Money Crashers: Good Debt vs. Bad Debt

Money Crashers: Good Debt vs. Bad Debt

While most of us cannot live entirely debt-free, there are major differences between what is considered “good” debt and “bad” debt. Though some debt falls into a bit of a gray area, good debt is simply defined as money borrowed to pay for items you truly need or that appreciate in value, and bad debt is accrued for items you only want and that generally depreciate in value.

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    While most of us cannot live entirely debt-free, there are major differences between what is considered “good” debt and “bad” debt. Though some debt falls into a bit of a gray area, good debt is simply defined as money borrowed to pay for items you truly need or that appreciate in value, and bad debt is accrued for items you only want and that generally depreciate in value.

    To help you make this distinction, it is important to be able to differentiate between wants and needs. Moreover, before borrowing money, you need to determine whether the money is going toward something that will have a positive or negative effect on your overall financial situation. Ultimately, debt is not always bad – it’s how you use it that counts.

    Good Debt

    1. Borrowing Money for Education

    When you take on student loan debt, you are rarely making a bad decision. Generally, those with college degrees tend to earn more money over their lifetime than those without a degree.

    And taking out a student loan to pay for your child’s education sure beats using your retirement money to do so. After all, you cannot borrow to pay for your own retirement. There are many government programs offering low-interest or interest-free student loans, and you can often deduct student loan interest on your taxes.

    2. Paying for Medical Care

    While unpaid medical bills account for more than 60% of bankruptcies in the United States, there is no amount of money not worth borrowing to help pay to keep a loved one healthy. You can always pay back money you borrow, but you cannot replace a human life. If someone needs expensive treatments or surgery to regain their health, this an acceptable debt to take on, no matter what.

    3. Taking out a Mortgage on a Home

    Make no mistake, taking out a loan of this size can be daunting, but buying a home builds ownership in something that not only provides a roof over your head, but also is a potential source of retirement money. And while your drive to stay out of debt may feel like encouragement to put any and all available liquid cash down as a down payment (which effectively reduces your monthly payment and interest charges), it may not be the smartest move.

    Home mortgage interest is deductible on your taxes, and the interest rate is much lower on your home loan than it is on your credit card, so having cash to pay other expenses instead of using your credit is important.

    While buying a house was formerly seen as a solid, future-proof investment, some homeowners are finding themselves upside down on their home mortgage loan, owing more to the banks than their homes are worth. But careful planning, buying only what you can afford, and keeping those interest rates low by having good credit enables you to buy a house that you will one day own outright.

    4. Purchasing a Car

    If public transportation is not available in your area, or you cannot find anyone with whom to car pool, you are probably going to need to buy a car. An auto loan can fall into that gray area between “good” and “bad,” but the key to keeping an auto loan closer to good debt rather than bad is to make sure you get the lowest possible interest rate on your loan. Also, it’s important to put as much down as possible, while making sure you still have cash on hand should you need it.

    Your best bet is to buy a late-model used car rather than a brand new one, potentially saving you thousands on the sticker price and the interest paid over the life of the loan.

    5. Business Loans

    While this wouldn’t be considered good debt in every single case, borrowing money to start or expand a business is generally seen as a good idea, especially if business is booming. After all, it takes money to make money, right?

    Sometimes you have to borrow capital in order to hire new employees, buy new equipment, pay for advertising, or just to manufacture the first run of a new widget you invented. As long as the money is borrowed with a plan in place to generate more business or income, then taking out a business loan counts as good debt.

    Bad Debt

    1. Credit Card Debt

    The average U.S. household carries a balance of more than $10,000 on their credit cards each month. Credit card debt often piles up quicker than we realize, and is often used to pay for things we want rather than need. It’s much easier to think we can afford something using a card rather than paying with cash.

    By the time credit cards are paid off, interest rates and minimum payments can turn $100 items into $200 items, and many items depreciate in value rapidly, making the loss that much more substantial. Credit card debt is without question a bad debt, and one that millions of Americans find themselves with today. It’s hard to get out of credit card debt and is best to avoid it in the first place – most Americans should not use credit cards.

    2. Borrowing From a 401k

    When you borrow money from your 401k plan, you have to deal with the IRS, and unless you are using the money to buy a home, you have to pay back the borrowed money within five years. If you don’t pay it back when you should, you could get hit with heavy early withdrawal penalties. Plus, the interest you’ll pay on the loan will effectively get taxed twice – first when you pay it, and again when you withdraw it during retirement.

    You cannot borrow money to fund your retirement. Therefore, borrowing money from your retirement fund to pay for anything other than retirement is a bad idea. You put your retirement at risk when borrowing from a 401k, so don’t do it unless absolutely necessary.

    3. Vacations, Jewelry, and Expensive Clothes

    If you cannot comfortably afford to pay for these luxuries with cash on hand, don’t do it. These are not needs but wants, and thus bad debt. Wait until you have the money to pay for them. Going into debt just to pay for a vacation or a handbag is most definitely a terrible use of borrowed money.

    4. Payday Loans

    It may be easy to borrow money from payday loan companies, but it’s very difficult to pay them back. These companies loan out money with terrifyingly high interest rates, taking advantage of the fact that many people are desperate for cash. Even a small amount borrowed through a payday loan outlet can end up costing a small fortune when finally paid back.

    Payday loans are often considered the worst kind of debt you can take on. If you are in serious need of a short-term loan, you are better off taking a cash advance on a credit card than borrowing money from these companies.

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      Mark_H 143 pts

      You can afford anything you want, on even a very modest income, if you're willing to give up the things you don't need. Out of high school I joined the Navy and used my GI Bill to pay for my Master of Science degree; and I talked my first employer into covering night classes for my MBA - so two professional degrees for free. I buy a new car every two years and pay cash; I can do this because I buys cars that will hold their value, maintenance them appropriately, and keep my mileage low. Every three years I buy a new toy - three years ago it was a 4-wheel off road buggy and this year it will be a pontoon boat; again, each paid for with cash. I paid off each of my 30-year mortgages in eight years by putting 30% down and making 3 extra payments every year; I now own 3 houses outright and rent 2 out for positive income.

      So, that's what I get to do for fun. On the flip side I rarely eat out, unless I'm on a date. I never go to the movies or theater, instead I use Netflix ($8/month) for movies and cable series. I don't buy video games or music, and only own 1 TV with basic cable (still 70 channels, but it cuts my Internet cost in half). Instead of donating money I volunteer for causes I want to support. I brew my own beer and bourbon (which I give as gifts to certain clients) and don't smoke. Some of the best clothes I've found have come from the Goodwill store down the street, as well as a 7-day backpack and a 3-season tent that I will use this summer when I hike Maine's 100-mile wilderness. I don't take extravagant vacations, but my work often sends me coast-to-coast several times a year. I usually try to extend the stay by a couple days on either end and go camping.

      At the end of the day it's all about deciding where your priorities are.

      Christelyn 2190 pts moderator

      Mark_H wow Mark, you rock. Can I have some beer? ;-)

      SirLoinDeBeef 378 pts

      Christelyn Mark_H I brew, too, but sending cases across the nation is $$ - simpler to tell you how to do it (e-mail me).

      Christelyn 2190 pts moderator

      SirLoinDeBeefMark_H but will it taste good? I'm scared.

      SirLoinDeBeef 378 pts

      Christelyn Mark_H Ask Brenda55 ... on a hot day ... with dinner ... just because

      SirLoinDeBeef 378 pts

      Christelyn Mark_H I believe it was Benjamin Franklin that said, "beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!"

      Mark_H 143 pts

      Christelyn SirLoinDeBeef It's just like cooking, learn the techniques, buy the right equipment, and learn the recipes. The rest is having enough patience for it to mature (the bourbon is tough, five years to go before my first 10-year old batch is ready. beer is faster)...

      SirLoinDeBeef 378 pts

      Mark_HChristelyn SirLoinDeBeef Actually, there's a quick-and-dirty way to get whiskey:

      Get an old oak stair tread (wash it real good) - set a plane on coarse and shave it down - put the shavings in a pile and set fire to it (no lighter fluid, please!) - when burning briskly, clap a non-metallic cover over it & let things cool slowly - you now have a bunch of unburnt + partially-burnt + fully-burnt oak pieces - crush 2 handfuls and put them into a gallon milk jug (washed, of course) - then pour in 3 quarts of clear grain spirits (Everclear) - twist on the top - seal the top well, with candle wax - put it in a place away from light - everybody that walks by, picks it up and gives two sloshes - after 2 months, filter through gauze & then re-filter through 1 paper coffee filter & finally through 2 coffee filters - now you have whiskey - thin with distilled water to 80-proof (40%).

      Did it once, many years ago - works pretty well.

      Though I really prefer dark, heavy beer or mead (now bubbling in my office, 3 more months to go).

      SirLoinDeBeef 378 pts

      Mark_HChristelyn The only thing ya hafta have is a capper and caps - otherwise: get hop-flavored malt extract & cane sugar - use bread yeast - salvage brown bottles from taverns - use styrofoam water coolers or empty 5 gal. jugs from a water company - siphon with a piece of hose.

      Just be sure to run BOILING WATER through everything.

      When I started, years ago, I had a salvaged crock - I stirred everything with a small canoe paddle - I tied a plastic bag around the crock with a long shoelace, putting a match under it at one place to let the CO2 gas out - I had an old fish-tank immersion-heater to keep things warmish.

      The beer still came out fine - the yeast WANTS to make beer, ya see.

      Then I graduated to salvaged food containers (if it says mayonaise or powered milk, it's OK - if it says pickles, machine oil or Methyl Ethyl Ketone, Nah-nah) - put a piece of plywood on the top and hold it on with a couple of bricks - drilled a hole on top, put in a flex-straw, with the end in a little cup of water (which makes an air-lock - gas out, no air/oxygen in).

      Store the capped bottles away from light - drink after 21 days.

      Christelyn 2190 pts moderator

      SirLoinDeBeefMark_H Uh...I know both sexes drink beer, but this sounds like a man's job. Like mowing the lawn. Grilling. Taking out the trash. Shoveling snow. :-/ #jussayin

      Mocha Z 1402 pts

      Mark_H I agree....discipline and priorities. I am the same way about tv but I dont even do basic cable,although at times I miss some History and Classic movie channels. I watch free stuff online and used to do redbox but just do netflix and hulu. I eat in and take food from home. Even when I dated, I made great sandwiches and pasta to take with,lol. Going up to Solvang,Sequoias and San Diego was just fuel costs @ little over $1 at the time.I do Goodwill supplemental add ins to major sales at my favorite stores. Traveling can be done on a strict budget too. The deals arent as good as they used to be like the British airways $99 each way. I agree, if you sacrifice in some areas, it can pay off in other important areas. Im not a car person and would be happy with any car that gets 35-40 mpg and no payments. I envy the Prius drivers more than the numerous BMW, Lexus and Range Rover drivers. Ok, maybe not the Range Rover Drivers..they still get the occasional side eye, lol. I'd go for an old wagoneer that was the equivalent over two decades ago.

      Mark_H 143 pts

      Mocha Z The WAGONEER! Oh, MY GOSH - You ROCK!

      CarlaRose 60 pts

      Mark_H I totally agree! I don't have cable or TV reception at all, but I get free movies from the library system all the time. Many of them are usually only a year old. I eat at home most of the time, partly because of my Paleo diet and also to save money for things I really one. It is all about priorities even if you don't make a lot of money.

      Mark_H 143 pts

      CarlaRose I always forget the library! (palm slap to head) For a guy who reads as much as I do (big book swap club at work) I should be using the library too!

      Law Wanxi 1911 pts

      I'm in the used car camp. I have nothing against other people buying or leasing new cars, as someone has to drive that first 50% off the MSRP. My father bought me a 1998 528i in 2000 [he doesn't buy new cars, either] when I graduated from med school. I still have it, with about 400K on it. I plan to keep it until about 2014 or 2015. I'll probably get a 2011 or 2012 version of the same, although, a 2009 760li is also a possibility. Price should be around 40K for the 7 and 30K for the 5 at that time. That gives me a few years to save up for it, fairly painlessly

      The Working Home Keeper 612 pts

      Law Wanxi

      My husband is also of the buy used mindset when it comes to cars. All our cars have been purchased used with fairly low mileage. Our current cars are older, but paid off. We like not having payments!

      Law Wanxi 1911 pts

      The Working Home Keeper

      If I splurge and get the 760li, which is doubtful, as it has poor mileage, I'm going to get a pair of those license plate frames that say "don't laugh, it's paid for!".

      Mark_H 143 pts

      Law Wanxi Go for the 760li, it's a FANTASTIC piece of engineering.

      The Working Home Keeper 612 pts

      My husband and I are on a mission to become completely debt free. We both graduated from college free of student loan debt. In the past, we used credit cards but always paid them off in full each month. We're now on a cash-based budget (ala Dave Ramsey). Back in 2008, we paid off $16k in debt (a car loan and HELOC) in 11 months. Since then, we've built up an emergency fund of 3 - 6 months of expenses. Having the emergency fund made the nine months my husband spent without a job much less stressful. Thankfully, we didn't even have to touch the savings during that time. We're now in the process of paying off our mortgage (we pay extra to the principal each month) as well as saving for retirement and the kids' college. We will be completely debt free before our oldest starts college.

      Brenda55 2617 pts moderator

      The Working Home Keeper Good for you.

      The Working Home Keeper 612 pts

      Brenda55 Thanks Brenda! The one thing I wish we would have done differently as a couple, would have been to learn how to live on one income at the beginning of our marriage. Unfortunately, we didn't have the guidance or the self knowledge at the time. But we live pretty frugally on two incomes. We don't spend everything we make!

      Mocha Z 1402 pts

      The old adage, the more you make, the more you spend is so true. It's a trap that most Americans of all economic brackets seem to fall into. I have always liked the Dave Ramsey approach since introduced to his financial advice over 10 years ago. When you marry,makeIt isthedifference between financial life and death. It's just that serious. sure you find a common financial ground ahead of time. If he doesnt like your views on finances, it may be a source of contention and eventually divorce.

      Mocha Z 1402 pts

      Im on the cell but it should read. *Make*sure you find... the word somehow popped in another sentence,lol.

      ForestElfQueen 1920 pts

      Mocha Z I remember when my dad gave me a Suze Orman audiobook...I was like, "Is this a hint". My mom, of course doesn't care for her. lolz. I like Orman, Ramsey & Rev. Billy of the Church of Stop Shopping.. It really balances that whole hyper-consumerist..'you are what you buy/have' meme that can affect your self-esteem, esp in the US. I do splash out on 'stuff ' now and then but I've gotten much better at analysing 'needs' vs 'wants'. Then why exactly do I want the 'want'?

      http://www.suzeorman.com/

      http://www.daveramsey.com/home/

      http://www.revbilly.com/

      What Would Jesus Buy?

      http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1056487665...

      That said, I still buy way more "stuff" than I probably should but I've come a looooooong way since teen/young adulthood.

      George Carlin Talks About "Stuff"

      http://youtu.be/MvgN5gCuLac

      Browncow 203 pts

      This is a good article. Most people don't know how to spend money wisely. My husband and I have a strict budget. We have equal personal spending every month. We have different jobs, he out of the house and me at home with the kids, but we consider both to be equally challenging and worth equal personal funds. None of this, "I work for the money so I can do what I want!", crap. We also keep receipts for everything and log our receipts on our budget sheet throughout the month. We have no credit card debt either since we only buy with our credit cards what we need mostly and we have a miscellaneous budget for things outside of our normal spending. It works for our family and keeps our credit scores high. We pay our credit cards outright every month so we never carry a balance. We plan on driving our cars until they die (well that's after we get a minivan for me and the kids). So that's it in a nutshell. We love our budget and it really works for our family. I advise every couple to have a budget that works for them because it will only help in the long run and you'll even be able to save some money.

      ForestElfQueen 1920 pts

      medical is a no-choice... school at a reasonably-priced uni makes sense... credit cards are the devil unless you only buy what can be paid in total monthly. Cash/debit card is best.

      I wouldn't buy or rent 'too much house'. just more space for clutter to accumulate. I'm not a big car person..a certified-preowned one is great.

      If you like fancy clothes etc. consignment is a great way to indulge occasionally if it's within your budget.

      Brenda55 2617 pts moderator

      Hey its all bad debt when ya can't pay it.

      Seriously. This is a good article and I hope a money feature becomes a regular item here. People need to know how to handle theirs. I agree with this break down of good debt and bad.

      That said debt is still debt and good debt will still get you in trouble if you have so much of it that you cannot meet your obligations,establish an emergency fund or save for retirement. No matter your income LBYM. Live below your means.

      ForestElfQueen 1920 pts

      Brenda55 "..No matter your income LBYM. Live below your means."

      that's what my dad always said.

      CarlaRose 60 pts

      ForestElfQueenBrenda55 I agree. It does get hard when you don't bring home much to begin with and unexpected expenses come up - like health conditions. The less you can live on the better though.

      SirLoinDeBeef 378 pts

      I've been married a few times - with each of my WW, it was spend, spend, spend ... often the paycheck spent before I actually got it - crushing debt used to 'score points' in the marriage balance-of-power.

      My current BW lady-wyfe and I agree on cash as much as possible, staying to a budget, carrying no balances, and paying down the mortgage

      Guess which marriage seems to be healthy & lasting!

      CarlaRose 60 pts

      SirLoinDeBeef Did you and your ex-wives talk about finances before you tied the knot, or was it a bait & switch situation?

      SirLoinDeBeef 378 pts

      CarlaRoseSirLoinDeBeef Bait-and-switch for each - for #1, debt & marital power struggle was a way of life in her family & she carried it forward (but only after the ink was dry on the marriage license) - for the others, it was pseudo-frugal before and spend-unto-death after.

      Is it any wonder, then, that my lady-wyfe & I are gonna renew our vows after 10 years together - or that I can still recite-from-memory my wedding vows (slightly edited to protect the guilty): "I, SirLoinDeBeef, take thee, Brenda55, to be my wife, promising, with Devine assistance, to be unto thee a loving and faithful husband so long as I do live" - our wedding certificate, complete with signatures, is still up on the living room wall.

      And we still live below our means.

      CarlaRose 60 pts

      SirLoinDeBeef "And we still live below our means."

      That's one thing a lot of people would never consider, but should do.

      Brenda55 2617 pts moderator

      CarlaRoseSirLoinDeBeef

      My dad used to tell me that "Romance without finance is a nuisance".

      Dad always steered me straight.

      Pearl 1375 pts

      I actually made a "Monthly Bills List" for my mom.

      And when I live on my own I plan to keep track of what I buy and always keep receipts, in an organized notebook. May be too much work for some but, I really want to be careful soo lol

      CarlaRose 60 pts

      I know many people who would consider car loans "bad debt". I guess it depends on who you ask.

      I know I have a lot of medical debt - hoping to get through it by the end of the year.

      Brenda55 2617 pts moderator

      CarlaRose A car loan could be seen a bad debt since a car markedly depreciates in value as soon as you drive it off the lot. But if you need it to get and hold on to that well paying job that improves your standard of living then it is good.

      The trick is do you by a hooptie or a Lexis. Both will get you to work. You have to decide which one you can afford and the only way to know that is to see if it fits your budget. You won't know if it fits your budget unless you have a budget to begin with. So even before you get the note to by the car guess what a person first step should be?

      Mocha Z 1402 pts

      Brenda55 CarlaRose It can be painted Camo as long as it gets from A-Z(this is Cali so the full alphabet is needed). The biggest requirement is minimal 30mpg. I am actuall in the market for a used car right now. Cash and carry,lol.

      SirLoinDeBeef 378 pts

      Mocha ZBrenda55CarlaRose Can you go the motor-scooter route? - in Cali, riding is year-around, for the large percentage of time - my 'triked motor scooter' has a step-thru frame and auto transmission + 2 cylinders & 110 mph top speed ... and gets 40 mpg (it's a Burgman 650).

      CarlaRose 60 pts

      SirLoinDeBeefMocha ZBrenda55 I no longer live in California, I'm in Portland now where it rains 10 months out of the year, LOL. Plus I'm too scared to be in something w/o protection, especially at night in iffy weather.

      Mocha Z 1402 pts

      SirLoinDeBeef Brenda55 CarlaRose For the same reasons as Carla, being side car Sally no workie.I also live in a very mountainous area going into SD. Taking an unfit car through them can prove dangerous let alone an open trike. I even cringe when smart cars brave the ranges. If I was in say Eureka Springs Ar, joyriding through retirement,I might consider it, lol. I openly envy all the Prius ownerd,sibling included,but I have no moolah for thae luxury of experiencing 40-50mpg yuppie style.