Is There A Fine Line Between Spirituality And Insanity?

Is There A Fine Line Between Spirituality And Insanity?

“Last year was the climax of my awakening from the nightmare of poisonous religious beliefs. One incident that led to my escape was an update on the life of someone who was a committed and strong Christian…”

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Reading Jamila’s post conjured up memories that I had of my holy rollin days. It was a time in my life filled that I wish I could “revise.” Here is a post I wrote in 2008 that sheds some light on my spiritual awakening:

Last year was the climax of my awakening from the nightmare of poisonous religious beliefs. One incident that led to my escape was an update on the life of someone who was a committed and strong Christian. Before I get to the point, I should give you some background info. While away at college, I became friendly with a group of Christians who never allowed themselves to be tainted with the hedonistic ways of the secular youth on campus. I’ll never forget the Christian couple who brought their preteen daughter with them to our meetings. Here they were, a married mother and father together in harmony with their child.

This young lady was on fire for the Lord. She prayed, eloquently quoted scripture, and was basically a good girl. I can still remember her mother telling me how proud she was of her. She was the type of girl whom you knew had a bright future in Christendom. It was September of last year when I found out what had become of this young lady. The young soldier for Christ who seemed so rock solid in her faith ended up committing suicide. She had been diagnosed as schizophrenic in her early 20′s. It’s been about 10 months since I heard the news, but I can’t stop pondering the all important question. WHAT HAPPENED?

Was the “fire” we witnessed her schizophrenic disorder all along? Did she develop it later? And if so, how could a christian end up with such a debilitating mental disorder? After all, doesn’t the bible speak of a renewed mind? I should stress that I don’t know what really caused her disease. I suspect that her condition developed much later than when I last saw her. The problem is, there is a huge and sometimes dangerous problem within pentecostal/charismatic circles (I’d say charismatics much more so). You would not be hard pressed to hear people claim, “God spoke to my heart” or “the Lord told me…” so on and so on. Now what is schizophrenia?

It most commonly manifests as auditory hallucinations, paranoid or bizarre delusions or disorganized speech and thinking in the context of significant social or occupational dysfunction.

Auditory hallucinations…delusions? Would those symptoms include, God told me… The Lord spoke to me…? That is not to say that all pents and charismatics are mentally ill. However, there are some Christians who frown on the two groups while maintaining that God only speaks through his word (i.e. just read the bible instead of chasing after a voice). To them, looking for a voice or a sign is both foolish and unbliblical. Was the young lady who took her life a victim of the “God told me” doctrine? That is likely the case, IMO.

Sadly, her story left me hesitant of embracing certain aspects of prayer and faith. Rationality has taken root in my life and I feel much better now. I’m not an atheist nor an agnostic, but I simply cannot go along with the madness that’s found in some forms of Pentecostalism.

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Mocha Belle 5 pts

I always thought it was weird when people used to say "God" spoke to them or wanted them to do something in particular. Never made sense to me. Oh, well. Doesn't matter, I've been an atheist since I was a teenager.

Mark_H 247 pts

Excellent question, and one that I fear we will struggle with forever. Joan of Arc was almost certainly schizophrenic, as was the parent who recently drowned her children on the order of an angel. How can we tell, how can any court ever decide?

Shenikwa 71 pts

I believe that God never twists His words. It usually is not God Himself that turns others away, but the church or people involved in the church. I've been around organized religion for a long time. I've practiced several of them, and found that religion leaves a lot to be desired, but have found my relationship with Christ most fufilling. I think tha we place too much value on what others do, say, believe, act instead of leaning and learning from the Word itself. There are many false teachers out there. But we have to judge for OURSELVES, not them. That rightous judgement belongs to God. I love the saying though that going to church and being a Christian is like standing in a garage makes you a car. Very very true.

jameswschroff 7 pts

Shenikwa Excellent!!!!!! We must recognize that we are told by Jesus to love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength.....and love our neighbor as ourselves. Later on Jesus said, "You are to love others like I love them. If we spent more time helping those who fell to get back up, instead of pointing out that they fell, maybe the world would see that God really is love....that Jesus expressed that love by example and giving His all so we could become the children of God, and joint heirs with Jesus. I agreed with all you wrote, keep writting!!

jameswschroff 7 pts

James W Schroff...No matter what someone else says they believe, how others act, how many leaders commit acts againsy members, even children, leaders who steal, the Jim Jones;s of the world, I know that God is a good God who loves me and cares for me. There are those who fake speaking in tongues, prophesing lies, lusting after money instead of God's will, preaching messages to control people, but know this,,,,,if you see it faked, it;s because they are imitating the real. No one has ever counterfited a 12 dollar bill, Why?, because there are no REAL 12 DOLLAR BILLS.

Being a Christian means you should act like Christ. It's not a religion, it's a relationship. Jesus said,"My sheep hear my voice, and the voice of a stranger they will not follow. Shepherds came together at night with all their sheep, in the morning, each sheperd would call his sheep, and the sheep would follow. Why, because they knew his voice. Going to "Church" will not make you a Christian, anymore than sleeping in you :garage" will make you a car. God does still speak, and what He speaks will always line up with the written Word (Bible)

2nd Timothy 2:15 say,"Study (God's Word) to show your self approved unto God, a workman that needs not to be ashamed, rightly understanding the Word of Truth".

amiar10 362 pts

jameswschroff Agreed, wholeheartedly! I'm not gonna lie, this entire post rubs me the wrong way. Why write off Christianity as a whole because you ran into one skewed collective? It is indeed tragic that such a young girl lost her life-- only a year older than me. However, her parents were in the wrong for not getting her treatment. Schizophrenia is not solely limited to audiovisual hallucinations, so there were most likely other signs. 1 Corinthians 15:46 clearly says "first natural, then spiritual." This family's failure to properly recognize that their daughter needed professional help has nothing to do with the belief system of Christianity-- just their poor choice in congregation membership and sheepish adherence to a church not in line with God's word. Muddling the two together smells of cognitive dissonance.

SirLoinDeBeef 2653 pts

My now-grown daughter, raised Quaker, converted to the Assembly-of-God (Pentacostal) church upon marrying her 1st spouse - at the urging of her patriarch-of-family husband, I was offered salvation if I immediately joined their church ... and expulsion to the outer darkness, total separation, as an Agent-of-Satan, if I refused - that was 15 years ago.

As a result, I composed a song (modified from the version played & sung by The Rosinators):

Oblivion, Oh Gideon, show me the way,

How did it come to this? Won’t you help me, Lord above.

The hypocrites curse me … the bigots want my blood;

What happened to the olive and the dove?

CHORUS:

I’m called REP-robate, by the church-folk and their leader;

I’m called REP-robate, predestined to be Damned;

I’m called REP-robate, unworthy of Salvation;

God’s judgment reserved, but forced by man.

I thought I’d found … some answers to my questions;

Prayer group and quiet talk, dissent welcomed and allowed.

But sent to Hell and turned to stone, ‘fore Christ’s Gestapo let me go;

Held me down an’ prayed on, like a beast!

CHORUS;

'Nuff said - I won't comment on this again.

NATruthstudent 1605 pts

Jesus of Nazareth reportedly said, "Know the Truth, and it will set you free." In that light, I present my perspective:

http://donricejr.blogspot.com/2012/02/on-belief-faith-and-truth.html

ForeverSerenity 340 pts

Sometimes it is difficult for some people to separate what they believe and what actually is. It is unfotunate when someone else's actions prevent anyone from knowing for themselves, what God's love truly is. There are fanatics in every aspects of our society. Some people really and truly live what they believe, and some will take it to the extreme. Blaming God seems to be the easy way out for many. I'm glad you are at a place where you are comfortable with what you believe (or not) and I hope your spiritual journey dontinues.