Identifying Black Counterproductive Behavior: “Having Babies” Versus “Becoming Mothers”

Identifying Black Counterproductive Behavior: “Having Babies” Versus “Becoming Mothers”

If we look at the different phrases used to describe the act of bearing and raising children there is a telltale clue to the difference in the way in which Blacks view parenthood versus other groups.

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I’m a true believe in the power of words to shape how one interacts and communicates their experience with the world. Because I’ve always done more listening then talking I’ve grown to realize that a simple slip of the tongue can tell so much about a person’s subconscious feelings.

Not only that, but the words in which one chooses to describe themselves tells a lot about how that person feels, both consciously and sub-consciously if you know what to listen for.

As a natural linguist I often noted the subtle difference between a person’s choice to use one set of words versus another to generally explain or describe the same thing.

It’s not entirely our fault since an individual’s vocabulary is only as good as the vocabulary of those around them.

In addition, a vocabulary also consists of words and phrases based on whatever words are commonly used to describe the everyday phenomenon of human existence.

Why do the words that we use matter so much?

Because it is through this collective language that we pass down the shared experience of being Black. Though people may differ in their capacity to comprehend the meanings of certain words, we are still able to understand the implied meaning beyond the surface level of our dialogue.

It is this meaning that we should pay more attention to if we are to ever hope to change the ways in which Blacks exist in society.

One area in which we can apply our hypothesis is by examining the way in which we, as Black people, approach parenthood.

As we know, OOW births are rampart in the Black community, and though I am not a traditionalist in the least, the fact that so many children are born to ill equipped and negligent parents can’t be ignored.

The Chicken. The Egg.

If we look at the different phrases used to describe the act of bearing and raising children there is a telltale clue to the difference in the way in which Blacks view parenthood versus other groups.

Could the slight difference in terminology cause things to be so much harder later on down the road or is the hard experience of being born to Black parents best described by the words used.

Mom, Where Do Black Babies Come From?

Dysfunctional women start families by ‘getting knocked up’, when I visualize this phrase it brings to mind the entire act of conception as something violent, and accidental. Like a drive by shooting; no witnesses, lots of blood and senseless

By using the phrase, ‘she got knocked up’ we alleviate discussion of how a woman becomes pregnant, and even more important than that….who ‘knocked her up’?

White women ‘get pregnant’, by accident, on purpose, by happenstance and any a number of genuine, acceptable and easily relatable reasons. Birth control does fail, condoms pop, schedules change, champagne flows, and sometimes you just aren’t being as responsible as you have been these last X amount of years since you first been sexually active and began taking steps to avoid pregnancy.

Middle class White couples and other cultures are able to maneuver children in a space that makes room for the children to exist as part of the larger fabric of Standard America. Parents may sulk, grandparents may tisk, but everyone moves forward with intention when a couple prepares for a child, even when the child was originally unintentional.

Low class/ill prepared women refer to themselves ’having babies’, rather than a more middle class concept such as ‘starting a family’, ‘reproducing’, ‘becoming a mother’, ‘adding an addition’, ‘not being careful’….you get the idea.

With less open dialogue about sex, birth control and the stigma of abortion, black women who need to be vigilant about their reproductive capacity are left to skip landmines and when they aren’t able to, the proof of her ‘fault’ is being pushed in a stroller as she walks alone.

Thanks for child……and now what?

Women and men unprepared to have children approach the pending birth as an end process instead of a lifelong commitment to the care, development and support of another human being. Lower class mothers increase in weight, may or may not continue to work, attend school and continue on with their own lives while pregnant. Inexperience and ignorance may cause some to neglect to make accommodations for the child until after the child is born.

It is at this point where a new child get tossed into instability as she/he is placed from family member to family member as the unprepared mother tries to move forward as if things didn’t change even though she is now a parent and her child has basic needs. Attempting to rally the support of the father may include his participating with care, but if he is employed then he has his own responsibilities that supersede the childcare necessities of a child. At some point

Could this difference is expectations may be a reason why Black men do not feel the need to stick around to provide something they do not feel they have within them or are they unwilling to give another human being something they themselves did not receive during their own childhood?

Women who are socially stable enter into parenthood with the awareness that they will be “raising children”; the children born to healthy familiar environments are considered a part of the clan social system and are deserving, and valuable. These families go about the business of gathering resources in preparation of a long haul commitment to the survival of the pending child.

I don’t think this phenomena is unique to married couples, I believe the willingness to participate in the development and care of a child is something that can be achieved by any welcoming and stable family structure, be it same sex, platonic friends, unmarried couples, adoption, or single parents.

Lower class women, with less resources to begin with, need to take into consideration the resources of the potential father before deciding on whether he is capable of contributing to a child. The willingness to become a father, no matter how genuine, can not take the place of financial resources, no matter how great his intentions and commitment to she and her child.

A woman shouldn’t have a baby and those around her call it a blessing and pray on it when they know there are no means to raise the pending child, nor is its presence necessarily welcomed.

The Gift of Life is an Unwanted Mistake

I was attending church for awhile during my pregnancy. I had no ring on my finger, but the father of my child and I were in a committed relationship, we lived together and were normally stable. At this point, we were having an abundance of problems and he had moved out, though we were still together as a couple.

My child’s babysitter was a wonderful woman who found her way to redemption at the alter of the Lord. She never neglected to invite me or anyone else to Sunday service. It was a kind gesture. I won’t lie, I’m suspicious and very intolerant of religion, so I keep my distance although I’ve visited multiple places of worship and have been greeted and warmly welcomed. I’m just not into the whole higher concept thing.

Nevertheless, I attended a service and some how seemed to draw the attention of the pastor during his sermon. He preached and prayed and admonished those in the audience who need forgiveness to go forward and kneel and beg the Lord for forgiveness. This wasn’t the largest church ever, but it wasn’t so small that he had to give the entire sermon next to me.

There were so many people running forward that they had begun to pile up on one another. I turned and look at the pastor and he’s facing me..still preaching.

He then reaches out to grab my arm and LEADS me up to the alter.

I didn’t know what to do…….my initial reaction was to back his ass up off of me in the ways I employ, but I’m in a church and pregnant! I can’t fight or fling right now.

I opened my mouth to protest in sailor language but thought about my babysitter, whom I would never want to insult.

I thought about how disgusting and ignorant I think people like this are. I kick myself  and ask how did I allow myself to be duped into being here right now.

I. WAS. LIVID!!

Yes, I was pregnant.

No, it wasn’t planned.

No, I wasn’t married.

Yes, we were happy….(after the initial shock of how I got pregnant but that’s a story for another time. I think MOST parents have a five second (or more) disconnect of a *blink blink* when hearing about a pending birth).

YOU might think my actions a sin but there is no way in conscious Hell that I would go about carrying a child that I love while also allowing myself to ashamed of the thing that I love that I am carrying inside of me.

I was ‘off my meds’ at the time after finally having received mental health service for bi-polar. I was initially taken off my normal meds and given Prozac, thought to be safer. It took 48 hours for the drugs to have me suicidal and being hyper delivered to the Dr for an evaluation. After that scare I refused to take any meds during the pregnancy, my mental condition was fragile on paper, but I was back to myself…aggressive, sporadic and manic.

That’s religious madness and I feel sorry for any woman who has had to carry and bear a child under circumstances where she’s dammed if she does and dammed if she doesn’t….LITERALLY.

Many women are simultaneously told that a baby is a “blessing” and should not be aborted yet she should is shamed and made to regret having created and her choice to bear the child.

I did what I needed to do in order to make myself as healthy and stable as I could while also preparing to carry and deliver a child. Both he and I were employed, with stable health insurance providing jobs, I was home at the time on disability.

My child attended a good school, we were surrounded by friends and family anticipating our child. We were closer in age to 30, than 20…I had no reason to hang my head.

How does it benefit anyone involved to shame the mother of a child in a time where she could use as much support and guidance as is available? Like any mother, I’m sure there are times when she’s scared and possibly overwhelmed, are there no kind words? No advice? No reassurance…?

Guess what a new mother has never done before???????????? BE A MOTHER!!

These mothers suffer emotionally abused and neglected. Possibly abandoned by the father of their child and when those around her should be gathering together we point fingers and whisper.

We, especially females, encourage new BC mother’s to put on her ‘strong black woman’ pants as we stand in line to hand out indifference as target practice of what’s to come only because that is what we choose to offer her.

Were we to ask what the implication is on the psyche of child when a society deems them mistakes, sins and burdens yet hypocritically claims love to that same child, what would the answer be?

There can be only one answer.

Either you love, accept and welcome this new person that will require strength and perseverance of you that you never knew you had or you are sorry that you did what you did and but somehow also chose to complete the birth of a person that you wished wasn’t here.

Children placed in adoption are loved. Children kept within their own families are hated. How does that happen?

The black community can’t have it both ways. I know of women who abuse their children in a multitude of ways but they will be quick to tell you how ‘good’ of a mother they are because their children wear Jordans yet eat off the floor.

Having basic needs met is the standard of care for some parents and that’s unfortunate when a child is born and one if not both parents check out because the situation has lost its luster after the baby showers, congratulations and good wishes and popular FB updates.

Children realize when they are unwanted. They grow up to be resentful and hurt spirits who question their lack of worth by the very people who created them. These children go out into the world expressing their feelings of worthlessness to others that look like them; the community, or their own offspring, their families.

Generations upon generations of humans deemed unwanted by their family, their culture and the greater society. We should not only question the manner in which we bring children into disjointed circumstances but also why we choose to do things that are inherently destructive to our future are black women.

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SirLoinDeBeef 2526 pts

As Brenda55 & I have stated several time ... we are not speaking tothe mass of black folks making up the4 middle class ... we are talking about the UNDERCLASS ... the dregs ... those left behind when most of the rest left the 'hood' and succeeded in a hostile world.

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tracyreneejones 3592 pts

 kia I'm all in support of dialogue, but I"m unclear on how you got "BOYFRIEND" from my personal description. I agree that if the black church wants to admonish one, they should admonish both for their behavior. However, I simply could have not been wearing a ring or not had a ring visible on my hand on this particular day. These people did not know of me, nor my personal life. Making visitors to a church feel as if they've stepped in the midst of a cult accomplishes nothing. If you must know, the father of my child was always at work...which is one of the reasons why we didn't marry. He paid all of the bills, and was a fine father, and general caretaker but........I chose not to marry him. Don't confuse me with that chick.....pregnant Black women are no more a monolith then any other time. 

DeepWater 2464 pts

I want to say this, I'm not resentful, worthless, or hateful.   But I realized early on; I was never wanted.   My muddah lied to me.    Fadduh hated her, so much so that he left us in the streets with nothing and I mean NOTHING.   I have little to no respect for males, especially Black males.    It's taken me years, even with therapy, to realize this.

 

Someone in another post stated that I border on hateful.   I don't hate anyone.   But I'm hard on cats.   It comes from knowing that I was nothing to my sirer (sperm donor).    Looking at things now as an adult, I truly have hate for this individual (faddah).    Notice I never used the term (fadduh)  'father" with love.   

 

Not mad, TRJ, things in this life happen.   Woman with child is natural, that simple.    However, I have little respect for males.   Notice I rarely use the term "Men".   So few males and far between are "men".

 

I only wish that muddah hadn't lied to me.   He didn't love her nor myself.   I will rarely give males White, Black, or Otherwise, the benefit of the doubt.     Males are ugly beasts sometimes and I was bourne of one of them, sadly.  Sometimes wishing that wasn't the case, that we could be born in another manner.

 

I will hate him until the pushing up of daisies, the life after, and the life after that.   I will "hate" him until the last days.  That's what happens when a male discards his child and muddah as garbage for "greener pastures".

 

Becoming a mother should come with love and not hate, such is what I come from.

 

I applaud your essay.   Being a mother should come naturally.   

 

Women, Black women in particular, should vet whom they sleep with, otherwise one comes out with someone like me, muddah and I have bare discussions and fadduh I hate until the end of time.  

 

Be careful whom you lay down with because otherwise one becomes like myself; hard against males and not trusting of them but for rare occasions.   I will NEVER, EVER have "love" for the sperm donor that made me.  I will hate him until my last breath, and, the life after that, and the life after that.   I HATE him and I despise having been lied to about my "having been made out of love".   CRAP, CRAP, and more CRAP, after that.     LIES.

 

So thank you TRJ for your essay, maybe then folk will wake up to what can happen "by mistake".

 

 

 

SirLoinDeBeef 2526 pts

 DeepWater Please, I beg you, release your hate to the winds - a recent Quaker bumper sticker said why - what you hate become you.

DeepWater 2464 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef    I hear you.    I don't live the "hate" everyday, c'mon now.

 

But what I'd like to know when did your faddah leave you n the streets of NYC with muddah with the very clothes on your very backs?    Has this happened to you?   If so tell me about it.  Has it?   Did you have to change your very existence because you were left with nothing?   Have you?    If so, tell me about it.   I take it that you do know what this is like.  I take it that you know what it's like to couch surf with muddah with people that were our alleged "friends".    I take it that you know what it's like for your faddah to never come to your events, recitals, graduations.     I take it that you have an understanding of your faddah never acknowledging your birthdays.   You must understand this, right?

 

I'm assuming the last time you saw your faddah (if not deceased, remarried, whathaveyou) was 1979?     Is that correct?    I take it that your faddah when last seen told you to "shut up, you have nothing important to say", I take it that you're familiar with that I guess.    You are familiar, aren't ya?    You've slept on an IRT grate until housing could be found, right?    I take it that on school trips you had to ask the school to pay for it right, when muddah didn't always have money, correct?    I take it you know about that.

 

So tell me, what do you know about my faddah I don't?   Obviously, I'm missing something.

Brenda55 19608 pts moderator

 DeepWater  SirLoinDeBeef 

Deep I am going to insert myself in here. 

I hear you.  I really do.

Consider this. Sometimes it is not all unicorns and rainbows when dad stays. 

SirLoin's story is different from your, but there is  a story there and he gets  yours more than you know.   He is just sharing how he healed. No disrespect intended. 

DeepWater 2464 pts

 Brenda55   A friend pretty much said the same thing you're stating that it was probably best that he left and I'm now beginning to accept that.   My folks were actually married, imo, there had to have been a better way of going about this.   It takes two to do The Tango and muddah tells me little other than the bits that I do know about previous to the faltering of their union.

 

My fadduh was an educated individual, as well as, muddah, but, my goodness, there had to be better way end the union as opposed to tossing us as garbage out into street.   Many years ago now and I've been through a few lifetimes within this one.  Love myself and am glad for the being I am now, that's something I did, not them.   Folks are supposed to have loving parents even with a divorce or static between them.   But I didn't get that guy.   I got the worst of the worst, a male so far beneath anything resembling a man.    

 

So I was just responding to SirLoinDeBeef in that he must know something I don't.

tracyreneejones 3592 pts

 DeepWater  Brenda55 I know of the type of father that you speak, and I know of the pain of wondering why couldn't come other alternative be found besides the most inhumane. I understand. And I want you to know the slithering hearts of men like your father, and the father of others is for them to bear alone. I'm a fan of calling people out for shit when I see it, I've got work to do regarding my own faddah. Maybe both of us will find some sense in the disparity that we've been forced to deal with. I think you're quite dope....so forgive me for being stoked that you are here. 

zipporah 1729 pts

all women need to VET ALL MEN--this isnt just a BW problem only BUT its possible we/they could be further downhill in culture, like having more generations of boys not raised by proper men--i have a stepgrandaughter, my daughters older niece, who treates her dad with disdain even though he died from complications of meth addiction, her sister still misses him though--both girls are NOT BLACK. and the one who doesnt have good feelings about dad has dark hair with skyblue eyes.

AshleyFisher 390 pts

One, I'm kinda dying on the inside because my child is planned for the far far future when I have a job and live where I want and get all that wonder lust out.

 

Two, I feel sorry for these chicks because a lot of them don't even make it to my age without a child and I'm only 20. Whenever I hear someone had a baby in my head I'm always like "dang we JUST graduated. Don't you wanna have fun?" I'm like I'm still a kid. Let me do what I have to. When I want kids, they will happen. And not a moment before.

 

But I think really the sad part is the no support system. Because my mother is/was? a single mom but she had my gran, both her sisters, the whole bloody extended family really. I keep running into people who are like Ashley you don't remember me (which on the inside is always no) and so even though at times she struggled she still had some kind of support and I wish these girls had at least that. Then it wouldn't be so damn bad. But it is. And when people are against abortion I want to give them the look and be like "really? are you gonna take care of that kid? Because she ain't gonna put it up for adoption" and then 20 years later those same people will put that same kid in jail. Makes no goddamn sense. 

thecrazyartist 2242 pts

 AshleyFisher

 I can feel where you ae coming from, I am 21 and I don't plan on having children, not now and not in the future.  I don't hate kids or anyting like that, it's just that I understand that starting a family is a full time responsibility that takes time, resources,  stability and a slew of other things that I don't feel like commiting myself to, having a kid is a huge responsibility.

 

Too many young women see having a kid as "becoming a real woman" or "having his baby shows how much I love him".  In the BC it's weird if you are 20 or older and have no kids. It's not like these girls are getting married and starting families, they are "baby mammas".   

AshleyFisher 390 pts

 thecrazyartist My sister is 28 with no kids and as much as she wants them she wants the ring even more. So there ya go. Girls can always say no. But still. 

cns 704 pts

Yes Unfortuantely it is a badge of honor to have an OOW baby in the BC. A single and childless Black woman I know has a very well-paying job at the Post Office. Being single she is always asked if she wants to get married and have children.  Well get this, her Caucasian co-workers ask if she wants to get married, but the Black co-workers only ask if she wants kids.  The black folks always ask if she already has kids and when she explains that she wants to get married first, they go on to explain to her that she does not need to be  married to have kids. When she explains that she prefers to be married 1st, they look at her like she is crazy. She’s a woman of a certain age and Black folks are still trying to pull the okey doke. They act like they are made at her or something. LOL.

 

Btw, the picture of this like boy makes me sad.

uninterracial 950 pts

 cns You know, when I see little black boys, I really worry for them. When they are this young, they are so innocent and sweet, little babies. Knowing what they will be subjected when they have mothers like this, I shudder. I remember years ago there was a really offensive t-shirt that had a picture of a black baby boy wearing a diaper in handcuffs and the caption said, "Arrest black babies now, so they won't commit crimes later." I mean really? C'mon now. But seriously, are they that far off?

The Silent One 190 pts

 cns I'm not surprised.  Last year I had a Black male friend who I hadn't spoken to in awhile ask me if I had kids and/or a boyfriend.  I did wonder why he didn't ask me if I was married.

EarthJeff 3336 pts

 cns "Yes Unfortuantely it is a badge of honor to have an OOW baby in the BC."

That does seem to be true.  So the next question becomes.... Why?

simpleebisou 127 pts

Exactly,  WORDS CREATE WORLDS PEOPLE!

Bellydancer 789 pts

I think motherhood is a burden on black women especially single ones. They do not have the support of their families and are often lacking financially even though some may be in fact married. I think the black community is aware of this lack of support but for some reasons most will not change their views and if the girl was raised by a single mom her mother will most likely not agree to terminating the pregnancy this is due to being on the system and will add cash to the family nevermind if the child is trying to finish middle school or whatever.

 Some take the black nationalist view and think more black babies should be born regardless of who raises them as long as they are black. Some just have children cuz the guy they are dating wants them and she figures she will lose him. I didn't fall for any of this shit growing up and just had no interest in kids period. Being the oldest of six will make you that way. I grew up in the projects and can tell you some stories.

The Working Home Keeper 6634 pts

 Bellydancer "I think motherhood is a burden on black women especially single ones."

 

And that's a shame because experiencing motherhood as a married woman with a supportive husband has been the biggest joy of my life.  I wish all women could experience motherhood in this way.  Raising children is not easy.  But, it's infinitely easier when you have the love and support of a partner (husband in my case).  I'm able to experience motherhood in a way that I would not if I was struggling to do it all on my own.  So thankful for my husband, who is also a wonderful and loving father.

 

tracyreneejones 3592 pts

 The Working Home Keeper  Bellydancer Having a supportive helper around is key. Any old person along for the pregnancy ride can cause things to be just as worse if not moreso. I love the fathers that feel that the baby is 50% theirs, poop, heartache, all night sick bed vigils and all. Parenting takes teamwork...it makes the dream work!! I have a scandal of a story to tell about my pregnancy..for another time.....

uninterracial 950 pts

In the neighborhood I grew up in, having a baby automatically gave a “girl” status- someone’s baby mama. When young girls turned up pregnant, the first question other girls would ask was, and this is verbatim, “Who your baby by?” Because see, they wanted to know if it was one of the more popular “boys” in the neighborhood; and perhaps they would look towards to having a relationship with that person depending on who it was. That in itself is sick, but I know people who did.

 

 I will never forget when my best friend was working at one of the local salons years ago and she had a young client that had a child. She was discussing a beef she had with another girl over the father of her child. The other young woman was actually jealous that this girl had a baby with this guy because he was “light skinned with good hair”. My friend’s client was proud of this fact and said, “She’s just mad because she’s not the one.” Mind you, he was laying up in her house, no job, and always in trouble. But he was an aspiring “rapper”. Barf.  I thought, wow, this what young black women in the hood aspire to do? Have a baby by a light skinned nigla??? Naw. But then again, look at Fantasia. SMH.

 

Getting (I say getting because let’s face it, nurture has gone out the window) a baby is a badge of honor for most of these girls. It ups their status in the hood because think about:

 

-They’re not married and probably can’t work due to lack of childcare, so they have to get on the system (Income)

 

-With that, they get on a waitlist for public housing and put in a temporary spot until a “better one” comes up (Shelter);

 

-Then ultimately, they receive Section 8 and now they pay 20% of the going rate for rental housing and get to work at the same time (Jackpot).  I used to work right next door to the Section 8 office and tell me, why people are rolling in Lexus’ and Escalades and I’m working full time driving a Honda?

 

And so, the children are forgotten. They are simply seen as a meal ticket. Anybody remember the movie Precious?

 

For a lot of black men in the hood, this is the woman you want. You can lay up in the house all day, sell drugs, go to jail, get out and come right back home.  I’ve seen this shit first hand over and over again.

 

This is not limited to girls who grew up in the PJ’s either. Two girls I grew up with did these very same things and they came from middle class homes near the PJ’s just like me. So what was the difference between me and them? My parents, particularly my dad. Both of these girls had no dad in site or a part time dad. Mine told me emphatically what the deal was when I was a pre-teen.  My feeling is that these girls that have OOW have never had that. Perhaps, that’s what they need.

tracyreneejones 3592 pts

 uninterracial I certainly realize this isn't specific to "PJ's types" I tried to imply ill-prepared to mean those who have no business/clue as to why or how they will accomplish becoming efficient and stable parents. Working things as as they go is the mind set and for many misguided and immature reasons.