Politics: The Big Message from the New Hampshire Primary: Bashing Black People Doesn’t Sell Like It Once Did

Politics: The Big Message from the New Hampshire Primary: Bashing Black People Doesn’t Sell Like It Once Did

Their ploy didn’t work because we are now in recession, we have experienced the looting of America by Wall Street, and the Occupy Wall Street protesters have shined a light on the reality of just how close many of the people in this nation are to poverty. Poverty is not just a black and white thing, so trying to play pin-the-welfare-tail-on-the-blog-people is not going to work. Not now.

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The results from the New Hampshire Primary are rolling in: Mitt Romney comes in first place; Ron Paul in second place; Jon Huntsman in third place; Rick Santorum and Newt Gringrich were fighting it out for third and fourth place, last time I checked. Michelle Bachman bowed out after her poor showing in the Iowa Caucus. Rick Perry…who? But what was most interesting about the New Hampshire results was the lackluster showing of Rick Santorum and his sidekick Newt Gingrich who were fighting it out with each other for 4th place. Last week Newt Gingrich was saying black people need to lay off the welfare and Santorum was cosigning Newt’s message. Unfortunately for Gingrich and Santorum (but fortunate for the rest of the country who didn’t fall for their antics), the rest of the country saw their race-baiting for what it was: a transparent and weak attempt to win votes with the most conservative voters in America. Their ploy didn’t work because we are now in  recession, we have experienced the looting of America by Wall Street, and the Occupy Wall Street protesters have shined a light on the reality of just how close many of the people in this nation are to poverty. Poverty is not just a black and white thing, so trying to play pin-the-welfare-tail-on-the-blog-people is not going to work. Not now.

 

The European Union and the Euro have been teetering on the edge of financial collapse. Spain and Portugal are weighted down by massive debt problems and unemployment. Spain has a 22.9 percent unemployment rate. It was just announced that the unemployment rate in the US is now 8.5%; compare America to parts of Europe and it becomes clear that Americans are sitting pretty in comparison to many Europeans.

1 in 2 Americans is poor or low-income. Record numbers of Americans are relying on food kitchens to eat. All across the US people–black, white, Hispanic–are using food stamps to keep food on the table. The face of poverty can be a brown face or a white face one–and the rest of America knows that.

I think Santorum and Gingrich now understand that beating the ‘get off welfare’ drum doesn’t work when many of the people you are talking to are either on welfare, or close to it.

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Patricia Kayden 543 pts

spec187

So Bush who started an unjustified war is the same as Obama who ended the war?

And the Republicans who have made it very clear that they do not support gay rights are the same as the Democrats who have repealed DADT?

And the Republicans who year after year rant and rave against choice are the same as Democrats who support reproductive rights?

I could go on and on. I see big differences between Republicans and Democrats. HUGE. But it may be because I am originally from Canada and am way more liberal than the Democrats will ever be.

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Jamila 2824 pts

"...Republican boogieman will take away their civil rights & throw them in concentration camps (which is also the main purpose of your article)."

The Republicans are pushing measures to restrict voting rights in several Southern states, targeting poor people and those of color.

Republican governors in several states (Wisconsin being one) have passed laws allowing them to place schools and other public institutions under emergency management of the governor in order to circumnavigate the legal system and the checks and balances on their powers.

Rick Perry wants to eliminate direct voting for state senators, he thinks they should be appointed by the governor.

There is a very real movement going on within the Republican party to take away civil rights and throw people into concentration camps (otherwise known as the 'US prison industrial complex). If you don't know this stuff you need to pay more attention to national politics.

Nate00

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Jamila 2824 pts

"Do you think non-citizens should vote?"

The Republicans don't give a hoot about non-citizens voting--that's just the line they have people repeating. There is absolutely no indication that illegal immigrants are using fake Id's to vote in an attempt to swing elections for Democrats. None.

"Because if you do, that is the only reason to oppose photo ID laws."

I don't oppose any laws that say people have to present ID in order to vote.

"How about ending drug prohibition entirely?"

Entirely? No. But for certain drugs, under certain conditions, I believe it is reasonable that laws be relaxed.

Nate00

Jamila 2824 pts

"The biggest lie in the campaign is the phony cry of "voter fraud". Despite the fact that in the 2008 elections the incidence of actual voter fraud, that is, someone not eligible to vote actually managing to cast a vote, amounted to less than 0.00003% of the total vote, the Republicans justify the wholesale denial of a basic right by claiming we have a voter fraud "crisis". Even now, despite no evidence to support it, the Right Wing drones make stupid jokes about dead people and illegal aliens voting. Of course, when you ask for an example they run screaming for cover, since there ARE no examples."

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/the-republican-partys-election-fraud-hypocrisy/question-2384257/

Nate00

Jamila 2824 pts

Nate said: "How about ending drug prohibition entirely? That is the real enemy of black people."

Since white men use drugs at about the same rates (even if they are using different drugs) as white men, the problem is not drug prohibition, it is the disparate treatment that blacks receive when being charged.

"Drug treatment is now available to just one in ten of the inmates who need it. Among those arrested for violent crimes, the proportion who are African-American men has changed little over the past twenty years. Among those arrested for drug crimes, the proportion who are African-American men has tripled. Although the prevalence of illegal drug use among white men is approximately the same as that among black men, black men are five times as likely to be arrested for a drug offense."

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1998/12/the-prison-industrial-complex/4669/

Nate00

Maxine 207 pts

Nate00Jamila Does the Republican party want to do anything to change drug prohibition? Unless you're referring to maverick candidate Ron Paul, not in a million years. If anything, Republicans give more support to the privatized prison industry that profits from drug prohibition and its uneven enforcement. And anyone who's lived in or worked the polls in a rural, heavily black areas can attest to the fact that many residents--often elderly--have no state ID because they do not drive or fly on planes.

Patricia Kayden 543 pts

JamilaNate00

Jamila,

I love your articles. And this one hit the nail on the head.

Republicans can continue to race bait all they want, but that is not going to work as the US becomes more multicultural and diverse. This is not the 1950s.

Patricia Kayden 543 pts

Nate00Jamila

I'm a staunch Democrat. So what? Jamila never said that if Democrats controlled everything, we would all be living on Cloud 9. She simply called Gingrich and Santorum out for their race baiting.

There is so much race baiting in your party. Do you ever scold your fellow Republicans for that?

Democrats have the first Black president in history to their credit. And I don't see any race baiting at all from Democrats that is comparable to what the Republicans do.

Maxine 207 pts

Nate00Jamila Nor did I claim Democrats want to end it. But just take medical marijuana for example--how many states in liberal areas such as the West or New England have it approved it vs. the conservative South or Midwest? And when I refer to the prison industry, I'm not referring local law enforcement profiling individuals, but the growth of private prisons at the national and state level. It is the conservative mantra of "big government bad" that has lead to the privatization of some things that shouldn't be. As long as prisons are a business that people can invest in and profit from, there will always be a contingent that wants to block you from changing laws that would hurt that business. As for as activists driving people to get their IDs...what happened the last time a liberal organization assisted the poor, minorities, and the elderly with voting rights? ACORN.

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts moderator

Nate00Patricia KaydenJamila Hold it, you're the one that brought the race baiting thing up now that you're not feeling like you can come out on top with it, you don't want to talk about racism. Puhleeze that's disingenuous. You don't get the change the game in the middle of it.

number 4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

Ya'll need to watch out, something about this may become heated. And everyone watch yourselves I'm moderating this.

Maxine 207 pts

Nate00Jamila No they are not a non-issue. Your claim was that the biggest enemy to black people was drug prohibition, and I'm showing why most of the people with vested interests in not repealing that prohibition are Republican. One needs only to compare the voting records of the parties on prohibition (see med pot example), as well as follow the money trail, e.g. which politicians are receiving money from private prison lobbies.

Patricia Kayden 543 pts

Nate00Jamila

Nate,

Are Republicans demanding that voters in their primaries show voter id? If not, why not?

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts moderator

Nate00Patricia KaydenJamila I'm not part of this discussion I'm moderating it. Take it anyway you want you read it, you comprehend it. I'm a moderator that's what I do. Don't try to manipulate me, I don't appreciate it.

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts moderator

Nate00Patricia KaydenJamila There will be no bullying on here.

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

eugeniamitchell

Nate00 left never to return....so he says.

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts moderator

Brenda55 Oh yea I saw that cute post. I was just giving a warning. I know ppl get heated about politics but you can't bully. Gotta be able to tell friend from foe especially in these times on this blog.

Lili2009 1216 pts

If 2008 was any indication, Mittens will use a lot of "code" to attract the white working class who need to blame immigrants, minorities, or "socialism" for their problems. Mittens will never, ever hold banks or corporations accountable. He is Gordon Gekko personified.

Jamila 2824 pts

Some of the Republicans were really beating the 'anti-immigration' drum in the early stages of the campaign. I specifically remember Herman Cain doing so.

Illegal immigration has been declining in this country for the last few years, Obama deported almost a million illegals, and the border patrol is STILL hiring. So you know that all this anti-illegal immigration stuff has been mainly about energizing the base, not actually coming up with sensible policies.

Lili2009

Mocha Z 1791 pts

JamilaLili2009 Lol...ok so we need to be calling them back soon.

I wish I had all the links but there was an article about health care and how Mexican citizens will be in high demand for US health care work. We apparently don't have enough children to take care of our aging population.

They also mentioned that US citizens may even have to go to Mexico to stay in skilled nursing facilities because there just won't be enough supply for demand.

Treating our neighbors bad is not a good thing.

kiki100 305 pts

Mocha, I want to see where that info comes from.

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts moderator

Mocha ZJamilaLili2009 The reason it's declining so much is b/c we don't have no work. Why come here?

Nkosazana 237 pts

Jamila, Those countries are seen as lazy and irresponsible. (Spain Portugal, Italy and Greece). They are not like the rest of the responsible ones with good economies. They are populated with lazy and entitle people who lay under the olive trees all day. Mommies boys all of them.

The tone against them is very harsh by the people in better countries.

Mocha Z 1791 pts

Nkosazana I saw something on tv several years ago, when I still watched it, about Italian momma's boys and how the schools were closing because people were not marrying and having children partly as a result of that. That the population was dwindling because the young up and coming women were faced with momma's boy's

I also read a couple of years ago when Greece was in the spotlight and on the verge of collapse that they were being scrutinized because many were fudging on their property taxes by failing to mention pools which had some effect on them. That they pretty much relied on government jobs.

Spain, I heard similar things but not as much detail about it.

Mocha Z 1791 pts

Nkosazana Oh...the show about the Italian momma's boys had me cracking up.

They showed a guy living at home, twin bed, mamma cooking cleaning, ironing his clothes...it was crazy. I had a flash of this song pop in my head......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av7m_Pgt1S8

Nkosazana 237 pts

Mocha Z Yeah. I'm never going to get the American BW fascination with Italy. Bunch of lazy scrubs if you ask me. Too much like black men they are suppose to escape..

Mocha Z 1791 pts

Nkosazana I never was into swag...I like mine straight up. Any hotness factor that Italian men had was doused with some serious ice blocks.

There is nothing hot or fascinating in trifling. I saw them being the same as the bm that are here like that too, lol.

Jamila 2824 pts

It's the 'tall, dark, and handsome" thing along with the Latin lover stereotype that makes S European men seem so hot. Mocha Z Nkosazana

Nkosazana 237 pts

Mocha Z Yeah. Nothing hot with a 30 year old unemployed man grinding on you in a club and driving a moped for the rest of his life.

No, I'll take my 'swagless' or GAY as the hyper macho southern Europeans like to like to call them, northerners. They actually help out at home and got jobs. Ask Scarlet :)

kiki100 305 pts

Nkosazana There are a bunch of women from a site who travel to Italy every year. They love it. Also, I like Italian men from here, versus the ones there.

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

NkosazanaMocha Z "Yeah. Nothing hot with a 30 year old unemployed man grinding on you in a club and driving a moped for the rest of his life."

LOL! x.X

Nkosazana 237 pts

kiki100 It is just my opinion. And <em>many</em> European girls backs me up on that. So overrated, heck it used to be the same thing with Scandinavian girls loving Italy and that area during the 70s, 80s. In the end they figured it out, Now they are not so keen on those men any more. Giving them STDs and all kinds of stuff.

Trips is one thing.. Anything looks good if you only there for a short time. It's called the 'honeymoon phase'.

Jamila 2824 pts

I've heard about the 'mommas boys' thing too.

I was reading a book titled The Coming Population Crash and one of the women in one of those southern European countries with low-birth rates said that she had no plans to marry her boyfriend, who lived with his mother. She said the same thing about men being very entitled and patriarchal, and she wanted little to do with that.

A southern European woman (or perhaps it was the author) was that it was better to have a man 'on tap instead of on top' because marrying them would just be too much of a burden.

Nkosazana

Jamila 2824 pts

I think those countries get a rep as being lazy and irresponsible due to their governments being heavily populated by socialists. Capitalists always bash the socialists as being lazy and irresponsible. Nkosazana

Nkosazana 237 pts

Jamila Ehm. Sweden is like one of the biggest socialist countries in Europe and people here thinks the same about the southerners. And our government is far from irresponsible. But I think it helps that the people here are not as spoiled as the people down south. They seems to get when there have to be cuts and hard decisions needs to be made. like the big cuts in the 90s.

Patricia Kayden 543 pts

Nkosazana

Ireland and the UK are also going through severe economic crises. Are they considered lazy and irresponsible too?

Nkosazana 237 pts

Patricia Kayden It's not the same as with Greece for example. UK got a massive immigrant problem for example. I'm not feeling sorry for them at all, deserves it IMO.

You have no idea how irrisponsible people were with money in like Greece. Like buss drivers could drive from and to work on work hours. Got 300 euro for coming on time.

Train operatiors got 5 000 euro per year for washing their hands.

Just two examples.. But the milk and honey days are over for them.

Dubya 5 pts

NkosazanaPatricia Kayden The UK has immigrants. They don't have an immigrant problem. The influx of of immigrants between 2000-2007 caused the largest boom in the Irish economy. In Ireland it was know as the "Celtic Tiger". The UK saw and massive increase in immigrants at the same time with any adverse effects on the economy. The problems in the UK and Ireland are due to the over investment in and eventual collapse of Collateralized Debt Obligations. The same thing that took down Iceland. The only reason they are not doing as poorly as Iceland is that Iceland had a larger protion of the countries assets in CDO's.

Nkosazana 237 pts

DubyaPatricia Kayden Can't honesty tell me, that the uneducated sheep herders from god-knows-what-istan contributes in the UK? I've seen numbers of unemployment in the UK and welfare recipients.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1237061/Millionaires-Row-2009-How-hundreds-families-luxury-homes-benefits-far-means-working-people.html

Jesus Christ when I went to my class for Swedish for immigrants (just a few weeks then the university payed for private lessions) there were people from the most rural countries in the world who did not even know the concept of going to work. All the educated ones went to US and Canada. And a few to the UK.

Browncow 303 pts

I can follow you on this one. Gingrich and Santorum were talking to the wrong people. I love it up in New Hampshire. The people are very friendly and I have good friends there who are an IR AM/WW couple. I wish I could move to NH just so we can raise our children together and be next door neighbors. That's how much my husband and I like them. You are right though that since the states up North are overwhelmingly white, they make the vast majority of welfare recipients. I saw this all the time when we lived in Vermont and Maine. I mean, WIC, Foodstamps, you name it and after the recession hit my husband volunteered at a soup kitchen for the homeless and less fortunate and you would find families coming to eat dinner because they couldn't afford food. It was a good system because the local grocery stores and independent families would participate in donating food, cooking, serving, and cleaning. The people there were awfully sweet.

Anyways, my vote would be for Ron Paul. Hear me out now. I think he's a stand up guy and of all the candidates, he actually has a plan. He answers the stupid questions about superficial bullsh!t with intelligence and bringing it back to the actual issues. I think that many people get confused with Libertarians as some sort of isolationist, no government type of political movement when it isn't that. It's limited government (like republicans, but for real) and taking care of our people here. I don't want to get on a tangent or anything, but I do like Dr. Paul. Mitt Romney is just another Colgate smiling puppet of the mainstream establishment. He'll more than likely get the nomination which I'm loathe to admit. In this case it's basically choose the lesser of two evils. Nothing is going to change either way in my estimation.

Jamila 2824 pts

I'm a Ron Paul supporter too! Browncow

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Jamila 2824 pts

I can't speak for Browncow, but I supported Ron Paul as the Republican candidate in 2008. When he didn't get the nomination I didn't vote for president in the general election because I knew Obama was going to beat McCain.

The racist tracts were years ago, he has said he did not write them and has since disavowed them. Paul has delivered the babies of non-black women and the children of illegal immigrants in his practice as an ob/gyn; he has also done free work for poor people. So when the man says he is not a racist, I believe him.

If Obama can disavow his spiritual adviser then Paul can disavow those newsletters.

Nate00Browncow

Nate00 13 pts

JamilaBrowncow Well, that's certainly interesting. I apologize for impugning your sincerity. But nevertheless, you must know that Paul would have no chance to beat our current POTUS in a general election. I'm honestly ignoring the Repub primaries this year; they have already staged too many debates which leaves them overexposed to attack. (btw, you do know that Paul is for legalizing all drugs, even heroin?)

Browncow 303 pts

JamilaNate00 I agree with you. At first I didn't know where Paul was coming from back in 2008 but two years into our current administration my husband and I did our research and found Sen. Paul to be a forthright and sincere person. I agree with is views on bringing Liberty back to the U.S. As an ob/gyn Dr. Paul did lots of charitable work for the poor and had no issue with delivering non-white children. Don't believe me? Watch this story.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4&feature=channel_video_title

Nate00 13 pts

BrowncowJamila Umm he's a Representative... I do think he would be the one candidate that would try to foster real change, but I don't know if he could succeed given the corruption in Congress.

Browncow 303 pts

Nate00Jamila Oops.(deep crimson blush) I made a mistake. Rep. Paul. Is that better? I agree with you that there are too many hands in the honey pot and with all the corruption in Congress, they will not make it easy for a President Paul. But I'm still voting for him and my values. He is, if given a fair chance, the only one who would actually try to make a positive change in our country. The idea is starting to take hold and I believe that it may not be today, but someday when people get fed up enough, the change will be made. Or we just wait for our financial system to crash and burn and most of our rights taken away before we take it to the streets.

Jamila 2824 pts

"But nevertheless, you must know that Paul would have no chance to beat our current POTUS in a general election."

That's what so many people keep saying, but I intend on supporting him until he throws in the towel. I believe that it is important to support the person you believe in and to support your principles, especially so when it is not the popular thing to do. Ideas and people don't become popular if everyone who believes in those ideas throws in the towel before they catch on.

Paul thinks drugs are a states right issue. Some states will be more lenient than others.

Nate00Browncow

Nate00 13 pts

BrowncowJamila The establishment elites want the US to be nothing more than an international free trade zone. That is why they glorify the immigrant. They want subjects not citizens and the Occu-Thugs are their foot soldiers.

Nate00 13 pts

JamilaBrowncow Btw, here is Norm Stampler, former Seattle Police Chief, calling for an end to the War on Drugs and legalization :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1MBrUMauak

Only legalization will end the destruction of the black family through the Prison Industrial Complex.

Dubya 5 pts

BrowncowJamilaNate00

I really do not see what his delivery of non-white children has to do with his views on civil rights. Ron Paul believes that the government should not have any civil rights laws because they are unconstitutional and infringe on the rights of private business owners. That sounds great in principal, but this is how it works in reality. As long as I own a private business I can discriminate in hiring and service. He believes; that's just the price we pay for being in a truly free society. I believe him when he says he is not a racist and he is looking at it from the perspective that the government should not have the power to force anyone to do anything.

Well that's great in principal but imagine how that works in real life. You have have to check to see if a company was "whites only" before you applied for a job or when try to buy a muffin. You may not realize it but 90% of the companies you do you normal shopping with are private businesses. Imagine if you had to live your life like that. You had to teach your kids about "white only", or "asian only", or "blacks only" etc. Who wants to live in society like that. So if private business have to have their liberties infringed upon so I don't have to live in outwardly racist society. So be it. I would rather not carry a "race map" with me when I need to get some toothpaste. Ron Paul is an idiot if he thinks society would be better served by this.

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