Would You “Pass As White” Online to Get a Job?

Would You “Pass As White” Online to Get a Job?

One black woman searching for a job with no luck decides to change her profile from “black” to “white” then gets flooded with calls for her white alter ego, “Bianca.”

Author : Christelyn Karazin

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Damn Toure and his “post-racial” pablum. I just got word that a black woman, parched for a job, registered with Monster.com to get a job. Her name is Yolanda Spivey, and apparently her name was just black enough to filter out by potential employers, who were scarce on calling her. But as soon as she switch her “diversity profile” from “African American” to “White,” lo and behold, the phone wouldn’t stop ringing.

For two years, I have been unemployed.   In the beginning, I applied to more than three hundred open positions in the insurance industry—an industry that I’ve worked in for the previous ten years.  Not one employer responded to my resume.  So, I enrolled back into college to finish my degree. After completing school this past May, I resumed my search for employment and was quite shocked that I wasn’t getting a single response.   I usually applied for positions advertised on the popular website Monster.com. I’d used it in the past and have been successful in obtaining jobs through it.

Two years ago, I noticed that Monster.com had added a “diversity questionnaire” to the site.  This gives an applicant the opportunity to identify their sex and race to potential employers.  Monster.com guarantees that this “option” will not jeopardize your chances of gaining employment.  You must answer this questionnaire in order to apply to a posted position—it cannot be skipped.  At times, I would mark off that I was a Black female, but then I thought, this might be hurting my chances of getting employed, so I started selecting the “decline to identify” option instead.  That still had no effect on my getting a job.  So I decided to try an experiment:  I created a fake job applicant and called her Bianca White.

First, I created an email account and resume for Bianca.  I kept the same employment history and educational background on her resume that was listed on my own. But I removed my home phone number, kept my listed cell phone number, and changed my cell phone greeting to say, “You have reached Bianca White.  Please leave a message.” Then I created an online Monster.com account, listed Bianca as a White woman on the diversity questionnaire, and activated the account.

That very same day, I received a phone call.  The next day, my phone line and Bianca’s email address, were packed with potential employers calling for an interview.  I was stunned.  More shocking was that some employers, mostly Caucasian-sounding women, were calling Bianca more than once, desperate to get an interview with her.  All along, my real Monster.com account was open and active; but, despite having the same background as Bianca, I received no phone calls.    Two jobs actually did email me and Bianca at the same time.  But they were commission only sales positions.  Potential positions offering a competitive salary and benefits all went to Bianca.

So…is anyone surprised? Employers were tripping and falling over themselves for “Bianca,” but indifferent of the black woman who possessed all the qualities this fake white girl had, just with more melanin.

I’d love to see other readers do a similar experiment and call the company they interview out on their undercover bigotry.

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eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

Thank The Lord I'm not looking for a job, it's hell out there.

SisterRainbow 216 pts

This really pisses me off! It is as if nothing has changed. Nothing. Just like that damn doll test for girls. We are at the mercy of an industry that conducts routine employment statistics, listing Black women's salaries as lower, and unemployment as higher. But, of course no statistical report ever mentions the racist manipulation that continues to dismiss our potential for gainful employment with any upward mobility.

I started looking for another job earlier this year. My current long-time position has no promotional opportunity. I would not pass as White for the simple reason that when I get contacted as the fake applicant, it will hurt even more, because it would sink in deeper how much we are devalued by this society.

"More shocking was that some employers, mostly Caucasian-sounding women, were calling Bianca more than once, desperate to get an interview with her." But...some of us think we have a sisterhood thing with them. There is a Black male employee at my job who gets treated very well by the White women, but most of the Black women are ignored. I know this is a separate issue, but given the chance to promote a Black man, even if he is less qualified than his Black women coworkers is a normal routine in this country. And if he has no qualms stepping all over Black women to get ahead, he will become the office darling. But, don't let the White women hit the glass ceiling. Suddenly, this problem takes precedence over all other bullshit games in the office, of which they are sometimes the ring leader. I don't understand how anyone who claims to hate racism can use racism to get ahead.

This article reminds me of a Black woman who goes to look at a house or apartment, and suddenly it is not available. But, when her White husband goes alone to inquire later it's, "Yes sir, the place is still available and I can show it to you right now," or something similar. That must be a hard thing to tell his Black wife later on.

Unfortunately, these rejections affect just about everything in our lives. We have swallowed pills big enough to choke ourselves to death. It is no wonder we have higher blood pressure, stress, and yes sometimes we get pissed off for good reasons. She went back to finish her degree, but still was not good enough for the pathetically racist job market...mostly rejected by women who suffer sexism. I'm grinding my teeth right now.

MySmile 4255 pts

I'm also glad my name is Shelbi..conventional, yet there's a touch of creativity with the I on the end. lol..I plan on doing the same with my children.....no offense to anyone, but I'm not naming them anything extremely common (Ashley, Brittany, Lauren, Amber, etc). On the other hand, I'm not naming them something made up.....a little unique but not too crazy.

MySmile 4255 pts

Hell to the no. lol..end of story.

VintageNarcissa 3152 pts

I usually put my race/ethnicity on applications, I never thought anything of it. I was unemployed for just short of a year before getting hired again. In fact, it's one year today that I was fired from my old job. My first name is the uber English/Irish/Scottish name. Most people tend to think I'm white despite seeing my last name, which is Nigerian. But even so the name does not seem to be a very common name because most Nigerians of the tribe of my heritage (Igbo) have never heard it. Most people still see my last name and question my heritage. Personally, I think it sound more Yoruba than anything else. I have a Yoruba friend and her name is intricate and vowel intensive as mine. I also feel like my name could sound Japanese or even un-anglicized Gaeclic. It really trips people up. In my job search, I found that I had less luck with job listings on actual search sites like Monster or Linkedin. I heard back the most from Craigslist jobs. Never mind most of those jobs actually being unpaid internships, a lot of those places will hire just about anyone. This job market is tough as nail without discrimination, so you definitely want to be as truthful as possible on applications and resumes. If leaving your race/ethnicity off of your resume helps, by all means do it. 

 

When it comes to finding jobs online, don't be afraid to exhaust all avenues you can. I ended up finding my current job on Linkedin. I had applied to the job twice before, in January and July, both times I simply sent out my resume and cover letting to the hiring manager. This time however, I was getting emails about a free trial of Linkedin's job seekers account, so I signed up and then I applied again, the same day I registered the premium account. The account has a special "featured applicant" option that essentially put my resume at the top of their list. I got a call back the next day. I had my interview the day after (a Friday), and I was signing my contract the following Wednesday. The funny thing about it is, and I dunno, my job may just be EOE friendly like that, but my Linkedin has a photo of me, so if they didn't know I was black by my name, they damn sure knew I was black by my picture.

 

My bottom line, don't be afraid to play the game right back. I feel the applicant spotlight helped me get my job. While my job does have a handful of people of color, its not the most diverse place in the world. One interesting thing is that most of my co-workers in my department, who are white, except for one black who seems to have a pretty exceptional work background, are recent graduates, like walked across the stage this past May recent. And they all got to the very same job before I did, someone with two years of post graduate experience and four years of undergrad experience in my field. So it's definitely important to take the advantages where you can. Right now I'm real big fan of premium accounts. If you can get a free trial, try the service out for just one month if you can. Most sites have month-by-month memberships of their premium accounts, and you just cancel before the next billing date. 

 

Learning these truths is really daunting, but it's definitely to know so you can learn how to overcome them. 

somethingdifferent22 368 pts

Haha personally my name is very generic and white sounding luckily my dad got to name me instead of my mom (who wanted a made up name which became my  middle one). But there's been soooo many times where  you can tell that people are just surprised that I'm black even after talking on the phone they usually don't think I'm black until I check that box which is good and bad I suppose, sometimes they just want to increase they're diversity and others times they are just looking for someone to pick on. 

heyimPearlilikefries 2104 pts

I was actually thinking of changing my name to an actual African name. I actually like the sound of working off the internet.. anything that gives me freedom and anything NOT in a cubicle. 

 

I have about 6 names that I want. They are African and they sound 'black.' 

 

No matter where I work I'm not hiding my blackness.. they can kiss my ass if they don't like it. 

kiki100 630 pts

 astringofpearls Some of the African names I have heard are really nice. Nice to see you know the diff between a ghetto name and an african name. I have heard people calling names liek Jawain, Jabron, Darmeesha african names. Those names are not african....

KingsDaughter 4965 pts

 kiki100  astringofpearls LOL TOTALLY not African.

heyimPearlilikefries 2104 pts

 kiki100 I like that some African names (from certain countries) actually mean something and I love that. My mother says my name is African.. but I don't believe her! It may 'sound' African to some but it is NOT! African names don't sound ghetto at all actually. I don't think my name sounds ghetto.. I just want a name that means something and comes from Africa. Amber is an African name... I'm actually tempted to name myself and my future children after the mythological women rulers! LOL 

 

I googled 'african baby girl names' and this site came up.

 

http://www.africanholocaust.net/html_ah/africangirl_names.htm

KingsDaughter 4965 pts

 astringofpearls  kiki100  Pretty good site for a start. I would say that when picking a name know as much as you can about it. Africans sometimes  name children based on the situation around their birth ... and if if there was suffering, bitterness in the family well...... the child might end up with a name that translates to pain or hopelessness or giving up...

MissFLondon 667 pts

 KingsDaughter  astringofpearls  kiki100 

Yup, especially Yoruba names, Taiwo and Kainde for twins, Idowu is the sibling born after twins, Tokumbo if you were born or conceived abroad, and there's even one name (the spelling for which I cannot remember) that  means born with the cord wrapped around your neck. NIIICE!!!

 

Luckily I was given a pretty nondescript Yoruba name, because I can't have people knowing all of my business!!!

KingsDaughter 4965 pts

 MissFLondon  astringofpearls  kiki100 Oh my goodness, cord-wrapped-around-your-neck name is TOO much. My name means the only girl in the family, which I am so I guess my parents closed the shop after they had me ;)

mzsunshine 2603 pts

My ex's mother was asked by a white co-worker, ''why do black peple like to give their children names ending in 'a'." I can't remember her answer but I wonder how many recruiters weed out non-traditonal names ending in 'a' thinking they are weeding out a certain segment of society- mostly African-Americans.

She may have wanted to retort "why do whites like to give their children names ending in 'n'. e.g. Aiden, Braden, Madison.

keimiasmoon 1073 pts

 mzsunshine A lot of African American names come from the war period, when Black troops coming back from Europe (where they were treated better) were influenced by the names there. That might be one reason why they do that, however, generally Indo-European feminine names end in "a" so Blacks are just following convention in this regard. Generally, Whites tend to give their children names with a stress on the first syllable, while blacks prefer the second syllable. 

MissFLondon 667 pts

 mzsunshine This questions is a bit ridiculous; don't most female names end in a vowel anyway???

Joyce345 1751 pts

I'm not sure how much of a difference passing as white online would make. They'd probably still cut you off at the interview, but then getting more interviews may increase your chances of getting a job.

 

OTOH, you may have just handed them the perfect excuse to lock you out. I wonder what the legal ramifications are.

Sunshine789 752 pts

 Joyce345 The person who screens applications is not usually the person that does the hiring, so I think it could help you get a foot in the door. It is possible that the discrimination only exists with one person and not the whole company or the decision maker. I don't think I would change my name, but if I had a super-ethnic sounding name, I would go by a nickname instead. I think that would be a plausible excuse when you got to the interview stage. Also, technically most African-American people have white descendants, so it isn't entirely a lie...lol!

KingsDaughter 4965 pts

 Sunshine789  Joyce345 Ancestors you mean.

tracyreneejones 3936 pts

I was planning on flat ironing my hair straight tomorrow. It's the Devil, I say.....how did you all know.....I'm about to switch lanes momentarily using this pale winter complexion and gud hur trickery. 

Brenda55 20870 pts moderator

 tracyreneejones 

Woman stop.  It's still you be it fried, dyed or laid to the side. 

Switching lanes momentarily applies to going from AC to DC if you catch my drift.

Suburban Soulgirl 254 pts

I would not.  If the employer is a racist douchebag, they will not hire you anyway once they see your black face @ the interview.  

 

And sadly, traditional ethnic names are often confused with the made-up (ie ghetto) names.  For example- my name actually originates from Kenya, however, since it ends with an "ika", an unworldly person would not be able to discern the difference.  If a person wouldn't hire me based on my name, it's really their loss.  I am a pretty damn good employee and have kept the same job for 13 1/2 years now.

Tammy_Ghalden 875 pts

For those of you who think only people with made up names face discrimination, I'm sorry to disappoint. People with traditional, ethnic names are less likely to get call backs than those with Anglo names. I posted articles on this site before, but people chose not to fully read them and assumed that only "ghetto" names face discrimination.

DWB 8788 pts

 Tammy_Ghalden Would you want to hire a person named River Dawn? Moon? Summer Raine?

 

It is VERY unfair, but people are people and we are judged by others by standards that are quite stupid.

 

Tyrone, Trevor and Letticia are considered "black" names today, but were quite popular with white people in ages past.

 

I HATE prejudice, but be honest: What is thew FIRST thought of women that you have named Agnes, Ethel and Maude?

 

Biff? Archibald? Egbert?

Tammy_Ghalden 875 pts

 DWB  Tammy_Ghalden I wouldn't have a problem with hiring a person named River Dawn and that's why I don't understand the mindset of these people who discriminate based on names (race/ethnicity/religion). When I hear names like Agnes, Ethel, or Archibald, I think of older individuals because those names were popular in the past; but I wouldn't have a problem with interviewing/hiring an older person.

keimiasmoon 1073 pts

 DWB  Tammy_Ghalden What's wrong with River Dawn or Summer Raine?( I actually know an Amber Dawn, she's in a Law program.)  As a college instructor that encounters a wide spectrum of names, I find that there is no correlation between names and academic performance in my classes, so I don't know why that should be when it's a job.

DWB 8788 pts

 keimiasmoon  Tammy_Ghalden They are stereotypical names given by 60's hippy parents and have attached to them in the minds of some the negative attributes of their parents generation. Similarly, some southern naming patterns (a guy named Billy Joe Ray for example) can bring to mind negative aspects of southern culture.

 

You are ultimately correct though, we should all be judged as individuals and in the aggregate of what we offer. No matter how many time we are told not to, it seems part of human nature to judge a book by its cover, or title. There is such a big push in general American culture alternative spellings of names that this problem may lessen.

KingsDaughter 4965 pts

 DWB  Tammy_Ghalden  River, Sunshine (all nature-related names actually) bring up all the negative stereotypes of free-spirited (and flaky) types.

MissFLondon 667 pts

First of all, it's been mentioned but.... Ethnic names are not the sames as made up names!!! Just because a person has a name favoured by black people does not necessarily mean that the name is inherently ghetto.

 

I have been part of the hiring process and it is brutal and complicated. If the people reviewing the names are out and out racists or just slightly ignorant, they will not make that distinction.

 

Sometimes the issue is not just one of race, it is also of class. Poorly spelt or punctuated names as well as brand name type names can usually be attributed to young and or uneducated parents. The assumption is that this would have had a knock on effect on the first 18 years of this person's life and their composure, world view, ability to fit in with others, this is even before we discuss their education. I am not even tolerating this, I'm just pointing out the realities, as I've seen them.

 

I have to admit, I have shaken my head at some names, and they are not even as bad in England. Examples of just how messed up this thing really is.....

 

1) I, a Black African woman, have hesitated to call white/ other candidates with double barreled first names, and generally shocking names simply because of my fear of the cultural fit with more prestigious clients.

 

2) I worked with another Nigerian who, I noticed over time, favoured candidates from his tribe. (Their names are distinctive) They didn't necessarily get the job, but the initial meeting was pretty much assured. Which as a knock on effect improved their chances of being interview and thus being hiring in the long run. I know that this practice is prevalent in Africa where tribalism is still a huge problem.

 

3) I've had a Saudi Client politely tell me that for his Arabic speaking role, he would not accept a North African (Some can have an accent inflection)

 

4) I had my initial University Application form returned to me by my teacher. Explaining that I had used my European first name. Her concern was that coupled with my non African surname, my school (rural boarding), my choice of degree (Classics), my voice (plummy) and my application (smug). She mentioned that I was not "giving a clear picture in order to take full advantage of the current climate"

 

So my white career advisor had me rewrite my application, adding my full name, with one Nigerian name and alluding to my African Childhood and upbringing. She called it "hedging my bets"

 

Nothing is ever that clear where dealing with people is concerned!!

 

 

Jamila 7657 pts moderator

I'm not sure what to make of this "study," because the woman didn't use her real name AND say that she was white. She just used her real information on one resume, and then on the other resume she changed her name and race.  By changing two variables--her name and race--it is impossible to tell which one recruiters were reacting to. 

 

Also, there was a comment over on the original post by a person who said that racial information is only used for internal metrics, recruiters don't see it. If this is true, then the recruiters were reacting to her name--"Yolanda"--rather than her race. 

 

 

kiki100 630 pts

 Jamila Yes it seems Yolanda sounds black to them. I too thought that the recruiters cannot see race. Could we be wrong? I don't see this as coincidence though.

Suburban Soulgirl 254 pts

 kiki100  Jamila Yolanda is actually a more popular name among Latinas...I rarely, if ever have known of a black girl with that name (cept the rapper YoYo lolO).

Jamila 7657 pts moderator

I have a very "ethnic" sounding name, and people tend to ask me where I am from all the time. They think I'm from a middle eastern country and will always ask where I'm  from and if I'm Muslim. Then when I tell them I'm just regular 'ol black American--bred, born, and raised in the US--they then ask me if I know what my name means (I'm guessing they must have assumed my parents just picked this name because it was pretty but weren't culturally aware enough to know what my name means in Arabic?). I had one Arab man "teach" me how to say my last name. 

 

I think we should make a distinction between ethnic names and "made-up" names. I don't think having an ethnic name hurts you as much as having a name that signals "lower class". For instance, in a job hunt, a black man named Michael James, or even an ethnic Nigerian name, would probably not be harmed by his name; but having a name like De'Amonte Smith just screams "My mother was a single mom and she thought this name was cute, and I speak with African American Vernacular English--despite the fact that I have a college degree."

Toni_M 20025 pts moderator

 Jamila "I think we should make a distinction between ethnic names and "made-up" names."

 

Truth. I started to go on a tangent about this but few things irritate me more than persons making up an "ethnic-sounding" name rather than looking a name up. That just...it's so ridiculous. How hard is it to go on Google and find a name. It's really ignorant of people to assume that someone's cultural heritage is so simplistic that you can just make-up a name to associate with it. Especially if it's a culture you are not part of and know nothing about. :/ 

keimiasmoon 1073 pts

 Jamila Having an ethnic name that is associated with African Americans most certainly hurts you because you're dependent on HR to be knowledgeable about the range of possible ethnic names, and considering the general ignorance of ethnicity in America, I don't think that's a good thing. In a comment below a woman didn't get a call back because she was named Fatima, a Muslim name but a name that also spans Europe and Latin America. I really hate the discussion on "made up" names because it's really one minor point in an ugly racist practice. You can't even blame a made-up name all the time either. Michael James will get a call. But Malachi James won't. Both Biblical, but one is associated with Whites, and one associated with Blacks. What about the name Vanita? Black, Hispanic, Hindu? What about names that are commonly associated with African Americans like Jenkins, Jackson and Washington? Ok you got that covered? Is your zip code associated with an African American neighborhood? What about your area code? Where is your degree from? An HBCU? An institution with a high number of minorities? Got a social media profile? Is your picture showing? Are you shown with a number of Black people?  Is your friends list a large number of Blacks? Are they Blacks with "ethnic" names?  etc. We would be foolish to think that we can escape this by just changing our names. 

Jamila 7657 pts moderator

 keimiasmoon I've never know Malachi to be associated with whites--or blacks--although the one person I know of named Malachi is black. The name simly reads "Jewish" to me. 

 

I agree with you that we are all being judged on any number of factors that may count against us. 

keimiasmoon 1073 pts

 Jamila Non-Jewish whites think Malachi is a "Black" name in the same way that they think Isaiah and Elijah are Black names, though they are Hebrew. 

The Working Home Keeper 6959 pts

 keimiasmoon  "Where is your degree from? An HBCU? An institution with a high number of minorities?"

 

When I was a senior in high school, my top two choices for college were a large, public university (predominantly white) and a HBCU.  The HBCU offered me a full scholarship.  Most of the staff members at my high school, were really pushing me towards the HBCU.  But, I had one teacher - an older, white man - that plainly told me when it comes to looking for a job after graduation, a degree from the public university says one thing and a degree from the HBCU says another.  He said, "It's not right, but that's the way it is".  

kahlilakamara 6 pts

 Jamila My twin sister's name is Jamilla and my name is also Arabic. It gets butchered a lot but I do get many compliments! So I feel you!

Maxine 1006 pts

I don't trust those disclaimers that checking the race box won't hurt your chances of employment.  Sure, they are for reporting purposes.  They're for the company to say "We reviewed x number of resumes from minorities."  Has nothing to do with actually hiring any of them, especially if it's a small business.  

kiki100 630 pts

 Maxine Wow good point. Now we know that BS about blacks constantly benefiting from affirmative action is a lie.  Total BS

nikee 44 pts

this is highly disturbing those places should be reported and charged somehow

uninterracial 987 pts

This very reason is why networking is encouraged. I myself as an adult have never really been that outgoing. Probably because I was popular in high school and into everything I just wanted a break. But when it came to looking for a job, it's very important that people know you personally so they can vouch for you. I used to roll my eyes at people who were all about networking, but it works. I have never (knock on wood) had any issues in this area, probably because I also majored in science. Even if you have to force yourself to break out of your comfort zone, you should do it. I did after being a stay-at home mom for 4 years trying to start a new career. It worked and I got a foot in the door in a field that's really hard to get practical experience. The online process makes it way too easy for these companies to discriminate. As people of color, we have to work harder to defy those stereotypes and I think networking is definitely the way to go.

thecrazyartist 2415 pts

 uninterracial

 co-sign,  I am not that outgoing and have realized that online job networks are my best bet.  I am quiet, introverted and kind of a loner.  Getting out of my comfort zone has been hard(baby steps) but worthwhile.

Sunshine789 752 pts

 uninterracial That is the best point ever! Networking is really the only (mostly) sure way out of this trap. I am getting better at it, but it is tough.

PamelaFoster 660 pts

Sounds like a good "What Would You Do" episode in the making!! It makes me sad that we STILL have to wade through murky waters to gainful employment.  My mother was very cognizant of this dirty & made sure all of us had Patrician sounding names.  Unfortunately this is the very fact why America has declined in status & economy--some would rather lose a business than hire the most competent person for a job...go freaking figure!!   

kiki100 630 pts

 PamelaFoster That is why I use my nickname on applications versus my real name.

Asia 225 pts

I'm not shocked but saddened by this. It's sad that this is happening. More people need to try this and as Christelyn says call out these companies!

Sunshine789 752 pts

I admit that I have considered lying on those EEOC survey boxes to see what would happen... I think I might try it now. I think there should be a law that lets you submit a work application or resume without a name attached so that you are judged strictly on your skills! Maybe some site could filter out the names and hold them in escrow until the interview has happened, thereby giving more proof to employment discrimination.

The Working Home Keeper 6959 pts

A few years back I was able to participate in the hiring process for a new departmental admin.  It was after that process that I realized just how easy it would be to discriminate against a candidate on the basis of anything really (even within an EOE environment).  After we interviewed one particular candidate, my boss at the time told me he had "one last prejudice".  It was weight.  And because this young lady was overweight, he would not consider hiring her. Certainly an eye opening experience for me!

 

When applying for jobs, I've always avoided adding anything into my resume with regards to race, religion or political affiliation.  My name and voice oftentimes gives the impression I'm white.  So, I'm sure I've surprised some prospective employers in the past!