Question of the Week: Why Am I Invisible To Rainbeaus??

Question of the Week: Why Am I Invisible To Rainbeaus??

Hello Cris.

I’m enjoying your blog.

I’m a little bit discouraged because I have a crush on this guy. We were out last night with some other people. [It wasn't a date. It was a group of us.] We have really good chemistry and so much in common. But when it comes to anything beyond friendship, it seems like he notices every Caucasian girl, in close proximity, regardless of whether or not she’s remotely attractive. It’s really discouraging. I read your blog and I do most of the things you suggest. I exercise, I take care of myself, I’m well read, etc. However, it feels like, romantically speaking, I’m
invisible because, simply put, I’m not white and that hurts.

Why is that Cris?

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Hello Cris.

I’m enjoying your blog.

I’m a little bit discouraged because I have a crush on this guy. We were out last night with some other people. [It wasn't a date. It was a group of us.] We have really good chemistry and so much in common. But when it comes to anything beyond friendship, it seems like he notices every Caucasian girl, in close proximity, regardless of whether or not she’s remotely attractive. It’s really discouraging. I read your blog and I do most of the things you suggest. I exercise, I take care of myself, I’m well read, etc. However, it feels like, romantically speaking, I’m
invisible because, simply put, I’m not white and that hurts.

Why is that Cris?

First off L, when I read your question, I have to admit it tugged at my heart. I’ve been Invisible Girl, crushing on a guy who told me in every which way except employing the use of homing pigeons, smoke signals and a big “I’M NOT THAT INTO YOU!” on a billboard on the northbound 14 Freeway. Invisibility happens to all of us sometime in life, but I think now’s a good time to explore why, exactly you’re feeling this way. So I brought in the big guns. My pal, Dr. Gilda Carle, psychologist, dating and relationships expert, Match.com columnist and author of 15 books, to weigh in on this.

“A person feels invisible because she [often] projects what she thinks of herself,” she said. What are your projecting? You’re not going to make anyone believe something you don’t believe yourself, no matter what color the guy is.”

In other words, you are what you believe you are. Dr. Carle suspects that many young girls fall victim to a sort of hero worship, in which a relationship is more fantasy than reality.

So…L…this may hurt a little, but you may be seriously misreading the chemistry between the two of you, because the good doc says that if the object of your affection is looking at every white piece of tail that comes his way hot or not, then he’s not really into you. In fact, this dude might just be an arsehole. Or a kitty hound. But probably both. My question to you is, why do you like a guy like that anyway? “If a man really wants you, he’ll do anything to make you his,” says Dr. Carle.  Me thinks you might need an attitude makeover, my dear.

Now if NOBODY notices you, you might want to look at what messages you’re sending out into the universe, says Dr. Carle. “In a case, for instance, of a girl being morbidly obese, I’d have to ask, what are you hiding behind that weight? Same thing if someone stands with their arms folded in front of them–you’re telling people you’re hiding; you’re not open.”

Bottom line: Seek men who are attainable and open to you. Stop setting yourself up for rejection so people feel sorry for you. Examine what you really feel about yourself. In this case, it’s really what you think that might make the most difference.

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Blanc2 123 pts

Word from a WM with a jones for BW. Every man has his own personal "flavor". Some like them tall and yellow; some like them short and brown (to quote Little Jimmy Rushing). For men, it's always physical. We like what we like. Fortunately, we don't all jones after the same flavor, because if we did we'd all be fighting over one woman.

If that seems frustrating and weird to women, rest assured that y'all seem frustrating and weird to us, too.

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Marcie 257 pts

Pearl Pierce Brosnan is James Bond! Piers Morgan is too egotistical for my liking!

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Marcie 257 pts

Pearl Ok Then, thank God for Google!

Marcie 257 pts

I had a conversation with a really sweet old man the other day. He said and I quote, all men have women in mind for one thing its the nether regions! This man has lived a long and fulfilling life. He has had his heart broken by his ex wife and others.He probably knows what he is talking about. He also said there are plenty of fishes in the sea. I just take everything he said with a pinch of salt because I am getting one of many perspective of how men think. The good the bad and the ugly.
What exactly does this lady want us to do for her?

Marcie 257 pts

Continued....
She said:
However, it feels like, romantically speaking, I’m
invisible because, simply put, I’m not white and that hurts.
Ok who told you you are an oreo? Yes you are black on the outside but have the manerisms of a cultured. well educated and aspiring white person....is it?
You mix with the right crowd and you have romantic yearning for a white guy.
You stated you have chemistry and have so much in common. Why cant he see you apart from your colour? Is that what you are saying?

Marcie 257 pts

continued......
You know what......do you want to be Princess Becky for a day. Ok lets make her wish come true. Be careful what you wish for, it just might happen!
Why dont you work on your self esteem. Love your self for who you are. Yes you like this white guy but why force him to like you when obviously he is not into you. Did you ask him who he really likes to form a romantic relationship? Obviously he loves him some vanilla not chocolate.
Also are you too scared to let your feelings show and tell him how you feel. Yet you said you have chemistry and has loads in common. What fanciful planet are you living in? Are you making a story in your mind of you and him. Okay stop the BS right now and come back to reality. Earth to Princess L you there? The poor guy might just be oblivious to your feelings for him. He may have a good rapport with you but not truly sexually attracted or have that sort of chemistry for you,
So mix and mingle with the fishes in the sea because if you put all your eggs in one basket you may be completely and utterly hurt by this guy. Or even worst used.

Marcie 257 pts

BTW.....I have romantic feelings for Pierce Brosnan...but guess what he likes vanilla. LOL

DidiO 294 pts

Actually I do have a question or three.

Why do you feel you both have 'great chemistry?'

What do you have in common?

What in heaven's name do you mean by 'I'm not white and it hurts'?

For real??

DidiO 294 pts

Lots of sound advice here, nothing to add

BUT

where on earth does Chris get the images she uses- i remember one that had turd, lol!

Now the invisible woman, great stuff..:)

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

DidiO re: the images!! they're the best!! LOL!

SurlySammy 138 pts

So the feelings aren't mutual and she's...poor infatuated chicky. I don't know. If I had a pocketful of miracles for her then...no, wouldn't necessarily work. Forget it. Anyhow, yeah, honestly need more data. Account too sketchy. Wish I was there, like the proverbial "fly on the wall" to buzz around and catch more (frm dif angles, know what I mean?) than what she's supposedly talking about here. So many factors, variables that figure in to make for mutually ramantic attraction, esp. for deep and lasting relationships, more so than ever nowadays it appears (*exhale* Oh my Gosh!). Lot's of times we folks tend to skip important considerations in speaking our tale of woe, usually in a manner that puts us in the the best possible light & the other party under a cloud (Human nature, naturally, so I don't mean to be rocking the boat here guys and dolls but let's face the facts of life about our tendencies and well...us as people)

SurlySammy 138 pts

So after you get a lil suspicious & do some gum-shoeing around to get in on the the real dope (clarifying info), you're like, "uh, dude (or now Gurl!) you didn't mention THIS and at least a little of that!" which afterwards will give a whole new meaning to the matter moaned and wailed about. But say this is on the level and if she's well-read (meaning gainfully informed, I reckon) and taking care of business, as claimed, then she shoudn't ...hmm, then again As Maximilien said to Valentine in Dumas' "The Count of Montecristo"

"....passion can blind even those who are ordinarily the most clear-headed"

EclecticPearl 29 pts

From her letter, it sounds like it's one particular guy, rather than various men. So you may be focusing too much on one man and not putting yourself out there and explore other choices. This one guy is not a representation of all men, so pick yourself up and go mingle. You might miss out on a better guy and a great relationship if you're too busy feeling down over this one dude.

It also sounds like you may want to work on your self esteem. You can exercise, eat healthy and look great on the outside all day but if your self esteem is low, you're going to encounter problems with different people, especially when it comes to dating. If the guy is only into white women, so what? There plenty of other men available. Plus it's his loss, right?

Toni_M 4842 pts

And if she's asking why is she hurt and wishing she was white, it's obvious because she's internalized a level of self-hatred that makes her believe that she would be more attractive and noticeable if she were a white woman. Even an ugly one.

These notions are poisonous falsehoods, and I hope more black women purge themselves of it. Not only are they harmful and self-defeating, but needless; there are men out there who will love and appreciate you regardless, and in some cases, the darker you are, the more beautiful you are to them. So drop that "if only I were a white girl" crap.

Toni_M 4842 pts

...Actually, I'm curious because after reading the letter, nowhere does it state the race of her ideal man. WE are assuming that he's not black. The letter reads like he is a black man. Especially where she keeps mentioning his fixation of white women, regardless of whether or not they are attractive, while completely ignoring her. He's either black or a non-white male, who is apparently seriously color struck.

After all, how unusual or "hurtful" is it for a white guy to be interested in white women? O_o Also, I find it hard to believe that white guys will genuinely not care about the attractiveness level of a woman, "so long as she's white". I hate to be mean about it, but white guys will at the very least shoot for something other than the dog kennel; this "as long as she's got white skin, looks don't matter", reads as colorist. And I doubt this person has her eyes set on a KKK member (?)

If this is genuine, I'm going to assume this woman is making eyes at some color-struck non-WM, in which case, she is better off looking elsewhere. You should be grateful for being invisible to this type of person, because if you are looking for true love and affection, things that are more than "skin deep", this does not sound like the type of man who could give it to you. You seem to be imagining him as perfect for you through a one-sided connection without taking the reality of his point of view and wants into consideration.

Rather than trying to cook up a "non-invisibility" potion, I'd recommend moving on to men who see you, ALL of you, and who clearly would like to be with you.

Toni_M 4842 pts

To be honest, I agree that regardless of whether or not the letter is not real, there is some sound advice for persons lurking who might actually need it.

As for the troll, he/she DID pop up in another post and I flagged their comments because they were ridiculous. I don't have to see the comments to know that it was more of the same in here.

I find it interesting that whenever we post a letter, these idiots show up in rare form, with all the gas and smoke and mirrors they can get their hands on to try and derail things or BS as many people as possible. I don't know about anyone else, but that looks like FEAR to me.

Bren82 200 pts

Take intitiative and ask him out. One of three things could happen: 1. He says no, 2. He says yes and he turns out to be worth it or 3. He says yes and after dating him, he turns out not to be worth it.

Brenda55 4388 pts

"But when it comes to anything beyond friendship, it seems like he notices every Caucasian girl, in close proximity, regardless of whether or not she’s remotely attractive."

MY dear. Take a deep breath and relax. The young man may not be into black women. He doesn't have to be. As they say the heart wants what the heart wants. We all have our preferences and I afraid dear you are not the one. Over the course of your life this is going to happen often. It happens to everyone. You can't have every one you dig. It never works like that.

Now the time you are spending obsessing over this guy you could be A.) spending on your self or B.) noticing some other guy or C.) not paying attention to some other guy who digs you.

"However, it feels like, romantically speaking, I’m invisible because, simply put, I’m not white and that hurts."

Has it ever occurred to you that even if you were white he would still not be into you? Guys like to look. You have no idea what he is thinking. Guys like to look and they do not have to look at you. Don't spend a lot of time trying to figure it out either. Move on.

You are hurt because you want him and you are not what he wants. This is not cool darling and you need to get your mind right because you are setting yourself for a life time of relationship pain. Bending and twisting and wishing to be what someone else wants is no way to live. It is also no way to find love. Women like that are tailor made for the dogs out there, the abusers, the users, jerks and the cads call them what ever you want. You are setting yourself up to get played. People can smell low self esteem a mile away. The creeps zero in on it and other just avoid you. Maybe this guy you like can smell it too.

You are the woman you are. Love you. Develop you. Maximize you. Be great. Everything else fall into place once you do that.

LemonCrush 12 pts

Okay, I think a lot of people may be assuming things here. I'm not sure of the details from the original poster, "L," but I think a few things need to be determined before people can so easily say what this girl should or shouldn't do. The original post just seems rather vague. I'm not sure if "L" has been back to comment or explain, but I do have a few questions for her:

1) How old are you? I think it makes a great deal of difference if you're 18 years old vs. being 35 years old, for example.

2) How long have you known this guy? Is this someone that you just met or have you known him for a significant amount of time?

3) You say you have a lot in common -- like what? Is it something as meaningless as your favorite color is blue and so is his? Or is it something a bit more meaningful like your philosophy on life?

4) I think this next question is an important one as far race is concerned -- You say you feel "invisible" whenever you're together. But the question is, how "visible" are you making yourself to him? I ask this because it seems like sometimes black women have a tendency to make it appear that they only like/date black men. Sometimes white men assume that anyway because of what mainly black society has told them over and over again. Think about it -- if you've only ever commented that you think guys like Denzel Washington, Shemar Moore, LL Cool J, Blair Underwood, Taye Diggs, Morris Chestnut, etc. are the finest thing around, then that may be part of the reason why you feel "invisible" around this dude.

5) How often do you all meet with your group of friends? Is there ever any time when you two are alone? If you two have so much in common, surely there's something you two can do without the group being an element.

6) You said he notices every white girl around. Really??? Is it truly every white girl or is it just some white girls? I ask because if he's noticing "every" white girl, or every girl regardless of color, is this guy just simply a wh0re? If that's the case, you're much better off just being friends. The last thing you want to do is ruin this friendship with what you want to be something meaningful, only for him to find out you're interested, sleep with you, and then never call you again. I mean, honestly, who wants to be with that kind of guy anyway?

In any event, good luck to you, "L." I hope things somehow work out for you.

Jamila 2824 pts

Perhaps this letter is a farce and perhaps it isn't, but for now I'll treat it as if the writer is being serious..

"However, it feels like, romantically speaking, I’m invisible because, simply put, I’m not white and that hurts."

That line reminds me of the book "The Bluest Eye" by Toni Morrison.If you haven't read the book, you should.

The Bluest Eye is about a very dark skinned little black girl who feels that if she were white and had beautiful blue eyes the whole world would love her. I think the book gives a lot of insight into the way many darker skinned black women feel who don't fit the mold of what this society considers the standard kind of beauty.

Clearly the writer of this email has some self-esteem issues but she is also probably very young (teenager or early 20's). When you're that young it's really easy to catch a case of the one-itis, i.e,. if that one guy doesn't like you like you like him then the whole world must be ending and you become so fixated on that one person that you lose perspective on the situation. I can remember when I was younger and would obsess over some guy if he didn't like me the way that I liked him. I used to hate on girls with big butts 'cause I did not get the black girl booty! lol But I grew into my looks and accepted the 'big booty girl' look was not my thing and that the 'model chick' was really who I was. So I began to put myself in front of guys who liked my long, slender, athletic and tall shape.

I think this girl need to grow into and learn to accept her own unique beauty as a black women. No amount of working out and reading books is going to make you less black and until you accept who you are and your unique attributes, your self-esteem is going to be low no matter how much you hit the gym.

Bottom line: this particular guy isn't feeling her and she just needs to accept that and move on.

DidiO 294 pts

Jamila

I agree. You MUST love yourself 100%

AvaRay 163 pts

With all due respect Christelyn, I am suprised that you posted this letter :)

Christelyn 3210 pts moderator

Really? Why is that? AvaRay

Mocha Z 1795 pts

Wanted to share this with the writer... good article for married or single women

http://www.divinecaroline.com/22065/35337-wants

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts

Mocha Z I just saw that another site, good letter. I give it the full thumbs up.

Christelyn 3210 pts moderator

Okay E, you're officially deputized--you're a site moderator. Now I can sleep easy tonight! eugeniamitchell Mocha Z

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts moderator

Christelyn Mocha Z Please give me details on how I do this, LOL. You can tell me on FB. Just the basics.

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

i gotta ask: Is the initial letter 100% fer realz? this isn't a trollicious set-up? no?

Christelyn 3210 pts moderator

You know...hmm... ForestElfQueen

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

Christelyn LOLz ...if she was in like 8th or 9th grade i could see it but, i dunno.<shrug>

Mocha Z 1795 pts

ForestElfQueenChristelyn 11 or 12....I haven't met a 8th or 9th grade black girl that simplistic.

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts

Christelyn ForestElfQueen You know they're getting more sophisticated with ways to infiltrate I wouldn't put it past these trolls. They are out to get you, you're not being paranoid.

Christelyn 3210 pts moderator

But for what purpose? What do they hope to achieve? The horse has left the barn, they don't scare me, and I have the resources to lock this blog down with so much security to make their heads spin. They are not dealing with a dummy. eugeniamitchell ForestElfQueen

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts moderator

Christelyn ForestElfQueen Well if their mentally unstable and in my opinion they are, it don't matter. Something about you and your movement is causing them great personal trauma and pain and they want to shut you up or rile you up. I was doing a NPD article this week but since it's so close to the holidays and I really want to just feel joy and peace and not talk about craziness or crazy ppl I put it off till first of next year. But if it's how I think it is, they want acknowledgment whether it's good or bad, because whether it's good or bad it's good for them. it's weird but that's how it is.

Karla 2845 pts

Christelyn I think you are making a difference and someone is running very scared. Whenever someone challenges the old, tired traditions and gets a strong support base, those who oppose that person get desperate. The purpose was to show the others in that camp that they could disrupt you very easily. That's only if this was done by an adult (and a very stupid adult at that). If it was done by a kid, then I think the purpose was to hack in and disrupt for fun.

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts moderator

Christelyn ForestElfQueen My thought is they were so angry and so over the top, this won't be the last time we'll see them.

Mocha Z 1795 pts

ForestElfQueen I gotta say....the way it reads....I was a little thrown off by the idea that they "aren't white and it hurts". I don't know many bw that would say that. Maybe a teen but bw don't usually make statements like that. I don't know if a teen....maybe an 12 year old max.

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts

Mocha ZForestElfQueen The troll moved in fast like first or second comment was from the troll.

reem11 363 pts

ForestElfQueenI was wondering the same thing.

Mocha Z 1795 pts

ForestElfQueen Genius girl! Lol, I guess I was trying to be nice and consider the feelings she had and not call out the childishness of her wording. Someone even mentioned giving her a break on that.

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

Mocha Z exactly..something about it feels off, IMO.

Karla 2845 pts

ForestElfQueen I'm leaning towards the "childish letter/troll" connection, now that you mentioned it. Even the insults were those of a psychotic child, almost akin to calling someone a "doodoo head" or something of that nature. The fact that the attacks were personal, rash and very juvenile suggest an effed up kid trying to get the last word.

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

Karla totally!! je crois que t'as raison!

Karla 2845 pts

ForestElfQueen Et vous aussi...

eugeniamitchell 3484 pts

KarlaForestElfQueen They kept coming back under different username a couple of them, then Chris would catch them and delete them quick as they came back the insults go more juvenile and abusive.

Christelyn 3210 pts moderator

Even if the initial letter is a farce, I think the advice is sound. I publish QOTW based on whether the message needs to reach the lurking audience. ForestElfQueen

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

Christelyn "Even if the initial letter is a farce, I think the advice is sound. I publish QOTW based on whether the message needs to reach the lurking audience."

true. it's also cool because that's the usual thing i've heard/ seen said on hateful youtube vlog & blogs etc.... that non-AA guys just aren't into AA/mixed women.

....the whole "Ain't nobodee else gon' wantchoo" trick. haha! so in the end it's all good, faux or no.

Jazmine 178 pts

ForestElfQueen Ok so it wasn't just me thinking that. I had to read the letter twice because I felt like something was missing. I just gave it the benefit of the doubt. But in my mind I was thinking, "ffs, why don't you just ask him!Them things got chaotic...so I lsigned out.