Becoming Kerry Gabrielle Michelle

Becoming Kerry Gabrielle Michelle

Some women have “it” and some just don’t. By “it” I mean the motivation, willpower, and means to become women who everyone admires, emulates, and reveres as “the best when compared to the rest”. These are the women who respectable, successful, and admiration-worthy people of all races hold up as examples of the type of woman or Black woman they wish all Black women could be. Let’s call her “Kerry Gabrielle Michelle”.

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Note: Let’s be nice and respectable. Just to be safe, people with low self-esteem and self-worth issues, feminists, and people who don’t like me should skip this post. This post is not for little Black girls either ;)

Some women have “it” and some just don’t. By “it” I mean the motivation, willpower, and means to become women who everyone admires, emulates, and reveres as “the best when compared to the rest”. These are the women who respectable, successful, and admiration-worthy people of all races hold up as examples of the type of woman or Black woman they wish all Black women could be. Let’s call her “Kerry Gabrielle Michelle.” Kerry Gabrielle Michelle has the femininity of Kerry Washington, the beauty of Gabrielle Union, and the intelligence, success, and nurturing qualities of Michelle Obama (please don’t make this a colorism debate). Substitute Kerry Gabrielle Michelle with Condoleeza Janet Sanna, or Diana Naomi Oprah, or  Zoe Nia Claire (Huxtable) or WHOEVER you want…focus on the IDEAS please not the specific examples, don’t be so literal, use your imagination! To some the mere thought of trying to become Kerry Gabrielle Michelle causes outrage. How dare someone suggest that there is an ideal Black woman who is better than others, all women are equal! Who decided on the qualities this woman should have? This is based on the White patriarchy and puts undue pressure on women to live up to an unattainable ideal! Why strive to be an ideal, you are perfect just the way you are! You must have low self-esteem if you feel the need to achieve some ideal, what’s the matter with you? Well you see, if you have these reactions, you obviously don’t have “it”. You don’t have the motivation, willpower, or means to be the best when compared to the rest. Some women don’t want to be commoners…they want the throne.

Let me explain, some people are just better than others (i.e., above average) in ways that improve their quality of life and keeps them happier than other people for longer periods of time. These better qualities allow them to do better in school and at work, it gets them better treatment from others, they are looked up to by others, and they are put in positions of power and influence. Being better often makes their lives better. The key is that they are better in the eyes of people who matter to them, especially those who have the power to improve their lives. Some people are lucky and they were born better. For example, some people are born leaders who have charisma. Others are born so beautiful that everyone assumes they have other good qualities due to the “halo effect“. Others have skills and talents that are above average that allow them to enter high paying professions or become leaders in their industries. Some people were just blessed to be born into families with the means and connections that allow them to achieve whatever they want in life even if it isn’t deserved. These people are LUCKY and they have PRIVILEGE because they were either born with skills and revered qualities or born into families that paved the way to their being better than the rest.

So, for the rest of us who are less lucky and privileged…we have to work and maybe work really hard to be the best. That’s the reality for most people. When one of us average people has “it” we are motivated to work hard to achieve the status of the lucky and privileged people mentioned above. We are willing to do what it takes to achieve the best status and life. We do not settle and accept our lot, we want what they have plain and simple. On the other hand, those without “it” will accept their lot in life, won’t try to improve, and believe that they can never become better than the rest. Maybe they were born with this mentality but I think many have learned to think this way. Of course let’s just excuse those who are extremely poor, abused, barely getting by etc. because I don’t want this to turn into a debate about those issues. I’m ONLY talking about women who could be way better if they wanted to and have the time and means. Actually, some self-improvements can be done for free or very cheaply (e.g., reading a book or blog), or they may be attainable if women diverted more of their time and money towards these self-improvement goals (socializing and networking instead of watching reality TV).

Acceptable Changes: I think that in many Western countries some forms of self-improvement are accepted without question and no one implies that a person has low self-esteem, self-hatred, or they are fake for making those improvements. For instance, it’s acceptable to go to school, get job training, start a business, seek a promotion/raise, lose 10 pounds, take medicine or improve one’s health, wear nice clothes, get one’s hair cut and styled, wear some makeup, socialize, get a loan, learn a language for work, travel, seek a nice home in a nice neighborhood, go to church, date, get married, have kids etc. ALL of these are OPTIONAL things that people choose to do because they feel they are rewarding in some way (for this article let’s ignore people who get these things by accident). No one assumes a person has low self-esteem, self-hatred, or is being fake when they make these changes. But many of these acts are following social norms and conforming to ideals about what people are supposed to do.

Unacceptable Changes: In contrast, there are things that people with “it” are willing to do that are not accepted in the same way as the actions above. For some strange reason, if you actively try to improve in certain ways or actively achieve certain life goals people will say you have low self-esteem, hate yourself, your’re a fake or that you are crazy. For instance, some people frown upon seeking therapists for life problems in favor of figuring things out yourself because “that’s what adults do”. Others frown on online dating, singles events, reading relationship books, or socializing for the purpose of meeting a partner in favor of “letting the universe bring you a man”. To them, learning is fine to get good grades or a job but it’s desperate if you do it to get an above average man. Everyone wears clothing and having a personal style is appreciated my many, as long as you are not dressing to attract/gain acceptance from other above average or important people. In that case people will say, “you should be dressing for you not to look a certain way to appear high class or attract the men you want”. Learning a language is fine, but learning to speak proper English so that you sound educated is wrong. Traveling for fun or to see another culture is fine, but travelling to find a man is desperate. Changing yourself to become more acceptable to people with power and influence is considered fake and ridiculous despite the great advantages this can bring to one’s life. Any woman attempting to be more feminine in order to attract men or gain acceptance must be a misogynist or a submissive religious nut. Trying to conform to beauty standards is almost seen as a mental illness even though women have been doing it for centuries, everyone is more attracted to beautiful women, studies have shown attractive people tend to be treated better, the media promotes it heavily, and stores are filled with beauty products.

The difference is that people often make the Acceptable Changes because they are considered normal or the opportunity arises so they take it. Or they are those LUCKY people who who don’t have to work to get great things in life (they don’t recognize their privilege) so they think it’s weird that others have to work so hard for the same things. One has to consciously think and plan a strategy to achieve goals before they make the Unacceptable Changes. It takes research about what works, deciding to do things for different reasons than other people, spending time on things other people don’t, and using willpower and purpose to achieve a goal rather than just letting things happen, or waiting for the universe to make it happen. Many people think this planning and goal setting is unnatural and therefore wrong because it’s just too calculating for them. They think there are certain things people don’t have to work hard for (again their privilege may be showing). That’s because those people don’t have “it”. They are the kind of people who won’t work hard to achieve things, just accept life as it comes, and expect to be given what they need by chance or divine intervention. You know you are talking to one of these people because as soon as you mention your plans they say “that’s too much work”, “just pray for it”, “or I don’t have to do that so you shouldn’t have to.” People with “it” make life happen, they don’t wait. They are open to doing something new or different to achieve their goals.

As a Black woman you will receive STRONG opposition from WOMEN when it comes to changing your public image to appear like Kerry Gabrielle Michelle (again, please don’t make this a colorism debate). If you mention wanting to do things to appear smarter, more successful, more respectable, or better than you really are people will think you need therapy. They ignore the fact that many successful, above average people (including Kerry, Gabrielle, and Michelle) work very hard on their image and created a public image to achieve their goals. Above average women go to etiquette school, life coaches, therapists, personal stylists, and even church to become better people. Models and actors exercise and eat healthy to maintain their figures and they have personal stylists. Celebrities and wealthy people wear neat and clean clothing that is often tailored to fit them perfectly. Other people go to voice coaches and learn how to speak properly. People get braces and whiten their teeth. I’m not going to criticize Black women for using relaxers or weaves anymore because they are just trying to be what they think is attractive. You can learn how to dress, walk, speak, and interact better with others. There are so many self-help books and videos out there to deal with any problem of self-improvement issue you have. You can be WAY better than you are. What’s stopping some women from being better? There are many excuses but people with “it” easily ignore these excuses because they want to be the best so badly they are willing to remake themselves into something better. The ends justify the means. They believe that the means will get them what’s important, the happy life they want, so they don’t blow a gasket at the idea of getting a makeover and learning how to get along better with others. They have their eye on the prize and to them, all the excuses are just noise.

Here are some common excuses I’ve heard Black women use when when the idea of improving their image comes up…what’s your excuse?

I shouldn’t have to improve my image. People should accept me just the way I am.

Society is the one that needs to change not me.

This is excessive. I’m not a celebrity so why should I have to work so hard on my image?

Where do we draw the line? What if people go overboard and start getting plastic surgery, starving themselves, and bleaching their skin to look White?

Looking feminine and learning etiquette is just acting White. Black femininity and etiquette is different.

This is dangerous and it will make people have low self-esteem and not think they are good enough.

Who defines what the ideal black woman is? If there is no agreement then what do we strive for?

You are blaming the victims of racism and sexism and putting the onus on them to change.

This is just being fake, you should always be yourself because the real you will come out sooner or later.

What’s wrong with Black women the way they are?

White women don’t have to do this so why should Black women do it?

All those celebrities look good to the public but they really aren’t like that. They have all sorts of issues that they keep hidden so they really aren’t that perfect. Don’t ever try to look like celebrities.

It doesn’t matter what individual Black women do, the media has to change because they are always showing the negative stereotypes.

It won’t make a difference anyway. Racists will still think Black women are horrible no matter how good they look or how nice they act.

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MZ Elf 2728 pts

Wow, I just had this convo with my daughter yesterday. She talked about some of her experiences and I shared with her some of the exact sentiments here. I wish more women and young women would see how much better people treat you of any racial make up when you are more polished, feminine and dress nicely. It does not mean conformity in any ways since I advocate wearing natural hair, a flair in fashion and to create your own personal look and style. Weight and how you feel and look in your clothes and out has a huge impact on how you experince life IMO. Again, this isn't about extremes because I love my curves and natural body structure. Same thing with the idea that it is a sin to put on make up. So many bw that I know don't wear it even to enhance. I go very natural at times and I doll up all the way up other times. I just know that when I make the effort, I am treated well and enjoy the smiles and head nods from both men and women who appreciate my effort or style.

MySmile 4175 pts

Michelle Obama is the ultimate role model in my opinion... She's beautiful, intelligent, fit/healthy (not starving herself), compassionate, and most importantly happy (she likes to dance, let loose, be silly, and have fun!).... I like to be myself, but with a dash of these ladies whenever needed...A dash of Beyonce when I'm on the dance floor, wearing a hot outfit, or trying to run the world :-)....a bit of "The girl next door" (Tia and Tamera, Tatyana Ali in "Fresh Prince")..the list goes on....Thanks for the inspiration!

MySmile 4175 pts

I've actually thought about taking etiquette classes...my dad tried to teach me the right fork and all that, but I was too busy rolling my eyes lol. I also have minor speech issues (a slight lisp) ...not sure how much money it would take to fix that! lol... From time to time, I have people ask me to repeat what I said or say "I didn't understand a word you just said" (this is mainly when I'm excited and start talking fast) and it's hurtful, annoying, and discouraging even if they didn't mean it that way. It makes me not want to speak at all..... I also talk in circles sometimes and am long winded (takes me forever to get to the point!). I've have had a former friend make fun of my speech behind my back.... .For these reasons, I'm not very confident when speaking to most people.....  I'm not ghetto (though slightly country) and know how to be professional... I do practice when speaking to the customers at my retail job and I do pretty well, but I need some work... I try to speak as clearly as possible but at times it's a challenge (I have to almost "overpronunciate" if that makes any sense).... I'm going to have to learn the free way for now lol

Dandelion100 590 pts

@MySmile Oh my gosh I have the same problem. I talk fast and I have a slight stutter. My vocabulary is fine and I am articulate, but I have stuttered since I was a kid. I'm not sure if there is anything I can do about it though...A long time ago on MTV I watched a show called True Life: I Stutter, and some people have it really bad, like they can't say a sentence without stuttering, even with therapy. Thankfully it isn't that bad for me but I feel exactly like you do, like I don't want to talk at all because I might stutter or someone might not understand what I say. Yeah it sucks. This is why I could never have a job as a phone operator lol.

MySmile 4175 pts

@Dandelion100 I used to have a friend who had a really bad stutter (almost every sentence) so I know what you're talking about. Of course its possible to get by with a minor stutter. I also love the show True Life! People have actually told me I have a good phone voice & also that my voice mail is very professional sounding (again, I have to put a bit of effort into it though...and make sure I'm clear, but I do what I have to. I might as well start now before I have a real job lol. Ugh I'm sorry you have to go through that too (not wanting to speak). I usually speak pretty slowly (but have to speak even more slowly when trying to be as articulate as possible.. I usually begin talking faster at the end of my sentence or if I'm really into what I'm talking about lol...Maybe there are some things you can do to try to minimize your stutter....I think the best practice would be during your everyday life/ conversations..It's probably not that bad so if you commit to practicing maybe it will get a little better. People can probably tell that people like you and I don't have much confidence about our speaking but there are things we can do to build that confidence...I'm getting better so just give it a try..hopefully it will become second nature

MySmile 4175 pts

@dandelion100 I tried to become more aware of what I was saying and how I was talking...when I talk I try to step outside of myself and ask myself if I was someone else would I know what I'm saying..lol I even try to make sure I understand myself..hearing wise...not because what I said is already in my mind and I know what I'm saying/ trying to say..making sure I hear myself clearly..hope that makes sense..also I'm doing this from my phone & its very difficult but I tried lol

The Working Home Keeper 6638 pts

 Dandelion100  MySmile "I don't want to talk at all because I might stutter or someone might not understand what I say."

 

I just wanted to give you ladies a virtual ((hug)).  We've dealt with speech issues with our children, so I'm kind of sensitive to those with speech struggles.  And my husband is slightly tongue-tied and worries about not being understood (he's on the phone a lot with his job).  Strangely enough, I've never had a problem understanding him! 

MySmile 4175 pts

 The Working Home Keeper  Aww, thanks for the hug!! It's a sensitive issue for me too especially since my ex friend decided to put that online thinking I wouldn't see it...I think in a way, I'm still hurt over that. You know your husband better than most, so maybe you can understand him more...but then again, you never had a problem understanding him so maybe you're just a good listener! I had very few problems understanding my friend who stuttered a lot....not sure how that happens!   Did you take your children to a speech therapist or did the problems go away on their own?

The Working Home Keeper 6638 pts

 MySmile Our oldest started speech therapy when she was 3 years old and finished right before entering kindergarten.  She's 9 years old now and you would never know she had speech issues when she was younger.  With our youngest, we tried to get him connected with a therapist through the school system when he was 3, but it didn't work out.  So, we utilized a private therapist for him until he started kindergarten.  He's now working with the speech therapist at his elementary school and doing great!  Our middle child always passed the speech screenings and testing, so he never had therapy.  But, we just learned (through our dentist surprisingly!) that he is slightly tongue tied like my husband.  Our youngest had tongue tie release surgery a few years back, so we're considering doing the same for our oldest son.

 

 

 
MySmile 4175 pts

 The Working Home Keeper I wonder if that type of thing is hereditary....I had no idea there was a such thing as tongue tie release surgery! I looked up the causes of a lisp and one cause is having an overbite (which I do) and another is that your tongue protrudes between your teeth (it does lol)

kia 2146 pts

This message is for Elegance. I also left this message on your web site. I know we have disagreed on things in the past. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on some topics. I don't want to have internet wars with you. Enough black women do that already in real life. I wish you the best in finding your partner in life. I do like your site and some of the articles you posted - The importance of black women being feminine - because the black community doesn't teach that to black women. Its great to come to sites where black women discuss adult topics rather than celeb drama like some of the other black sites. And I do like this article about black women looking to other black women as inspiration. And using them as a tool of how to become successful.

Elegance 2096 pts

 kia Thanks Kia, okay lets have peace :)

TamekaMacon 176 pts

EXCELLENT post Elegance. I so enjoy your reading your thoughts and advice.

BeautyIAM 1293 pts

Honestly Elegance, I wanted to get defensive when I first saw this. Then I thought "wait a minute. What are you trying to say?" One thing about the women you mentioned that I LOVE and ADORE is that they are intelligent. By far, that is the best quality about all of them. I love intelligent black women I can aspire to be. No one can mess with your mind when you know the truth. 

 

As for myself, I definitely know there is room for improvement. I always imagine myself looking a certain way and them comparing myself to what I actually look like. Its a complete 180. Haha. For example, I am a terrible conversationalist! I know it sounds crazy to say you are bad at conversation, but I am. I think the one thing that does hold me back is typical childhood insecurities that I am still working on. For people in my shoes, I would suggest baby steps to improving yourself. NOT just on the outside, but on the inside as well. The inside is what really counts. There is this one celeb that I think about. I won't mention her name because then I'll be a "hater." To me she is all looks and no personality, no intelligence, no nothing. She just entertains and thats it. Beyond boring to me. Other than being able to exude femininity, she does nothing for me.

 

This also makes me think about that Jack and Jill cotillions that some black people are involved in. I know they it gets flack, but I think its cute to see young black women and men looking so beautiful, handsome, and poised.  

 

 @Kia, I am also one of those black girls that was just naturally thin. I had to drink Ensure as a kid because I was so thin. I think its important for black people to not assume that other black people are "losing their curves to look white." I actually never had them. LOL. But I have to stress that WE ALL COME IN DIFFERENT SHAPES AND SIZES.  Kerry is actually a very healthy eater and was actually a vegan at one point. Are skinny black women threatening to some??? I only ask because this is what happened to Jennifer Hudson. She lost "too much" weight for some people. OMG. The comments were interesting. 

The Working Home Keeper 6638 pts

 BeautyIAM "Are skinny black women threatening to some??? I only ask because this is what happened to Jennifer Hudson. She lost "too much" weight for some people."

 

That would be an interesting topic of discussion! 

MySmile 4175 pts

 The Working Home Keeper  BeautyIAM I know! I personally think Jennifer Hudson looks great!! As far as I know, she still eats!

MySmile 4175 pts

 The Working Home Keeper  BeautyIAM Some black women are born with thin bodies, some have to work at it, but as long as someone is healthy, I don't care. People annoy me when they say Jennifer Hudson is too small.. I think she's a good size for her body type...People were saying the same thing about Jordin Sparks.  On the other hand, they also trash talked these women when they were bigger...damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess. There is no "one size fits all" for black women...we come in various shapes and sizes just like everyone else...

KingsDaughter 4673 pts

 MySmile  The Working Home Keeper  BeautyIAM  Jennifer Hudson and Jordin both look so fabulous. They just glow!!

Butterfly1 601 pts

 BeautyIAM

 Kerry Washington is beautiful period.  Her face and body.  Not even open for discussion.

DeepWater 2465 pts

Obviously, I'm off today, boyfriend doing "back end" work at the shop.

 

We'll be catchin' that Academy Awards a little bit tonight, probably boring as usual, just want to check out dresses and jewels and some of the purdy men folk, lol.  

 

Will also check out, I know this sounds crazy, the Daytona 500 with Danica Patrick in pole (not the stripper kind, lol) position, in front, qualified at 200mph to beat the boys to land that position, historic.   We'll see, 500 miles is long ass way to hang with boys, especially, if there's jealousies, somebody will try and put her ass into the wall (intentional wreck).   I wish her good luck, she gon' need it, she'll have to be a drivin' ass to get to that checked flag, that's what's up, bwahahahahaha.

 

LOVE you all, nothin' but love for y'all, really.  Gotta handle Sunday errands, later.

Elegance 2096 pts

 DeepWater Have a great Sunday!

 

Oooo yes, any ladies who want to see women conducting themselves well in public and looking their absolute best should turn into the pre-awards shows. Look for ideas about how to stand, walk, smile, greet people, and dress in a feminine, elegant, and sophisticated manner...but of course only if you are into such things. It's fine if you aren't interested :)

The Working Home Keeper 6638 pts

 DeepWater I think Danica definitely held her own on Sunday!  At the end, I was kind of hoping she would pull out and make a charge for the front and bring home the victory for Stewart-Haas Racing.  But, she made a good point in her post race interview.  She said if she pulled out of the draft, she probably wouldn't have had any help and just got shuffled to the back.  So, she played it more conservatively.   

 
DeepWater 2465 pts

 The Working Home Keeper   She was AWESOME!   Came in 8th of a field of around 150 cars, homegirl was DOIN' IT.   Yeah, I saw part of it toward end and, yeah,she'd have gotten pulled back had she not had (pull behind another cars' wake) draft.  Proud of her.  I find inspiration wherever it is, she held her own, she is a credible and very real threat, she hung with best of the veterans.   She's a badass driver, lol. Look forward to seeing her win sometime in the, relative, near future.   Little girls of all stripes will look at her say to themselves, maybe, I want to try that (very hard work).  She is woman to keep our eye on for sure, I'm proud.

Kiwiwriter 615 pts

First impressions are lasting, and you have only ONE chance at that first impression. If you screw that up, you're in trouble forever, so it makes sense to present yourself at your absolute best the first time you meet somebody.

 

Joe DiMaggio said it best, late in his career, "I play so hard because there might be one person out there who is seeing me play for the very first time."

 

So I agree with this...be yourself, but be yourself at your absolute best. And if they're racists...well, surprise and astonish them.

Avoc42883 1228 pts

This is a great post.  I think its absolutely hilarious that the same folks who will join in screaming "we are not a monolith!"  will default to "aw hell naw dat's some white girl sh*t" the second you propose a viewpoint THEY themselves don't agree with or simply find too difficult or challenging. 

DeepWater 2465 pts

I said this in the other post "A Self-Proclaimed DBR Black Woman Reaches Out To Us, It's A Birdseye View Into Some Of Us Are The Way We Are" about a sista with serious demons eating at her and has, unfortunately, been trespassed upon (rape, manipulation and control matters) and her ultimate thanks for and to Christelyn and company for helping her to, maybe, begin to come through.

 

Not that it means anything to anybody but me, I listen to this song, among many others, at least once per day.  I FEEL it, not just the beat, but its heartfelt "message".

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kPFrQPdKPM

 

 

 

 

ShyVi 311 pts

Okay. Confession time. I am an unemployed middle-aged woman. I have let myself go over the years because of low self-esteem and fear with self-loathing added for bad measure. I have some college education but no degree. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I let fear keep me from being the person I dreamed of becoming since I was a child. I don't know WHERE this fear came from but I know I am RESPONSIBLE for my current situation. When I discovered this site, I believed, (and still do), that there is a spirit of comraderie and honest but civil discourse here. We may have varying life stories, but we all want better lives for ourselves. I am struggling right now, however, I believe it's not too late for me to rediscover the passion of life I once had before I veered off track. And, it is thanks to you ladies on BBW, and the self-help books and sites I have been reading, that I feel I still have a chance in spite of my fears. Just wanted to share.

Elegance 2096 pts

 ShyVi There are so many great things you can do with your life starting now. Even a few simple things so that you can go to sleep feeling good and that things are better today than they were yesterday. It won't happen overnight but even changing you thinking can bring a lot of happiness to your life :)

ShyVi 311 pts

@Elegance Thank you for your encouragement, Elegance. I have taken a few small steps recently. I signed up for a free online course at Coursera, and I am trying to face some of the fears I have dealt with most of my life. One step at a time!

Kiwiwriter 615 pts

 ShyVi Don't give up...I have self-loathing and low self-esteem, but I rely on concepts of "duty" and "honor" to keep me going, rather than giving up. They do help.

MixedUpInVegas 1654 pts

 ShyVi

 My dear Shy, take it from an old lady, it's NEVER too late!  As long as you're still breathing, there's hope for something better in life.  Fear is a self-imposed limitation; it is not the result of social injustice or some exterior limitation--it comes from within.  The good news is that since it is self-imposed, you can free yourself. 

 

You have my best wishes for your newfound freedom and more of the life you want rather than the life to which you have limited yourself.  Go get it!

DeepWater 2465 pts

Now having a small business has new challenges to myself and business partner such as "Are you his employee?" said at a presentation of our product services, I smiled under my breath "I'm his business partner (patna, I wanted to say)!   Customers threw out some business verbiage they thought'd I'd not understand, I said "X, x, and x is this with X cost to you".    Their faces broke, bwahahahahaahaha.  I damn shole knew what I was talkin' about in said presentation.  I gotta a thrill outta that and got the sale, boyfriend, being White got us in the door.  I've learned that I'm better at sales than I'd thought, lol.   I know our products and services, WELL!

 

Was dressed in appropriate attire for the nature of our business (blazer, turtleneck, dark denims, nice mid-heeled pumps).  I've been told that I have a powerful presence in person, so this definitely came across in said sale.

 

You know what's funny, that I'm, along with business partner, now the decision maker.    Say what?     Lil ole Black me (well, not so little, slender w/curves and tawl), say that again?    I'm the decision maker.    Writing that here and now it doesn't seem real, I'm a "businesswoman",  Say what?   Bwahahahahahaha.

 

 

Brenda55 19714 pts moderator

 DeepWater Hey Deep. I have a proposition for you.

I have been picking up bits and pieces of your life story via your posts for some time now. 

It is to say the least compelling.  Would you care to write an article about you and your going from homeless to business owner with IR partner?  Your story is a BWE story if I ever heard one. Hit me up here. *******.*@******.***

DeepWater 2465 pts

 Brenda55   Word?   (Got your email address).  I don't know what to say and am honored and thank you for the offer, let me think on that for a bit, an article?  I'm floored right now.  Wow.

Brenda55 19714 pts moderator

 DeepWater You pretty much have it out there via your posts. From you abandonment by your dad to your homelessness to where you are now.

 

If that is not the story of a survivor I don't know what is. You have lived what many black women trapped in the blackistans of the world are currently living and you are succeeding. You are drawing the road map. This is BWE in real time. 

 

Please give this some serious thought and if you find that you can do this please put it down  in you own unique style.  All you have to do is e-mail it to me and we can take care of the rest.

 

You have something very important to offer not just to women starting out but to women who desire to reinvent themsleves and I really want people to experence it. 

DeepWater 2465 pts

 Brenda55   Wow, I'm totally floored right now and thank you for the offer to do an article.   I'm totally honored.  I'm blown away right now, really. When I get my bearings I'll holla at ya, bwahahahahaha.   Wow and wow, smh (in a good way).

tracyreneejones 3599 pts

 DeepWater  Brenda55 Girl, I love your comments and real life experience. I love your tact in your responses and the fact that you are willing to reveal things about yourself in order to present a POV that may help the readers and lurkers since I now see there are gangs of them oogling the pages and not saying shit. I would love if you wrote something. And please don't act so surprised. You know you are talented. :} Can't wait to see it. Good luck. 

MixedUpInVegas 1654 pts

 DeepWater

 Dang, Deepie, you're doin' the do!!  Congrats and much luck to you!  If anyone could pull this off, it would have to be you.

socialitedreams 154 pts

 DeepWater sounds like you had your remington steele: http://sojournerspassport.com/managing-remington-steele/and then shut it down with your knowledge! go 'head girly :D

DeepWater 2465 pts

 socialitedreams   Yes, thanks for very cool article.   It pretty much states where we are in this venture.   Yup want his "face" to continue rolling us into doors, sad state of affairs, but true in order to get through the doors, lol.

KinkyBottleBlonde00 211 pts

Thank you for this post. I found everything in it timely, disclaimers included. Change requires work, so pushback in even suggesting a change is to be expected. Your post is a reminder that we don't get to pick the cards we're dealt in life, only how we'll play them.

berrygirl@mommykikican.blogspot.com 73 pts

Absolutely wonderful article!!! Will print this up to put on my missions board!

DU2 2203 pts

Dr. Charlotte Hawkins Brown, the founder of Palmer Memorial Institute and author of the 1940’s social graces handbook for African Americans, “The Correct Thing to Do, to Say, to Wear”, had this to say 72 years ago during a live radio broadcast: “After all, the success of the American Negro depends upon his contacts with other races who, through the years, have had greater advantages of learning the proper approach to life and its problems. The little courtesies, the gentle voice, correct grooming, a knowledge of when to sit, when to stand; how to open and close a door; the correct attitude toward persons in authority; good manners in public places, such as railroad stations, moving picture houses, and other places where we are constantly under observation—the acquisition of these graces will go a long way in securing that recognition of ability needed to cope with human society, and will remove some of the commonest objections to our presence in large numbers.” 


 

During a time of Jim Crow segregation, she understood even back then that proper conduct and behavior was important in working with people of other races and cultures to advance ones fortunes was of the utmost importance, at the same time, she was also very aware that despite those efforts that many African Americans would still suffer unfair treatment, so to not carry oneself respectfully would only make matters worse. Good manners and proper conduct were seen as “white” attributes to be shunned and so the baby is thrown out with the bath water so to speak.


 

Dr. Brown also spoke about this: "It is perfectly natural that we want to forget much that was associated with slavery and its aftermath; at the same time it is very necessary that we pay attention to some of the things gained by our fore parents through intimate association with an aristocracy schooled in the finer things of life. Well may we add to our modern culture and educational efficiency some of the fine manners of those bygone days."

Elegance 2096 pts

 DU2 Dr.  Brown sounds like a very intelligent lady. I have the same thoughts on the issue. What she said back then is entirely relevant to why BP today need to learn how to get along with people in power who usually aren't Black. It's because they are the gatekeepers to the things they want and getting negative attention from them can make our lives miserable. BP don't have enough power yet to get away with the bad behaviour that other races can get away with. One of us does something horrible and we all get negative glances, but WP don't get the same thing. It's unfair, but we have to face that reality and act accordingly so that this sort of thing doesn't keep all of us down. The more of us who succeed and are accepted the more of us that will be given the same good treatment in the future. It's not acting White...it's using common sense, being smart, and adapting to a difficult environment. 

jldrumm1 303 pts

I really appreciate this post.

Lexi88 2193 pts

Great post  Elegance !!

 

There's nothing more attractive and powerful than a woman who knows her worth, what she wants and how to get it. All of the ladies you mention take full advantage of that knowledge. The bottom line of this post and many of the others you've written is to learn what works and imitate it. It seems like the minute someone mentions beautiful, successful black women in a post, someone always goes out of their way to disprove  or minimize their success. They use the same old tired lines of how beautiful, light, thin blah blah blah so and so is, as if her success is all looks with no work. 

Beauty is only a fraction of what is needed to be successful...I know quite a few "beautiful" women in horrible relationships, leading less than successful lives.  Why? Because they don't know their power and how to use it. This is not about looking like so and so. You need to learn what works and do it. Especially if you constantly find yourself in situations where you're always left unfulfilled and holding the poop bag. You can't continue to do the same things, yet expect different results. 

 

Elegance 2096 pts

 Lexi88 

"The bottom line of this post and many of the others you've written is to learn what works and imitate it."

 

Hugz...you understand :) Do what works for the people who have what you want. Do what they did so that you can get it for yourself. Don't keep doing things that aren't working and getting what you want just because you are used to it. So something different, even if it sounds weird, if successful people and experts say it works. Just try something different and open your mind to the idea that you don't know everything and something you didn't think of could actually be beneficial to you. Try to get insider information and secrets about how to stand out among the rest. Take control of your life and make things happen :)

MixedUpInVegas 1654 pts

 Lexi88  Elegance

 :::WILD APPLAUSE!!:::

 

Brava, brava!!!

DeepWater 2465 pts

 Lexi88  Elegance  "You can't continue to do the same things, yet expect different results."   Guuurl, you just stole the words right out of my brain, LOL.