LAwD, BEgeeZUS! Halle Berry Waves Buh Bye to U.S., Wants Nahla to Forget Her Daddy

I completely agree with your views on this. This whole generation has devalued the meaning of marriage. when it comes to Marriage and parenting its not just about you or youre decision. Everyone now a days are so caught up with themselves we don't know how to love and commit and care for other people honestly. In a marriage you are to love your spouse as you love yourself. Which me there is no Me and then you, there is only us and we. Every relationship is a gamble, but the effort to make it last and work together and compromise is what makes it all worth it. If you don't have trials and tribulations you don't have a real relationship. I've been cheated on and lied to just like im sure everyone has before, however the steps you take after the hardships, not what caused them is the solution. BTW Im pregnant with my first child engaged to a man with two children from his previous relationship we both want to move however to put the children do through that is down right selfish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If a black male or any man that has had as many failed relationship has Halle has most people would label him a jerk or the term we use around here is DBR. She has never had a good relationship with any man. Now let's be really honest, if this was a man doing this to his baby's momma he would be hated by all. Her exes have always said that she was needy and that she will turn on you like spoiled milk if you don't cater to her every need. Oh and this french actor that she pretending to love and want to marry is a serial cheater. His rep is about as bad as her ex Eric Benet. So if she was so hurt by her cheating ex-husband , why would she consider marry another man with a similar background? Guess what, a year from now she will be crying a river about how she left her country and career for this man and he did her wrong. She reminds me of my mother, and that is not a compliment. Always undermining others then playing the victim. Sorry Halle, I love you as an actress but you are not being a good person right now.

Hollywood/the entertainment industry is such a broken place.

Oh, and I just want to add that my mom never poisoned me against my father. She just told me the truth about what he did and didn't do. He wasn't a child abuser or anything like that. Just self-centered, neglectful of his kids financially, and emotionally. Running in and out of some of their lives over the years. Actually I'm quite interested in meeting him now. I'm an adult, he can't harm me, and I don't need him at this point so I think it should be safe. I'm really just curious about him. He lives in South America now. I've met his family members over the past three years. Nice people.

If he's abusive to the child and/or endangers her welfare in anyway, then the child is better off without him. I know quite a few people who had their father in their life growing up, and ended up really screwed up because of it. When I was a kid I'd wished my father had been in my life. I was mad at my mother for not really allowing it. Now, that I'm an adult and have come to realize how he screwed up the lives of my half- siblings with his nonsense, I feel like I dodged a bullet. I'm so glad now the he was not in my life. Kids need a dad. A good dad.

Halle is just a regular woman who happens to have a spotlight on her. She has no more answers than some random chick walking down the street. She's trying to figure her life out and admittedly having a hard time.

I don't like just calling her crazy or saying the common denominator in all her failed relationships is her...the common denominator in every person's failed relationships is inevitably themselves since he or she was the only one who went through all those failed relationships.

Whatever Halle's going through is ugly, but it's not special like she's more messed up than other women out there who have children from broken relationships/marriages. And for the record I don't agree with whatever messed up thing she has going on about keeping her child from her father. I do think though how she and Gabriel Aubrey ultimately end up raising their child is their business. They aren't abusing the kid or anything illegal like that so it's up to them, their respective families and I guess the courts to figure it out. Halle chose to have a baby with Gabriel Aubrey, but Gabriel Aubrey chose to have a baby with Halle Berry too. Nobody forced him to be with her and now they have a child and have no choice, but to figure this out together.

It may sound harsh, but Nahla doesn't strike me as a child who we need to be concerned about because her parents can't do what's right for her. Admittedly I'm kinda feeling harsh tonight, but I don't see how Nahla needs us, the general public, to be her specific advocate... In what respect? Is she the first child in Hollywood to grow up in a broken home? I mean, otherwise almost nobody in the entertainment business could have kids. They are all messed up!

That being said..."Ask me if I care if Gabriel was arsehole-y to her. Ask me if I care if he cheated. What’s that got to do with the price of tea in China? He loves his daughter, wants to be involved in her life, and has EVERY LEGAL RIGHT TO BE."

I agree with this statement (that Father's have the right to be with their children and Mother's do not have the right to take children away because they are mad), but as a separate issue from custody, how a man treated/treats the mother of his child does matter, and vice versa. As advocates of marriage we must also be advocates of familial relationships, even when they are broken, as in divorce, breaking up or whatever, (and YES, when you make a baby with some other person, you are now family, marriage or not). It matters to mothers how the father of their child treats them and more importantly it matters to the CHILD (a lot!) how his Dad treats/treated his Mom and vice versa.

Halle has her issues yes, but its obvious that this Gabriel dude is no angel. The sad part is that their daughter will grow up with all of this baggage on her shoulders.

I totally agree with you, Christelyn. I've never kept my daughter away from her dad, even though he and don't get along. I didn't want my daughter to have a messed up relationship with her dad on my account. It's not fair to anyone. When you have children, you really, really need to think long and hard about who you're going to sleep with before you get pregnant. You and your child's father have many, many long years together, whether you like it or not.

I can't with Halle. I really can't. I used to be a fan but she has just been so off the wall that I can't defend her.

Why didn't she just call it a day and get a sperm donor? Or adopt? I think she's wrong to take the child to Europe when the girl has a real meaningful relationship with her father. It's just plain old wrong and Halle's a spiteful nut job.

team nahla!

i think france would be great for her.

Since none of us really know why she wishes to get engaged and move to France everything that is said here is simply specualtive and conjecture. If she is really moving because of threats she's received from a stalker then that should be a consideration, if she is moving because she is playing dirty in her custody battle with her ex only time well bear that out. I think Halle needs to take a minute and work out why she constatnly finds herself in bad relationsips. Perhaps she is doing that, I don't know. I wish her well and I hope her intentions are honorable in wanting move. Other than that I'll reserve judgement until all the facts are in, not just the things WE THINK are facts.

I hope Halle really thinks this through for the sake of her childs relationship to Gabriel. The early developing years are so important between a child and father and once those years are gone you cannot get them back. I met my dad for the first time when I was 18 I tried getting closer to him but after some time he decided he no longer wanted to a dad to me so the relationship never went any further. Sometimes I think what would it have been like to have a dad in my life to do all the wonderful father and daughter things together.

It's too bad Halle keeps chasing one carrot after another for her happiness.

First of all people are saying that divorces nasty. They were never married. This custody issue point blank. I hate when people undermine the sanctity of marriage by referring to couples that shack up as married. There cannot be a divorce if people were never married. I've heard bloggers refer to Gabriel has a jerk but there has never been a person who has had a personal relationship or contact with him has said that. Not even his ex- girlfriends. The media has dug in his background and they cannot find any dirt on him. He may have a temper, but could she be the reason for his temper. All of the men that Halle has dated in the last 20 years have said that she is crazy and has warned other men not to date her. One of the guys was a Spanish actor and the other was a White guy and a member of a boy band. We only know of the bad relationships she has had with the black men she has dated and married, but the non-black men she has dated have all said the same thing. She is crazy. If you are going to compare people based on failed relationships then Halle loses all around. Word on the street (Hollyweird) is that Halle is un-dateable and that is why she is now dating internationally. No man in the US, now Canada and soon France will ever date her seriously. LOL. Btw, I used to be her biggest fan. Halle do better.

What I learn from following this, is that people have two yardsticks: How they judge themselves and people like themselves and one how they judge VIPs.

If I take the yardstick that I use to judge myself: Once you have a child, you are no longer free as a bird. Each child has the right to know both sides of the family, or s/he will hold it against you when they are old enough to realize what you did. Plus the fact that the ex should help financially with the baby he helped make. That trumps my natural instinct to get my tender broken heart as far away from the evidence of my failed relationship as possible.

That's the yardstick that I would use to judge if I were in those shoes.

The fact that Ms. Berry has money, means that she doesn't need financial support. But it doesn't mean that she should deprive her baby of the real daddy.

So much for rights of the child or rights of the father. Ms. Berry is upholding her rights as a woman as the only rights worth having.

I do think Gabriel was in it for the money and feels that now that Halle has moved on to someone else his access to Halle's money will be lost. Although he seems to love his lill girl I keep thinking this guy is K-Fed part 2. If Halle marries again and her husband's primary residence is in France there is nothing stopping Gabriel from getting his broke ass on a plane at Halle's expense of course and modeling in europe somewhere. See this is why you adopt alone or go to a sperm bank and be done with it.

I agree with Chris.

Halle says she wants to leave for safety issues but when she was getting death threats when she was pregnant and after she gave birth, she stayed put, got bodyguards, and all was well. Most people don't know this because back then she kept her business to herself. Now that she hates Gabriel all we hear are negative things about him as a man and as a father. A woman in her position has the power to keep this kind of nasty business under wraps. Many stars do. I've made a nice living helping them. The fact that we hear so much one-sided information that favors the rich Hollywood elite should tell you something. If you're not convinced, Google the conveniently staged photos of Halle letting her daughter kiss her new boyfriend on the mouth like he's her daughter's father.

Halle plays dirty. I wish she'd put her ego aside and think about what would be in her daughter's best interests.

I totally agree with Chris. My family member is in a similar position. I am related to the guy. His ex. doesn't want her newborn to have anything to do with her father. She is 34 and he is 28. They both work in law enforcement. He says the child was planned and he wanted to marry her. They moved into together after they learned about the baby. Her family knew about her moving in with him and the baby. His mother knew these things after the fact. He probably did not tell his mother about moving in and the baby because he knew his mother would have not approved. IMO, he gave her to much control in the relationship. We knew something was amiss when his calls to his mother became very infrequent, he behaved as if he did not want to be bothered with her. He had this impression that her family was somehow a little better. Why? Her parents are still married and they raised her and her siblings in another adjacent city. His ex is smart and has a alpha type personality. Although, she seems a bit insecure about herself. She looks rather old for her age. Whereas my relative is still quite good looking. He gave her money for herself. She used his credit card without permission and now refuses to repay him. He can be fussy but, he is not a thug by any means. I think she would be happier if he was more a rough neck type of guy. All in all she was a little to advance for him. He is talking about going to court so that he can have visitation rights, how many bm are willing to fight for visitation rights?

Both sides have handle their situation rather poorly. This is why marriage first and then have your baby.

I think that some interesting accusations have been made, not just here, but in other articles, about how some BW are treated or should be regarded.

Women who have committed acts of infidelity tend to be more despised than those who have screwed up in other ways or have revealed other sorts of damaged behavior. It could also be argued that some women are more likely to be attacked based on age, wealth, class, and even skin tone. OR these women could be made sympathetic for these reasons.

To be honest, I don't know what to say about Aubrey because I'm not familiar with his romantic history prior to Berry. That could be why there is decidedly less focus on him: He's less famous, his relationship statuses are less known, and he does not have the very public failed track record of his spouse. I'm actually going to say for the record that any hostility she is getting is a result of her own PR back-firing. Make no mistake, when a intimate details and rumors find their way into the press, it's not necessarily because these people don't know it's happening (think Alec Baldwin's message winding up in the news). Just because a divorce is ugly does not mean it is obligated to be public. One side is seeing much more information put into the press than the other. I don't think it's an accident. I think it's happening with the intent of making the move easier from both a PR point of view, and child custody point of view. If she's determined to move with her child and she hates her ex, she sees no reason not to fight dirty to get what she wants. She's not the first person to go there. I think the problem she's having is that, like I said, his previous relationships aren't as well known, and people don't follow him as much as they do her. She's the more known one, the one with the very public relationship problems. If that weren't the case, people would be less likely to suspect anything strange. Which would make all of this a shame if there is validity to what she's saying. It's also why I wish some celebrities would understand that a public marriage is a very bad idea, especially if things go off the rails.

I do not blame her for wanting to move away from a potential stalker, and if that's the reason she wants to do it, it's certainly understandable. Unfortunately, when there is a child in the middle of things, it gets complicated. I'd like to believe she's doing this for the safety of herself and her child. Only time will tell (and it will) if ulterior motives are involved.

http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/gossip-halle-looking-to-leave-country-with-daughter-after-death-threats-1666141.story

According to the link above, Halle wants to leave due to fear for her and Nahla's safety after receiving death threats from a stalker.

I will admit that the timing of this decision does look suspect considering Halle was ordered (just last week) by a judge to attend mandatory co-parenting classes with her ex. However, at the end of the day what goes on in the lives of Halle and Gabriel have absolutely ZERO-bearing on me and mine; therefore, I really don't give a hoot.

I really don't know what to say about this situation because I don't know what's going on. Is this a move for the safety and wellbeing of mother and child, or is Halle doing this to spite the father and add further ugliness to the situation? Some divorces can get OOOOOGLY, and it's not above some people to use children to get at their exes. It's one of those situations where everything leading up to this validates both sides. Her accusations, accusations by the nanny, etc. could justify a feeling to move abroad with the child, claiming a need to ensure the child escape a deranged father. Or to conspiracy theorists, these actions could have been laying the groundwork for what she wanted to do all along.

The ONLY thing I know is that this child is probably going to need all sorts of therapy.

For those who think I'm giving Gabriel a "white boy" pass, uh...have you been around for the past two years? I give NO ONE a pass. Tragic mullatto my arse. I don't care if Halle were blue-black, I'd be saying the same thing. You know what funny though? When I called out Fantasia for her foolishness, NONE A YA'LL came to her defense! Now who's favoring whom?

Just speaking on a personal note, I've seen it from the opposite perspective - nasty divorce, the works, plus parental alienation, starting from before the separation and divorce - for every $1 I paid, my ex- paid $9 + gifts of cars, etc. - young-people gleefully took the $$.

Now, my only contact is "in case of emergency ... break glass ... pull lever ... call Dad ... activate money pump," - except that I don't do that anymore, which has resulted in the Great Black Hole of Non-Communication..

The alienation extended to grandchildren, now pre-teens, with whom I have no contact at all at this time.

Luckily, I had/have my lady-wife, who keeps me from the blues & real depression.

I know that everyone is entitled to their own opinion but black women just have no problem at all just calling each other out all...the...time...damn. No other group of women does it sooooo much to each other. And I know already, it is your perrogative as the blog owner...

I do think Halle, as Nahla's main caretaker has the right to take her wherever she wants. She does not however, have the right to keep her from her father, especially if her father wants to be involved. Children do not have a say in whether their parents stay together, however, they do, more so than the mother or father's rights, have a right to have two parents as willing participants in their lives. Not having a father around is bad enough without knowing that your father wanted to be there and wasn't able to. I feel that destroys children even more. I really hope they can work something out for Nahla's sake.

First of all the french actor is not her fiancee, he is just a short lived boyfriend. They meet on a movie shoot, just like she meet Gabriel on a photo shoot. Halle has had many bad relationships. How long can you play the victim before people start to wonder. Halle has some DBRish traits about herself. During her whole acting career she as always be attached to a man. She needs to spend time by herself to learn why she is always attracting so-called flawed men.You'll know that she had her nanny just a few weeks ago claim the Gabriel attacked her. She tried to have him thrown in jail. Because there was no bruises or eyewitnesses the judge didn't fall for the allegation. She loses that battle and now she wants to move out of the country. Do you know that Halle recently twitted pictures of her daughter kissing the french boyfriend in the mouth at the beach and her daughter has no shirt on. God don't like ugly and if she keeps up with this nonsense something bad will happen to her daughter in her presense and she may lose full custody all together. What is going to happen when the french boyfriend cheats on her. His she going to accuse him of abusing her daughter. Heck he might just be the one to throw her under the bus. She is so sad. She's suppose to be in love, she has a beautiful and healthy daughter whose father adores her, so why is she so bitter and unhappy. And where is her bff Oprah. She's been quiet and we know Oprah don't tolerate abuse of children. I use to be Halles' biggest fan, but not anymore. For those who say that people don't know the whole story, that is true but Halle has said that Gabriel was the best man and father ever until he broke up with her because she said that he was not long attracted to her and that he wanted to date other women. Now that her ego is bruised he's the worst father of the year. I don't think so. Even though she is the famous rich one in the case, she keeps losing. Not a good look Halle.

This custody battle is as ugly as Alex Baldwin and Kim Basinger's was. The only ones who win are the lawyers and the tabloids. I feel bad for the kid.