Question of the Week: “Help 25-Year-Old Rainbeau Coming On Strong!!”

Question of the Week: “Help 25-Year-Old Rainbeau Coming On Strong!!”

“After hanging out a few times, things got pretty hot and heavy but I made
sure to tell him I wanted things to go slow but I don’t think he’s gotten
the memo.”

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Author : Christelyn Karazin

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Hello Mrs. Christelyn,

I hope you’ve had a great holiday and happy new year! So I’m pretty
much addicted to your blog and I think its AMAZING how you’ve managed to
provide a forum for a community of like-minded people to be able to freely
express their ideas, and provide advice on numerous topics. I know there
have been plenty of times where I’ve looked to your blog for insight and
advice on various things. Thank you for that :)

Anyway…I’m writing you because I’m wondering if you could help me out (or
possibly post this on your blog for others to comment on) with a
relationship question. I’ve never really been in a serious relationship,
I’m 20 years old and about to graduate college in May and there’s this
awesome guy that’s just kind of popped up in my life. I’ve only really been
talking to him for about 2 weeks. He’s this 25 year old student and we
attend the same school. He lives in the same building that I work at
on campus and I always thought he was the hottest guy but never thought he
was interested (dude was drippin serious swag..and had the sexiest body I
have ever seen, lol). We shared innocent conversations and smiled politely
at eachother but nothing serious. One day I’m working a late shift, its 2am
and I look crusty as all hell not expecting anyone to walk in. Lo and
behold, he comes in the building and I’m pretty much horrified…anyway we
smile and he goes on his way….next thing I know he comes down the
elevator and is like “I forgot something” and I ask if he needs a key or if
he’s locked out of his room and he gives me the slyest smile ever and goes
“Nah, I forgot your number”. I pretty much shat an imaginary brick…then
proceeded to him my number.

After hanging out a few times, things got pretty hot and heavy but I made
sure to tell him I wanted things to go slow but I don’t think he’s gotten
the memo. It’s winter break right now and we’re 6 hours away from
eachother. He sends me texts that seem a little too serious for someone
who’s only been talking someone else for merely 2 weeks (i.e calling me pet
names, telling me he’s crazy about me, etc.). I’m not one to be open with
my feelings like that especially if I don’t know you that well. Am I
overreacting? I’ve only really dated black and latino guys (*very briefly*)
near my age and they tend to be really indirect with a lot of things so I’m
not used to guys being so straightforward with me. I don’t know if its
because he’s older, or if its because he’s white, or maybe it’s because
he’s been in only long-term relationships…I guess I want to know what I
should do to show this guy I’m into him but not come off as insensitive if
I express the need to slow it down.

Thanks so much for your help!

Okay chica, here’s the skinny: Be VERY cautious to men who hurry the relationship or force an intimate connection too soon. Not saying it doesn’t happen (there’s a few guys on this board who have said they pretty much decided on their wives upon the first meeting), so I’m not advising that you dump him–just yet. However, what you describe sounds eerily similar to what I’ve learned about how commitment phobics operate. These guys are in love with the “idea” of love, and also thrive on a challenge. They’ll work to get you all twisted up and in love, and once you’re there, they flip the script. They start to back away, won’t call or text as much, start missing dates. You wonder why, how, what the hell happened, and so you start getting paranoid, calling more, chasing him down for an explanation as to why he’s not acting like himself. I highly recommend you pick up “Men Who Can’t Love: How to Recognize a Commitmentphobic Man Before He Breaks Your Heart.” by Steven Carter and Julia Sokol. Here’s what the author has to say:

In the beginning, the commitmentphobis is totally ardent and romantic. What a woman has to remember is that he is also totally unrealistic and has no practical sense of what he’s doing. All he can think about is getting you involved as quickly as possible. Because he isn’t thinking long-term, he has no reason to hold anything back. Whatever romantic words come into his mind, he says. Whatever he can do or say to make you want him and love him, he does. What a woman must do at the beginning is stay realistic and slow the  relationship down. At the beginning, you have a great deal of ego leverage and control. Use it to set the pace and tone that will lead to permanency. No matter how much you’re tempted to go along with his “Hollywood” style, don’t do it. …For the moment, he’s not concerned about the long-range consequences of what he says or does. He just wants you to respond. One of the most obvious ways to get you to respond is through sex. A man know that when a woman agrees to go to bed with him, it usually indicates a greater acceptance on her part. He wants that acceptance. Even though he is pushing for closeness, maintain your distance. Come to an evaluation of his character and emotional makeup based upon your own best instincts–not based upon what he tells you.

 

Anyone (especially the BB&W dudes) want to chime in on this one?

 

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rahom91 15 pts

***UPDATE***

Unfortunately this guy and I didn't work out. I wasn't mentally ready to dive into the physicalities of the relationship that he desired and I refused to give in. But its all good, I'm not stressing about it. There's someone for everyone :)

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Aabaakawad 483 pts moderator

Adante ,

I am one of the male members, and a moderator. This is not a wide open space. This blog has certain goals and principles we agree on, and are not up for debate here.. Some of these goals and principles are not supported within the communities some of us live in (both online and off-line), so this relatively safe place was built for like-minded individuals to interact. Your approval is not needed. There are numerous spaces which support your views, so you are not stifled. Go there.

The above comment will be deleted, but I am not going to ban you quite yet in case you get a clue.

My latest conversation: ForumPress

Adante 5 pts

All my previous comments deleted from this post - that's what you consider fair moderation? "If it is differing opinion that us we delete it."

Toni_M 4842 pts

eugeniamitchell @Adante Is there something non-pressing in your life where you would show up a couple of weeks later to whine about this?

It's not that deep, and it's kind of clear through your general behavior that this community is not for you. Why not save yourself the headache and move on?

Or at least if you are serious, read up on past discussion, what this site is about, etc. so you know how to interact?

Lurk more, talk less?

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Toni_M 4842 pts

PearlAdante He showed up, concerned trolled, was called on it, flailed and tried to dictate what should and should not be said/posted, was put in his place by mods (sent to the kid's table), and now is in here whining.

HOW LONG AGO DID THIS HAPPEN?

FFS, dude, put on your big boy pants and get over it. I've been banned before. And I was in the right. The moderator was a creep, but did I cry about it? Nope, I just moved on. It's really not that difficult.

WTF does "different opinion" really mean, dude? Because we fuss, disagree, call each other out REGULARLY. But we also know, associate, and communicate with each other enough to respect our differences, and agree to disagree.

Your malfunction is that you strolled into someone else's house, a stranger, and attempted to lay down how things should go. How we should talk. What advice we should and should not give. That dog is not gonna hunt in these parts.

And before you think it's because you're a man, you should know that (surprise) there are a number of male participants, readers, lurkers, etc. ...Or do you honestly think every person commenting on that previous thread was a woman? O_o

Perhaps you should lurk more and talk less until you understand the flow of the community rather than freak out as if you've been here longer than a hot minute.

Toni_M 4842 pts

PearlAdante If you scroll down a bit, You see a link where I called him out on his concern trolling. It was funny because we had JUST had a post about concern trolls posted a few hours earlier.

I thought the timing was funny. Funny, but not that deep. He took it absolutely personally and how dare we not let him spew his contradictory scare-tactical nonsense! FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

The mods gave him and his comments the heave-ho and a couple weeks later he's suddenly very pressed about it. O_o

Maybe he should read a book or something...

Toni_M 4842 pts

PearleugeniamitchellBrenda55Christelyn Actually, I'm just gonna notify a mod since I don't know if he was allowed back in or if he decided to come back and yell at us because he's got nothing else to do. :S

No sense in feeding him anymore. I had to comment though because this all popped up in my inbox just now, out of the blue and I was like, "...?"

Elaine_afromorena1985 39 pts

I actually with the advice given in the OP. Don't dump him just yet, but keep a VERY watchful eye. Don't have me pressure you into doing anything you don't want to do. Make it plain repeatedly that you believe in taking it slow (don't send mixed signals).

And what's with all the comments about this post being from a troll? Isn't this said about a lot of post on here when the man is painted in a negative light? I really wish some people realize that regardless of race, these men are MEN first. Not all men are the same, but *some* men of all races/cultures/etc are horn dogs, commitment-phobes, and etc. Hell, dating is super hard out here, especially in this day in age because it seems you have to weed through a lot more BS now. This is why expanding your options is SOOO crucial. However, just because you expand you options, it doesn't means dating will magically be all sunshine, rainbows, and cotton candy. It just means you will have better odds in finding a decent, compatible mate.

Mocha Z 1791 pts

Elaine_afromorena1985 "I really wish some people realize that regardless of race, these men are MEN first. Not all men are the same, but *some* men of all races/cultures/etc are horn dogs, commitment-phobes, and etc.

If you scroll down, the websites I posted about her possibly being tested by this guy was my main focus. I also gave her links to websites that talk about what to avoid because he just like any other guy is a man first. That is why I posted the links. The author is blunt and to the point about men, not just bm, but men and how they think.

It was that one other BWE member saw something very similar elsewhere that raised a brow. It's highly possible due to the nature of this blog, it's sworn enemies and the belief that someone recently may have sent a bogus troll letter. There was a question of authenticity by two people. There was also my admission of not being completely sure.Apologies followed.

As you probably know, there is an attempt to protect integrity and make this a "safe" place from the threatened derailing by GAT-DL. That had nothing to do with whether or not he is a horn dog since they can come in all colors and packages.

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Mocha Z 1791 pts

DeeDeeRussell The only thing is that she showed up here and seemed to take heed and appears to be of sound mind. I dunno

Mocha Z 1791 pts

DeeDeeRussell Hmmm...someone attempting to make the wm look like a horndog to discourage other young bw from swirling. Yup, this seems very trollish. To have two IRR blogs covering nearly the same question at nearly the same time seems suspect.

Christelyn 3210 pts moderator

I don't know, it sounds similar but I don't think it's the same. In the original email she gave me ALL her contact information...so I doubt she's trolling. DeeDeeRussell

rahom91 15 pts

DeeDeeRussellMocha Z Hi, I wrote the email above...and yes I do agree it does sound similar but there are definite discrepancies which I am not going waste my time going through. I'm a little offended that you think I would troll, but whatever, it cool, your opinion.....

I honestly sent this question in because I was worried about my feelings getting hurt and hurting his. I care about this guy and I want things to work out for the best. And if he doesn't want to take it slow with me then I'll have to end it. LOL and yeaa...I have NOTHING against white guys (I've had a preference for them for a loooooong time, thus why I've emailed Christelyn about my prob with this dude bc I wasn't sure about what to do).

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

rahom91

Glad you came back. How is everything going? Inquiring minds what to know.

rahom91 15 pts

Brenda55 Hi! Hm..Well, he's still kind of laying it thick...but I have been good at keeping the conversation away from anything "lovey" and steering it more at a "friendzone" type of thing. He's slowly getting it but I still need to have that face-to-face conversation with him. Even though he is kinda all out there I really do like the kid...so I don't want to cut him off just yet.

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

rahom91 Thanks for responding. You have a plan and that's great. Call us if you need us.

Mocha Z 1791 pts

rahom91 DeeDeeRussell Christelyn Accept my apologies for questioning the validity of the question. I did say that it was suspect but also mentioned that you responded on here and seemed to be seeking/heading advice by responding in a follow up post and seeming normal(not a troll).

There was nothing wrong with your question or seeking advice. The real trolls could easily show up with the same question posed on several different sites and that is a problem.

If you have followed this blog for a short while, you may notice that there is a need for caution. A few blog entries back, there is one such situation tgat it may have been a set up.

I initially responded with links to give dating perspective fully believing this to be a genuine request.

I hope all the responses were helpful.

Bunny77 1024 pts

Hi Rahom91. Honestly, I'm rather concerned about this statement...

I honestly sent this question in because I was worried about my feelings getting hurt and hurting his. I care about this guy

Why do you care about this guy? Let's see, you've been talking to him for only two weeks and you've "hung out" a few times. What does that mean? Have you been on any type of actual date (hey, it can be Buffalo Wild Wings, Chili's, Friday's whatever... ) just something where you actually are away from his or your apartment. He hasn't declared any intentions toward you (and it is early for that anyway) and only seems to show an interest in showing off his "swag," getting hot and heavy with you and flirting.

What has he done so far to deserve you "caring about him" and being worried about hurting his feelings?

Look the thing with people asking for advice, as I've learned, is that ultimately, they're going to do what they want to do. Even if 99.9% of the people say, "do X," if they have it in their minds to "do Y," they'll do Y. So, I just hope that, before you make whatever decision you do, you figure out why you're so thirsty about this guy and why you've fallen so quickly for his "swag" and his efforts to get "hot and heavy" so quickly. And, most importantly, that you stop putting the concerns of men you barely know ahead of your own. Because really, you don't know this guy at all, but you've already determined that you "care" about him... sigh...

rahom91DeeDeeRussellMocha ZChristelyn

Bunny77 1024 pts

Sure thing. I totally understand that people get crushes and develop infatuations with guys, and I can see how this young woman got swept away by such a charmer... at the same time, when one starts stepping into the zone of "I care about him" and "I don't want to hurt his feelings" when he's done NOTHING to have earned that level of consideration yet (or ever), then ole girl has gone too far and needs to step waaaaay back!Best of luck to you Rahom91. DeeDeeRussell rahom91 Mocha Z Christelyn

Mocha Z 1791 pts

DeeDeeRussellBunny77rahom91Christelyn

Ditto on the 100%

Mocha Z 1791 pts

Bunny77DeeDeeRussellrahom91Christelyn RIGHT! That is exactly my sentiments. Protecting yourself by caring about yourself and not getting your feelings hurt should be the usual precautions of starting in something new. I just didn't hear that in those statements. Make him earn it , girl!

rahom91 15 pts

Bunny77DeeDeeRussellMocha ZChristelyn I can see your point. Lol @ "thirsty" ...when I said care..I meant it in a very diplomatic sense. I'm not a mean person and I don't want to hurt anyone regardless of how long I've known them. And like I said...I will tell him to back off and if doesn't work out then, meh..c'est la vie.

Bunny77 1024 pts

Well, I can understand not wanting to hurt someone... I'm not like that either. But if he doesn't respect your wishes, that shows that he doesn't actually care about you (in that diplomatic sense LOL). So I'm just saying that it sounds like you're already being considerate of his feelings and being respectful to him... but always put your own needs and feelings first!Oh, and thirsty... LOL... glad you could laugh at that. I can be a bit blunt sometimes... it's just as I was reading, it sounded like you had fallen REAL quick considering it had only been two weeks! I dunno, I guess after one dates a few guys and has been dating for a few years, you don't get all that impressed by some texts and a few pickup lines. But that's me. :)rahom91 DeeDeeRussell Mocha Z Christelyn

Nonya 127 pts

Eh, I don't see this as being symptomatic of anything deeper; just a typical 25 yr old horndog on pussy patrol (which come in all colours), trying to hit before target graduates and leaves his "coverage area". Notice how all your interactions are conveniently hidden and afterhours; no public dates. To his friends, GF (sure they're really done?) and those 1-2 other chicks he might be talking to on the low, you don't exist. So if you're not game, cut him off stat.

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Toni_M 4842 pts

Adante *cough*

http://www.beyondblackwhite.com/jamila-akil-beware-of-concern-trolls/

Patricia Kayden 543 pts

The Letter Writer should just be blunt and point out that she really would like to get to know him better and that while she likes him, he's moving a little too fast.

I gather that if they start to go out on some dates, she can figure out if this is someone who she wants to make a commitment to. Sounds like a smart young lady.

Bunny77 1024 pts

Everyone already said what I wanted to say... just slow waaaaaaaaaay down and see what happens. If he's genuine, he'll slow down as well. If he's just interested in a fling, he'll move on.

That was always the easiest way for me to figure out who was for real and who wasn't.

Veron 558 pts

Communicate! Don't be afraid to let him hear your voice, and what you think. I'm sure you were very sweet when you told him that you wanted to go slow, but sometimes, you have to cut down on the sugar a little bit to get your point across, especially when people are trying to push your boundaries.

Don't be afraid to be direct with him. Be calm, and tell him straight, "You're moving too fast. We've only been involved for 2 weeks, and I'd like to get to know you better before we jump to the next level." Remind him of what you like about him (even if it is just saying "You're freaking hot, man."), but also that you're sure there is so much more to him, if he'd just give you a chance to find out about it. Let him know your boundaries. Tell him that if he really wants to pursue a relationship with you, he'll honor them (this also means that you have to honor them too, and recognize when he's toeing the line).

I wouldn't write him off right away. Sometimes guys just get over-excited, and you have to talk them down. With social networking taking over, I swear people are forgetting how to socialize, and he really may just be oblivious (even though he sounds like he's big man on campus). However, if he catches an attitude because you're being straight with him, then booo, move on, he's not the real deal. If he runs away because you're being straight with him, thank him for doing you a favor and getting out of your hair. If he does turn out to be a jerk, don't take it hard. Sure he's pretty to look at, but pretty isn't worth the trouble he'd give you. Remember that you'll always have you to love you in the meantime.

DeeDeeRussell 735 pts

Veron She should write him off right away, sorry.

Veron 558 pts

DeeDeeRussell Maybe so, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. Everyone is capable of change. Even if they choose not to make any changes, they still have the capacity to do so. I like giving people the opportunity to change their behavior once they've been made aware of their buttholery. It's only when they continue being buttholes, after being shown the buttholeness of their ways, that I say send them on their way.

If she has clear, straight forward communication with him, and he does nothing to regain her confidences, then by all means, he should be curbed. But if he hears her complaints, and then actually cools his jets and starts acting like he had a modicum of home training (for longer than a 24 hour period. For longer than a 24 day period), then I think he deserves, at least, a pat on the back and a "Nice try there, soldier", if not a date.

Monique8 412 pts

I pretty much agree with most of what the commentators have said here so far and I can't stress enough the importance of VETTING ALL MEN...white, black, pink, plue, red, yellow, polka dot, green. CHARACTER OVER COLOR, sweetie. always remember that. Watch what a man does NOT what he says. If you want a quick, no hassle "hit it, then quit it" type situation then by all means continue to engage this guy, but if you are looking for a more serious, long-term relationship then you need verbalize that and make that very clear to this guy now AND DON'T WAIVER from that position, no mater what he says or promises...just watch what he does. He'll either respect that and slow his role to prove he is worthy of you and take the time to really get to know you or he'll bounce, which would be his loss, right?

cns 115 pts

Simply put, he is a Player, player and please do not let him get a the Hello, Kitty. LOL.

Toni_M 4842 pts

What you described isn't just a trademark of commitment phobics; it's a trademark of abusers as well. Such persons can be extremely charming and lay it very thick early on...and then the tentacles come out.

Make your stance CLEAR, young lady. Do not back down or cave. It could be that this person is just smitten with you and means no harm. If he really wants to be with you longer than a hot minute, he'll respect your wishes and back off.

If he ignores your feelings, and even worse, starts criticizing and pressuring you, GET THE HECK AWAY FROM HIM PRONTO! No man is worth compromising yourself physically and mentally, or finding yourself in a situation that's a lot of worse than being dumped.

Jay from Philly 665 pts

Good Lord, this guy sounds like me at 25. And I WAS NOT READY TO SETTLE DOWN. Difference was I was around women who weren't ready to settle down and were quite happy about moving quickly. If she's not ready, she needs to slow things down. She should use the winter break as an excuse "We're too far away". Then went they go back she can start things at her pace. If she just wants to get swept up in the moment, okay, but that will be all it is--a moment. He'll get bored and move on to someone else.

Mocha Z 1791 pts

Meant to post the part two of the actual test. Here it is

http://survivingdating.com/the-ho-test-why-and-how-men-test-the-women-they-date-part-2

MadamCJCPA 726 pts

For guys like this I recommend my good old-fashioned "The Rules" book. You CAN take the upper-hand with this man or you can just pass on him, but it will take a lot of will power on your part to not break the rules. The goal is to get him to slow down to your speed without his realizing it; it just means making yourself a little LESS available to him (communication and date wise) unless he makes solid ADVANCE plans for a date of no LESS than 3 days prior notice (i.e. the ask by Wed. for a date on Sat. rule). I love, love, love, the rules as they are timeless even in the days of cell phone texting, e-mail, and Facebook.

con't below as I have exceeded my character limit. :-(

MadamCJCPA 726 pts

con't from above..............................

First thing first, keep all texts to a minimum of merely saying, "hello" and to ask, "how his day is going" but only if he texts you first. Which if he is as gung ho as you say, he will do. Then you conveniently follow-up with a "I'm in the middle of something TTYL (talk to you later), or call me later" and then do NOT respond via text, e-mail, Facebook, or phone until a time preferable three hours or so that is convenient for you. The idea is to relay to him that he doesn't and won't occupy every waking hour, minute, or second of your time as you are a busy and highly sought after desirable woman. <----This is the hardest part of being a Rules girl if you intend to weave them into your life, (I fully admit some of them a bit outdated, but fully adaptable to modernity) as men are used to women making themselves available to them at a last moments notice thanks to texting and Facebook. This is why I don't have a Facebook page as my name is NOT John Madden, I don't do play-by-plays.

glamdoll 496 pts

MadamCJCPA

Who's the author of The Rules? I have to read this book.

MadamCJCPA 726 pts

"The Rules" is written by Ellen Fein & Sherrie Schneider.

http://www.amazon.com/All-Rules-Time-tested-Secrets-Capturing/dp/0446618799/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325799533&sr=1-1

They also wrote, "The Rules II," "The Rules for Online Dating," and "The Rules for Marriage." I only have the original and the second "Rules" book.

Chyeahbella 48 pts

i think you should be friends first. No need to rush anything. I dont want to assume but I have a feeling he is rushing things because he is interested in a sexual relationship. I think you should have a talk with him about how you are not looking for that type of relationship nor are you ready to rush into a serious romantic relationship either. Once you guys talk it out you will get a better indication on what type of guy he is. If he agrees with taking things slow and respects your wishes, and continues a friendship based relationship then he is a good guy. If he starts to ignore you, or talks to you less, etc then he was only interested in one thing. Really evaulate how he treats you after you have a serious talk with him. Good luck!

rahom91 15 pts

Hello all,

I wrote the question above. Thank you so much for all the advice, you guys are great. We've been texting and calling and I've been distant lately, so I'm hoping he'll pick up the hint...BUT I'm *definitely* going to reiterate clearly that he needs to chill out and back off and if he doesn't , then pfft, bye.

Christelyn 3210 pts moderator

Smart girl. Keep us updated! rahom91

Law Wanxi 3323 pts

rahom91

Post more, lurk less. Keep us posted; we're worried.

glamdoll 496 pts

rahom91

He's moving way too fast. Continue to trust yourself and if he has a problem with that...buh bye. Too many women ignore their feelings and give in to guys, especially when they are spreading it on thick like he is....good luck!

rahom91 15 pts

glamdollChristelyn Law Wanxi I definitely will let you all know how it goes. thanks again :)))))))

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts moderator

glamdollrahom91 You're right that's what we have instincts for, follow them.

reem11 363 pts

Although he is taking things a bit too serious for you.Take it slow. Do not give into him (sexaully) If the guy really cares for you he will wait for you (sexually). If he does not care for you, then you will soon find out. He could be a player but players can be tamed if he cares for you. So take your time with your feelings and let him know how you feel about how fast he is taking the relationship and stick with what you have told him. And yes for a 20 year old, a 25 year old will have a little more experience but there is not that much difference in your ages.

That is if you do not mind the differences in your ages. I do not believe his color has anything to do with the way he presents himself. Players come in all colors as I am not saying this guy is a player. He can only be a player if you allow him to be one. Just do not give in as you have stated. It is too soon. If he is not the right guy, then you can move on without the heartbreak. Can be easy said than done sometimes. But protect your heart,mind and body its all you got. Btw congradulations on finishing college in May.

camjenks 18 pts

Wow as someone who is your age, and who has gone through what you have gone through already, (a few times as well) I can definitely relate. I've been through the exact same thing and got caught up in it, and got hurt. Please listen to what Chris and the other ladies are saying. They are speaking some serious truth. My advice: a) young white dudes are still young silly guys just like any race (even though i must say 20 and 25 can be a big difference emotionally etc., sometimes, not always), since beginning college every guy I've dated has been white, so believe me I know :) b) you gotta vet, you are never too young to start making sure you aren't being abused by emotionally unavailable available men. Sites like this and baggagereclaim have helped me start making better decisions (though it is definitely a work in progress) Doing this will save you a lot of heartache in the future, when you will be wanting to find mr. right c) Which brings me to our next point. We are young! I am 20 will be only 21 soon just like you. I have to remind myself that, I have time to explore, find a great guy, let's just live life. I think if we are smart about dating, (and follow tips our friends here are telling) the right guy will find us. :D

MadamCJCPA 726 pts

camjenks I met my boyfriend (now husband) at 21 yrs. old and after much chasing on his part (as I am a Rules girl that plays hard-to-get), he finally wore me down, and I decided after three months and a half months to try the commitment thing. A baker's dozen years later and we're still together with a 10 yr. old son and another due on tax day of this year (freaky I know).