Evia Is Right: “DBR” Comes in All Colors, Shapes and Sizes.

Evia Is Right: “DBR” Comes in All Colors, Shapes and Sizes.

Some guys just don’t make the cut.

Author : Christelyn Karazin

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Evia is the QUEEN of vetting, which DOES not have ANYTHING to do with veterinarians, but EVERYTHING to do with knowing how to choose a quality mate. You can also call this “fielding,” which I do on a light basis when I present the “Hottie of the Week” for your consumption every Sunday whenever after sleeping in until after 9:30. Because I’m pressed to spend the dough for a background check, I still have to include the disclaimer: Don’t come crying to me if he kills you.

I won’t lie. First thing I do is check the visuals. I found one yummy looking guy on Sunday who happens to be a Facebook fan of the page, and I thought…whoo hoo! low hanging fruit. Then I go in. I scan his profile, make sure he has a job, if he has kids, anything else I can glean. After they pass the initial smell test, I send them a private message, ask them if they’re single, but not for me, but for someone else. A bunch of “someones” actually. Sometimes they don’t believe me, so I send a link to “Hotties” past.

This particular guy had a beautiful bi-racial daughter, so I attempted to bond over our kids. I quickly found out he and his black baby mama were together for seven years, but never married. He says she wasn’t happy, so she left. (Just a thought but, maybe she “wasn’t happy” because she’s been witch-cho arse for seven years without a marriage. But I’m just guessing). As if that wasn’t enought, he then tells me he has a one-year-old son by another woman, who he is NOT with, never married. I asked him why this relationship resolved, and he gave me a flim-flamy excuse. He also added this little doozy: he didn’t have any pictures of his son because he was “waiting for them to come in.” REALLY? Pictures take 15 months to develop? What a maroon.

You know what’s ironic? He told me he was looking for a marriage-minded partner. BWAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HA! Sorry dude. I won’t be helping you find your next she-dummy.

It’s always good to learn about vetting not related to veterinarians, so read Evia’s blog. I’m in the process of fielding a book, Stuck With Mr. Wrong: Ten Steps to Starring in you own Life Story, and I’m sure there’s something in there that co-signs me skipping Mr. Multiple Baby Daddy.

But take heart! I found another, even YUMMIER looking guy who has no kids, a job, and is going places. Stay tuned; you’ll meet him soon.

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When I started back dating at the age of 37, I was a little nervous about my prospects. I was older, the men were older and there was a good chance I'd met a lot of dudes with kids OOW or from a divorce. But I was a woman that didn't want to deal with children, my own or anyone else's. Although I love children, I've never felt any compelling need to be a mama but I love being an Aunt. Many men I met were older with older kids or younger kids and if it was OOW or divorced they had some bitter stories about the mom. Now first and foremost I would never date a man that talked badly about the mother of his children, heck she was good enough to lay down with and get pregnant don't dog her to me b/c that may mean you'll be dogging me to somebody else in the future. But yes, a man with multiple children by multiple women, yea right. I had a friend of a friend helping me with a website, he was blk guy and he call his self liking me but I was give it up, not only did he have 5 kids by three baby moms none of whom he'd married, he'd also been in rehab for alcoholism, twice and he was living with a friend mom's sleeping on her couch b/c he couldn't afford an apt. Really, that is not screaming let us date, I was shocked. I guess he figured I was 'ride or die' bw but I'm not that desperate or that crazy. His little feelings was hurt when I started dating Matt but I'm looking out for me, not you. I had come out of a marriage with fool wm, I was not getting stuck with fool bm, wm, am, or hm. I'd learned my lesson and was not planning on repeating it.

Agreed with the DBR coming in all colors. I am taking an online dating break for awhile. Maybe the paid sites are better?
Thanks for the great stories :)

Back when I was online dating, Match sent me a profile of a man who had 5 children. The problem was his martial status said "Never Been Married". Really? And to make matters worse, one of his profile pictures was of him holding an infant/newborn. I couldn't hit the delete button fast enough!

Yes I got the damaged beyond repair memo. Yes white men arent black women saviours and yes character over colour is all that matters. When I was growing up I heard all the good things about my white greatgrandfather and taught that he was what I wanted to have in a relationship. My mix race white and black grandfather was the bees kness because he left a legacy for my mother and his grandchildren. Was I naive to think that all white men were like that? I was just stupid. Firstly the man has to have a high standard, secondly he should love you, thirdly he should be with you all the days of your life in sickness and in health. If he cant do that for you then run a mile. Thank the living god I didnt have children out of wedlock because that would be another kettle of fish. No binding factor to contend with.

After reading your description of the process you use to vet the “Hottie of the Week”, it occurred to me that you vet those guys more than most women vet potential mates, or at least dates. Not enough to weed out potential psychopaths, hence your disclaimer, but enough to eliminate the obvious losers. Keep up the good work!

marrying a man who has multiple kids with different women means you may find yourself paying his child support at some point. I'ma be honest... I just can't see myself doing that. My hard earned money going out of my pocket just cause dude didn't want to use protection.

Not only that, you're children will suffer as well because your resources will be going to pay for this man's OOW children. When I was looking for a husband, I just couldn't get with anybody with kids. No way. I didn't have any, so I didn't want for my prospective husband to have any either. It would simply take away from my own children when I was ready and call me selfish, but I was not about to sacrifice my children's future.

Browncow:

Again, you are very wise. As someone who made the mistake of marrying a man with children, I would advise any young woman without children against marrying a man with children. It is a headache and one which will evidentually make one's head explode. Sure, it'll seem fine and doable in the beginning but after the honeymoon is over reality will set in with all of the acoutrements (child support, et al) and, one may ask - what the he*l did I get myself into? This is especially true when the baby mama drama sets in which is generally after a few weeks into the marriage. Your new marriage will become very crowded quickly.

So, young ladies without children - think long and hard before saying 'I do' with a man with children, especially one with multiple kids from different mamas. Your life with this kind of fellow will be a HOT MESS!

Browncow,

I totally agree. I get people who look at me crazy when I say that I do not wish to give a man with children a chance at love and marrige with me because I feel that those OOW children will take away valuable resources from my children and I do not want the drama that invitably comes with dealing with the mother of those children.
I dont want my children to have to admit to having half siblings. It reflects poorly on their father, and the rest of us.

You are not selfish to think about yourself and your future children. Although I do not prefer men with children, a quality man has a chance with me if he has enough resources to enable the two of us to have a comfortable life together after he provides for his children.

So I guess he would have to be very upper class or wealthy because children are expensive (college tuition!) and I can't expect a man to not provide for his offspring.

Many men feel the same as you regarding women with children. They don't want a woman with children because they don't want their resources going to support another man's children.

So BW should keep this in mind when they are having sex with a man who is not their husband: a child is a turnoff to many quality men of any race.

We often read stories on the BWE blogs of BW who married quality white men who happily took on the responsibility of a child or children who were not their own, but I hope most BW don't think that is the rule.

Unless a man has a lot of resources, he is sensible to avoid a woman with children. Women of other races seem to understand that even one child OOW greatly reduces their chances of marrying a good man. Many BW become concerned about finding a quality mate only after they become baby mamas and are faced with the financial and emotional challenges of raising a child alone.

Browncow,

You aren't selfish at all, you're rasonable in this regard. Having children with a man is serious bussiness. The man a woman chooses to have children with is the most important discession a woman makes. More important than what type of job she has, what schools she attends and where she chooses to buy a house.

Did you see what happened to Layila Ali? That's a prime example of the bad that can happen when a man has children with another woman coming back to bite the new wife in the butt.

Well thank you and all the ladies who don't think I'm selfish. I'm a very happy woman because I made that choice and I have a wonderful husband and two gorgeous little boys. I don't have to share with anybody and that's the best thing.

oh yeah...
DBR's come in all shades..
i remember the following dialogue that i had with a girl back in the 90's. we were discussing those guys who looked attractive to us...or something along those lines. i used a more discriminating tatic when this is what the girl said:

"You know nothing about men,________."(keep in mind her cycle was 3 months LATE.)

my response( as i turned around to look straight at her, with a stone-cold look in my eyes): "I know enough about men NOT to get knocked up by any of them. AND YOUR EXCUSE IS?"

i then proceed to pick up her face off the floor and hand it to her as she was suffering from a severe case of S.O.T.B.

S.O.T.B.= Sperm On The Brain.

In essence, she thought that because she had sex with these DBR's,she knew more about them that i did.

...Also that puppy is cute. <3

I do think this needs to be reiterated to a number of women who use IR dating to "escape" BM under the misguided impression that the only DBR's they have to worry about are the black ones, or who unfortunately will date DBR non-BM because they have "street cred" of some kind and feel it's the most acceptable step to take when dating out.

A DBR is a DBR is a DBR, and regardless of their race or ethnicity, this is someone you do not want as a mate, and should avoid at all costs.

Coming out of self imposed lurk mode...

ALL OF THIS... It doesn't matter what so-called race or ethnicity a man is if you're choosing DBRBM and you don't know how to vet, you'll be choosing DBRWM as well. DBR comes in all shapes, sizes, and colors. Changing the color of the man won't do a thing if you haven't changed how you vet men. IR dating/marriage is not a panacea. Just because he isn't black doesn't mean he can't be a hot mess. The point of IR dating advocacy is about opening your options so that you can secure a quality mate no matter the color. Increasing the odds that you'll find a quality mate from the buffet of men. Not running away from BM or overlooking the flaws of non-BM because you want to date IR. Rest assured, you'll be tired of dealing with crappy rainbeaus as well, and then where will you be? I believe that Christelyn puts it very nicely when she says "character over color".

Browncow:

Truly you have spoken words of wisdom!! It is not the color of a person but rather it is the character that counts. It doesn't matter what a person says; watch what they do as Evia so wisely proclaims.

Thank you

I was once crazy about this guy who had 3 kids by three different women. He acted like a complete a-hole towards me. Some time later he finally started to come around but thank the sweet baby Jesus I had finally come to my senses--and wasn't as lonely--so I told him to take a hike. I realized that being baby momma (or wife) to a man with that much baggage--baby mommas, 3 kids, 3 different child support orders--would have made me old and haggard before my time. And the saddest part was that he was slightly younger than me, in his mid 20's. Thank God I dodged that bullet.

Talk about a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Funny. I was up late last night reading Evia's blog. She is witty informative and easy to read, best of all what she says is right-on. I reread her, Zabeth, this site, Betty Chambers and Deborah Cooper-all add value to BW.

What's the link to Evia blog

thanks in advance.

The first word in the copy, "Evia" is hyperlinked. Just click it and you're there!

Thanks Chris! How did I miss that lol.

This was my first post :)

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