How Nothing-But-A-Black-Man (NBABM) Women Really Ruin it for Us

How Nothing-But-A-Black-Man (NBABM) Women Really Ruin it for Us

Take a look at what happens when these women open their big mouths….

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I feel confident in saying that my hunny is a pretty handsome fella. Many other women seem to think so as well. When we go out he often gets offered free drinks by white female bartenders (which he usually passes on to me). He has gotten his ass grabbed in public several times by Hispanic girls. And recently, my Marine turned college student been reporting to me that several Asian girls in clubs he’s apart of (Japanese club and Anime club) have expressed interest in him. I am also very proud of myself that I don’t seem to be the jealous type, and I’m completely secure that my hunny (or sweet agave nectar, a vegan joke between the two of us) is completely devoted to me.

Recently, we have discussed at BB&W, pillar of salt women whom often date interracially as a short-term replacement for the black men they really desire; as well as women so lost in cognitive dissonance that they feel the need to “warn” black women who express preference in non-black men when they are actually the ones that need to take a look at their dating choices. Also, the misadventures of NBABM black women are always on regular rotation. The opinions of such women somehow remain the standard, even beyond the online rag mags such as Clutch and Madame Noir. The way many black women crudely profess their distaste for interracial dating in public forums has done those of us who have those preferences a great disservice. Not only do many non-black men report being rudely rejected by black women, but I’m sure there are many more don’t even bother to approach black women, not because they are scared or nervous, but because they simply don’t want to be bothered with being rejected because of the color of their skin.

As I always say, black women’s marketing is all messed up; to the point where a random non-black cutie may decide to not bother perusing an interest in black women simply by overhearing a conversation.

Jay recounted for me an incident that happened to him recently. While heading home from classes he stopped at a Chipotle restaurant for dinner where he spotted a group of black women chatting with each other. Very soon he couldn’t help but overhear their conversation. This was a group of NBABM black women animatedly (loudly) discussing their preference for black men. It didn’t take them long to get to the real nitty gritty of the conversation. Not only were these women talking about how much they loved black men, they were also discussing how they “couldn’t stand” white men, Hispanic men, Indian men and the like.

Then they began pointing out and laughing at the various non-black men in the restaurant, stating how undesirable they were. Pretty soon, Jay heard them mention his telltale Sonic the hedgehog cap. At this point, he told me just about everyone in the restaurant had become privy to the conversation, including all of the other non-black men. After all, this was smack dab in the middle of Manhattan.

All he could do was shake his head as he sat down to his dinner. Getting comfortable, he removed his jacket to reveal a fitted shirt and all of his lovely muscles. After that, he could not help but notice one of the women in the group continuously glancing over in his direction. And as the group got up to leave, the woman trailed behind in order to get a few last peaks.

Fortunately for my hunny, he already has a black woman who thinks the world of him. But I don’t even want to imagine how put off a single man would be in a similar situation. This group of women had no idea that when they mentioned him in their conversation they were discussing a man with a preference for black women.

Jay told me that it wasn’t even their conversation that disturbed him, it was the one woman that kept eyeing him like he was a Christmas turkey (torfurky), when just moments prior she was discussing with fervor how much she “couldn’t stand” men like him, that really annoyed him.

It’s been made pretty clear that a lot of women like these don’t even care about how their opinions affect black women who are attracted to non-black men. In fact, these women will go out of their way to “urge” such black women to look at character over color while being completely unaware (completely ignoring) that, that is precisely why they have such preferences in the first place. I can only imagine how that conversation would have turned if I were with him.

This is why it is up to us as black women interested in dating interracially to not only let our preferences be known, but to also be unafraid to put ourselves in the line of men that we are interested in. Even if we leave the approaching, courting, what have you, up to them, being an active participant in your own love lives is more important now than ever before.

It is extremely necessary for us to realize that even men who are, or could potentially be interested in black women are not immune to the world around them and how people perceive them. Not only that but it is also extremely necessary for us to realize that these men also have feelings and opinions based on their experiences that should be understood and respected just the same as we demand. Men who are looking for serious relationships will not stand by for too long and put up games of silly women just for the sake of upholding their preferences.

Jay’s brother not too long ago told me he also had a preference for black women many years ago, but gave up on it after being rudely rejected one too many times and told that he was not as good as a black man. He now dates an Asian girl that treats him wonderfully.

I also once had a very handsome Argentinean co-worker who had a preference for black women, but ended up marrying a white woman after being similarly rejected by black women too many times. He told me he didn’t understand why these women claimed to want relationships so badly, but laughed at him when he proposed they be in a relationship with him.

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ScorpioEnigma09 80 pts

Great article.  Everyone's entitled to their preference but BW who act like this make things more difficult for those of us who are interested in non-BM.  It's dumbfounding actually because a lot of BW who go on and on about wanting NBABM are the same women all depressed because they can't find anyone.  But I also blame the media too. 

thecrazyartist 2420 pts

 ScorpioEnigma09

Quite a few of these women are probably interested in men of other races, they just don't want to be ostracized by their family or friends. 

EarthJeff 3586 pts

"but I’m sure there are many more don’t even bother to approach black women, not because they are scared or nervous, but because they simply don’t want to be bothered with being rejected because of the color of their skin."

 

Fair or unfair, there is some truth to this.  Maybe not as the only reason, but it is a factor.  Yes, I got over it and am glad that I did.  And yes, there probably is a bit of an element of  "he needs to grow a pair".  And yet, it is something that we need to recognize as one of the factors at play.

browniegirl360 205 pts

I never discussed my relationships with friends...especially if its a good one...one thing i NEVER do is tell them how good the sex is...if you don't want enemies, be careful what you tell your friends...

amiar10 362 pts

 

All he could do was shake his head as he sat down to his dinner. Getting comfortable, he removed his jacket to reveal a fitted shirt and all of his lovely muscles. After that, he could not help but notice one of the women in the group continuously glancing over in his direction. And as the group got up to leave, the woman trailed behind in order to get a few last peaks.

 

Oh my goodness, I DIED at this. 

 

heyimPearlilikefries 2121 pts

I dare someone to ask me about my boyfriends private parts. You think you're being intrusive? I WILL show you intrusive. 

 

*A lady never tells! (No matter how lucky you may be LOL)*

 

The thing that freaks me out the most is that WHY are they worried about YOUR boyfriend's penis? It's NOT theirs to worry about! Same thing with women proclaiming their boyfriend is well-endowed. They are setting themselves up to be betrayed if you ask me. 

 

Be brief when you talking about your husband or boyfriends because women AND men can be cold man. My mom only talks about... really nothing. Maybe that's just me, but when you're happy and have a man some women or even men want to mess it up. I'm just cautious with personal relationships.. yall can blame my mom for that.

amiar10 362 pts

 TheZitaZitomihr Words of wisdom! The reason why I never tell my best friend too much about my relationship.

violalove 141 pts

 amiar10  TheZitaZitomihr I always wondered about this as well.  As soon as my best friends get into a relationship, they're comparing penis sizes of their boyfriends.  I never understood why they would want to share such personal info when it's nobody else's business (and inappropriate)!

heyimPearlilikefries 2121 pts

I am really enjoying lurking on this thread!

VintageNarcissa 3152 pts

 TheZitaZitomihr On a completely unrelated note, there is a Pearl St. in lower Manhattan that I occasionally passed when I was in that area and it always made me think of you. Now I work in this area and I pass Pearl St. everyday :P 

heyimPearlilikefries 2121 pts

 VintageNarcissa  TheZitaZitomihr Oh my goodness I love that!

mlee 61 pts

This is pretty unbelievable that these types of things still happen.  I would understand this happening in a place like Mississippi but in New York?!?  The sad part of this incident is that black women like those give a bad name to the other black woman that want to meet someone.  I can't blame the guys reactions either.  No one wants to constantly and rudely rejected.

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Toni_M 20093 pts moderator

 Kia I feel really sorry for women who think like that because they are SO far behind the curve. Who are you rolling with where the first thing out of your mouth is, "The most important thing I can know about a man is the size of his penis"? You say things like that and then you go on about how white men only want you for sex or the only men who can appreciate you are black men? What exactly are they appreciating where you are pre-occupied with a man's "package"? Because that is rather telling, I have to say.

Brenda55 20976 pts moderator

 Toni_M  Kia "Who are you rolling with where the first thing out of your mouth is, "The most important thing I can know about a man is the size of his penis"? You say things like that and then you go on about how white men only want you for sex "

 

You never lie Toni. 

NewMaya3 357 pts

 Toni_M  Kia

 I REFUSE to talk about penis size with white girls, black girls, white guys and black guys.  I have had people in each of those groups bring up size with me for different reasons regarding black guys vs. white guys.   What people dont realize is that a lot of black men are insecure about their penis size also.  There is this stereotype that they have to live up to.  I have dated the MOST macho black men and they ARE insecure about penis size.  Whenever black guys in general brag about their sexual prowess, I just give them that side eyed look that black women are good at and they knock it off real fast....

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VintageNarcissa 3152 pts

 Kia AMEN! It really disturbs me that so many black women seem so superficial with what the feel is important in a man. Not that physical and sexual attraction is important. A man's package is not going to help you raise your children, or work to buy your dream house, or support you when things get rough. After a while it stops being a joke and is simply what it is, a clear indiction of these women's dysfunction. I mean, correlation does not equal causation, but the fact that all these women can think about relationships is sex and penis size and them having so much trouble finding positive relationships definitely goes hand in hand. 

mlee 61 pts

 VintageNarcissa  Kia

 There is definitely a need for these black women to revaluate what is a healthy and stable relationship.  This means changing their attitude about having the "finest-looking" man rather than a man of character.  But, unfortunately, unless they are to do that and open themselves dating men of all races, they will be in the same situation.

ScorpioEnigma09 80 pts

 VintageNarcissa  Kia Exactly.  I used to think it was just men who were so superficial, but women are too; and it makes things more difficult for people who want a real relationship.

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SisterRainbow 247 pts

 Kia Many women who are caught up in constant reinforcement of NBABM are alone. However, they will bend over backward for a Black man even if they suspect he isn't exclusive. These men have a large playing field and are quite arrogant about it. They do not have to try and please women, have no problem ignoring quality women, and will threaten to get someone else if a woman asks about commitment. The sex and size focus is surprising, because a man doesn't have to be healthy, supportive, responsible, caring, financially capable, a decent father, or anything worthy or valuable. All he has to know how to do is "that" and too many women become overly tolerant. Add to that the stereotype of Black men being well endowed and White men seriously lacking, and the curiosity and questions sometimes go below the belt. But, what is even more shocking is the nerve of any woman to ask you about your man's junk! If that isn't overtly forward, I don't know what is.

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NewMaya3 357 pts

 dani-BBW

 Girl it is the same story everywhere.

pioneervalleywoman 365 pts

@dani-BBW You and your friend need to stop talking to this BM "friend" about black women's dating relationship business. Moreover, she needs to have that mentor find her some quality men to date! She needs what has once been called a "stealth" strategy, ie., to go ghost and under the radar when it comes to dating interracially, meaning she should go about her business quitelty without broadcasting it!

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 pioneervalleywoman Well, I have always dated interracially (my first BF was white) so I don't feel a need to hide my dating choices under a bushel. I also have no problem countering ridiculous notions like WM interested in BW only want jungle booty and so I am happy to point to famous BW/WM couples and/or point out the hypocrisy when it comes to BM dating out. As for my friend, I can only point her to what makes sense. The rest is up to her, in terms of acting in her own best interest.

pioneervalleywoman 365 pts

 dani-BBW  I'm glad to hear that you have not let yourself be intimidated and that you are supportive of your friend!  I like what you are trying to do; on the other hand, debating black men about our choices seems to put us in the position of having to justify ourselves when it is none of their concern.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 pioneervalleywoman I come from a very tolerant, live and let live kind of family, so the idea of having the BC interfere in my dating choices is very foreign to me (no one has ever intimidated me about any of my lifestyle choices - career, men, hobbies, etc). Which I why I feel the need to correct nonsense, wherever it comes from, even if it's BM in my social circle (i.e. I spoke up about Tia Mowry being politically attacked b/c her husband is white). I'm also a pretty fact driven person in my day to day life, so when someone says WM only want BW for sex and the "proof" is that they don't marry/support BW, I HAVE to challenge that. I don't see it as justifying anything, I see it as standing up for what's right, you know?

pioneervalleywoman 365 pts

@dani-BBW I: see it as standing up for what's right, you know? Me: Nothing wrong with that.....

SisterRainbow 247 pts

I am attracted to Black men. But, I was not willing to remain single for 10 to 20 years, waiting to be accepted. I am uber feminine, an introvert, an atheist, graphic designer, have naturally curly wild hair, I love science & technology, and reading horror novels. African American men have it made. They have sooo many choices in Black woman, it is surprising that there are any Black men left to marry (for those who actually want to be husbands to Black wives, and not live their lives as players).

 

I am in a wonderful relationship with a Dutch graphic designer. He is multilingual, tall, blonde, blue eyed, cleft chin, handsome, and he wants children (after we are married, of course). The crap is soon to hit the fan, since only my immediate family is aware of him. I don't want to deal with hateful nonsense, but there's probably no way around it, so I better take a deep breath. It took long enough for my family to finally come around. At first, they thought it was just "a thing" and it would end. Now, they say hello to each other, happy birthday, ask how is he doing, ask when are you two coming over, and when is the wedding. Things have changed for them. Now, if they just get off my back about my hair...

 

As for the women talking all that crap in the restaurant, I am willing to bet most of them are attracted to White men, but they are being hard, or pretending to be, because they believe that is what Black men expect of them. To be single forever and die alone is the life for many Black women. This is very sad. As an introvert, I can deal with being alone. But, that doesn't mean I want to be. Why do so many people have a problem with Black women being happy? I guess I am supposed to be a Mad Black Woman, pissed off at the world. I hate racism, yes. But, I don't hate love. Even if my relationship was with a Black man, I would expect to be happy. The mindset for many women is that in order for us to be happy, we have to be with Black men. Oh really? :-)

Brenda55 20976 pts moderator

 SisterRainbow {{{{{{HUGS AND CONGRATS}}}}}}

 Glad you put yourself first. Found love and went for it.  You have your family in your corner. The rest goes a lot easier. 

SisterRainbow 247 pts

 Brenda55 Why, thank you Brenda. You must be speaking from personal experience. I have to read down...a lot. Hahaha! This is my first time on this site.

 

I assumed that I would marry a handsome, productive, creative Mandinka warrior...eventually. So, I gave my fiance' a hard time at first, but he was persistent, stubborn, and kept pursuing me. After a while I said, "Well, let's just see how much 'Mr. Nederlands' can really handle." We have a lot in common, without which, it wouldn't have mattered how handsome he was, I would have told him that I was not the one for him. But, we are both compatible, and that is the most important ingredient for a productive relationship. People need to be informed that race is not the same thing as being compatible.

Brenda55 20976 pts moderator

 SisterRainbow  "People need to be informed that race is not the same thing as being compatible."

 

Getting that message out is part of the reason this site and many like it exist.

Thanks for sharing our story. There is another woman reading your words and learning a thing or two.

NewMaya3 357 pts

 SisterRainbow

 You sound like you are fabulous as well as your Rainbeau.  Congratulations and the rest of them can kick rocks!

SisterRainbow 247 pts

 NewMaya3 Thank you. Hahaha...kick rocks is funny. I think people should be with whomever they choose, as long as they are telling the truth about their reasons for wanting each other. (But, no freaky Black woman sex fetish). That is just too weird.

VintageNarcissa 3152 pts

 SisterRainbow You had me at chin cleft! G'head girl! :P 

SisterRainbow 247 pts

 VintageNarcissa  He grew a stache and beard since we met. But, I still kiss his chin. Hahaha!

Brenda55 20976 pts moderator

 SisterRainbow  VintageNarcissa My hubby also has a cleft chin.  He also sported a Van Dyke for a while. Not any more. 

Now he sports chops like these.

Warning:

Gratuitous Hugh Jackman Beefcake photo.

http://cdn04.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/headlines/2012/09/hugh-jackman-shirtless-at-bondi-beach.jpg

VintageNarcissa 3152 pts

 Brenda55  SisterRainbow My hunny doesn't have a cleft chin, but he does have an odd... texture, to his chin that I adore. I often affectionately bite his chin (yes, I'm a weirdo), play with his heard when he has one and stroke his chin and jaw line when he doesn't. 

Brenda55 20976 pts moderator

 VintageNarcissa  SisterRainbow Thats not wierd.  Thats foreplay  (^_ -)

SisterRainbow 247 pts

 Brenda55  VintageNarcissa Semi-Wolverine chops for the win! :D My fiance's Van Dyke is pretty mild. Not a lot of blonde ones online. Some of those guys look like straight up monsters. Haaaaahahahaha!

SisterRainbow 247 pts

 Brenda55  VintageNarcissa Yeah...play with...everything. I mean, he's all yours, so do your thing. Men love it all anyway. So, if you put him in intensive care, he will still come back for more. Hee hee! Isn't it great to give and receive affection and not feel like a disregarded piece of meat?

All races of men are capable of love, even for us, as quiet as it's kept, and as much as it is skewed by the opposition. I was also told, about 15 years ago, that no one would want me. Guess what? I believed it for years. Racism in America will have Black women believing all kinds of untruths, and pining away for men who don't really want us for anything serious. In fact, for many of us, Black men only seem to take real notice when they see us with "the enemy" (because, all European men are racists, you know). Then, suddenly we are traitors, bitches, whores, skanks, and a dozen other imaginative terms. I think there is scroll somewhere with all kind of vile crap scribbled on it, represented with pictures of every shade of Black women in existence, bordering the entire hate scroll. If we had relationships with Black men who had no ambition, no creativity, no interests, nothing...it would not matter. Our man would be Black. That would be all that would matter. Not the lack of quality. But, when a man is swimming in sea of female choice, like most African American men, he doesn't have to be a quality man. Just alive. Well, I want more than just alive. I will end by saying that there are many quality Black men in this country. There just are not enough of them. Why, oh why can they not deal with this reality?

Brenda55 20976 pts moderator

 SisterRainbow  VintageNarcissa Girlfriend you sound like you have been to the wall with black men.

Well you are past all that and not only found that all that poison they fed you was not true you found the love of your life and are moving forward. You have left the Matrix.

pioneervalleywoman 365 pts

 SisterRainbow  Brenda55  VintageNarcissa 

 

Hubster:   van dyke beard with the mustache; it used to be more wolverine, I got him to shave it down years ago--yummy!

SisterRainbow 247 pts

 pioneervalleywoman  Brenda55  VintageNarcissa Sometimes, our men need a shave, so they aren't mistaken for werewolves during a full moon. Whatever makes hubbies more yummy, i'm all for it, even if their wives prefers more hair. Whatever sweet momma wants, she should definitely get. Hahahaha!

browniegirl360 205 pts

 SisterRainbow to HELL WITH BLACK MEN!!! DO YOU, don't worry about what others think, that man is good to you and that is all that matters! Black men and others will simply have to get over it. I never needed a black man to make me happy and my dating choices have long proved that.

HotToastAndButter 192 pts

Lolz at the woman who that kept 'eyeing him like he was a Christmas turkey'. No matter how many letters she writes to Santa, that's one tasty turkey she won't ever take a bite out off!

Brenda55 20976 pts moderator

 HotToastAndButter Girlfriend. I just had to pop in here and say that yours one of the hottest avatars on this site you naughty woman.

HotToastAndButter 192 pts

 Brenda55 Hehe!! Well thank you! ;)

HotToastAndButter 192 pts

As much as the NBABM crew say that they couldn't care less about interracial dating, they sure love to bring it up don't they?

Why do they lose sleep over something that doesn't concern them? By logic they should be ecstatic because if more black women date "out", that equals more black men for them and less competition. With swirling numbers increasing amongst Black women, if I was a NBABM female I would be doing the Electric Slide everytime I stepped outside of my house!!

 

Geez Louise! It's hardly Rocket science!

thecrazyartist 2420 pts

 HotToastAndButter

 I think the NBABM crew is a little jealous(deep down inside and  they will never admit it).  Why else would they keep bringing it up?  They have been told that no one wants them but black men, so when they see another black woman in a relationship with a non-black man, and she is being treated well, they suddenly think "why not me" or "something MUST be wrong with him".

HotToastAndButter 192 pts

 thecrazyartist That's so true. You know one of my former 'friends' was a self-confessed NBABM who loved the wannabe thug type of BM, any chance she had she would insult non-black men yet when she found out my boyfriend was white you know what she asked me? How can I put this nicely, she actually asked me detailed questions about what his (sorry kids) "Baguette" looked like! Yes, she wanted to know everything, size, scent, ratings out of ten, everything! She seemed more excited about it than I was and I'm the one dating the guy!

Yes, definitely some deep-rooted jealousy.

Brenda55 20976 pts moderator

 HotToastAndButter  thecrazyartist 

OK.  Gotta take a minute out here.

Sorry in advance to derailing the thread.

What is it with the curiosity with white guys junk? 

 

You know if a black women really wants the see what it looks like that is not very hard to do, you can easily find pictures anywhere.  For the rest, junk is junk it all pretty much works the same and really depends on the man's skill level. Race has nothing to do with ability. 

OK back to the thread in progress. 

Statuesque 2064 pts

 Brenda55  HotToastAndButter  thecrazyartist I WISH I KNEW.  I really do.  I am at a loss.

 

*sings why are there so many songs about rainbeaus?*