have felt emasculated by WM in this country for hundreds of years.  They were brought here in bondage and it took a WM to free them.  Not being able to free yourselves and remaining at the bottom of the social power 150 years later is unimaginably damaging to the male psyche. “

 

[21st century corrections for the chronologically challenged]

No BM alive was brought here in bondage.

No BM alive experienced slavery.

No BM alive was freed by WM.

No BM alive lived through 150 years of oppression.

And a BM is at the top of the social power structure: his name is “Barack Obama”. Don’t believe me? Try turning the TV to C… N… N…

 

“Men are supposed to be the providers and the protectors of their people and they failed at these duties.”

 

And let me guess who gets the blame for that? De ebil WM.

 

It’s amazing how they manage to be everywhere at once: they’re in the corporate world and colleges crushing BM’s hopes and dreams, time traveling to whip and emasculate BM, waiting for a BM to earn a crumb so they can come and slap it out of their hand, and *still* find time to mind control BM into abandoning their children. Wow, kind of makes you want to be an ebil WM yourself, doesn’t it?

 

“For all their bluster and arrogance in today’s music and sports, BM have mostly felt inferior and powerless.   The amount of resentment they feel towards WM is strong, and that’s before they see him out with one of “their” women.”

 

BM go around harassing BW on the street, calling IR dating BW traitors, sell-outs, self-hating, white men’s wh*res;  BW/WM couples have even been brutally assaulted by BM.

And there are still people telling BW to feel sorry for BM, with the same  

“The poor, sweet, innocent BM are being stepped on by the cruel, slave-owning WM” nonsense.

thecrazyartist 2243 pts

 greengirl7

 Excellent post, the slavery argument is tired and played out.

Blackberry 1177 pts

"...should be viewed with rabid suspicion and subjected to paying the “white boy tax” in which he will have to jump through hoops, have a degree in African studies, self-flagellate in pittance for his privileged birth, and be absolutely gorgeous, because why else would you date a white guy unless he looked like Brad Pitt in his glory days?  And if he’s ugly or even just average, he BETTER have a lot of money..." Classic! This is why is love this site!

dani-BBW 1787 pts

Oh wow, I skimmed this yesterday and thought it was Ev-A, as in Eva Pigford. But it's actually Eve, the rapper. I wondered where she's been. I'm glad she's happy!

 

*******

 

I too second a weekly Scandal thread!

 

SPOILER ALERT: STOP READING!!

 

#WHOSHOTFITZ?????????????????????????????????

Brenda55 19648 pts moderator

 dani-BBW 

SPOILER  ALERT.  STOP READING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The shooter will be revealed next week which tells me that the who is not as important as the who hired him or her....... if indees someone hires hin or her. The speculation on the blogs is running wild. You will see more of this shooting than you can stand so get what ever you need to prevent hyperventelation because we are going to see  FAPOTUS get it from all angles.

 

What idiot shoot up s a hunk like that I have no idea? Not telling about people. ( Fitz took four rounds BTW)

****************************************************************************

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This next is a word of advice I got from some one who has read scripts 8 through 11. Advice I am taking.

 

Episode 8 is supposed to be off the chain. It is a flashback.   If you want the full effect ########STOP READING THE SPOILERS AND TRY NOT TO LOOK AT THE PROMOS.########

Same goes for 9 which is presant day. 

 

In episode 8 a lot of answers will be answered including why Liv left the White House.

Yes there will be A LOT of OLITZ HALF NEKKED LOVING. 

 

I am adding my voice to the call for a Scandal thread on BB&W. True there are a lot of blogs out there handling this but the fact that at the root of this show is a BW/WM relationship begs that  our unique perspective be heard. 

 

Needless to say I will GLADLY Mod this. 

 

dani-BBW 1787 pts

 Brenda55 LOL, I just realized now that I've changed my avi it's ONE gigantic spoiler! I can help with the Scandal thread. I don't have cable but I have an OTA so that's how I watch on Thursdays live. I am usually tweeting with my friends anyway so it would be more fun to all do it together on this site dedicated to the kind of BW Olivia Pope is. 

 

BTW - I did not watch the first season but ordered it from my library. It just came in! That is my fun for the weekend, catching up on the campaign and whole buncha other stuff from before I started watching!

Brenda55 19648 pts moderator

 dani-BBW Leave the Avatar. I think its cool.

 

Re. Season one.  You will love episode 6. 

dani-BBW 1787 pts

 Brenda55 My. goodness. 

"Well let's be inappropriate."

"Say my name."

"Fitz..."

"Take off your clothes."

 

*passes out after having watched Episode 6 at least 20 times*

DarlingNikki69 318 pts

 dani-BBW

 

I'm side eyeing Melli's ass......I think she had something to do with it...JMO

 

DeepWater 2464 pts

 DarlingNikki69  dani-BBW   I do too, DarlingNikki69.   The wife hesitated getting out of the limo, somethin' tells me she has something to do with it.

PaigeinPhilly 306 pts

 dani-BBW  FITZ!!!!!!...ok, im cool now...returning back to our regularly scheduled thread.

BWWithOtherBrothers 421 pts

She's been with him for YEARS that is nothing new the news is she is a pending babymama which doesn't impress me one bit since she was blabbing in the press June 2012 about how much she wanted to be a wife but is now with child and not married just another babymama-to-be. No cyber babyshower here.

Brenda55 19648 pts moderator

 BWWithOtherBrothers 

Looks like he is planning to wife her up.  Better hurry. BTW this will be her first and his fifth. Somebody's boys can sure swim.

 

http://www.hiphopworld.com/rapper-eve-pregnant/

BWWithOtherBrothers 421 pts

 Brenda55 I'm so tired of rich BW not getting a wedding ring and being babymamas at least Naomi is not preg by the Russian. Planning to wife and being married are two different things he's had years to marry her and to me she looks like a fool.

Maxine 1005 pts

 BWWithOtherBrothers  Brenda55 Have the pregnancy rumors been verified?  Or just tabloid gossip?  He's been married before so I hope that means he is commitment-minded toward Eve.

 

KingsDaughter 4671 pts

 BWWithOtherBrothers His fifth?? Oy!

Skayi 514 pts

Eve you don't have to explain ANYTHING!!! Just love you and your man.

somethingdifferent22 354 pts

:D The pictures of them just made me go awwwwww. I hate that whole disclaimer thing too :/ It's even more awkward for me because I've never even been attracted to a bm so I usually just ignore the comment and tell them I like who I like, end of story. Eve looks GOOD :D can't wait to see the wedding pictures <3 (And that end comment about him not being able to dance made me giggle for a solid 10 minutes)

Mimi_Love 220 pts

 somethingdifferent22  eve does look good and shes happy! =D. when im asked that infamous question i don't even explain, why waste my breathe?

valeriesmith15 136 pts

Eve has always dated white men.  She has to date and be with someone who suits her and I agree why do black women have to explain themselves, black men date marry whoever and nothing is said.  I'm glad, she is very happy and good for her. 

Eve’s trying way too hard to make people understand.  Her “it’s 2012” argument falls flat because the issue is much deeper than that.

 

BM have felt emasculated by WM in this country for hundreds of years.  They were brought here in bondage and it took a WM to free them.  Not being able to free yourselves and remaining at the bottom of the social power structure 150 years later is unimaginably damaging to the male psyche. 

 

Men are supposed to be the providers and the protectors of their people and they failed at these duties.  For all their bluster and arrogance in today’s music and sports, BM have mostly felt inferior and powerless.   The amount of resentment they feel towards WM is strong, and that’s before they see him out with one of “their” women. 

 

BM and women understand very well why a woman like Eve would want to date a white billionaire (a powerful man).  There is no explanation necessary.   They will always resent it and no amount of logic will change the way they feel about it. 

 

If you choose to date or marry a WM, be prepared for the fact that you will probably be resented by BM your entire life.  You can choose to care or not, but you are just wasting energy trying to reason with them by saying that you just chose the WM for his character.   

 

 

 

VintageNarcissa 3151 pts

Anyone who wants to resent a black woman for trying to live her best life possible can go right ahead and do so. They are not affecting her life in any way, more often than not they are probably a stranger. So at the end of the day, they are just bringing negativity into their own lives and making things bad for them. 

 

Why don't you tell those people they are wasting their energy resenting people who are just trying to be happy. I mean, you're honestly doing nothing but beating a dead horse over here as well. Because no amount of resentment is going to stop the women here from choosing IR for dating, relationships and marriage. And I'm guessing, after 3 years, no amount of it is going to stop Eve either. 

 

MadamCJCPA 1125 pts

Just how long are black men going to beat that "slavery" dead horse for THEIR own personal failures, in THEIR own personal lives?

 

Just like I could give a flying rat's @$$ about who or whom a black man is dating or married too, I expect the same disinterest and indifference to be given to me and mine.  

VintageNarcissa 3151 pts

This is what I'm saying! Black men are constantly crying about how white men hold them back, MEANWHILE they are bedding and wife'ing white women left and right and *attempting* to rub it in black womens' faces and throwing us under the bus at any given chance. Yet when black women are expanding their own choices, and simply trying live their lives, to we have to hear sob stories about how black men feel inferior to white men.

 

Get the HELL out of here with that BS. 

 

Like Katt Williams said about people complaining about other messing up their self esteem, how am I gonna affect how you feel about *you,* you simple *****? 

 

It's nothing but black men coming onto sites like this, "reminding" black women about how undesirable we are and now inferior we are to non black women, or "warning" us that we just have to sick and take it.

 

Yet they just can't handle it that some black women realize that they do not have to adhere to this, and more so,  we're actually supposed to care? I. Think. NOT! 

 

Us black woman who are worth our weight in gold know exactly our history, we know exactly the state of society in which we live, we just don't see that as a complete hinderance, merely a roadblock that can easily be knocked over with enough work. Some of us even see no road block at all, we just roll with the punches and aim for the best regardless of the situation.

 

It is absolutely not our fault that certain black men do not see the benefit of letting go of these issues and truly focusing on their best interest, not just the money, status and trophy wives. 

 

I really don't understand how we can have an African American leader of the free world, who is dealing with the BS that certain white men are slinging at him on a daily basis, the racism, the blatant disrespect, yet he deals with it all with dignity and grace. And guess what, white men tried to hold him back, yet he is still the leader of the free world, almost effortlessly. 

 

At this point they really have no excuses. 

 

*Step your game UP, or sit the HECK down, SHUT your mouth and just let the black women (that you SAY you don't want anyway) be happy.*

DWB 7640 pts

 VintageNarcissa "Black men are constantly crying about how white men hold them back..."

 

I think that one of the bloggers @ Very Smart Brothas expressed it best the reason that so many BM's chase after WW when he said that some BM's are always looking for a way to stick it to the man, and since he is often unavailable, his daughter will suffice... :-)

VintageNarcissa 3151 pts

 DWB Yeah, I've heard that argument. It's still very sad.

Mimi_Love 220 pts

 MadamCJCPA  yep! and the second a black women does what she feels is right for her....its like its agains some "law" smh.

Brenda55 19648 pts moderator

Anon.  I'll buy that. Don't care and don't reason with the people who don't like my choice.

Seenyc 786 pts

Resentment is like taking poison and hoping the other person will die. Your dead and the other person is skippity-do-da on thier way enjoying thier life.

onmywayup 1799 pts

That's why I'll never try to explain away any relationship I have, with "it's 2012," "I love my black men," or anything else.  My relationship is my business.  Period.  I don't really care who resents me for it.

 

While I think it is a shame that some people have given up, that has nothing to do with me.  That's cold, but I have spent enough of my life being brought down by people with poverty/limited mindsets.

Mimi_Love 220 pts

 onthewaydown  its funny how bw and bm start the sentence with "my bm/bw". we don't own another person....how can someone or vast majority of people be yours when you have not met half of them?  the "my bm/bw"  thing is funny to me.

Browncow 1441 pts

Oh yeah, and BTW, Max may not know how to dance, but I bet he has rhythm when and where it counts. She's getting her toes curled up by this man, make no mistake.

Browncow 1441 pts

I also hate the disclaimer "I love black men, but" that so often escape Black women's lips when talking about their relationship with a non-black man. It's like you're apologizing for being in love with another human being. To me, it's a bit disrespectful of the man you're with because you love them in spite of the fact that they're not black. "Oh, I know you're white, but I love you anyway". I hate that. No explanation is needed.

 

For example, "Do you hate black men?", "Did you just give up on black men?", "Why are you with a white (insert ethnic group here) man?"

 

Answer: "I like men. Period. I'm with "Rick" because he makes me laugh, has good family values, and is an upstanding type of guy. We have a lot in common and have the best conversations. He's a good man."

 

No, "I love black men, but", or trying to back peddle and almost apologize for being with him. He's a great guy. He's an individual. So are you. You like men. Period. Full stop. No other explanation needed. Let's shut down this crap. I've been asked at least two of the above questions, and that's how I answer and have answered. No apology for liking who I like or anything of the sort. It just is. Can BW stop apologizing for loving who they love or having a preference for non-BM?

 

In my opinion, the people asking these questions are almost looking for the same type of lame excuses that a number of BM give for likeing/loving non-BW. The "I'm with a WW because BW are (you fill in the blank)". It's never about the wonderful qualities that the WW is bringing to the table. "She's sweet", "I like her smile", "She has a great sense of humor", "We have a lot in common". It's only about what BW are lacking which is the reason they want the non-BW and not just the person they're with. That is also disrespectful of the non-BW because the only thing she has that those types of BM want is not being Black. **Disclaimer: I know that this is not the case with ALL BM coupled with non-BW, but this is the pervasive theme among many.** So you have people who are looking for you to speak ill of BM when it isn't even about them for many of us, but about the man we're with. Many of us did not put BM into consideration when making our choice of mate. We just chose a man we clicked with. It really is that simple. So let's stop apologizing for this. I never have, and I never will. When more of us do this, it will be looked upon highly and better than starting with the disclaimer and apology to all BM everywhere for dating/loving/marrying a non-BM (especially a WM).

JannaAshley 583 pts

 Browncow 

 

Amen! It's so true that people are looking to hear some excuse about what BM lack, instead of what drew you to the individual person you're with. I'm with my bf because of who he is, not because of who he is not. Guess that's why so many BM get their feelings hurt seeing a BW with any other race of men lol.

Browncow 1441 pts

 JannaAshley "Guess that's why so many BM get their feelings hurt seeing a BW with any other race of men lol."

 

Exactly. You have men who think that you're with a non-BM because of BM, not because the man you're with is freaking awesome all by himself and you're genuinely attracted to him and he to you. It's like they can't believe that not only are you finding this man to be attractive, it's also a "the secret is out. WM and other non-BM like BW and will marry them. I better shout louder to the rest of the BM that these men don't want them or we're going to have to actually work for these women's attention". It's so transparent it's ridiculous.

arlette81 203 pts

 Browncow omg i also hate that "oh but i still love black men" comment.  i just do not understand why black women feel like they have to justify being with a white guy. 

IAOSingleMoms 879 pts

 Browncow High Five to that! I'm getting very tired of even talking about why we have our dating preferences. We need to quit explaining and apologizing and just do and lead by example. We really are beating a dead horse.

Mimi_Love 220 pts

 ShunJack  Browncow  DITTO!  its crazy cause most  women who is not black are not questioned on who they are with, but we are.

Brenda55 19648 pts moderator

Browncow

I liked your post. One thing really stands out however. The first one is this:

 

“For example, "Do you hate black men?", "Did you just give up on black men?", "Why are you with a white (insert ethnic group here) man?"

 

Answer: "I like men. Period. I'm with "Rick" because he makes me laugh, has good family values, and is an upstanding type of guy. We have a lot in common and have the best conversations. He's a good man."

 

 

I'm with Rick..... Yes. You are with one particular individual and not a group. The GAT-DL want to dehumanize your spouse/boyfriend/what have you by speaking about them not as an individual but part of a group. That way they can assign all grievances they have against the group onto your spouse/boyfriend/what have you. That is straight out of the bigot hand book.

KinkyBottleBlonde00 211 pts

@Browncow THIS!!!! Hearing people put a disclaimer over something personal probably does more to propogate these stereotypes about IR than to stop them. It was why it took going to a therapist to realize that who I liked was not even a problem! I was a Daddy's girl raised in a 2-parent home, and I am close to my 2 brothers and I have nothing but love for my male friends of all races (which include black guys of different nationalities, a couple of them American). That said, I don't check for black men, b/c they just don't do it for me. I look at them the way I'd look at Gisele Bundchen: attractive, yes, but my nether regions aren't bothered, my neck is not going to break, much less make the effort to cast an initial gaze. I posted all this to say that sometimes, it's really not about race, or gender wars. For me, at its most superficial is the biology of what initially turns me on, and at its deepest is the chemistry of the shared sparks between me and the beloved SO. So, see: not always about black men.

KingsDaughter 4671 pts

She moves to her own beat! Good for her!

VintageNarcissa 3151 pts

It really concerns me that so many black women always put that, 'oh I love black men, but ...' disclaimer when they start dating IR, or that they feel the need to... It's like, some can never stop apologizing for trying to be happy.

 

Other than that, photos of Eve with her man were some of the first that I saw when I first started visiting IR websites. It's really nice to know that they are still together. 

JannaAshley 583 pts

 VintageNarcissa 

 

I HATE that disclaimer! Like, why do you need to proclaim your "love" of ANY man that is not your own? Happy I've never felt the need to explain my  romantic choices to anyone.

 

Before seeing this, I didn't know anything about Eve dating anybody. If they're happy I hope they stay together and ignore the ignorance/hate.

BeautyIAM 1290 pts

So, I decided to peruse  through clutch mag after not being there for a while and lo and behold they did post this story about Eve. Read a few of the comments and had to laugh at the on chick that told people to stop checking for "haters" because no one is checking for their IR in 2012. Uhhhhhhhhhh Please! IR topics are obviously bait topics because everybody and their mama has an opinion on it. It hits a soft spot for many people. Yes, there are still "haters" of BW in IR in 2012. 

 

A black woman can't even put up a video about her up coming nuptials to a white guy without someone saying something. A youtuber I follow, Chescaleigh, posted a video with her fiance about getting married. She said that her hubby decided to not show up in videos anymore due to the amount of harassment they got when he first appeared in one of her videos. 

 

When people talk about being harassed because of our IR, its real. I don't know why some people want to be blind to the fact that IR are still very problematic for many people, especially black women depending on where they live. People are not making up haters. 

Christelyn 8886 pts moderator

 BeautyIAM "I don't know why some people want to be blind to the fact that IR are still very problematic for many people, especially black women depending on where they live. People are not making up haters."

 

It's abusive gaslighting at its best. Abuse someone, and when they react, tell them didn't didn't see what they just saw.