Hair Care Rip-Offs…Do NOT Get Caught Up in the Matrix Again!

Hair Care Rip-Offs…Do NOT Get Caught Up in the Matrix Again!

Why are all these so-called “natural hair products” jacking up their prices to kingdom come? Let’s really piss them off and share our own home made recipes and put these crooks out of business.

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Author : Christelyn Karazin

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So, I guess natural hair has OFFICIALLY become the hot new thing. Because when I went to Target yesterday, I tripped on my cart and went flying head first into the frozen food aisle when I saw a Miss Jessie’s kiosk featuring this item:

Miss Jessie's Super Sweetback TreatmentFor…get this…48.00. And that was a sale. The regular price is now $55.39.

DA HAYELL?!

GTFOOHWTBS!!

WTC?

WTF?

WTXYZLMNOP?!

Let me get this straight. Black women abandon the creamy crack en masse, save themselves literally thousands of dollars a year, and now the natural hair care industry wants to rob us blind with their nuts and berries?

Maybe I’m missing something.

Does this product contain a magic hair-growth genie that will get me to waist-length within six months? Does it contain some exotic nut oil from the innards of the Amazon that only a tribe of eight-inch tall pigmies have access to?

No?

Then can somebody tell me why Miss Jessie has decided to charge the equivalent to a day at the salon for this pink shite?

I don’t know about you, but I find this absolutely disgusting and exploitive. This woman’s company has probably the biggest ticket hair product in the entire store–the whole frickety-frakin STORE!! Meanwhile, “Becky” picks up the $3 Herbal Essence and calls it a day, and shakes her head about the poor black girls that have to pay a fortune to keep their hair looking decent.

Please, PLEASE do NOT allow these “Afro-centric” natural hair companies to once again rob you blind and create some kind of false dependency on their products. THEY ARE NOTHING SPECIAL, and you can make most, if not all this stuff from what’s already in your kitchen cabinet. After all, that how Carol’s Daughter and Miss Jessie started out, is it not?

I’m sensing a dangerous trend afoot, and I don’t want anyone in the BB&W Crew to get caught up in it. You don’t have to have Miss Jessie, and put Carol’s Daughter up for adoption. There’s tons of other products that work perfectly well on kinky hair–Quidad, Kinky Curly, Belegenza, Shea Moisture, not to mention the host of other really cheapo stuff–so please don’t allow yourselves to swap one dependency for another.

Wanna know who to really care for your hair, grow it long and healthy, without black hair product lines trying to rob you blind?  Buy BB&W contributor, Dr. Phoenyx Austin’s book, “If You Love It, It Will Grow.”

Not only is she a medical doctor, but she’s an expert. The proof is in the Kodak:

Dr. Phoenyx Austin

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tamarapixie 5 pts

Kinky Curly is just as expensive.  As a person who thought like you before I actually used the products, they are worth every penny.  And they smell good.  I am pretty sure I could not make something that smells that good with that consistency, and delivery in my kitchen very easily.  If people are willing to spend all that money on hair crack, then why not spend the equivalent on what would be considered food and vitamins for the hair?

JazzFest 44 pts

Lol I really don't feel like Ms. Jessie's is "nuts and berries" or "Afro- centric" when I first heard of them I went to their website and decided it wasn't worth it for me. Silkener? No thanks.

There are SO MANY affordable "natural hair" brands or "regular hair" products with better ingredients, and brands that are cheaper with the same quality as Ms. Jessie's! Lots of individuals are starting up companies too there.

Naptural85 has a recipe for a shea mix, as well as two different takes on deep conditioner. And there are lots of recipes on Youtube to things from spritzes, to DCs to leave - ins, it's so great. Now more than ever no one is beholden to over priced products! :)

SHEA MIX:-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Ok14CgADM&feature=BFp&list=PL1086E4341C56F88F

DC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p2O33-d154&list=PL155E5F1393F74821&index=140&feature=plpp_video

PaigeinPhilly 91 pts

I enjoying being a mad scientist in my kitchen...the hubby gets a laugh and brags to our friends that I have all the oils, Ph strips, fruits nuts berries...lol...yeh, im not getting caught up in the expensive product hype...as long as its simple, balanced( my hair thrives at Ph of 5) im good...

CarlaRose 86 pts

I'm not sure if its because I'm a lifelong natural, or just read and understand ingredients, but Miss Jessie's products or salon (formally known as "Curve") never appealed to me. The ingredients and prices always made me walk away.

Courtney86 24 pts

Miss Jessie's is not even the same product it was when it was relatively new. I think it is overrated and over hyped. I've never used it myself, but my sister used to, and it is complete crap now. Shea Moisture is $10 and Kinky Curly will run you from $11.99 to $16.99, and works just as well as Ms. Jessie's. Better than paying $20 and up.

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

y'know...another reason I don't flip over & splurge on some companies is that they seem to be selling a particular look (which is fine but limited) in their 'before' and 'after' images. It's like if you don't have a head-full of looser spirals/shiny curls/waves(the old 'good' hair)...or if you don't resort to a twist-out/braid out to compensate (for women w/ naturally tighter kinky-micro-spirals...the old 'bad' hair), then you're not 'with it'/hip or not the 'right' sort of natural... Phooey!

What was suppsed to be liberating morphs into yet another oppression. :/ ....more of the SOS, IMO.

Karla 2799 pts

ForestElfQueen You are so right, FEQ. But this seems to be a constant in women's world. Manufacturers figure out that women will pay whatever it takes to have the latest "look" and they will break her. I think it applies to fashion, hair, skin, even feminine hygiene products ("Gee, I wonder why I don't feel fresh?"). And it's insidious. I mean, why do we wear high heels? Yes, they make our butts stick out, our legs look long and sexy and some heels scream "CFM" but at the same time, they jack up our feet, totally screw with our backs and help put the podiatrist's kid through college. Make no mistake. The manufacturers are also telling the men what they should like about women so the cycle continues. I'll tell you one thing. Because of my time in the Navy, I rarely wore high heels and our heels couldn't be higher than two inches. When I broke my foot a few years ago (doing something dumb), the orthopedist who did my cast asked to take photos of my feet. Okay, yeah, my first thought is that he had a foot fetish but he said he wanted his patients to see what feet should look like. I have no corns, bunions, hammer toes, ingrown toenails, fungoid toenails... I take care of my feet. My doctor is amazed that I don't have back problems. All my heels are short but cute (I love kitten heels) and that's the way I like them. Fashion may dictate six-inch spikes but eff fashion. I have my own look and I'm sticking to it. That goes for everything else.

JazzFest 44 pts

KarlaForestElfQueen

I agree! The whole spree of curl definition products was interesting to witness. It makes perfect sense for people who naturally have curls, but i would see videos and read attempts of people desperately trying to fight against the hair on their heads...

Nonya 127 pts

Not surprised @ the sh*t the these companies are pulling. Afterall, per Chris Rock's documentary, something ridiculous like 80% of revenue from the multi-billion dollar hair industry is derived from Black hair products. So if the love is now for natural, well that's where they'll be putting the squeeze on.

josie3144 83 pts

This is so typical..when I had Sisterlocks...they took me to the cleaners with prices...I had to go all the way to Philly from B-more to get someone that would do my hair correct...they only way I was able to buy Miss Jessie was when it was buy one get one half price at Target.....nuts and berries...wow...that is hilarious...but so true...

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

I haven't tried any MJ products yet(and at those prices , I probably won't. lolz). I have tried Oyin Handmade, Donna Marie, and finally (probably one of the last women on earth to do so haha) Kinky Curly's Curling Custard & Knot Today. All quite nice but I'm totally fine with health food store(Lily of the Desert, Derma Organic, Trader Joes...basic oils, aloe vera, clay, henna/cassia ) and drugstore/beauty supply(Suave, Tressemme, Eco & Wetline gels, Lustrasilk conditioners, random dominican prods) items.

My thing is that it all gets mostly rinsed away so I'm not *that* into hair products. If my hair detangles well or sets nicely then I'm happy with the products. I also avoid silicones and sulfates. I need to be more careful about parabens.

I think one of the best things I do for my hair and skin is using a water filter.

Karla 2799 pts

ForestElfQueen Three cheers for water filters. I don't care what the county says about municipal water. It sucks! We bought and had installed a commercial whole-house water filter when I realized my bath water smelled like Clorox. Our filter is reverse osmosis, charcoal and ultraviolet light so it takes care of everything. Changing the filters can be a bit adventurous but can be done. I saw huge changes in my skin after a few days. I can't stress enough how important clean, chemical-free, bug free water is.

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

Karla yes, the water quality is so key, omg!!

Bunny77 I'd definitely be fine with Suave & some olive or coconut oil most days as long as I have decent water to use. Most of my other hair prod. purchases have been out of curiosity or from reading glowing reviews. I now have a cabinet full of goop to use up this year. lol! Luckily I can use most of it on the children's hair too.

i think w/ hair products, like any other category of merchandise , the prices can increase to whatever some ppl are willing to pay. Sometimes it is actually better- quality but often it's mostly ego-boost or cachet. I admit to stumbling into that pit far too many times with other goods. I don't find it surprising at all esp. when hair/beauty is such a big deal, particularly for many AA women.

Bunny77 1019 pts

Suave is amazing!!!Whenever I'm in Florida, I pick up some Domincan/random Latina conditioners as well. Pretty cheap, nice smelling and really moisturizing too! ForestElfQueen

sparel 821 pts

they know black women are going to be spending a lot on their hair. They are going where the business is at...Remember when going natural was new and black women just started doing the big chop on youtube and then it went viral and everybody started to go natural. and it even started to get air time on tv. commercials etc. There were a lot of black made business. Now a lot of those business are sold to people that even have our hair type, and they are selling it with of course a black face in front of the product. Because lord knows we will buy something with a black face on the cover.

I've also wanted to buy Miss Jessie's products but never got around to it because it's just too darn expensive. i'm not going to spend no 50 something bucks on a product where I can get some VO5 at the dollar store for a $1 and some coconut oil from Krogers for $6. No thank you!!

jamaica68 34 pts

You are so late, Miss Jessie's products have always been expensive.

There's no reason for me to buy those products when there are products like Qhemet Biologics, Anita Grant, Aubrey Organics(shampoos & conditioners), Oyin Handmade & Blended Beauty. Everything DOESN'T work for everybody, buy samples when you can so you won't waste too much money and also wait for sales.

Christelyn 3167 pts moderator

jamaica68 No...they weren't always that price where I was buying it (Lancaster, CA). The purple stuff was $24...

JazzFest 44 pts

Christelyn jamaica68

$24 Yikes! I'm glad that I couldn't access a lot of these popular brands when I started, I had to focus on drugstore/healthstore brands or things that I could get in specialty shops here...

VintageNarcissa 923 pts

I like Miss Jessie's Creme de la Creme conditioner for styling. At $16 a bottle there is no way in hell that I would be washing that stuff out! LOL! I haven't used it in a while though because it is a little too expensive for me right now. I really like Shea Moisture products and I'm about to be finished with a container of Soft Sheen Carson Roots of Nature Butter Whip Oil Cream, which is either $8.99 or $9.99, not too bad. I am so lazy with my hair, I definitely don't have the energy or patience to pay more than $10 for any hair product. Shampoos and Conditioners, I either by the economy size Aussie Moist from BJ's Whole Sale or their generic Berkley and Jensen brand for $4.99. I definitely also use the tried and trues like evoo, which I pour into a small bottle from the large bottle of kitchen evoo.

AJ2011 750 pts

I think I spend about half the cost on the 5 products I use. So for one jar of MJ's I can stock my shower caddy for 2 months? Yeah I 'll stick to Walgreens and Amazon.com (Shea Butter).

glamdoll 496 pts

AJ2011

Shea butter((Amazon 9.99) and coconut oil (Trader Joe's 5.99) are 2 of my favorite beauty products for my hair and skin.

Moon Child 26 pts

she is beautiful and so is her hair. I usually wear my hair natural. From what I hear my beautician tell me, natural hair on black women is all the craze! However, now I am bored with my natural hair and I am going to embrace the versatility that black women possess. I am going to weave! LMAO. Why? Cause I wanna!

Black women embrace whatever it is you want and do whatever you want with your hair! Why? Cause it's YOURS.

BE WELL.

Nisha Moon

DidiO 294 pts

I used Miss Jessies curly pudding and baby buttercream for a while: at first they seemed really moisturizing- bearing in mind that this was early on in my natural hair journey. I was trying to figure things out and desperately jumping on any and every bandwagon out there 'cos my hair was dry. Now I know it's because my hair craves protein but I digress..Miss Jessie products turned on me big-time causing horrible build-up and ultimately drier hair. I don't actually consider it money wasted; if anything it's a lesson learned- you do NOT always get what you pay for!

Now I use an inexpensive sulphate -free shampoo (Giovanni) deep condition once a week with Aphogee 2 minute and use a £2 curl activator/moisturizer as a daily leave-in and my hair has not been this strong & full since I went natural. It's funny but my hair does absolutely fine on many of the natural worlds no-no's such as protein, 'cones and a (bit) of mineral oil:) I spent a LOT of money to come to this realisation.

I'd like to point out that Kinky Curly custard or whatever it's name is is also pricey. I used it once and was initially gutted it didn't work for me...now I am DELIGHTED. No spending a mini fortune on hair products every month!

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

DidiO I have read from other women that MJ products build-up and dry the hair.

DidiO 294 pts

ForestElfQueen

True story. I also used it on my kids hair hoping for a different outcome as I did not want to toss that much money away but within a couple of days-yuck!

Never again. It's strange 'cos my hair CAN take cones and a bit of mineral oil in moderation but there is just something about MJ's constituents...

CarlaRose 86 pts

DidiO I never knew/heard protein was a natural hair no-no. My hair craves and loves it in moderation.

DidiO 294 pts

CarlaRose

haha, this is actually uncommon- a lot of naturals are very dedicated to avoiding protein in any form. I've been on many forums and most times when someone has a hair related issue and lists what they use, people pipe up to say..oh thats got soy protein/wheat protein etc..thats whats causing your problem!'

Some like it but definitely in the minority. My hair doesn't just crave a bit of protein, it needs a daily fix and a weekly major 'fest!

Islandgirl 405 pts

These so called natural black hair care products are charging those outrageous prices because they know that BW are buying them. It is a fact that black hair is a multi-billion dollar industry that is only growing each year. I am a fiend at reading ingredients lists and the ingredients listed on these natural black products are headed with primarily cheap petrochemicals with a few botanicals at the end of the ingredients list. Some of the so-called white care hair products do the same job with less harsh chemicals at a fraction of the cost. I would never forget when I was mulling over doing the big chop last month a black hair book that I got for free via kindle was actively advising black women to use hair care products containing ALS and SLS because BW use more hair products.

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 639 pts

Christelyn & socialitedreams This just goes to show we must do our due diligence...There are plenty of Black women owned/operated businesses online who sell equivalent (or even superior) hair care products!

My latest conversation: 108419_3285 « Black Women Deserve Better™

Blusunshine 8 pts

What would you lovely ladies recommend I use to transition from relaxed to natural while still wearing a weave? I haven't relaxed my hair since March 2011 and every time I get my weave done over I deep condition, chop the relaxed hair off at the demarcation line, and use pink oil moisturizer. My natural tresses are now about an inch or two above my shoulders, which I'm excited about b/c when getting it relaxed it didn't grow as well. I want something that'll keep my hair healthy while under the weave.

Karla 2799 pts

Blusunshine Dr. Austin has info on taking care of natural hair while under a weave in her book (pp. 193 - 197). I've never had one so I can't tell you what to do but she says to wash and condition as you would without the weave. Also, you have to be careful not to pile too many products on your hair because you can get build-up which can lead to a dark, moist environment and therefore mildew, fungus, dandruff and smelliness. If you want ideas on what to use, please check out her book. Believe me, it's worth the investment on paper or Kindle (I have both so I can have a copy while traveling). And, no, I'm not her agent or publisher. I'm just a woman with natural hair who wants to make sure it stays healthy, strong and gorgeous.

Brenda55 4316 pts moderator

KarlaBlusunshine Just downloaded it. Thanks for the thumbs up.

socialitedreams 57 pts

and miss jessies stuff has nasty beauty supply cheap stuff in it to boot....i'm NOT paying $50 for a tub of mineral oil and petroleum, no ma'am.

i'd rather stick with oyin handmade, qhemet biologics, and good old fashioned kitchen items like olive oil. my hair has thrived

Jamila 2819 pts moderator

I use 3 products--other than shampoo--on my hair. Luster's Pink Oil moisturizer, Belegenza Simply Straight, or Africa's Best Herbal Oil. I've found that no matter what I'm trying to do to my hair, one of those (or a mix of two) does the trick.

kennaGransberg 141 pts

I dont know if miss Jessie is good or not because i have never used it, but i have been using beautiful textures which i am really digging at the moment and i can tell you this its a not even half the price of miss jessie as a matter a fact i could buy the entire kit and still have change left over. IMO its a form of marketing strategy because if you see a product on the shelf that cost $6.98 you are going to think its not as good as the one that cost $25.00 because its more expensive and the put natural/organic things in it. But its not always that pricey means better. in addition some produces are just selling a name not the goods itself.

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

kennaGransberg "...in addition some produces are just selling a name not the goods itself."

yes, name and images.

ClarissaBurton 30 pts

I have not fallen for the foolishness. I have been blessed to visit those hair care gurus on YouTube who have been so kind to share their recipes for healthy hair. My hair journey that began in February 2011 (big chop down to 1/2") and ending February 2012 (shoulder blade length) is proof positive that taking the right vitamin supplements, using the recipes shared by the YouTube hair care gurus and using Shea Moisture works. So, I beg you ladies to please listen to Christelyn's plea. A $55 bottle of NONSENSE is just that non-$$$$$!

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

ClarissaBurton yep, youtube has been a blessing. ...getting to watch how other women handle their hair. I stopped being so rough...& learned to use adequate amounts of conditioner.

glamdoll 496 pts

ForestElfQueenClarissaBurton

I'm glad I discovered the Youtube gurus. My skin and scalp are sensitive, so shea butter and coconut oil have both been a blessing. I'm having fun by adding essential oils to the shea/coconut and creating my own scents. My beauty routine has become simple and inexpensive, my skin has an amazing glow and my debit card is happy too;-)

Bunny77 1019 pts

I was into Curly Pudding when it first hit the market years ago and it was about $20 for a huge jar. It also had great ingredients like milk protein (my hair lurves this stuff) and some other nice stuff that my hair truly loves.

Fast forward years later and all the good stuff is replaced with a bunch of crap that I know makes my hair hard, crunchy and overall, not moisturized!!! And it's more expensive? Naw son... I still have one remaining jar of the old school Curly Pudding, but I'm not buying anymore.

You know what my Numero Uno product is? Giovanni Direct Leave-In. 8 oz. for about $7. I found a wholesale seller that has liters for $12. I also like Kinky Curly Curling Custard and Batia and Aleeza gel leave in. All very reasonably priced for a lot of product.

Black natural hair doesn't have to cost you a fortune.

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

Bunny77 I really dislike when companies start with a solid product and over the years go cheap-y on the ingredients but try to coast on former glory. not cool at all. It happens in fragrance/perfume and clothing brands too. :< ...Some foods too, come to think of it. i remember when I was a kid & the Famous Amos cookies were great and now(IIRC it was sold) they're like discs of compacted dust. :S

Bunny77 1019 pts

I remember the original Famous Amos cookies too... now they're terrible!

You're right though, this is common with commercial products. Get a devoted customer base addicted to your product, spread the word to get more customers, then raise the price because of demand, and then start using cheap ingredients to fill the greater demand for the product at higher prices.

I guess I expected better from companies that are still serving a "niche" market, (the kinky-haired female population that wears its hair that way isn't that vast) but hey, everyone's a capitalist, so I shouldn't be that surprised!

ForestElfQueen

Karla 2799 pts

I get such a feeling of accomplishment making my own hair care products and my loctician tells me I have the best head of hair she's ever seen. Every time she uses one of my concoctions, she wants to know what's in it. I submit that every person can make his/her own hair care unguents/sprays/gels for pennies and they will be much better than anything one can buy. BTW, I bought Miss Jessie's Curly Pudding to try on my mom. That stuff sucked!!! She had, what looked like, rubber glue beads sticking to the hair strands. It took forever to wash her hair and get that out. I called Miss Jessie's and ranted; they told me I used it wrong but I followed the instructions to the letter. Finally, the guy told me I had a "bad" jar so they refunded my credit card. My mom now uses the stuff I make for her. I had Dr. Austen's book pre-ordered and received it last week so have already read through it. It's a wealth of information and a must-read if you want beautiful, healthy hair. My latest love? It's a mix of Argan, Camellia and castor oil with a few drops of rosemary, lemongrass, tea tree and lavender essential oils that I've made. I use an eyedropper to apply it to my scalp every three days. My hair looks awesome!

Jamila 2819 pts moderator

Karla "My latest love? It's a mix of Argan, Camellia and castor oil with a few drops of rosemary, lemongrass, tea tree and lavender essential oils that I've made. I use an eyedropper to apply it to my scalp every three days. My hair looks awesome!"

I think I hear a business plan somewhere in there.... :)

Brenda55 4316 pts moderator

Karla I'm with you. I started making my own hair and skin care products also an have found that not only is it easy and cheaper but they preform better. Not going back to store bought.

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

Karla awesome! ok, Hair stuff will be my next project after the perfume tinkering. lolz. (I'll have to save the soap for when the children are much older and no longer underfoot.)

CarlaRose 86 pts

Karla I love making my own products, but still trying to get the hang of making water based products. The emulsification and preserving process can be difficult. Any tips, books or websites you recommend?

Karla 2799 pts

CarlaRose I have found that no matter what any recipe says, you cannot emulsify oil with water just by shaking it or whipping it. It will eventually separate. The only way to get it to stay emulsified is to use a catalyst such as lecithin or borax. I use pharmaceutical grade borax, not 20 Mule Team because I know it doesn't have anything else in it. Borax is a naturally occurring mineral, not to be confused with boric acid, which is a neurotoxin. You only need a pinch of borax added and dissolved in water and, when mixed with the oils, it will emulsify beautifully and stay that way. I use it to make cold cream (to remove my mineral makeup) and lotions. Lecithin can be used as well (eggs have lecithin, which is why chefs use it in mayonnaise; all regular mayo is is oil, acid (lemon or vinegar), mustard and egg; tofu also has lecithin from the soy, which is why vegetarian mayo works as well). I also add a little beeswax to my oil (melt it); it helps the emulsification stay stiffer and smoother. For preservation, I use grapefruit seed extract or natural Vitamin E oil. Even still, whatever product you use will not last months. I make mine in small batches so that they are used up quickly and I also have a small refrigerator in my bathroom, which is where I store my homemade unguents. One of the many reasons commercial cosmetic companies use such harsh preservatives is because buyers expect to have whatever they're buying last for years. If they buy a jar of Estée Lauder moisturizer at $150 a pop and are using a dab twice a day, the jar should last one year and, at that price, customers expect it to. Therefore, the FDA approves parabens as preservatives because it has a continuous kill ratio re: germs from the air and your fingers. The problem is that companies must put in quite a bit of parabens to ensure the product lasts for a year. My fave sites for recipes are: http://www.makeyourcosmetics.com/ and http://www.fromnaturewithlove.com/. Although I have a plethora of books, I have found that I don't use them anymore because I can find whatever I need online. If you want a specific recipe, type in whatever you want on Google. For instance, I typed in "recipe for cold cream" and voilà. Sorry this is so long but I'm passionate about making my own stuff. Hope this helps.

CarlaRose 86 pts

Karla Thanks for the info! I've used vegetable emulsifying wax and stearic acid and that has worked well so far, but getting the amounts right is hard - too much or too little can really screw up a batch.

The cold cream recipes are easy to find, but recipes for hair creams are harder for some reason. Most people just blend a bunch of butters and be done with it, but I want to make creams, leave-ins, etc.

Also my hair hates shea butter so if I can make products for my hair that doesn't contain it, that would be great.

Thanks again for your help!

Karla 2799 pts

CarlaRose Yes, hair creams are very difficult to find, even in books. Most, if not, all contain shea butter. I did find this recipe, which allows you to use cocoa butter or coconut oil in place of shea butter. Again, they're trying to emulsify without a catalyst but I would add 1/4 t of pharma grade borax to this: http://www.livestrong.com/article/148492-how-to-make-your-own-natural-base-cream-for-skin-hair/.