Globalization and the Call to Save Black Boys: Will it Work?

Globalization and the Call to Save Black Boys: Will it Work?

Brenda breaks down how globalization affects the outcomes of black urban boys.

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In the article that Jamila posted below titled:

You Mean They Have a Name for That?! A Scientific Look at Why Blackistan Exists

I posted the following series of articles written by Richard C. Longworth.

Richard Longworth is a Senior Fellow at The Chicago Council on Global Affairs. He is the author of Caught in the Middle: America’s Heartland in the Age of Globalism, now out in paperback (Bloomsbury USA). He is a longtime editor and foreign correspondent for the Chicago Tribune and United Press International, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, twice an Overseas Press Club Award winner, and a Nieman Fellow at Harvard. More important, he is an Iowa native and is a recognized expert and frequent speaker on the Midwest and its place in a globalizing world.

Part One

Part Two

Part Three

Part Four

Take a look at the program:

It is about African American males.  Granted once again we have a report that totally ignores black girls.  Girls who are living in the same conditions as the boys and are not doing much better as far as life outcome. The girls we know  have the over lay of harassment and sexual abuse and exploitation to contend with.  Black boys act out, Black girls suffer in silence.  The squeaky wheel get the oil which is why reports like the one posted above have the slant that they do and why spaces like this one and others exist to fill in the gaps when it comes to discussions of black woman’s and girl’s issues.   No the girls were not the focus of this report.

That is not why I am posting it.
The  program highlights graphically what we here talk about. Despite what the deniers  and those not wanting dirty laundry exposed the issues are well documented. 

 In a sense you see that black women cannot fix any of this dysfunction alone.  It is huge.
The film offers an illustration of just how huge it is. Read the articles that I posted however and then view the film through the filter of what you have just read. You will see why I am not at all optimistic for the future of most poor black communities.

The people in the film are talking about the US being competitive in the world economy and that improving the lot of young black males is key to this.  Really.  Knowing that  because of globalization, there is no will for the movers and shakers to make the US competitive, what chance do you think there is that there will ever be a “new civil rights fight”  to save black boys?  
There will, in my opinion, be no effective government intervention large enough and comprehensive enough to lick this.

 Am I saying write these young men off?  No, but one has to realize that there has to be a much different prescription  than looking for big government or a ground swell of social consciousness to get the job done.  What about Social services?  Changes in the criminal justice system? What?  In a time where the mantra is “no new taxes” “don’t tax the rich” how does this get paid for?  On top of that add the fact that other communities are becoming incredibly stressed because of globalization and will be more interested in saving their own sons.

Having said all of this we cannot forget our daughters. The conditions that are affecting our sons affect them also.  In my opinion there will be no new civil rights fight for them either.

So what is a black women to do?

Not be silenced.

Not add to the problem.

Form strong families with quality men, black and non-black..

Escaping from Blackistan. 
In a word everything that the original BWE bloggers have out lined should be the focus of black women.

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Why does one play lifesaver when one can barely swim? Black boys' fate is sad but I wasn't born to enable their lives. Charity begins at home and it begins with self. Once my needs are met, I might be vested in rescuing someone else from their poor choices.

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NewMaya3 357 pts

 Kia

 Exactly!  That is why the uplifting of black men is of no concern to me.  Their wealth goes  elsewhere.....

VictoriaAntoine 436 pts

 NewMaya3  Kia  I agree with the whole nine yards. I dont care about their wealth... They are not helping black men in the community. Why would care about a successful black men and their wealth is spended on their non black wife/girlfriend.

 

<<<<<<<<<<<<This person dont care about the black men and their problem its choice to live the way you wanted and I dont care about the black community at all.

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NewMaya3 357 pts

 Kia

 Even the black men that become successful - For some of them, its a goal to become rich and successful and marry non black women. Kobe Bryant, Tiger woods, Ice T & Coco. Their money does not go back to the black community.I

 

I had a black man tell me that he was amazed at how black women get excited for black atheletes when they get contracts.

AJ2011 2310 pts

 

Janks Morton put together a presentaton called "10 Days of Black Truth" earlier this year. In it he uses data from the Dept of Education to showcase a low drop out rate and increasing education attainment among black boys and young black men.

http://whatblackmenthink.com/10-days-of-black-truths/

 

Black Boys Report came out with a summary this year as well highlighting the lack of education attainment in 38 states using the National Center of Education statistics and Dept of Education.

http://blackboysreport.org/national-summary

 

Which is it?

 

I copied this a while ago from a post on topix. I'll search for the poster later.

 

"I don't have an opinion on the "state" of black men, I leave that for you guys to hash out and when it comes to how black men are raised-here is something no one wants to say: black men reward bad behavior in other black men. Black men also reward bad behavior in black women. Do you think black men who do decide to engage in illegal or anti-social behavior would do so if there wasn't a support system that not only removed their accountability but validated their manhood? Do you think young black women would engage in high risk sexual behavior if they were rewarded with attention? Their mothers (and their fathers) can do their best but as long as bad behavior is rewarded and these images of bad behavior are promoted with black male dollars it doesn't matter. Btw children develop an idea of social norms and offences by age 10, no matter their environment or familial status. This observation was made in a study to prove that blacks were in fact not inferior to other racial groups for disputing findings from iq testing."

 

 

 

 

 

Brenda55 19334 pts moderator

 AJ2011 Thanks for posting.  I will work through both of theses sites shortly.

 

What I can say is this and it is something that is very clearly demonstrated in the film I posted. There is so much that being placed on the shoulders of a group of women, single mothers that are living their lives perpetually exhausted.

 

The young women featured in the film is only 24. Thats right 24 years old. She has limited education and limited tools to work with.  Look at her, look at her life. She is doing the best she can to deal with the choice she made, the same one her mother made and most of the women around her have made.  I cannot demonize a women like that. Too many of us can and that includes their sons who will blame their every failures on mom and extend these attitudes to the women that they go on to interact with as they grow into adulthood. Women like ourselves who are now expected to form relationships with these men and build lives with them.

 

Mom is there day to day exhausted and doing the best she can.  Absent dad on the other hand is that guy the kid searches for to get answers.  Why aren't you there? Why don't you want me? What did I do wrong? What did mom do the chase you away?  Only rarely is the question why kind of a jerk are you that you left us like this?  So once again the men get a pass.

 

 Women get the blame because  they are there doing the heavy lifting that all too often falls short. This is about survival and not really about living. If that is the case, if you really are damned if you do and damned if you don't then a woman does well to put herself first and cut the best deal out there for herself.

 

The days when the government and all manner of social service agencies being there to pick up the slack of absent dads is fast coming to an end. The articles that I posted above explain why. Sure there are success stories. Too few truth be told.  For the wealthy woman single motherhood may be an option, she can buy the assistance she needs. The rest of us are not her.  That is why BWE bloggers say things like "Date out or die out and that the most important decision that a women can make is who she marries and who the father of her children will be. 

 

 

 

AJ2011 2310 pts

 Brenda55 

That young lady was in her prime and to be honest I don't expect a teenage boy to be a good father. Even though they know right from wrong they, and the girls they get with, have no clue what they're doing. I don't know any men who became fathers at such a young age so in this case I do have to look at the mothers and smh. Usually there is a grandmother there to help but she and her sister didn't even have that AND also taking take if their sister.

 

But its like a Borg in the BC isn't it? Now I;ve never been a accused of acting white or being uppity. But when I've heard the jokes and adult men and to be fair women talk black teens out of goals they deem as too high for a black kid.

 

I included the paragraph from topix because of what the young man said about boys calling him a nerd and not caring until the girls started calling hima nerd. He and those girls were just keeping the status quo because I bet my fave brooch thos egirls would've been lined up if his peers expressed any admiration for his academic achievement. Then again black girls aren't taught to enjoy their individuality and we could all do better there. I have a cousin who is 15, gorgeous and I make sure to support the interests she has including photography and reading old books. Her brother likes to cook things he sees on the foodnetwork and we support that too.

 

But what does it say about us, as black adults, when a teen boy sees being a rapper or athelete as something more accessible than going to college, starting a business, or even going to the military? My uncle supports a family of three very comfortably on a mid 5 fig salary. How many of us think something that simple is accessible?

MadamCJCPA 1125 pts

http://youtu.be/vdVsrVBE8z8  <--- WATCH THIS COMMERCIAL.

 

This website has the right idea, notice their mantra "WHEN GIRLS SUCCEED, SO DOES SOCIETY."

 

http://www.togetherthere.org/ <--- TO GET HER THERE!!  Sponsored by the Girl Scouts of America.

 

As a former scout myself (for 3 years), I loved it, and no the emphasis was not all about the cookies then.

EmilySpring 286 pts

Your community dies WHEN YOU DO NOT TAKE CARE OF YOUR GIRLS. THE GIRL EFFECT, dammit!

 

The boys are just going to use the system "the funneling of resources to males" just to take them OUT of the community.  Women reinvest in their families, sons and daughters, these men, when given support, take that support and use it as a status symbol while ignoring or defaming the community that supported him.  THE GIRL EFFECT - WE NEED TO CATCH OUR GIRLS BEFORE ADOLESCENCE AND FOCUS ON THEIR WELL-BEING THE wAY THE BOYS ARE BEING FOCUSED ON NOW SO WE MIGHT "GROW" FUTURE HEALTHY MOTHERS WHO WILL EVENTUALLY RAISE THE NEXT GENERATION OF HEALTHY GIRLS AND BOYS.  THE PITFALLS OF SINGLE MOTHERHOOD ARE NO MATCH FOR EDUCATION AND THE BLACK WOMAN'S DEDICATION TO HER COMMUNITY.. 

 

WE talk about single motherhood as if it is the defining factor regarding the likelyhood of sucess for our kids, but isn't the real defining factor the educational level of the single mother?  If I were single, and popped out a baby, I already know, what the path to "success" (defined for me as stability in spirit, family, love of humanity and peace of mind) for my child will be, and I will have the means to make it happen.  They are getting baby massage, I will focus hard on bonding, I will have her/him exposed  to multiple languages and cultures, they she/he will go to great schools, she/he will be spiritually grounded, he/she will learn to care for others.... GROW HEALTHY GIRLS INTO HEALTHY MOTHERS AND THEY WILL BE ABLE TO RE-ESTABLISH A HEALTHY COMMUNITY.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e8xgF0JtVg

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfB5giecehM&feature=relmfu

 

 

EmilySpring 286 pts

CARE U.S.A - UNLOCKING THE POWER OF WOMEN

 

"Dr. Helene Gayle, CEO and president of CARE, discusses the challenges women and girls face in our world today. Ending poverty means eliminating gender discrimination and empowering women and girls to realize their potential. Find out more about CARE's work by visiting http://www.care.org"

 

WE HAVE THE SOLUTION, BUT A COMMUNITY, OF MEN AND WOMEN, WHO DON'T WANT TO ALIENATE THOSE WHO ARE ONLY MAKING THINGS WORSE.  GIRLS ARE THE SOLUTION TO FIXING PROBLEM AT HOME. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZCTdKPv7o8&feature=relmfu

onmywayup 1738 pts

 EmilySpring Omg! We women (and girls) are the key to a major solution! I love this! Thanks for the videos.

Brenda55 19334 pts moderator

 EmilySpring Emily. Would you like to write an article for the site on this subject?

EmilySpring 286 pts

 Brenda55  I am a little hysterical aren't I.  I am still in activist mode after the Russell Simmons/Lil'Reese debacle.  Okay.  I will try to write something less hysterical and more substantive to submit to BYBW for your review.  If it does not  meet the criteria of the site, I will absolutely understand it not getting posted.  Hopefully it, if I am able to deliver, will be to BYBW's standards.  Thank you for the vote of confidence.  I will see what I can do.

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 EmilySpring  Oh my goodness thank you so much for posting these videos! I freaking cried when I seen these! I seen you had posted them up before and didn't click on them I'm so happy I did now!

EmilySpring 286 pts

 astringofpearls  I'm so glad.  It was so powerful for me when I first saw the videos, too.

starzzzy 429 pts

 EmilySpring I have seen the girl effect pushed in third world countries, but not in America at all. A healthy educated mother makes for healthier educated kids. Although I would love to see more Black women married, that doesn't mean single motherhood disappears completely. The world is not perfect, and  we already have a lot of single moms and we will probably have more, we need to figure out a way to empower women and show them that having a child is not the end of their dreams. We also need to show our girls how to dream! 

MercedesHasLeftTheBuilding 1060 pts

Thanks for putting up the info and articles, Brenda...really insightful...at this point, Black women need to save themselves (and their children if there are any)  FIRST..bottom line..second, in the documentary, about one male named Darius..in my opinion, he DODGED  A BULLET (in more ways than one) by having that case against him dropped...if he doesn't get out of that toxic swamp with the chance he's been given, there may not be a next time.

 

i'm saying this in a clinical, detached, matter-of-fact way.

keimiasmoon 1034 pts

You've come to the same conclusion I have. While focusing on boys is great (and certainly helps the girls with whom they interact), at this point, it's a little too late. I'm not saying not to do anything, I'm saying prepare not to even be alive to see any positive results. When I was younger I used to be optimistic, but not anymore. That high school graduation rate is tragic, and it's going to have severe effects later down the road. Outlook: Bleak. Especially when you try to tell folks how to do the right thing and get shouted down with a myriad of excuses (case in point NWNW).  My strategy to folks is to jump ship. Get out while you can. 

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 keimiasmoon  Black boys and men have been getting all these documentaries, marches, movies, and PSAs about how things affect them. But no significant improvements have happened.. what else do they need? Even gang programs and television programs to help them. 

 

I do wonder if black women had all of these programs and help (in a girls perspective) would they be doing better?

EmilySpring 286 pts

 astringofpearls  keimiasmoon  The community would be doing 100% better, but if all those programs were focused on girls and women, Black w\men would be protesting.  Soledad O'Brien would be doing programs on the "Invisible Black Boy", and what not.  The only way for us to progress is to focus on girls... there is no other way, but at the same time, the focus on girls will be seen, by the men. as a declaration of war on their manhood and they will do everything they can to make illegitimate the cause towards girls and women to the point of derailing it, but we're supposed to sit down while they get resources, gain greater status, and treat us like crap.We have to focus on girls.  No doubting that, but we will be in for a fight, from Black males who don't think we deserve any considerations...ever.

EmilySpring 286 pts

 astringofpearls  keimiasmoon 

Typo

*Black men would be protesting

Toni_M 18798 pts moderator

 EmilySpring  astringofpearls  keimiasmoon When a ship is sinking, the standard cry is "women and children first". These persons will beat women and children down so they can be the first on the life boats.

 

That says all that needs to be said as to the legitimacy of their claims. Anyone with good sense isn't being bowled over. I feel sorry for anyone that is.

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 EmilySpring  keimiasmoon 

Well I'm in for it. I'm tired of all this crap. All of this and you do no better? I mean program after program after program! Not to even sound like a bitch (sometimes you have to), but to me all of that is a waste on what could have been amazing for black girls. I'm actually very optimistic about  black girls in these situations. I'm actually extremely optimistic sometimes, although *some* of these girls make me completely sick, I'm still optimistic. Not to say all of this to forget BB, but it's been a long time for BG and women to get their programs and help and chance to live a good life. 

 

If SOB ever does a program about the "Invisible Black Boy" I will... you have no idea. I will give her numeral counterexamples to that! I mean.. I know everybody has seen all of those telivsion programs about black men and boys that ONLY focus on them. The only time they mention black women is when they say "We have to be their for one another." 

 

Right after the the president was elected TV One had a special that only focused on BOYS.

EmilySpring 286 pts

 astringofpearls  You're right, though, you don't even sound like the b-word.  We are always concerned about our boys and men, so he idea of focusing on girls is really about focusing on "the group", because girls and women would never let the boys fall behind.  We create organizations , we "intervene" on their behalf, we advocate for them... the thing is, when the males are given the resources, not one group is created for girls, not one group is created to appreciate the women who sacrificed for them... nothing.  That is why we can't go wrong with girls, we just have to go hard because they, some black males and their apologist women, will try to block the efforts and then use their successful blocking as ways to prove that the programs for girls were not effective.

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 EmilySpring YES, YES, YES!!! Exactly!

NewMaya3 357 pts

 EmilySpring  astringofpearls

 And everyone in the world knows that when they grow up and have resources, they will place them at the feet of women of other races anyway.  Black women rarely benefit when black men are uplifted.

zipporah 1714 pts

 Toni_M  EmilySpring  astringofpearls  keimiasmoon This happened at Katrina too; and other ships that sank today---the last ship that sank, i think more women than men died in Italy--it seems that people use to  treasure motherhood. Many dont care today IMO

zipporah 1714 pts

 astringofpearls  EmilySpring  keimiasmoon Like i said months ago--the term WOMEN & MINORITIES sounds like ONLY black men and white women---not black women--i never did like that term for this reason

zipporah 1714 pts

 NewMaya3  EmilySpring  astringofpearls I think in the late 60s when they tried to uplift the BM, they thought it would trickle down to BW. I remember those days...they thought BM would use it and get married to BW  i guess

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 zipporah  EmilySpring  keimiasmoon 

That's what it sounds like to me also. smh.. 

NewMaya3 357 pts

 zipporah        

 Men in other communities treasure motherhood.  White women teach their sons to honor white womanhood also.

NewMaya3 357 pts

 zipporah  EmilySpring  astringofpearls

 I talk to black women who still think that uplifting black men uplifts black women.  That is not the case.  I have a male friend who knows some very powerful black men who have an underground brotherhood (not fraternity) and he was telling me about it.  It did not move me because I have enough sense to know that black men having power means nothing for black women.  Once black women accept that and grieve and move on they will be better off.

Toni_M 18798 pts moderator

 keimiasmoon I'm with you.

Criticalthinker 385 pts

May I add: If the new norm to be successful in a non-American global economy is to be a top performer (in your field), have an exclusive niche in your business that no one can emulate or copy and you are coming out of an educational system and environment that is built on failure and you can't even compete with those who are in your country (Which is not even in the top globally in education compared to Finland, Germany, Switzerland, Sweden, Japan, etc.)  there is a situation abound in which we can no longer afford to look the other way and be "silent".

 

*The sentence may be run on, but I had to get it out. It's a situation close to my heart*

AshleyFisher 390 pts

I didn't read or watch a thing. But as the new campaigns that have started to roll out say (started by the lovely Hillary Clinton of course) save the girls, save the world. How can we better ourselves when the most immediate teachers for ALL children are at a disadvantage? Almost all children will be raised by their mother and if their most is disenfranchised doesn't it stand to reason that the kids will be too? This is why the education of girls are important. Because we pass on the knowledge to everyone behind us. 

Criticalthinker 385 pts

Brenda, thanks for sharing in the education of a much needed topic. Your last four sentences are powerful. it sums it up wonderfully.

Law Wanxi 5786 pts

Great post! 

 

Normally, given the subject matter, I'd expect 100+ comments. However, there's a lot of work required to understand this post [reading the articles, watching the vid] so my expectations are lowered. I'm downgrading my forecast of a firestorm to a blustering controversy of about 70 comments, with a light chance of trolls....

 

...Now, here's Kimberly with the traffic!

 

[Thanks, Wanxi! The 405 is thinning out as the commute closes, but the San Diego still has some slowdowns. A multi-car fender-bender in Santa Monica is starting to back things up and ......]

Law Wanxi 5786 pts

Thirty-six comments and I had predicted seventy.

 

I guess people got lured away by the Sexy Boyz Not Having Sex [until marriage] post. Or maybe the now-daily Hate the Guns and Oil Party screed (this time about reproductive rights). Whatever.

 

So, I guess I can understand why so few people read and commented on some non-Sex, non-celebrity trash post. After all, it's only about a subject that is and will continue to be the foremost issue in American Society, once it gets out of denial. At least it didn't lose out to Rhianna and Chris. Well probably only because there wasn't one of those posts. 

 

The people who did the hard work and commented here are some of our actual best and brightest and they should post more. They've discovered there's more to life than getting laid and pointless partisan politics. So, tip of the hat to those who put in the effort required to comment on Brenda55 's well-researched post here. 

 

Good thing nobody will read this, LOL. End.

Brenda55 19334 pts moderator

 Law Wanxi Thanks for the compliment on the post.

Most people come to this site for bread and circuses and that fine.  It is just every once and a white we throw in a little dose of scholarship just to keep things interesting. 

Brenda55 19334 pts moderator

 Law Wanxi Hey Wanxi.  Say I do an article about this kite and ask  "Is this kite racist?".  How many post do you think that article would generate?

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/galleries/2012/01/01/photo-of-the-day-2012.html#3b04ccac-f62f-4d18-adaf-50c03d2c1a73

 

LOL

Law Wanxi 5786 pts

 Brenda55 

Not nearly as many as you'd get if you titled it "Rhianna kite: Racist or Sexxxxy? Chris nowhere to be seen! Is he pulling someone else's string?"

 

That would rock this place down. More comments than a post accurately forecasting lotto numbers!

 

Criticalthinker 385 pts

 Law Wanxi  Brenda55 I agree with you. This post should have had well over 100 comments. This is the future of world we live in but you're right, Rhianna and Chris are more important than scholarship. I guess they are willing to learn the hard way than to get the gist of it here for free and less energy involved...