Video: Black Man Offers Apology to Black Women

Video: Black Man Offers Apology to Black Women

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Someone from the BB&W Crew passed this little montage to me because, well, I’m in the video. Don’t ask me how; I never knew it existed. You can see me and my writing partner, Janice Roshalle Littlejohn at around 7:04.

First off, I TOTALLY appreciate this gesture. However (COMMA) there’s a major problem. Well, two major  problems. One, he is in no position to apologize on behalf of an entire race of men, just like back a few threads when the black woman offered an apology, it simply has no teeth. I appreciate the singular gesture, and he comes from a good place, but “sorry” is just an empty word if things continue like they did yesterday, the day before, and the decade before.

Second, this man apologizes for “dating outside the race.” Do I need to elaborate? No apology is needed, my man. Love who you love. I know I do.

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dorothy56 7 pts

Christelyn Do you know I just saw a video of a blk guy who wanted other blk men and women to look at the tape about the blk woman who said blk women need to apologized to the blk man.. but only to put down another blk woman who disagreed with that notion. In one breathe saying blk men need to stop vetting and speaking negatively against blk women and stop putting all blk women in the same category and in another... whatever. I am tired of YOUTUBE...already! in my REAL LIFE..within the building I live in NYC... there is not even so much hateful and bitterness going on.

dorothy56 7 pts

Christelyn LMAO!! A person would have thought with all the chaos going on in the world that these blk guys would fine something else productive to do with their@@@@##( I cleaned up it for you) lives.That's some childish mess to do... very narcisstic.

dorothy56 7 pts

Christelyn Is it just me or have there been some psychotic, religious blk guys on youtube messing with you...also.. Sis? LOL. I mean... there are vivicous trolls who are harassing blk women as myself.. who are interested in interracial dating and marriage.. trying to use the Bible as a whipping tool and saying nasty, guttering things to blk women. And know that is not of the CREATOR... believe me I gave them something to think about when I replied back to them. And I did blocked them from youtube webpage and inbox.

Christelyn 3210 pts moderator

Yes! I've noticed it...Krazay with a K. dorothy56

dorothy56 7 pts

Pearl Hi SIS! Yeah... sometimes my brain needs an extra boost of caffeine to wake up. It's like my whole body is awoke... while the brain is still half asleep in the early hrs of the morning. go figure. LOL!

AIO 454 pts

I am really having a great deal of trouble understanding the objections to this video.

Joyce345 910 pts

AIO

After reading through the comments, these some of the objections:

- This is just one man. He cannot apologize on behalf of all black or AA men.

- Those are just words. When a man means to do something, he actually does it. He does not only talk about it.

- A section of bw have already moved on so it makes no difference to them.

- Nobody needs to apologize for dating outside the race.

- BM need to sort out their issues not for the benefit of black women, but FOR THEMSELVES.

- BM need to believe in themselves first. That way they can compete with other men for power and status instead of competing with black women.

Patricia Kayden 543 pts

I am altogether too lazy and uninterested to actually watch this video. All I can say is that one Black man has no need to "apologize" for big grown up men over whom he has no control.

Happy New Year Y'ALL.

dorothy56 7 pts

I have one thing to say... I feel that some blk guys just don't get it ... blk women are moving on to better lives for themselves and don't need or want to be dictated about their past mistakes. ect. case close.

keeks Y 128 pts

black men apologizing is neither here nor there with me. That ship as already sailed, long gone and never to be seen again.

AIO 454 pts

keeks Y

But it will keep being an issue as long as Black girls continue to be born and be abused/mistreated by Black men and indoctrinated to be self-sacrificing/self-hating mules on their behalf.

SurlySammy 138 pts

So Christlyn you feel overall that this vid (due to it's potentially manipulative content) presented in glittering gold foil is a wily work whom those responsible will blithely assume that Black women watchers are going to swallow and be satisfied.

(Like a cubix zirconia put out there to be passed off as a rare diamond of the same size and cut; or pile of cheap glass as a heap of scintillation wealth)

And your warning to all - Black and Womanly - is if one does decided to eat this up completely, be sure that they have at their disposal a stomach pump, the best the latest break-through technology can furnish, as it's bound to make them completely sick when the sham wears off.

Somethng like that Chris?

Christelyn 3210 pts moderator

That's about it, Sammy. lol SurlySammy

SurlySammy 138 pts

Christelyn

oh. I was 'fraid of that. *suck mah teeth, LOUD* I told them dim-witted doofus dingdongs that they wouldn't get much of anywhere at all with BWE & possibly other Soul Sista saving sorority girly groups gone wise by appropriating my painstaking pixilated production (I unremittingly worked so hard on in solilitude night after lonely night in someone's dark dank basement for extra privacy, I'd slipped into unbeknownst to sleeping snoring them), and beating me to the punches by trying to pass it off as their own “Bebe kiiid” up on YT for hornswoggled ratings. Well, thats their lumps they'll have to bear for vindicated me. I ain't feeling sore, anymore. Shucks.....

SurlySammy 138 pts

Christelyn

Oh BTW Chris, yeah, I uhhhh, included dat pix of you graced next to your endeared pen-pal colleague 'cause I thought that best to turn the trick to win you over so we could elope to New York and have a splash of ball for our honeymoon around Niagara Falls, as we much on cotton candy, knock back tumblers uf brandy, leaning over the damp rail (just the sprayed -wet two of us), and hope to catch some goofball drift suspensefully to sneak over the top of the plunging waters in a giant milk pail....:)

Christelyn 3210 pts moderator

HAHAHA! I think The Hubster might have something to say about that. ;-) SurlySammy

SurlySammy 138 pts

Christelyn

He better! along with everyone else closest to you! I just can't STAND wasted typing effort. *grin*

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

SurlySammyChristelyn

Sammy we here did not burn too much off your tail surface with our responses did we?

knockoutchick 114 pts

These apology videos are infuriatingly stupid IMO. I guess they are made to drive traffic and engage people in endless circular arguments. Here is the sad truth, yes BW and girls are treated poorly and there is much cruelty and lack of compassion in our community towards women. Full stop! But unfortunately we gain nothing by placing blame and seeking apologies from men who themselves are ultimately victims of the same vicious cycle of dysfunction. As we now have 2 to 3 generations of men raised without fathers....who would have taught these men the morals and values needed to be upstanding men? A young boy who has never seen a working man support and care for a family, how would he know that is important? With 3 generations without guidance who will come forth and know the value of hard work and commitment? As our parents used to say "if they knew better, they would do better". If we currently have over 70% of children raised without fathers how will young boys learn to be men? We see our current crop of young BM growing up listening to Lil Wayne, watching reality TV, dropping out at alarming rates, do we expect productive husbands and fathers 10 years from now? Why because they do as they see. They have no role models in the home, so the MAJORITY of single parent raised young BM turn to mimicing the violent, coonish behaviour deemed to be authentically black by many in our own community, often regardless of the work the mother puts in to direct the male child otherwise. So in fact, the enemy is us....all of us. The BC is not raising black boys to be men. As for an apology, to me it's like asking young BM to apologize for not knowing how to speak Russian.

But if anyone here would like me to apologize for something, please let me know :-)

kiki100 305 pts

knockoutchick

So why specifically don't you like the video? You gave generals about men being victims themselves. I for one dont believe all these hate videos put out by black men are any mistake. I find myself feeling less and less sorry for them when their own issues are ignored by the media. Look who they chose to pick on. I did get what it was about though. A guy on YT named DionStLaurent told me that since BW get the praise when their sons turn out to be gret doctors, lawyers or whatever, they also deserve teh blame when those same men turn out to be murderes, prisoners, etc. What a pathetic little children they are. They feel ignored, so they now attack. i can only imagine what whites think when they watch a video by a black man hating BW.

knockoutchick 114 pts

kiki100knockoutchick One person apologizing to a large group of peope for conditions they have no control over, is just silly. Further, the choice of images and juxtaposition of the wording used in the video gave it the feel of coyness and condescencion, IMO. I am sure the author is somewhere having a good laugh or like many of his "brothers" simply has no idea when he is or isn't being insulting.

I don't think BM want sympathy as it sounds much like pity, but rather empathy. Yet it is hard to have empathy when they themselves show none. Young BM are primarily driven by Id with no societal or religious boundaries. As they like to say "I'm going to do ME". Therefore all others can only do the same. So watching videos made by these clowns is only taking in their destructive thinking. Best to keep it moving.

AIO 454 pts

knockoutchickkiki100

There is nothing silly about Black men FINALLY acknowledging how they have hurt Black women and girls and FINALLY doing something that at least appears to be on the road to making amends.

AIO 454 pts

kiki100knockoutchick

I agree kiki.

AIO 454 pts

knockoutchick

Knockout, I am sorry but I am going to have to disagree with you there. You see women doing nothing but sacrificing to take care of your male behind, then that alone should be enough for you to learn to respect her and love her, period. Fathers or no fathers.

Bunny77 1024 pts

As for the video itself... didn't watch it... maybe I will, maybe I won't. I'm with everyone else though that this whole "apology" thing is ultimately meaningless, regardless of who it comes from. Regarding this particular topic, I remember when I entered college in the mid-90s and there was a poem that was going around all of the black social groups that was called something like, An Apology to Black Women or I'm Sorry or something like that. It was "signed" by a group of black men from some fraternity at some university. Yeah, it sounded nice and sweet and all that, but again, it's all talk and words. Group apologies aren't going to do much besides providing some feelgood moments that make you feel warm and fuzzy. Then life goes on...

SurlySammy 138 pts

Bunny77

feel warm and fuzzy, huh? like some cheap narcotic to make one temporarily forget disturbing persistent troubles & concerns, more or less. But after this watered-down morphine inevitably wears off life returns unwanted with it's seamy stage already set solid, from previous dismal unchecked developments, upon which to resume it's relentless role and have us all, as it's reluctant supporting disillusioned down cast to look forward to a very uncertain future or bleak denouement. Yeah I think I hear ya Bun. Indeed I do.

Bunny77 1024 pts

Exactly Sammy! I remember feeling like that when I read that letter I mentioned back in 1995. Never mind that I wasn't even dating anyone and hadn't been hurt or otherwise by black men, white men, purple men, etc., but I was so into the "aww, look at these great brothers apologizing" thing that I didn't even think more deeply about why I felt all "warm and fuzzy" about some words on a piece of paper written by some dudes I didn't even know!Oh well, I was just 17. I had an excuse. :) SurlySammy

Joyce345 910 pts

Absolutely. No one needs to apologize for marrying/dating someone from another race.

glamdoll 496 pts

Joyce345

We're a few days from 2012 and people still have this crazy mindset. One of my coworkers (bm) stopped speaking to me when he found out my bf was a wm. He said that I was a disgrace to the bc!!!!........huh?????......All of the dysfunction in the bc and I'm a disgrace???? But the crazy thing about people like this is that they will probably go to their graves with this warped mentality. I don't argue with these people and I ignore them when they stare and give me dirty looks because it's pointless.

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

glamdollJoyce345 Can you do me a favor glamdoll and expand on your experience with your co-worker. What is it like working with someone who is hostile with your choice of a boyfriend? What actually happens day to day with this person?

glamdoll 496 pts

Brenda55Joyce345

Me and the coworker got along great until the bf came to the job one day and I introduced them. He(bm) became very sarcastic and hostile after that. Every time I see him "How's the white boy?" "The history is too unforgiveable" "You'll never meet his family" "He only wants you for sex,"etc. I was going to report him for harassment but he's leaving in January 2012. It's still shocking to me how people think they can "police" other people's relationships.....smh

kiki100 305 pts

glamdollBrenda55Joyce345

My dear he feels threatened! He feels like you are throwing it in his face. They are children. The biggest babies!

Joyce345 910 pts

glamdoll Strange. He sounds psycho to me.

glamdoll 496 pts

Joyce345

He considers himself an IBM and even though I talked about my bf, I think he thought he had a chance......I guess.....these people are so full of themselves they don't think rationally.

AIO 454 pts

Joyce345

Well someone needs to tell Black men to stop acting like imbeciles and expecting that and more when BW date/marry men from other races.

Jamila 2824 pts

I've been thinking about something that I saw Marlee87 write on that epic thread. She asked how could a non-black man raise a black/part-black son.

Why is it that black men who date interracially are never asked how is their non-black partner going to raise a black/part-black child? No one asks black men how their white wives are going to be able to raise tan-colored daughters, yet somehow the question of how a white man will go about raising a tan-colored son requires some deep thought.

AIO 454 pts

Jamila

Jamila, you have identified yet another reason why BWE is so badly needed: Black women are subject to such blatant, unfair double-standards! You are darned right that someone should be asking Black men that question about the half-Black daughters they might have with the non-Black women who they love so much.

Toni_M 4842 pts

AIOJamila It's a question definitely worth asking. I have read some truly heartbreaking stuff written by biracial women who had racist white mothers. One woman was made to sleep in a closet and was always sent to the closet whenever company came over, because her mother and the rest of her family didn't want anyone knowing she had a half black child. I think there are some issues that definitely cut both ways, whether the Marlee87s want to admit it or not.

AIO 454 pts

Toni_MJamila

Made to sleep in the closet? But White women are NEVER racist to Black women eh gaslighters? SMDH.

Toni_M 4842 pts

AIOJamila The good news was that her father actually found out about what was happening (apparently he didn't even know about the child or her situation), came there with his mother and removed her from their "care". But even so, that must have been an extremely hurtful situation that one can never reconcile. I mean, how does one begin to understand how your own mother would bring you into the world, and then treat you in such a vile way. :( At least she had a father who was willing and able to rescue her from that awful household; other women commented about not being nearly as lucky.

AIO 454 pts

Toni_MJamila

Well thank goodness for her father. My heart goes out to those other poor women who were not so lucky. You are so correct, I cannot even begin to imagine having to deal with your own mother's hatred of you. Must truly be a living nightmare.

ForestElfQueen 2112 pts

Toni_MAIOJamila whoa!! that's insane! :<

glamdoll 496 pts

Toni_MAIOJamila

My friend (ww) has a son with a bm that left her when she got pregnant. She had to move in with her parents and told me that for the first 2 years of her son's life her mom would not touch him!!!! She said her mom totally ignored the baby for 2 years and only came around when her dad put his foot down. She said her parents were very racists, but the grandson has completely changed them.

Brenda55 4388 pts moderator

Jamila Black women used to go ape-sh*t when they saw a black men with a non-black women and became the but of jokes and seen a shrill and angry. They were then held up as examples of why black men were crossing the color line in the first place.

Black women used to question that sort of thing and were told they were just hateful.

Black men who date and marry non-black women do not pay much attention to what black women think or feel about the issue. They are going to do what the heck they want. In fact I will go so far as to say that they will expect their moms and sisters to help their wives with grooming and hair care issue. Otherwise they are a poor sports and hating on their grans and nieces of nephews.

Bottom line this is a case where swirlers should not worry about what black men think.

AIO 454 pts

Brenda55Jamila

Brenda that is all so true. Basically Black women were beaten into submission by Black men to accept their obsession with and lusting over non-Black women. It is truly disgusting to wrong a group then slander that group for responding to being wronged! Truly, truly DISGUSTING!

Bunny77 1024 pts

"In fact I will go so far as to say that they will expect their moms and sisters to help their wives with grooming and hair care issue. Otherwise they are a poor sports and hating on their grans and nieces of nephews." Brenda55 Jamila

Ooh, you took it there! Yes, I have seen this too... on a message board geared toward IR dating a while back, some BM with biracial kids were saying that they would all but expect their moms and sisters to step in to teach their non-black wives about grooming and hair care. And their mom and sisters betta not say nothin about the fact that he only dated/married white/Asian/Hispanic women because they'd be haters... oh but you betta help do your granddaughter/niece's hair because that's your blood, you know? To me, the non-black partner (male or female) should take it upon himself or herself to learn about styling black hair. Yes, he or she can ask the black side of the family for help, but as a parent, that's your job to figure out how to do it and take time to figure out what to do. It's not rocket science.

Bunny77 1024 pts

Yes, you bring up a great point. No one EVER asks this about black men who date and marry interracially. And I'm not saying anyone should, but it's funny that the BC is sooooo concerned for all these black/biracial/part-black boys who are going to grow up with white fathers. Oh noez!!!!I've even seen another version of this in which a single black mother of a black son will say that she would like to date interracially, but is scared to do so because her son might be "confused." Every time I see that, I say, "So you prefer then to have him grow up without any father at all rather than be "confused" about a white (or other non-black) man stepping in to take on the role of father?" I never get an answer for that.

And another thing... the whole "concern" has a large degree of sexism to it. The "concern" is always about WM raising black/half-black boys, but never about WW raising black/half-black GIRLS. Or even WM raising black/half-black girls, for that matter.

Not that race should matter either way (with sons or daughters), but why is everyone sooooo worried about what would happen with a black/biracial boy versus a black/biracial girl? Seems to me if there's such a big problem with white people raising black/biracial kids, both sons and daughters should be negatively affected by the evil white man's presence in the home, right? (Sarcasm)

JamilaToni_MAIO

knockoutchick 114 pts

Bunny77JamilaToni_MAIO

Most black Americans are not aware how they devalue girls. I have yet to speak with a BM in my family who believes chauvanism exists in the BC.