Paper Bag test? Are you Sh!ttin’ Me?

@Blackberry You're correct, I'd expect better thinkin' than that out of a plate of cottage cheese!

 NoDramaCiCi 

EXACTLY NoDrama. The BLACK individuals who keep pushing a White beauty standard for Black females in 2012 have nobody but themselves to blame and are the ONLY ones who should be held responsible for still pushing this slave mentality crap on Black women & girls. It is NOT hard to see the beauty in dark-skinned Black women & girls, but thise stupid, racist clowns do NOT want to see it.

That is just so sad. Dark-skinned Black girls in Africa being teased for being dark-skinned. Sigh, well like I keep saying this is a Black problem worldwide and not limited to any one country or region. The worldwide population of Black girls & women is being affected by this mess. Again, sigh.

 Shulamit There is certainly more to this topic than just light skin. I think some people on here are oversimplifying the issue. It's not just the skin, but the more Caucasian-like features and straighter hair that often comes with the skin. I heard that Quadroons and Octoroons were purposely created because there were so few white women in Louisiana for the men. They were basically trying to create the closest thing to a white woman they could get by breeding out the black. I heard this was also the case in the Dominican Republic and Brazil, which have large mulatto populations. The Portuguese and Spanish mated with the blacks in an attempt to "improve the population." 

 Tammy_Ghalden yes ma'am that is fact. but what's even worse even tho those women were bred that way--in Louisiana-- the men never married them because they were in essence 'black'.. ain't that something?

 Shulamit  it was a practice called Placage.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pla%C3%A7age

There was a movie based on an Anne Rice Novel called Feast of all Saints that  shows how the practice worked.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhjRtJh0jIU

 Shulamit 

Why didn't the French goverenment just pay more White women in France to go and help settle LA? That would have been better than messing with the dna. skin color, genetics, and pysche of innocent Black women. People can be really stupid sometimes!

Also do not apologize, your post was very informative and when it comes to this topic the more said, the better. And as far as the anger and derailment goes, well people are either interested in confronting this problem so we can think of ways to solve it or they are not. People are either interested in the facts about this problem or they are not. If they are, then they have to face the fact that they may hear some uncomfortable truths. But we have to do something, the well-being of our young Black girls is on the line here!

 AnInterestedObserver  Shulamit Tammy_Ghalden 

I've read that, to some, the Quads & Octs were considered more beautiful than the straight Euro women, so there was a market/fan base/fetish or whatever specifically for this mixtures.

 AnInterestedObserver  Shulamit  Tammy_Ghalden  *these* mixtures.

And oh yeah, there was the whole Acura commercial, where Acura (a higher end brand) and/or their casting agency, requested a BM for a commercial but preferred a lighter skinned men only. I don't know what the ethnicities were of the people who made the call, but while we need to work on colorism in the BC, if other races still use it as a dividing wedge or method of doling out power will that impede progress? 

 dani-BBW 

That Acura commerical is an anomoly. About 99.9% of the time you see a Black man advertising something either in Black or White American media, he is dark-skinned.

 dani-BBW  MySmile  "Acura commercial"

maybe they're were aiming for a bootleg Obama-like? lolz

 dani-BBW Yep, I don't know if the majority of white people view light skinned people more favorably (many white people are kind of oblivious), but it is more than we think. It is definitely coming from both sides. This is evident when you look at who is in positions of power and who is represented more in the media (not darker black people).

 MySmile  dani-BBW 

MySmile, are you seriously saying that there is a lack of dark-skinned Black MALES in either White or Black media? That is not what I am seeing.

 AnInterestedObserver  dani-BBW No, that's not what I'm saying. the most part it's dark skinned black women who are not represented. The position of power thing goes for both genders though.

 AnInterestedObserver  I didn't specify females but I thought you already knew my viewpoints on this. I have liked some of your other posts that touch on this subject (it's mostly dark skinned women who are not shown). Sometimes it's dark skinned people altogether though.

 MySmile 

MySmile, I am not trying to pick on you or anything. The thing is that one of the derailment tactics commonly used whenever this is bought up int Blackistan/mainstream Black circles, is that people will try to act like colorism affects Black females & males in a complete 100% equal manner, when we all know that that is not the case.If we are ever going to lick this problem then that has to be acknowledged.

I hope we are still cool!

 AnInterestedObserver Yep, we are still cool lol..I don't get upset that easily I just thought you were trying to put words in my mouth. You know I'm the last person who is trying to derail this topic! I'm a dark skinned woman myself..I notice how on tv they put a light skinned woman with a dark skinned man most of the times. Colorism does not affect both genders equally but it does affect all black people to a degree. Black men's struggle with colorism is not really my battle to fight though. I was just making a short, general statement.

 MySmile 

Thanks. I am sorry, I did not mean to imply you were trying to derail the topic or put words in your mouth. What I meant to say did not come out right. I am very, very passionate about this topic, and I can trip over my words/let my emotions get the better of me sometimes because of that. I apologize again.

 MySmile I think dark men are more represented. Dark women are the ones that aren't getting a fair shake. In tv shows and movies its always a dark man with a light skinned black women

 Asia  MySmile 

Yes they sure are. And the woman is either that or not Black at all.

 Asia  MySmile 

By "that", I meant light-skinned Black.

 AnInterestedObserver  MySmile true!

@Asia @MySmile you dont see a white guy who had light brown hair with a brunette either..she has to be blond artificial red or have 'crazy' colored hair...i know its different for us, we cant 'dye' our skin...oh BTW, Daddy King, MLK Sr, is LIGHTER than his son..MLK got his coloring from his mom

@zipporah I'm in the 1%, the 1% that likes dark hair, sultry contraltro voice, sexy dark eyes and short, sassy hair-doos. In my younger years, I had dark blonde hair, probabaly from my Swedish and German parents. O ya, steel blue eyes too. Now if I could just get someone to look past the white goatee, and streaks of gray at the temples life would be wonderful! LOL

 harleyq2 

You are the second person to mention a "British" connection to all of this. I will have to investigate that.

 Michael Miles No you are not, not by a longshot. Dark-skinned Black women are GORGEOUS! Black women with other skin tones are too, but we need to celebrate the dark-skinned Black female beauty more as celebration of that was and still is lacking.

 Michael Miles

 Thank you.  I definitely feel that way when I am out and among white men. 

 Vera123  Michael Miles 

You are very welcome, :)

 Vera123  Michael Miles 

Oops! Sorry Vera.

 AnInterestedObserver

 Dont be. That was directed to you and Michael Miles :)

@Elfe 4 words.........THEY'RE WRONG!! We're right. End of statement.

 dasdbobb  Elfe  lolz

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@Elfe I heard the 'blue vein'ers had MORE MONEY left to them by their WHITE UNCLES what was left after slavery was over...i also heard that between 1865-1896, there was a little jostling between blacks and whites, segregation wasnt legalized in the south,,so some blacks went around whites more UNTIL jimcrow

 Elfe 

"...You have this false, catch-all category of 'black', with all of these random people with various lineages sort of all smushed together...ostensibiy to protect the purity of the false label of 'white'ness? Under the larger racist umbrella, the 'blacks' re-sort themselves into a mini hierarchy based of the degree of non-african ancestry or appearance..."

YES! The one drop rule is straight up racist. IDK why black people in the US cooperate with it.

 Joyce345  Historically, it was useful for political purposes. That's why dark people in Latin America have made less progress compared to the USA. Here, people with a wide range of appearances are called "black" because they have some African ancestry. They have fought together to gain the right to vote, the right to public accommodations, and more. The Latin American model focuses on a person's appearance rather than their lineage, and only ebony and dark brown folks are considered black. So, a group of siblings may share an identity, but if they are different colors, they do not all call themselves "black," and the people with African ancestry who do not consider themselves "black" are less interested in fighting for civil rights for black people. So people like Rosa Parks and Kathleen Cleaver are part of the struggle, because they identify as black.

 Elfe 

Elfe, I see it more like this. Certain elements in the Black race were MORE THAN happy to have White/Whiter-looking women put into the Black race so they could have something close to the White females they crave. That is the engine driving this garbage, and instead of slowing down, it has only gotten stronger. For a woman or girl to be considered beautiful in the Black race, she has to either look very close to White/non-Black or be White/non-Black. Where does that leave the majority of Black women & girls who do NOT fit that description? I think we know the answer.

 Elfe  am I the only one who Ilikes the lights on? lol

 wanderingdreamer  Elfe "am I the only one who Ilikes the lights on? lol"

Probably......  ;)

 wanderingdreamer  Elfe 

am I the only one who Ilikes the lights on? lol

No. You're not. Not by a stretch.