Question of the Week: Do I Have to Erase All My Blackness to Date Rainbeaus Online?

Question of the Week: Do I Have to Erase All My Blackness to Date Rainbeaus Online?

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With all the hullabaloo, the Question of the Week was push back a bit, but I’m glad of it, because it gave me time in which to ponder and chew my cud. I’ll add my two shekels in bold brackets, and YOU add yours in the “Comments” section. Umkay? See…teamwork. There is no “I” in it.

Hi, I was wondering if you could ask the crew about tips on how to give the green light to rainbeaus online sites like (Okay Cupid) and (Plenty of Fish) where you can’t pick what groups you are open to. [No race filtering? Is that bad? My first thought is...no.]

I know this is stereotypical, but bare with me, lol…But physically I have the look that IR rainbeaus are supposed to be drawn to..slim, natural hair, and dark, which should give them a clue that I would be open to IR online. [Why would it? Is there a book called, "The Official Black Girl Clues and Secret Handshake Book for Snagging Rainbeaus?" But I will concede that yes; you sound like to type of girl I'm seeing booing up with all the white dudes in my neck of the woods.]

I’m also college educated and state on my profile many of the countries I have visited in Europe, Central America, and Africa. Other clues I try to give: musical interests (my favorite pop and rock groups and house music); some of the non-black tv shows, movies and books that I like. I state how I love learning about different cultures and I love food from different cultures as well. Heck, my screen name is in French. I even had a picture of me with one of my wm friends once. Plus, I’m on a majority (white) online site. [Stop there. Take down all pictures of you with ANY guy. Men are visual, and your potential prince wants to imagine himself standing next to you, not Random Dude. Replace him with a non-black girlfriend of yours.]

What other signs do you need that I’m open to IR? [I know this is still in the experimental stages, but I'm thinking a forehead tattoo that says "I Swirl" on it.]

Yet….I get 100s of views from IR men, but they won’t message me even after I view their page back. What gives? What are IR rainbeaus looking for on these online sites as the green light to message BW?? What other clues do you need? Do I have to change my screen name to idatewm? [Please gawd, no don't] Do I have to literally state in my page that I’m open to all? Someone suggested I remove all of my interests that are black/African related. [What the cuss? You are hereby commanded to take no further advice from this person.]I hope that’s not true. [GOOD NEWS! It's not even CLOSE to being true.]Though most of my interests can be considered “non-black” (like outdoor activities), I do have some black interests like African art, history, food, and watching Fresh Prince of Bel air. Are these interests turning them away?

Thanks.

-signed,

Can I find a rainbeau who likes me for me online?

[Chile...

Let me answer your question with a question. Would you be interested in a white guy who said he's a roadie for Lil Wayne, doesn't even know where Bel Air is, goes to Eddie Long's church, eats chitterlings every New Year's Day, and take hip hop classes in his spare time?

Well...]

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The letter writer brings up an interesting point of 'blackness' An articulate, feminine,sophisticated, intelligent BW is not a 'black' black women?

Ghetto culture does not equal blackness and any non-bm looking for that image from you, well politely tell him to go to h*ll.

When I heard the term rainbeau men I thought is was a cute and clever way for BW to express their interest in non-black men. I never saw it as offensive considering them meaning behind the root words. Rain can mean joy, rebirth or gift from God. Beau simply means a boyfriend or male admirer who is (in masculine terms) nice, pretty or good-looking. Then it is a play on words in connection to a natural rainbow. Rainbow are beautiful and can be enjoyed by all including Black women hence the play words.lol.

Now back on topic, I would just state plainly that you are interested in IR dating and continue to embrace your blackness however you choose to do so, because you don't want to come across as the female version of the self-hating Tiger Woods. He was so self-hating that he wouldn't even acknowledge is asian culture. How sad.

Ladies just be yourselves. What do YOU love to do? What makes YOU happy?
Pursue your interests then find like minded individuals to share your life.
The US is just too hung up on colour. The world is huge! There are 7 billion of us out here stop worrying about what these idiots on perverted dating sites think.
It make take more time than you are used to but just look for a friend and then your find your lover.

I have not read aall the other comments but I wanted to add my 2 cents from my own experience.
Focus on sites that are dedicated to your hobbies. What is your passion? Try to connect with people with the same interests.

Most of my friends have the same things in common regardless of ethnic backround. We love the same music, TV shows movies and books. My soulmate happened to be one of these friends I connected with. It takes times but be TRUE to yourself!
There is no such thing as "Black interests"...come on! You like what you like...period. And your man will accept you regardless. I still love African music and African-American comdey etc...so what. It's part of me too and he loves me. I can't stand his folk music either :p

There is no magic ratio on white/blackness your portfolio has to attract men of other races.

It is hard to tell why someone won't respond to your profile without actually seeing it. There could be twenty different reasons why someone won't respond, but I am willing to bet that the problem is that she is trying too hard. It can been seen as being desperate, too perfect, generic, forced, intimidating, fake or disingenuous.

I think she just needs to focus on being herself and make her profile reflect her personality. If you grew up from a white area and have mostly stereotypical white interest, you don’t need to hide it. If you have some stereotypical black interest, that is ok too. Don’t hide who you are.

I am a white male can pick up if someone is open to dating other races without them being too obvious. Instead of saying things like you enjoy eating food from different cultures, say you like Indian food, French cuisine or that mangoes are your favorite food. It doesn’t sound as forced and makes you more interesting and unique instead of boring and generic.

What's wrong with explicitly stating that she wants to date white men in the profile? I did that in an experimental profile and the messages came rolling in. A lot of white guys don't think black women are interested in them, so to see something overtly saying otherwise is a beam of hope for them AND gives them the further courage or chutzpah to go ahead and message you. It's an online profile-- don't be scared to state what you want. Life is short, don't waste more time.

I simply put on my profile that I was very open to an interracial relationship. Can't be more upfront than that. :)

Just a personal experience and a thought after reading through the comments:

When I did have online dating profiles, I found that I was harassed by BM when I was specific about being open to dating men of other races. As a result, I resorted to editing my profile in a similar fashion as your OP described in an effort to convey my openness without attracting trolls.

Can we PLEASE retire the ignorant notion that a woman who chooses to apply any chemical/technical process to her hair (relaxed, dyed, weaved, etc.) is "running away from her culture"? It's so mind-boggling-ly offensive to me that I'm likely to become unglued the next time someone says it. How dare anyone try to define anyone else by the way they choose to wear their hair? We are not all the same and don't share the same cultural backgrounds, so who gave anyone the right to judge?!!

As far as online dating is concerned, I found no one online that had any home training. They either showed their true "I just wanna do a black chick" colors right away or after spending time with them they proved themselves to be less than gentlemen. I had success in the real world joining a meetup.com group that shared my interests and meeting people organically.

I just wanted to add something further, I was driving earlier and thought of it. Myself personally, I prefer the Jill Scott, Erykah Badu, Lauryn Hill, all natural type of black woman. Someone who is not running from their culture but embracing it. The same way I am embracing aspects of my culture. I am one and of the spectrum and my significant other would be opposite. Yin and yang. Balance. We grow from one another while also embracing our differences. That has been one of the aspects of interracial dating that appeals to me and it is one of the things I am going to HIGHLY encourage within my mixed child. Embrace both sides of yourself. You will be stronger, more knowledgeable, diverse and well rounded because of it.
I tend to be less atrracted to the Lil Kim types who are wearing blonde hair and blue contacts and seemingly trying to make themselves look or be more caucasian. Ebbrace what you are ladies. Us white guys who are really into black women will love it. I promise.

Sorry, what I meant to say was that embracing both sides of my son's heritage is something I AM encouraging already. It is already in the process of happening.

Not everyone who doesn't wear the natural look is running from their culture. I wear weaves not blonde ones but I do add length extensions to my hair and I wear hazel contacts, that doesn't mean I don't embrace my heritage that is just personal preference. Does that make sense?

IF anyone is that judgmental......then I wouldn't want to talk to them.

Velour and I were having this discussion the other day.....and it makes me wonder...WHAT IS "blackness" really? what constitutes Black American(underline and bold American) culture?

I was watching a show last year where women were being coached on how to date. The women were interviewed and what they did not know was there was a room full of hot all american white guys observing them in another room with the intent to critique them. There were two black girls there. One of the black girls was a very suburban but very conservative girl. She was a nice girl. She had a very "white sounding" voice. The other girl was not really hood but she had a black name and was a little hipper and would probably would be considered "blacker". She hung out with white girls and had really good friends that were white but she did not try to be a "chocolate white girl". Both girls were cute.

Well anyway when the guys critiqued them. They said girl number one was too white and they wanted more of a real sister. They seemed to be irritated by the first girl. I think that they like our differences. I think they like our sassiness but not too much sass and definitely not drama. But I think that they like our blackness but they want to know that we have things in common and can relate. They just dont want NeNe or the basketball wives out there fighting!

I dated a couple of all American White guys and I am more like the second girl. I am articulate and have lots of different interests but I can relate to different types of people.

Black people are going (hopefully) through a metamorphosis right now anyway. Look at the way that we were dissed by Obama because we are such a "one pony show", we get taken for granted by the Dems. Then Herman Cain disses us in the same week by stating that we are "brain washed". The black race is going to have to come out of our box in a lot of different ways. I know that this is getting off the subject and sorry for the rant...

"Well anyway when the guys critiqued them. They said girl number one was too white and they wanted more of a real sister. They seemed to be irritated by the first girl. I think that they like our differences. I think they like our sassiness but not too much sass and definitely not drama. But I think that they like our blackness but they want to know that we have things in common and can relate. They just dont want NeNe or the basketball wives out there fighting!"

Those guys sound silly. Sorry, but what is a "real sister?" People are people, and maybe the the suburban girl was just that - suburban, like everyone else who grew up in the burbs. It sounded like they were expecting some "sass," as if that is a trait common to every black woman - regardless of her personality or her upbringing. This is what people call stereotyping. I guess the first girl did not pass the "black" litmus test and thus was basically accused of acting "white." *Rolls eyes*

Agreed, Robynne.
I stay far away from those types.
If I had to give one advice to WM, it's to look at BW as individuals but that really should go without saying.

Glad it's not just me boggling. TBH, the concept sounds...off.

True. Black girls say that they hear that from black girls mostly. I mean "acting white" but I have heard white people say that someone was acting white. In fact, I witnessed this white girl tell this black guy that he was the whitest black guy that she ever met. This was at a bar a few years ago after work. He went off on her. He lost it. All of our white coworkers were laughing about it behind his back for days. He was also the type that would throw other black coworkers under the bus but did not know that he was getting laughed at behind his back. He thought that the white guys at work considered him just one of the boys because of how he sounded and acted.

My best friend sounds "lily white" but you could never accuse her of trying to be white because she is one proud very black woman. She also dates white guys.

It was from that VHI show where the dark haired guys shows the women how to get and keep a man. I cant think of the name of the show but that was the group of girls from last year. Now he has another group of girls from Miami.

I agree. If those were the kinds of critiques the guys were giving about the "conservative" black girl, then they really do sound silly and ignorant to me. I'm black, but being "sassy" isn't really a natural part of my personality. I'm more of a quiet observer,INFP type, rather than "sassy" and outspoken, so they'd probably think that I wasn't a "real sister", either. Ignorant.
The way a lot of people define blackness is very limiting to black people. If a guy was going to like my "blackness" then he'd have to like the fact that I like a lot of things that aren't considered "black".

"I’m black, but being “sassy” isn’t really a natural part of my personality. I’m more of a quiet observer,INFP type, rather than “sassy” and outspoken, so they’d probably think that I wasn’t a “real sister”, either. Ignorant.
The way a lot of people define blackness is very limiting to black people. If a guy was going to like my “blackness” then he’d have to like the fact that I like a lot of things that aren’t considered “black”."

This pretty much describes me as well! It's not that I'm trying to be white or deny my blackness, it's simply just who I am!

I think her issue could be the type of websites she is on. Okcupid and Plentyoffish are both free sites. People sign up just to pass time and browse profiles, they may or may not be looking to engage in dating, just a random hookups. I think if men pay for memberships they might be less likely to look for the sake of looking

"Erase all the blackness"? Is that even possible? Even if you wanted to do it? LOL. Seems like crazy talk.

While it's true that the overwhelming majority of white guys that are open to dating a black woman are not interested in LaKeisha from the hood, it's been my personal experience that whatever cultural or experiential differences (large or small) we have as black women compared to white women, which is what a white man is generally exposed to when dating those white women, living with white women (mother, sisters), working with white women, going to school with white women, etc., is what works in our favor.

THAT'S RIGHT, IT IS AN ADVANTAGE AND WORKS IN OUR FAVOR.

Because we're different. We act different, we look different, etc. Yes, LaKeisha from the hood, agreed, that's too much difference, white men are not going to be queueing up to talk to her, but there are very few of us that are in that predicament. Most of us have a lot in common with any white American guy from a cultural and experiential perspective, and the differences are not massive. But what is subtly different about us is just like catnip to many, many of these guys, they're craving something different, something new when it comes to women, and no, I'm not talking about these dudes that are interested in sexual experimentation, I mean, they want someone different to talk to, to hang around with, to look at, to fall in love with, and to be happy to be with in their lives.

Viva la difference!

That's what I say. IMO, it's a huge mistake to try to be a dark white woman. Be an alluring black woman that has a lot in common with your intended, but has important differences between herself and the usual homogenized offerings he's getting in his usual dating scene.

Oops, "vive la difference". Getting my Spanish and French mixed up...

Remove all the 'blackness'... What the heck is 'blackness' anyway lol... Should I get my husband to remove his 'Whiteness'?

Anyway I never dated online so I can't really give you advice on this.. GL and stay classy and I'm sure you can find a good man!

We all know what blackness and whiteness is when it comes to society. She asked about removing certain things that would identify her as being interested in African-American culture. Is African-American culture not blackness? We all know what that means. Gospel, R&B, Soul music... Tyler Perry films, Steppin, Carter G. Woodson, things like that all are things that could possibly be considered blackness. Not by my definition, but by society's. Whiteness by society's standard seems to be interest in things like rock music among other things. We all know what blackness and whiteness is. Myself, I am your typical hard rocking white guy. Tattoos, Gothic culture, Heavy Metal, skateboarding, BMX biking... I fit into a certain sub-culture that is predominate amongst white people. Does that mean no black people get into these things? No, but those are considered things that are typically white guy stuff. Hope that clarifies, not that I think it was really needed anyway. The question you asked seemed more rhetorical than genuine.

Nkosazana is South African, not American. . .just wanted to mention that since you're new here.

I agree with Nkosazana. Just be yourself. I just write on my profile that I'm open to dating men regardless of race, birthplace or religion. Simple. Erasing blackness? Errrr that's ridiculous. I am who I am and if a dude doesn't like it, oh well. keep it moving. I had a white guy tell me we couldn't go out because I was "too white" for him. He said he liked chicks with ghetto accents, yaky weaves and Baby Phat jeans. What a douche.

I have often wondered about this also. Do I have a huge I date white too sign in the background. Or a picture of Brad Pitt with a heart around it? Is a filter good? To anyone that has looked online what do you do when a race you are not interested in messages you. Do you come right out and say I am only attracted to X men or do you politely turn them down or not respond?

Because I'm not a WM or any other type of man, I cannot speak about this subject with any expertise. I will say this, though. I've been married for almost 18 years to my husband (we dated for three years). We were way before internet dating so I met him the regular way. I was 35 when I married; by some estimations, I was very late. I'll admit that I had concerns about when I would meet Mr. Right (I used to tell my mother that my Mr. Right was in the Soviet Union wandering around looking for me; I know, showing my age) but it happened when I least expected it. My husband talked to his SWM posse and here is their take on what they're looking for:

1. They don't care that you're with another WM in a photo. If you're on the site, you're obviously looking. Also, it gives them the go-code that you are receptive to dating a WM.

2. Be yourself. My husband had never dated a BW; hadn't even thought about it. We met and started talking. He loved my sense of humor (very dry), my confidence and my intelligence. He thought it was cool that he likes jazz and R & B (which I loathe) and I have the musical tastes of a teenage White boy (I love me some Korn, Disturbed, Kings of Leon, Nickelback). He never felt upstaged when we went to visit my sister in Germany and I could speak both German and French fluently. He sees my talents as gifts that help him too.

3. Get yourself out to different events. When you do, chat up the WM that you meet. When I was single, I was invited to all kinds of parties. Most of my dates were made with guys I had chatted with while there. One guy told me he was attracted to my smile and my laughter.

4. Don't get desperate. Unfortunately, no matter how much you think you're hiding it, you don't. My husband's SWM posse said they can smell it a mile away.

5. I have nothing against internet meetings/dates/friendships. I've never done it but my friends have with mixed results. A couple of my friends met and married from the internet and are very happy. A few others, not so much and still others who say they would never do it again. I would say don't limit yourself to that. There are opportunities everywhere. You just have to be receptive and open, even in the most unexpected circumstance.

6. If you like to travel, do it often.

Again, I'm not saying this is the end-all, be-all formula for getting married but it's worth exploring.

Well if I remember rightly Chris and Eugenia met their husbands online. They seem like pretty good guys, and certainly not socially awkward or cheaters.

I've met weird socially awkward guys offline and amazing guys online,so I don't think you can stereotype. It's worthwhile remembering that online dating attracts such a wide variety of people that there could be any number of reasons for guys not contacting you. Maybe they think you live too far away. Maybe they think your interests would clash. Maybe you're too old/too young for them. And yes, maybe they are just not attracted to you. I know white girls and Asian girls that date online and they also complain of plenty of views and not much contact. Just be yourself and someone who is interested in you will get in contact. If they don't maybe that special person is waiting for you elsewhere.

I agree. You can meet creeps on or offline. But I think online dating should be kept in perspective. It's just one way to meet people you may not have otherwise met in your normal day to day interactions. But it's not the only way. I also agree with Deborrah (looking forward to the conv in SF!) that people should get out and meet face to face. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket and just be yourself.

To the letter writer, I would say, online meeting (which is what I call it) can be very discouraging. You can't let it get to you if someone doesn't "pick you". As others have said, keep doing your thing and the right one will come along.

Shakira, you're right I met my husband online and I also met creeps online, I met creep offline. They stay at home and they go out too. The thing about online dating and I don't think ppl should just be online dating, you should also be out and about, is that your probably going to meet more men online, you'll come in contact with more men. Way more than you would in 'real life' which means you may come in contact with more jerks, you may get rejected more but you also may reject more. I still don't get this thing where ppl seem to think it's okay to reject ppl but they never want to be rejected. Sometimes you will, just get over. The thing I learned about online dating is you have to be more direct with what you want and really clear about it, ambiguity only confuses ppl especially men and they just pass you over. Now you don't need to say 'I want a husband now' but stating preferences is a good thing, if you want to only rainbeau men, say that, if you want only white men, say that. When I said that in my ad that did not offend any men or turn them off, except for bm. And I didn't want them anyway. I don't know why everyone gets all skeeved up about saying I prefer to date wm, I state every preference in the world tall, short, employed, fit, etc. everything but if you say you only want to date wm or am or hm, everybody drops dead in their soup. Also you need to know what you want, so many women get online or out their real life and have no idea what kind of partner they want, they say stuff like I want someone nice or compassionate, what the hey does that mean all ppl think they are that, you need to be specific b/c unlike real life no one can see you flirt, no one can see your body language or eyes. It's a little bit of a different world online and yes not everyone is going to be successful that's why say get out their in real life and flirt and do all the other stuff, that way you cover the board. And it don't matter if it's a paid site or free one, I met my husband on Craigslist and I met a bunch of players on Match.com, paid does not mean quality it just means somebody paid. But you our writer needs criteria herself, all she needs to do is be herself and not be desperate, you can't be nobody but yourself anyway pretending won't last. I had a lot of guys answer my ad, not all of them did I conversate with b/c they weren't what I wanted, I asked ppl to do something in my ad if they didn't I didn't talk to them b/c not following an instruction to me equated to be rude, some guys had red flags popping up like toast I moved on past them, if you know how to vet you can save yourself your time and end up going on about as many dates as you normally would with potential serious suitors.

Also where is our writer from b/c swirling is sometimes easier in different places. I'm not saying it's impossible in places, it's not just easier in some than others.

I also talked about this in a blog from my Single Girl in a Weird World days, may be apropos for our ltr. writer.

http://singlegirlinaweirdworld.blogspot.com/2011/02/online-dating-its-jungle-in-there.html

No Chris, your ruling should still stand. These are three guys out of millions and the majority of men do not want to see a woman they are romantically interested in all hugged up with some other dude. So a woman should be smart and err on the side of caution, and that means if its YOUR profile, then have pictures up of YOU. Not your girlfriend (he might be more interested in her than you), not your children (too many perverts online).

This is simplistic and full of stereotypically BS that just serves to perpetuate the stereotypes we're trying to avoid. This is a guide to "dating" white men. My husband is Swedish (that means he's from Sweden and his skin is white), but I've dated Black men, white men, Mexican men, 1 Puerto Rican, and a few mutts. The point here is "just be yourself. You don't have to be less Black to date a white man. I've never met a group as obsesses with White folks, as Black folks. It's seen when you hear, "girl, that's what white girls do" or "that's for white folks." Get over them, relax yourself, live your life, love yourself, and the right man will come to you. And, a good man, if you're worthy.

I am not sure what the term rainbeau denotes, however I find it offensive. I am a white male. Plain and simple. I am not a catchphrase, so the first thing to catch my attention would be to refer to me by what I am and not a buzzword.
I take it we are talking about online sites. I am not on Plenty of Fish or Cupid or any other dating site, so I am not sure how they operate, however I would imagine that they have an About Me section, like most of the other social networking sites I have come across. Why not putting a small blurb about how you are interested in white men, Asian men, or whatever it is that you are looking for? This doesn't have to be complicated. It is just a simple paragraph blurb about what it is that you are looking for.
As to posting the things you think might draw a white man in such as groups that you like, etc. Just put the groups that you personally like. As a white male, I am not interested in the black woman who is trying to prove how white she is, or how in-tune with my culture she is. In fact, the reason I like black women is because they ARE different so pleeeease do not remove all of your black /African likes. I am seeking someone who can balance me, not offer me more of the same. Not that similarities are bad, it is just that trying to hard, it can come off as being contrived. I want the richness that diversity can offer, so please do not hide things that you may like just because they are black or African or what have you.
As a white male, I am telling you that having a picture of you with another white male is NOT a big deal and it IS a sign that hey, she might actually like white men. It let's us know that at least you may have spent some time around us and believe it or not, especially if it is just a picture of you and a guy sitting close but not too intimate, we do have the ability to critically think and realize that hey, this could just be a friend of hers or possibly a co-worker.
I think the most important thing is to just write a statement about what you are looking for in the About Me section. Not sure why people are not responding to you, but give it time. Maybe all these guys passing you up is a good thing because they may be guys only concerned in the superficial, easy action type of woman. Other than that, I have no other real advice. Don't refer to us as rainbeaus I guess would be one of them. That is like me referring to a black woman as our chocobunnies. It is not cool. It objectifies the party in question. The last bit of advice I have is this, not sure if it pertains EXACTLY to finding a man, but if you do get to chatting.... the biggest thing that has turned me away from black women is them telling me, "Well, I'm tired of black men. None of them are any good, all a bunch of thugs and lowlifes" or some similar sentiment.
That is a TOTAL turn off to me. That to me tells me that you are interracially dating because you cannot get what you want out of your own people, so instead white men become the default runners-up, so to speak. We want to be your first choice, not the back up plan, or the second option because you couldn't find a black man to treat you decently. That is not fair to us. I seek out a black woman because THAT IS WHAT I WANT. Not because I think white women are lousy, good for nothings. The attraction to black women is real, so anyhow... I hope my advice helped. Good luck in your search!

Rainbeau merely means a potential male partner who is of any contrasting ethnicity (White, Asian, Arab, African, Hispanic, Native, etc.) to the woman. Here at BB&W, that would be a non-AA man.

What he said.

Really? So...photo of white dude stays? Three as a consensus then my ruling is overturned.

I think it is an example of gender difference. When women see other women in a man's pictures, they worry about him being a player. When men see other men in a woman's picture, so long as it is not suggestive, they are reassured that she is out-going in a general way and not a female pack-member.

Yea, as long as it's just one photo,the picture isn't sexual, and maybe a caption saying he's just a friend, ... I'm assuming it's fine for the most part.

I HATE when men have pics with women (unless a sister or mom) in their profile photos. Hell I don't like other dudes in the photos. SOLO pics only ladies. I'm going with Chris on this.

4 for keeping pic with WM in it (all men) to 4 for dropping the pic (all women). Interesting, 100% correlation with gender.

Something strange about where our comments end up when placed on the top level (i.e., not a specific reply). They aren't always in chronological order.

I would recommend mentioning an openness to all ethnicities (or cultures), but don’t make a big deal of it. Stick to your actual interests. So long as both seemingly Black and seemingly non-Black interests are clearly there, no need to spin it. I agree with Smitty, and disagree with Chris, that one image of you with a WM, but not in a PDA, is likely to your advantage. Men know you are single, or you wouldn’t be there.

The lack of response is partly due to the great number of voyeurs on dating sites, and partly because for many men, you are out of their league. This is GOOD. Those men have self-vetted themselves out of your way so you don’t have to bother with them. :)

How can you admit you don't know what anything means, haven't seen it, haven't done it, don't know anything about it, but you are offended? WTF kind of sense does that make?

My take on it Chris is that Black women should not bother about online dating. It sucks. Losers are on those sites - guys that are socially awkward, wierd, have issues with women, sex hounds trying to get their freak on for free instead of hiring a hooker. All most of them are doing is cheating on their wives or girlfriends anyway. Those that are single have issues meeting women in real life, so they retreat to the Internet which is safer and easier.

I think Black women should get out of the house, go places where men are like sporting events, networking events, lectures, workshops, take lessons in tennis or golf, etc. Meet men in person so you can check out their body language, talk to them, get an idea of how he is before you spend too much time getting involved mentally and emotionally.

For the most part, I agree with this comment. I know of a woman (not myself, lol) who dated online and ALL of the men were Cuckoo!! I was like, "Go figure!". She is currently in a long term "friendship" (5+ years) with someone she met while going about her business on a normal day. I never tried online dating because I had confidence that I would eventually strike gold because I loved traveling. In the past, I met a lot of princes' that turned out to be toads instead offline. However, it isn't true in all cases.

It makes perfect sense. Deborrah, I am a white man, plain and simple. While you may think that catch phrase is cute, I don't. Call me by what I am, a white man. What if I started referring to all potentiall mates who are not white as "mudbeaus"? That would be offensive. Go right on ahead if it is working for you. How does your husband feel about that phrase? If he is cool with it, then go right on ahead sister.

Well, "mudbeau" has certain connotations that "rainbeau" doesn't. But I was under the impression that term is only used on this site/online and no one is referring to white men in person as "rainbeaus". I sure hope not...

@ Deborrah I agree with your sentiments re: online dating. I'm just not that interested in finding a guy to the point that I'll dig through lots of trash to find something decent. It's just not what I want to spend my time doing; I'd much rather meet someone at an event I'm already at and enjoying. I have a really good friend whose mother made her a profile on Match.com and the first guy she met turned out to be awesome and they have been together almost a year now. However, I think she's the exception. For everyone else I know who have online dated, it's been colossal wastes of time.

I'm not willing to play those odds.

@ Deborrah.

As a young BW interested in on-line dating, I was recently told the opposite. She said many black women are single b/c we are not utilizing the Internet tools other ppl. are using.

I ask simply b/c I have done all the following methods you mentioned above for years now with no luck at all.