Question Numero Dos of the Week: How Do I Sack the “Strong Black Woman” Role?

Question Numero Dos of the Week: How Do I Sack the “Strong Black Woman” Role?

Through my years of reading and learning about the BWE cause, I have come to know that notions like the “Strong Black Woman” or being “Ms. Independent” have to die. In other words, black women need turn their backs on this mindset. Currently, I am a single mother of 3 children and these are things that I have to be since I am the sole bread winner. I have family members who tell me that they admire me because even with 3 children, I’ve accomplished so much. I’m quick to tell them that I don’t want to be admired because in actuality, I want a break and I hate having to be strong and independent. So, my question is, how do you turn your back on this mindset when you are still forced to be it daily due to certain responsibilities, like my kids?

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This came from my FB friend, “S,”:

Through my years of reading and learning about the BWE cause, I have come to know that notions like the “Strong Black Woman” or being “Ms. Independent” have to die. In other words, black women need turn their backs on this mindset. Currently, I am a single mother of 3 children and these are things that I have to be since I am the sole bread winner. I have family members who tell me that they admire me because even with 3 children, I’ve accomplished so much. I’m quick to tell them that I don’t want to be admired because in actuality, I want a break and I hate having to be strong and independent. So, my question is, how do you turn your back on this mindset when you are still forced to be it daily due to certain responsibilities, like my kids?

“S,” as much as I agree with you that the “strong black woman,” which is basically code for women who work all day and half the night taking care of family and home with virtually no help from a partner, must die. But I’m uncertain that at this point, how feasible it is not to shake off that imposed role when you do have to be strong, and you do have to work to survive and take care of yourself and your kids. It’s not so much the matter of a label, it’s a matter of survival. When it was just Maxi-Me and me, I worked 10-hour days, came home, cooked dinner, did education enrichment (she was only in preschool at the time), put her to bed, and started the process all over the next day. I was CONSTANTLY worried, because I knew it was just me–aside from my parents, there would be no soft place to fall if I lost my job or got sick, or if Maxi-Me got sick. It was terrifying. But I was unable to show that fear, because I had to be strong for my child. I had to take that responsibility, because I went in with eyes wide open. What I’m getting at is, you and I had to be strong out of survival, but my hope is for my daughters and your daughters to know that it is not the sole responsibility of the woman to carry it all without complaint. And so I remind them over and over about masculine and feminine roles, and how child-bearing puts women in a biologically vulnerable position, thus the inclusion of a strong, responsible and committed man to erase the need for the woman to play the man by proxy. As for your family, I would make your position clear that you don’t believe this to be the ideal for any mother, and to refrain for giving props for being so “strong” in front of your kids, for fear they will internalize those comments and carry it on.

But that’s just me. What do you guys think?

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Violets Mommy 43 pts

I am a single mom.  I am only strong for my daughter, and I like it that way. This Mythology of  a strong black woman is what it is; pure myth. I say that because I get upset, my daughter has seen me cry, and I am quick to tell her I love her and hug her. Unlike my mother who was strong, and never stopped to smell the roses, or hugged us or even told us she loved us. It was hard for her, she was struggling but you still have to show you are human. Believe me I am DYING for a man to take the lead here, I don't want to be the divorced single mom  for the rest of my life, nor do I want to grow a shell so tough that no one can come in.  I do get a break, (not often) but I do, and I love hanging with my daughter and being with her. I do think people get confused with strong, and having the  "I can do it all by myself mentality", which is not true you can't do it all by yourself.

candielady357 84 pts

Find a good therapist, preferably a woman of color who will help you develop a plan to learn to take care of YOU first, because you cant take care of your kids if you don't take care of yourself. Then consider learning the art of meditation to help you achieve the balance and focus needed for your journey, and to give you that much-needed mental break from "holding it down'. Strength means a multitude of things and will not work if things are out of balance, no matter how hard you work.

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

“How Do I Sack the ‘Strong Black Woman’ Role?"

Short answer. Sometimes you can't.

Sometime it about putting one foot in front of the other and getting it done, fall out to sleep for a few hours, get up.... rinse and repeat. Sometime life is that way and yeah it sucks.

That said family and friends like to give a you the "Oh your a strong black woman head pat." Platitudes are easier to give than a helping hand which is a fancy way of saying talk is cheap. Family and friend have their own stuff to deal with so they are not going to voluntarily take on some of yours. Especially if you are indeed holding together. Nope they will just look over at you and say "Damn girl you got it going on." not asking for the details about how you do it.

Funny thing is if you crack up the Cavalry would have to come in to save the day. They would complain but they would be there. We have all seen the other chick who seems to be able to work the system and have everyone and their nanny do everything for them.

So the trick is getting them in sooner as opposed to later when you are walking sideways talking to yourself. Sometimes it is a simple as asking , sometimes all it takes is taking advantage of situations to lighten your load as they present themselves.

Jay from Philly 665 pts

"Funny thing is if you crack up the Cavalry would have to come in to save the day. They would complain but they would be there. We have all seen the other chick who seems to be able to work the system and have everyone and their nanny do everything for them."

You never lie. This happened in my family, someone who was constantly getting bailed out again and again while Jay--who sucks it up and keeps on keepin' on gets ignored.

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

Jay from Philly "You never lie. This happened in my family, someone who was constantly getting bailed out again and again while Jay--who sucks it up and keeps on keepin' on gets ignored."

I have been there also that's how I know. I will be honest I am not feeling to kindly towards the weakling and the people who enabled the behavior. The weakling's support system is now breaking down and guess who they are looking at to fill that role. Not. Gonna. Happen.

Jay from Philly 665 pts

People who constantly need to help, always "not feeling well", can't do anything on their own---that's a drag. You just get over it after a while. And yes, I saw that in the future I would have to be the caretaker. Not happenin' with me either.

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

Jay from Philly Good for you. Don't get hung up. Take care of Mrs. Jay from Philly and that family you're building. That is really all you have to do.

SirLoinDeBeef 572 pts

Brenda55Jay from Philly And I, as hubby, agree ... and I, too, have her back on this issue.

RhondaJSmith 8 pts

Chris, I think you gave a well-balanced answer. I believe women are labeled strong black woman when they have do have to handle business all alone in order to survive. The problem comes when we think we shouldn't ask for help and end up suffering in silence. I'm glad your FB friend reached out to you.

Karla 2844 pts

I really wish people would stop making simple words have bad connotations; I mean, in this day and age to say "liberal" or "conservative" is like spitting out the F word. We can make "strong" be whatever we want it to be; that's what empowerment means. To avoid or dislike the word "strong" implies weakness and I don't think any of us are weak. Strength comes in many forms and it's not just physical. Being married requires strength. Getting an education requires strength. Raising children requires strength. Standing up for convictions like NWNW requires strength. True strength requires character, integrity, discipline and, if one really wants to make it work, excellent allies/friends/family. Independence doesn't mean isolation. Independence, IMO, is freedom to choose, to be the best one can be and to live a good life regardless of what others think one should do. There is nothing wrong with being strong and independent. I just think, for BW, it has been bastardized into a not-so-flattering, erroneous stereotype of the loud, crude, bossy, emasculating, broke-back, hee-hawing mammy but we don't have to accept it. In fact, I have long since chosen not to accept it. But I won't reject "strong" and "independent" because others think of these words as being epithets. The great part is that I'm empowered to make that choice. I can be a lady with culture, refinement and intelligence and still be strong.

Mocha Z 1791 pts

Karla What Karla said!

Life, not just the life of black women, is not always easy. I have had a few white girlfriends that have gotten divorced with 2-3 children and they had to be strong. Thankfully they are for their and their kids sake! They have all the characteristics Karla mentioned above and have not just survived but enjoy life!

Now that I am faced with the same situation, I know that being strong is going to help me move forward and not just survive but, thrive. I am where I am and you know what? I want it to be amazing! That's why I started seeking to heal right away. That is why I sought out positive places and people. Why I am on BBW. The only way for that to happen is to be strong. I embrace that and hopefully you can too. I know the chalkboard sound that phrase has to a lot of bw but, it isn't bad unless used to minimize something that shouldn't be. That is when I rebuke the word and let the fam know.....nope, I deserve more...take that elsewhere because I don't subscribe to bc misogyny.

mspbody 78 pts

I don't think that the "Strong Black Woman" perception is necessarily bad. Is that the mindset you really mean to eschew? Being smart, driven, focused, capable....none of that is negative. Being regarded as "Mammy" or a "Mule"...not so much. My man loves me because I handle my business. I have been married (and divorced) twice. For numerous reasons, including some that were my fault, those relationships did not last. I have 4 children, and I give to them tirelessly. I don't miss anything they do unless there is no alternative. I have a wonderful man who loves me so much that he schedules spa days for me, because he knows I need some time to regenerate. I have my life together and I do not have the time nor the inclination to entertain other folks nonsense.You shouldn't either.

Being strong does not mean you do not need a break. It does not mean that you do not need help. It does not mean that you WANT to do it all alone. Be strong because you are. Be thankful that you are capable to manage your home and your children. There is no shame in asking for help, either. If you do not have a family support system, then create one. I had to, and it can be done.

sparel 821 pts

mspbody yeah I don't get why people are trying to make it seem as being a strong black woman a bad thing. Now i'm not talking about the women who walks around with her dick in her hands no. When I see Michelle Obama I see a strong black woman. When I see Oprah I see a strong black woman. It's funny how people are trying to make it seem that something that comes natural to us is weak to them. I've talked to so many WHITE MEN who says "black women strength is one of the reason why they are attracted to us" First black women shun their hair, now we are shunning the strength we have within? I don't see the logic in that.

I do agree with you being STRONG does not mean you don't need help. Some of the most strongest people need help. Only the WEAK shy away from it. The WEAK never asked for it.

harleyq2 145 pts

Maybe it's just me or I am interpreting the meaning of strong and independent differently but I don't understand why women want to be the opposite? I have seen the weak and dependent (perhaps damsel in distress?) and life is not so good for that kind of a woman. Now, if these terms are in reference to women taking on both roles when a man is involved, then that's a different issue. That refers to "you dumb ass, you choose a lazy man, have kids with him, and now you have to live with the consequences" issue. Being independent and strong builds character and confidence, it allows a woman to be able to survive when needed. it does not mean that a woman is not able to rely on others and share burdens as well. This has nothing to do with male/female roles either. Villifying these traits are horrible! and not passing on these things is a disservice to women. At times, a woman does not always have people around her and she needs to learn to do things on her own as well as she needs to understand when it's time to share her burden.

Jamila 2824 pts

"As for your family, I would make your position clear that you don’t believe this to be the ideal for any mother, and to refrain for giving props for being so “strong” in front of your kids, for fear they will internalize those comments and carry it on."

That's all I would say; Chris pretty much nailed it.

harleyq2 145 pts

Jamila

I think it would be better for her to respond to her family with 'thanks for noticing that I am working hard to provide a better life for myself and my children. However, it is very hard and could I definitely use some more support' She can say the same thing to her kids as well. So they understand that this is what it means to survive when life gets difficult but it's nice to share the responsibility with someone else.

EvelynA 31 pts

I'm not a mother and barely have any wisdom at this age, but may I suggest a few ideas?

It might be easier to show to everyone that you're not the "mule" type, rather than say it or protest - hopefully that makes sense. As in, maybe you could take a look at examples of black women from the '30s, '40s, '50s (famous or not) for some inspiration on how to be the picture of "grace under fire". Maybe find someone whose style of carrying herself speaks to you personally, and emulate that. Watch movies from that time period, too, if you're interested.

Then you could practice little things like walking around with a smile, asking others for help (even if you don't need it and know how to handle it, it's good to depend on people on times), having an air of gratitude and confidence that you'll always be in the process and on the right track to getting what you need out of life and what you want. Also, it's so important for every woman to take time out for herself at least 1x a week and do something she loves by herself, just to make herself feel good.

Maybe this will get others to look at you and think "S is so amazing, she's like Wonder Woman!" (desirable AND capable) rather than "S is handling her business like a 'strong black woman'" (not so desirable and gives the impression that you're frazzled).

EvelynA 31 pts

Whoops, I meant "at times", not "on times"

Mocha Z 1791 pts

EvelynA Great suggestion! I practice this myself. Love classics so...

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 665 pts

Stop filling in and/or making excuses for men who are slacking on the job....EX: http://www.chicagodefender.com/article-7709-deborah-movement-to-tackle-city-violence.html

My latest conversation: haitiqu « Black Women Deserve Better™

NATruthstudent 1100 pts

BlackWomenDeserveBetter

Maybe they can shame the "men" in their community into participating...

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

BlackWomenDeserveBetter

Marches are a total waste of time and effort for dealing with the ills of the Black underclass. They are a cry for help that is not coming. They are what you do when you don't know what else to do. They are cathartic and nothing more since the problems remain. I guess its something to pass the time while waiting for deliverance.

Jay from Philly 665 pts

Brenda55BlackWomenDeserveBetter I wonder if we'll ever see "I am Becky and I protect my community" march.

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

Jay from PhillyBlackWomenDeserveBetter

I have to stop here. I know that white women take it on the chin in blogs like this one, heck I admit to throwing that stuff out there myself but lets be fair.

White women do organize at the community level on up to make sure that their families have the best.

Jay from Philly 665 pts

Brenda55BlackWomenDeserveBetter I actually didn't mean it as an affront to white women. It would be implausible for conditions in a white neighborhood to deteriorate to where white women were holding marches against gun violence.

Mocha Z 1791 pts

Jay from PhillyBrenda55BlackWomenDeserveBetter My previous neighbors organized class parties, birthday parties, the time the three housekeepers would arrive, the pick up service for their husbands work suits, the play dates, the swim parties, the seasonal community events, the enrichment events for their families and their ward or church events. They marched to sell girl scout cookies. They marched to the orthodontists. They marched to lunch with their friends. There were mostly "marches" to enjoy life not to fight for it.

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

Jay from PhillyBlackWomenDeserveBetter I know you did not mean it that way.

Lili2009 1216 pts

Maybe S is already shaking the "superwoman" moniker by interrupting when her family starts in on how great she is for being a strong black woman. Try to express the idea that raising a child alone is NOT ideal in the least. This really shouldn't be the goal for any young women, IMHO.

EliseYMason 178 pts

This is kind've a sensitive issue for me since I grew up with a "strong black woman" - my mother HAD a committed man as the father of her children, she just didn't want him, she was strong enough to do it alone.

(women's lib does NOTHING for families IMO)

It's so important for children to know natural Male-Female roles,

I don't know if it matters if the "daddy" in their life is an older man from church or grandpa or the next door neighbor its SO important that there IS a good male role model in their lives.

*shushing*