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Okay ladies, this was sent to me, I reviewed it and co-sign. Enough is enough. Pass it on. (Slideshow credit Getty Images)
Okay ladies, this was sent to me, I reviewed it and co-sign. Enough is enough. Pass it on.
Not watching it. I can already predict what's on it lol!
Hooray for Hollywood. "Think" grossed $33M on a $13M budget. Gross is not net to Sony, the production/distribution company, but it will probably make back the budget by COB next weekend. Critics loved it, a couple of tie-in articles appeared, one in the Atlantic, most likely placed by studio flacks. It opened against lightweight offerings and a worn-out "Hunger Games". Good scheduling move. The book will be reprinted with a film-themed tie-in. Publicity machine worked better than it has in years. Hooray for Hollywood.
Like the Lewis Stone character, Dr. Otternschlag said in "Grand Hotel", "People come, people go. Nothing ever happens". Another sunny day in LA.
Law Wanxi You thought Hunger Games was lightweight? LOL
Haven't watched it but have heard that it's a pretty good teen movie of the science fiction/adventure genre. Will wait for it to come out on DVD.
Patricia Kayden Law Wanxi Hunger Games was soooo goood! Don't wait for it to come out on DVD, go to the movies and see it. It's not really a "teen" movie like those vampire flicks, it's actually a very mature story. I saw it with my sister and loved the flick; it is making big money at the box office for good reason.
Jamila Patricia Kayden Law Wanxi I agree! As a 2 1/2 hr action flick, it really is meant to be seen on the big screen.
My sister just called me up and offered to take me to go see the movie for free. I declined and told her why, but she's going to and see it anyway and that's her right.
If I ever write a book on relationships for men [given my high level of expertise in the matter, right up there with my expertise in lepidopterology and the Inuvialuktun language], I shall call it "Think like a woman, act like a man". It will sell six copies.
Law Wanxi That's about all the copies I ever sold, and my book was just about humanized Tom Cats ...
I saw the movie; to my credit I didn't pay for my ticket, but I honestly did not think that the movie was that bad. I actually think I prefer it to its white equivalent, 'He's Just Not That Into You.' And whoever that person is calling anyone women who have seen the movie self hating, you better keep that mess away from me, because it honestly makes you no different than these bashing black men. People have the right to partake in whatever they wish and still have progressive views as well as respect and esteem about themselves. You too would do well to give the women here the respect they deserve.
Anyway, I was interested in seeing the movie to see exactly how the characters are portrayed, and I was on a whole happy with what I saw. I'm not a fan of Chris Brown, so it annoyed me to no end to see him in the movie. And Kevin Hart as the comic relief, I will say this ... No matter what he says about black women. Ultimately he makes himself look worst with how he presents himself. I honestly pity him, because he does not know how to do anything without being depreciating to any one. So I'm not surprised at what he says about black women, because he makes himself look even more pathetic with how he portrays himself. I feel it goes far beyond him being a comedian.
But as we've discussed in previous topics, what a lot of us want to see in movies are more dynamic roles for black actresses -- seeing them progressive and desired and going through the trails and tribulations of the every day woman, not just the trails and tribulations of being someone's maid or sex toy. Whatever negativity there is aside, this movie actually provides some dynamic roles as well development and growth for all characters. Not only is the premise of the movie that women should vet men and demand respect from the men they consider for relationships, but It also shows the men to stepping up to the plate and being the type of partners that the women need. And there are tons of other positives examples I could list without *hopefully* spoiling the movie.
* There's an all star cast, giving work to black actresses (I don't remember the last time I saw Gabrielle Union in a major film!)
* All of the women in the movie are not just attractive but devastatingly stunning and psychically fit.
* They are all professional women who are doing well for themselves.
* There is not a maid or mammy in sight among the main characters.
* Nor a jezebel or sapphire. There is no eye rolling, neck rolling, finger snapping.
* They all have love interests, some more than one.
* No one is a doubty side-kick best friend.
* Every one lives happily ever after in the end.
This movie reminds me of those black marriage movies from the mid-to-late 90's like 'The Best Man' and 'The Wood', and there's another one that escapes me. Which are some of the last movies that showed black people in any kind of positive light. As people who are interested in marriage and relationships. As people who can be on the most part established, but just have one or two more things to figure out -- to be of course resolved at the end of the movie. So I also enjoyed that.
One thing I will note that I found very interesting was that of all the men, it was the white guy who was happily married throughout the movie, and the other white guy (and I'm not sure why it matters that he may have been Hispanic or Italian) was in the long term serious relationship. All the black men were just meeting their women for the first time. Except for Hart's character, but that's a spoiler.
But other than that and the other critiques I've mentioned, I have very few issues with this movie. It's just your run of the mill rom com with black characters. There are one or two things that I won't mention because they are blatant spoilers. But you know what, nothing is perfect, and I think this movie is a right lot better than anything Tyler Perry has put out. So to that I also give kudos.
Personally I don't listen to any of those rappers, or I don't even know them, their music or their commentary so I can't really comment on that. As for the movie, I think that's a more book/cover issue. Kevin Hart is not the only person in that movie. And I don't think it was his co stars responsibilities to slap him on the wrist for whatever he said. He got backlash from the general public which he will have to deal with. At the end of the day, I feel the comments from these people say a lot more about themselves than the people they are trying to put down. I honestly would not go out of my way to support any of them, not because of the actors or artist, but because I will sooner pirate whatever movie or song I want to enjoy and enjoy it in the comfort of my own home before I rough it at the theater.
We were waiting on line to be let in, come to find out people had already been going up to the theater and the place was crowded by the time we got there. We had to sit all the way up front. But I actually didn't mind because I have 20/40 vision and no glasses, lol.
VintageNarcissa Thanks for posting this in depth review. As I have posted before each woman has to make her own choice to see a film or not. I agree that you can watch a movie and still be progressive about black woman's issues. Like Chirs has said, we each have to chose the hill we decide to die on. A movie is just not that deep enough to make a big stink over.
Either go or not. It is your money. You earned it. Spend it as you may and keep it moving.
"A movie is just not that deep enough to make a big stink over."
I completely agree.
The only thing for me is that I did not really find any of the male characters attractive. Especially the dude they paired with Meagan Goode, yeesh he was ugly! lol They tried to compensate by having him have his shirt off a lot, but that did not help! Some of them were "a'ite," but not truly anything to behold. It was the girl crushes that got the forefront, because all of those women are gorgeous.
So I was on a whole just rooting for the women. Honestly, the only couple I was really rooting for was Gabby and her guy, for which I noticed their story line got the least air time (but then again, it was also the least complicated). I really liked Gabby's character because she was very quirky.
And I liked Taraji's story line as well. The other two played out like bad fan fiction. Bleh.
VintageNarcissa Thank you for the review. It gave me a better perspective of the movie.
VintageNarcissa Yeah. I think I'll go watch it. It did remind me of He's Just Not That Into You.
VintageNarcissa Good points. Everybody can make their own decisions. The movie never looked bad to me, I just don't like a couple of the people in it. You are making me want to go see it lol. I won't see it in the theater though. You are right..I liked "He's Just not that into you" (read the book too!) so it may be pretty decent.
"and I'm not sure why it matters that he may have been Hispanic or Italian"
Are you referring to what I said below?. I was just pointing it out because at first glance during the movie trailer I thought he was black lol. I just see things and point them out. I didn't mean to make it seem like I was making a big deal out of it. My boyfriend is straight up white bread..I'm talking Casper the ghost! lol. Dating an Italian or Latino man is still swirling though.
VintageNarcissa Thanks for the rational review. After all, it's just a movie; people aren't going to live or die because of it.
oops--the guy who made the vid LOVED The Cosby Show, it was House of Payne which was the COON--he didnt like Urkel, but i dont consider Urkel a bad character, just a 'NERD'
zipporah I loved "Family Matters". It was pretty much the last truly popular show featuring an entirely African American cast. The characters were normal middle class and the show was entertaining. I loved it as a kid.
Also, Urkel was not coonery-he was a true nerd. In fact, it was and remains surprising that a character that was so absolutely uncool could become so popular. No one expected that character to be THE star of the show.
Toni_M zipporah Don't forget the fresh prince of bel air that had an all black cast. In Living Color was the best sketch comedy of the 90's bar none. It was so diverse and it was all about unity through comedy.
WOW I just saw a vid on youtube called MODERN DAY COONS" not everything is a d**m joke---it's actually a rap thats not c/rap and very informative..dont know how to upload though--the guy i believe was a little hard on The Bill cosby show and Family Matters, but everything else was RIGHT ON---for instance POVICH with people from 'blackistan' etc.( dey luv y'all niggaz BET dey jus' luv.....)we gotta make better stuff
Unfortunately, it looks like "Think Like A Man" is going to be number one this weekend.
I went to watch Lockdown last night (extremely lame movie) and saw scores of smiling Black women leaving the TLAM. Overall, I don't think enough of us BW boycotted this movie to make a difference.
To be dead honest, I was going to go see this film over the weekend with friends, but now that I seen this vid, I won't be wasting my money. Sorry, not worth it. Seeing Kevin Hart's short behind calling me a broke ass dark hoe won't be in my plans. What is the matter with celebrity black men and the other non blk men that follow in that ignorance? I'm so happy I stopped watching TV altogether cause honestly, it does brainwash people into not thinking for themselves especially to black people, black women really. Its like we've been programmed into buying into this crap that todays entertainers, singers, actors fed us about ourselves and our well being. It honestly seems like in America, black women get treated like dirt from black men no matter what the issue, its not even worth having unity unless black men dig deep and figure out why they are programmed to say and do such ignorance!!! Goodness this makes me sick!! ugh!!!
What a good video. I already disliked and have NEVER supported most of the fools in this video, though a few have surprised me, ie Isaiah Mustafah. I was going to rent "Act like a woman, think like a man" when it came out on DVD, but now I won't even waste one cent of my money on that movie. It infuriates me when I see black women spending their money on things by men who disrespect black women and tear them down. And seeing what that punk Chris Brown said about that woman made me dislike him even more. And I never thought Kevin Heart was funny. And I never have, nor ever will support a rapper.
I won't take the "mother, sister, aunt" approach to black male disrespect. I have no problem disassociating my father from the black male collective. I've said before that men treat the women in their family different from how they treat women who aren't. Like one of you might have a brother who is supportive and great to you but would be an asshole to me. Its just a bad position to work from.
Anyway I boycott a lot of things these days including products, brands, shows, movies, restaurants, and anything I thought lacked integrity (hell I boycotted Whole Foods). The difference here is how entitled Black entertainers and entities think they are to black dollars. In fact I never hear about using new marketing strategies or new products to capture black consumers. Instead they try to condescend or guilt them, especially black women, into spending based on a race in common.
I wish more of these guys would come forward and be honest. The apology is worth no where near the money I save and the opportunity to support the alternative.
I didn't even know who Kevin Hart was until this article pointed him out. yeah I have seen him in a few things but no I don't find him funny or entertaining. I find it so funny that these people have to step on, degrade, and belittle people to make themselves feel better and make them feel as if they have arrived. All they're doing is playing themselves. It's truly sickening that as a black woman herself nicki minaj would even go there when she is plainly walking around with fake blonde hair and makeup. Hypocrits!! All of them. My first boycott was Wesley Snipes and apparently these people haven't learned from his downfall in the bw's pocket book and lip service. If we keep it up they will learn.
Looks like the ladies are turning out.
Brenda55 Ugh. How sad.
Brainwashed Gender Traitors and willing collaborators. Quislings of the new millennium; running dog lackeys of the evil DBR/BM cabal.
I have hundreds more, including some choice North Korean agit-prop stuff, if needed. The Norks and the old-school Cultural Revolution of Mao have some truly awesome slogans and epithets.
Law Wanxi Kels Brenda55 What's a 'running dog lackey'? - I've heard the term over and over, since I started to read Cold War propaganda-books in the 50s (my teens) ... and never understood it, except for the implied hate.
I won't be seeing it. Hadn't even heard of it until last night, lol.
I meant to ay that goes to show we aren't all lemmings.
WOW!!! I have heard most of these ignorant comments except for Toure's. His is the one (and only) that surprises me. I was under the assumption that he was somehow... Not a moron? I am pretty much on board with all the ladies who said they ever liked Kevin Hart. Thankfully, I have never supported any of the people in this video. I can't see how any self respecting Black person would. In 2012 I find it so hard to believe that there is no solidarity. Are some of us really still hung up on color complex issues and hair texture?I don't even know what Slim Thug is talking about. Him and Cassidy are inconsequential. I do find it ironic though, that someone who looks like a gremlin (on a good day) would have the utter audacity to open his rotten mouth and talk about his CHILD like that. God help her. I'll take comfort in the fact that the ladies here feel the same way I do. That goes to show that lemmings. Keep up the good work Christelyn!!!
It's sick that these men forget that their mothers, sisters, aunts, are all Black Women. To think a father can say such negative things about his own daughter. Shame on you Lil Wayne.
I have seen this video sometime back and it is thumbs up worthy. I love the comparison of Don Imus and Nicki Minaj. I never liked Kevin Hart never thought he was funny at all. I support those that support me.
@mdiva2002 I am so with you on Kevin Hart not being funny...even before all of this, I thought he was played out and corny as hell....I mean, they were doing his type of acts back in the 90's....it's been done and he is not even remotely funny to me
Nope, he is so not funny. I make a point of not giving my money, time or attention to anything or anyone that will put black females in a negative and stereotypical light.
Successful black men are kind of extinct? Well I guess you can't blame me for looking elsewhere now, can you? Kevin Hart and Lil' Wayne are booty ass ugly. Thank goodness his daughter looks like her cute, dark-skinned mother instead of that creature. Fathers are supposed to be important for girls' self esteem. I feel sorry for Reginae because of the things her father says about dark-skinned women like her and her mother.
YouTube is a godsend because I don't have to pay for my music. I even avoid Vevo since the sound on those videos is too low, so the artists aren't even getting Google revenue from me clicking on their videos.
Why are people still using the term "good hair" in 2012? They sound like uneducated, self-hating slaves.
Also, I want to share this on my facebook but I feel as though black women & girls will not be receptive to it or think I have some sort of hidden agenda since my boyfriend is white. Some people feel like you lose all your credibility when it comes to "black issues". They won't listen because they can just write you off as some self hating white man worshiper or something smh. I know people pay more attention to the messenger than they do the actual message sometimes.
MySmile I hope that you change your mind, and decide to post on your facebook page. Your choice of mate has absolutely nothing to do with sharing information about damaged black males. A woman of reasonable intelligence would deduce that one reason you didn't choose a black male is because of the examples in the video. And black girls, well, that would present a teaching moment for them.
modernmystic I definitely posted the video to mines...so sick and tired of caring what others think...bump them!
modernmystic ShunJack You both are right...they think what they want to think I guess... I didn't hesitate to put it on youtube....Facebook is just where I have people who have known me for years. I have a sister and some cousins who are in healthy relationships with black men so I'm pretty sure they won't be offended.. and they are the only people who really affect my life. Anyone who gets mad will get mad because it applies to them! This is too real not to be posted!!!!
@MySmile @modernmystic did you put this video together?
ShunJack Oh no, sorry about the confusion. I have a youtube channel too though and I posted it as a bulletin/shared it on my channel. I hope the word really gets out about it!
LOL @ White man worshiper!
After looking at this again....I have to admit that what the rapper slim thug said annoyed me the most! WTF is that bs that he's talkin? Some black men have the meaning of a good black man screwed up. Just because you are not in jail, it doesn't mean that you are hot sh*t. That doesn't even begin to make someone a good man because that should be a given! They expect us to kiss the feet of any black man who has a few dollars in his pocket and has some new shoes on? PLEASE, The REAL good black men (some of our dads, family members, acquaintances) don't say things like that about women because they don't want to or have to. Talk about being a womanizer!! Sorry, my boyfriend loves me and cooks ME dinner! I don't have to bow down to him. That statement is just another reason why black women need to expand their options.Some of these men need their egos deflated big time..Once black women stop babying them they will be SOL. You shouldn't have to fight over a man like a wild animal..this ain't no competition! Get a man who will try to win YOU over..not the other way around.
Is it bad that I'm about to see this movie tonight...? lmaoooooo
I went to see the movie Red Tails because I wanted to share that experience with my husband and Dad. Got raked over the coals on some sites because I admitted that. Did not hold true enough to the cause I guess. I am going to be the last one to do that to anyone else. Isn't this all about each woman making the best choices for her self given her situation?
That said it is your call and your dime. Have fun.
ImaniScully Since you asked, yes.
modernmystic It was funny, I liked it. Kill me.
ImaniScully Not going to jail to kill a self-hating black woman
modernmystic Wow, no need for the name calling. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and to make their own decisions...I'm not going to see the movie but my sister probably will.. That doesn't mean I'm going to bash her. I may watch it if it ever comes out on netflix because even though I have issues with some of the men who will be in this movie (I'm looking at you, Chris Brown and Kevin Hart!!..the other men are okay with me), I like the female actresses (Taraji, Gabrielle,etc) ...so I kind of want to see what the movie is like.
Also, from the movie poster, it looks like Gabrielle Union may be doing some swirling in this movie, so that's a plus! I think the guy she's with is Italian or Latino or something. I hope he's not a jerk in the movie though lol.
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