What Da Cuss? “Hunger Games” Star Disappoints Boneheads Who Found Out She Was…GASP! Black.

What Da Cuss? “Hunger Games” Star Disappoints Boneheads Who Found Out She Was…GASP! Black.

What’s it mean when black girls are ever seen as the victims?

Author : Christelyn Karazin

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Just when I think our future is an enlightened, post racial one, a story like this comes out and makes me realize that the collective IQ of most of the U.S. is less than 100.

I HATE Jezebel, but even a broke clock gets the time right twice a day. They got it right when they were outraged that some fans of the book, Hunger Games, were mad two of the main characters in the book–”Rue” and “Thresh”–are black. And another WTC…I’m at Sprouts market and I see the cover of People and guess who’s NOT included on the cover.

Seriously, "People?"

Note the subtitle. It says, “The Stars,” plural. How many stars are on the cover? What’s that you say? Just one? Oh.

And for context, Rue looks like this:

Adorable little actress, Amandla Stenberg

And this is “Thresh”:

Actor, Dayo Okeniyi

 

A series of racist Tweets revealed much, but one in particular stands out to me, and reinforces what many of us have suspected:

Of course this coward closed his Twitter account. Shine the light and the roaches run and hide.

Let’s examine what this shite-for-brains said for a second. Because “Rue,” is black, her death is not as sad. Why? Because she doesn’t matter as much. Because she is a black girl. Because, hey; we all know when black folks die–especially the darkie girls–it’s like 2/3 less as important than when a white person dies and 1/3 less important than when a black male dies. (To be fair, the boneheads are also salty because Thresh is a black dude. But…he doesn’t die. Does he?)

The magnitude of what this means is profound. And one commenter on another blog nailed it to the wall:

We as BW lose out when we’re portrayed in ways that don’t reflect our realities. This is our general complaint about the media: that we’re shown in ways that cast us as the other at best, as deviant in the common use, and at worst, as a threat to order, civility or normality. This constant depiction of us in this way is the reason why we don’t see our missing children on TV alerts – little black girls are rarely seen as victims. It’s why we don’t see nerdy black girls, or scared black girls, or ordinary girl next door black girls in the news. It’s exactly why people are in a snit over the casting in Hunger Games, because of course, even when a black girl is specifically listed in the text as being a main character, the fact that she’s given a primary role means that she’s read as White.

And, if little black girls aren’t “victims,” then they don’t need protecting, right? When you people demonstrate that that is true, don’t be surprised when others on the outside make it the narrative.

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Kiwiwriter 649 pts

            I tried twice to weigh in on this discussion and my computer froze up both times while I was writing this material. So I’m trying again.

            I saw “The Hunger Games” as a movie before I read the books, and my immediate reaction to seeing Rue on the screen was that of a writer, wondering how they would resolve the dilemma Katniss and Rue had, in that only one of them could survive the Hunger Games. One of them had to kill the other. I could not see Katniss and Rue squaring off in a final battle.

            My puzzlement was ended when Rue meets a terrible fate at the hands of one of the rival tributes, and Katniss avenges Rue’s death by slaying the rival. Katniss then mourns her loss, which starts rebellion in District 11, setting up the next book and movie.

            I was saddened by the death of Rue, and I think a lot of audience members were, as well. I know that Suzanne Collins’ characters think highly of her, because she is mentioned in the books that follow, and Peeta does a painting of her. The two characters go to District 11, and meet her family.

            After I saw the movie, I read the first book, and devoured it in a day and a half. I knocked off the second and third books in a week. I was so inspired, I’ve been writing fan fiction on the subject, which can be found at http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8059424/1/Interview_With_the_Mockingjay

            It’s about the world after the third book, the rebuilding of Panem, and my story is about a journalist trying to get an interview with Katniss Everdeen and coping with the war he just fought and the disappearance of his lover. As I was working this plot out, I thought, “What the hell, I’ll make it an interracial romance. I can do what I want,” and resumed shaving.

            I decided that Panem and the Districts had varying degrees of “post-racialism,” and I could explore it a little bit. The heroine of this story comes from District 11, is Rue’s older cousin, and I go into District 11 to some degree.

            After I read the books, I looked the movie up on IMDB, and found that the actress who played Rue, Amandla Stenberg, is 13 years old, has a body of work, and a Danish father and African-American mother. I hope she’s learned some Danish…you can never go wrong having a foreign language. She also has a charity that fights hunger. I saw her premiere interview on the web, and she came over as articulate and poised. As long as she doesn’t fall into the trap that consumed Dana Plato and River Phoenix, or the illnesses that consumed Dana Hill, I think she’ll have a fine acting career.

            The book and movie make it clear that Thresh dies in the Hunger Games before he can have a showdown with Katniss and Peeta, but book and movie are vague about the cause of his demise. It’s a fair bet that he was whacked by the bullying Cato from District 2.

            I’m puzzled that there is racial anger and debate over the Hunger Games series. I think it’s pretty clear that Rue and Thresh are black, and that their deaths are gravely mourned by Katniss and Peeta.

            From watching the movie, I got the impression that the Capitol of Panem, despite its manifold faults and flaws, seems to be a post-racial society. It’s harder to tell with the two Districts that are shown, 11 and 12. From the books, I got the sense that District 12’s residents were either blond-haired merchants or olive-skinned miners, all from a limited gene pool of descendants of the Hatfields and McCoys. I got the sense that District 11’s residents were descendants of sharecroppers. Both sets of residents were forced by the tyrannical nature of Panem and the wars and disasters that preceded it into an advanced form of slavery.

            In the book, Cinna is depicted as black, and he’s played by Lenny Kravitz, who is Jewish and black. The trainer Atala is described only as a tall trainer, but she’s played in the movie by black actress Karan Kendrick, who has a website, Facebook page, and Twitter account. She seems like a capable actress. To her credit, she also has a sense of humor. Mad magazine did the usual satire of the Hunger Games, calling it “The Hunger Pains,” and they had a large splash panel with Atala in the middle of various tributes preparing for the games. The cartoon of Atala/Kendrick was a good likeness of her. Karan Kendrick copied that cartoon and made it the illustration of her Facebook page and Twitter account. I was glad that she could laugh at the satire.

            I’m not sure why people are having a racially-related debate over the Hunger Games. I think race was not a major issue in the books or movies. I made it a factor in my fan fiction, because I wanted to create interesting, complex, detailed characters and a story world with some depth. It’s not a central issue, and it’s not treated with rancor or bitterness…in some ways, I wanted to have a brief running gag. It is followed with another running gag – and I’m not giving away advance plot here, because the relevant chapters have been posted and the gag has been made – in which different people encountering the reunited lovers repeatedly say to them, “You know, you two look good together,” which is precisely the point of their relationship.

            But I think, overall, that the fact that people are bringing up racial issues and creating animosity in the Hunger Games where not much should exist says more about the people making the arguments than about the novels and movie. I think there are too many people in this world who have penknives to grind, issues and subjects over which they obsess, and any time they see something large to comment on, they do so in their familiar terms of reference, riding their hobbyhorse, beating it to death, inflaming it and politicizing it to gratify their own desires: to spread hatred, infuriate others, gain fame, inflate their own self-importance. It gets tiresome and upsetting.

            I think the real questions generated by the Hunger Games is how our society, regardless of ethnicity, has become addicted to “reality shows” in which highly combustible people of no merit (e.g., Snooki) are given undeserved fame and importance, and their tawdry soap-opera lives become national obsessions. The Hunger Games is the ultimate version of reality shows, in which a nation comes to a crashing halt to watch 24 teenagers brutally kill each other. They are a futuristic version of the Roman gladiator fights, and I wonder if we are not so far, with televised wars and “reality shows,” from having such “entertainment” become standard fodder. The odds, as Suzanne Collins writes, are definitely not in our favor.

angel091 21 pts

I just don't understand why some white people get so racist/ afraid of any person who doesn't look like them. And this seems to go on with not just the white folks in the U.S but the U.K as well. In those countries they  are for the most part the majority any way . What is there to be afraid of  ?, why do they feel so threatened? and become angry when people of other backgrounds are shocker! Not so different from them after all and are seen in a positive light  or rather  a more realistic light. 

Blanc2 355 pts

Saw the movie over the weekend.  Amandla was luminous as Rue and "the scene" was probably the most powerful of the film.  I heard people crying in the audience.

aceontopofkings 417 pts

Welcome to Hollywood. The more people try to change the more people want them to stay the same. I loved the movie Hunger Games but people showed their true colors behind their computers. But I am glad that people like Debra Zane who was the Casting Director for this Film wasn't afraid to go against the grain and cast them not as people may have wanted it but how the writer Suzanne Collins describe them in her book. It's sad that no one had a problem with Debra Zane casting in the Twilight series but you Cast a few blacks in a movie all hell breaks lose. I pray that I am around to see not Hollywood but it's audiences change.  The people who BUY the tickets and go to the movies.

 

Would Twilight had been such a success with an all black cast? Spoiler ALERT: A young INNOCENT black girl falls in love with a Vampire and waits until AFTER MARRIED to have sex with the love of her life??? I would have seen the movie, but more than likely it would have been in the Walmart $5 DVD movie section. The audience needs to open up their eyes more to change.

HarlemGirl 216 pts

The thing that is so disturbing about this is that the kids who are writing this awful stuff are our future Presidents, CEO's, senators, goverenors, department managers and other leaders of this country and this is not harmless child banter, these are kids whose racism is in the core of their being. This is not going to go away once their facination with the hunger games is a distant memory those attitudes are still in them and it will filter into how they deal with different races of people as adults and it will be passed down to their children though they will publicly gasp and say to anyone who confronts them "I NEVER taught Tiffany and Cameron that, we always taught our kids  to respect all races." and so on.  This is why we can't "Get past" the race issue. Every generation keeps it alive.

SFbyDay 218 pts

 HarlemGirl Based on their reading comprehension skills it's more likely they will be asking us if we would like fries with that in the future. I would think they would have enough sense to not post things like this on the internet or at the very least make their accounts private. Personally I don't think racism will every completely die out. It's human nature to not be comfortable with things that are different or unknown.

aceontopofkings 417 pts

 SFbyDay I think they put it on the internet because they feel bigger when they state their true feelings while hiding behind a computer screen.

VintageNarcissa 3152 pts

 Did you guy hear about what happened to Issa Rae (Awkward Black Girl)? She won an award for best web show and the racist attacks started flooding in. The awards  tagged her wrong, they tagged her as #awkwardwhitegirl. And then the white people who lost to her got super indignant, talking about 'they can't believe they lost to a n*ggerette" and "she should only get 3/5 of the award."

 

Seriously, I can't even. 

 

Read all about it: http://www.xojane.com/issues/people-internet-can-be-hella-racist

 

MySmile 4296 pts

 VintageNarcissa YES!!! I posted this on Beyond Black and White's facebook wall yesterday...smh.

HarlemGirl 216 pts

 VintageNarcissa  3/5 award? in 2012 ......... So much for "being past all that racism stuff"

delondrea7 18 pts

well, at least this controversy will keep amandla working.

VintageNarcissa 3152 pts

The funniest thing about it is that the main character Katniss is described as having olive skin and long dark straight hair. A far cry from the actress who actually plays her. One website suggested that she could look something like Q'orianka Kilcher (http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/41574_132845368672_4295559_n.jpg) or a young  Emmanuelle Chriqui (http://image.imagesexplore.info/images/www.celebritypicnic.com/celebrities/emmanuelle-chriqui/emmanuelle-chriqui_4.jpg). But Jennifer Lawrence in the movie is very fair skinned (I mean, the could have at least given her a tan) and auburn haired. 

 

But no one has one stitch of a problem with that. 

Brice Cameron 2282 pts

Sounds like she gets killed so the main white character can mourn her.  So that much is according to formula.

LorMarie 1361 pts

Since the little girl is black, I might actually read the book. I guess I'm a reverse racist.

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kiki100 630 pts

 Marcie "On another note didnt Sesame Street put a young black man to be Elmo and a lot of people were so "suprised" the sales went down for a time for the toy"

 

What?  God racism is a disease. A white woman at work told me she was shocked at the history of this country and that in the 1960's white kids were not to read books that black kids touched!  A disease. An infection in the brain that leads to stupid, bizarre behavior.

Veron 1412 pts

One of my favorite things about the book series is that the characters are post-racial.  No one in the book is "black" or "white" or have any sort of racial distinction. They are all human first, with different physical characteristics. And those characteristics take absolutely nothing away from their personhood.  The characters of Rue and Thresh are definitely defined as having "dark brown skin", so people who are surprised to see brown skinned actors in the movie clearly did not read the books, or read them without paying attention. 

 

Having syphilis is better than having such a stifling prejudice that it actually affects the way people live and perceive their own lives.  At least you can treat syphilis with an antibiotic, but a hate-filled mindset is not so easily reversed.  But the fact of the matter is that these people are rocks in a bucket.  These are people would allow their movie-experience to be negatively affected by something that not only has nothing to do with them and can't be changed, but is also wholly insignificant.  That says worlds about the type of lives they are living, and where their priorities are. Like, I really can't imagine how a person's skin color, a person who isn't even in front of me, a person who is on a media screen, would make such a difference in my life that my emotions would become involved.  I think I'd be quite an unhappy person, if I was so flawed of character that something as irrelevant as such had any affect on me whatsoever. Sweating the small stuff times 1000.

valeriesmith15 139 pts

Thanks Zipporah, a lot of people are seriously damaged, they believe that they are their own Gods and they and they alone are the world, and they find it very difficult to see diversity anything different, that is the beginning of control and people are not valuable because they don't look like you. That starts anything different must be killed, it doesn't matter, that is when the Almighty has to deal with you.

valeriesmith15 139 pts

it is sad, but people need to be prayed for seriously, so that they can either experience, "The Jacob treatment, or the Road to Damacus treatment or any other treatments. God as got for them and while they are making their evil remarks. The author and everyone connected with the film, is making serious money and is rich.

zipporah 1920 pts

agreed,--what happens when little kids start to see this? what kind of worldview are THEY gonna have toward animals and people in the future---valerie, i heard some compare this world to hitlers germany before the US stopped them cold

zipporah 1920 pts

WOW I finally saw some previews of this movie and,again i wasnt impressed.It looks like a version of The Lottery, Lord of the Flies and Chronicles of Narnia mixed together-- If the real book had black characters or people of color in it, they should have shown them. But again: I believe Sojourner Truth and Harriet Tubman were very mighty warriors BUT they wanted to be treated as 'ladies'. I think it would be cool if some black women would get together and make Ms. McKenzies books UNCHAINED and THE GOVERNORS SONS into a movie--havent read the books but i saw her read a little part of THE GOVENORS SONS on Evias website one day---sounds real good and Unchained could actually be 'believable'--some abolitionists had black girlfriends/ wannabe wives but couldnt cause it was against the law----BTW, once heard a story on the Focus of the Family broadcast --called Adventures in Odyssey years ago this episode was about the underground railroad and a white guy from canada wanted to hear about it and went to the place where this family was from that he was studying.  how they didnt want to be seperated: very good drama about how they escaped--you find out at the end that the white man who was studing about the family was his ANCESTORS--my little cousin played it for me when she was 10 and wanted me to hear the WHOLE STORY

MelissaJen 51 pts

Interesting. Everyone is always talking about black girls being victims yet I sent this story out to a few black female bloigs about these beautiful black/biracial girls who were murdered days ago by their mother and not one of them posted it. There always has too be some angle. That is why NOBODY respects black women. Not black men or even other black women. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117638/Missouri-campground-deaths-3-children-woman-dead-Blue-Springs-resort.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

BeautyIAM 1409 pts

 MelissaJen 

 

 

MelissaJen, thank for the story. Please respect this website and not make invalid assumptions. Why don't you respectfully reach the owner of this site in a proper manner next time you want a story mentioned.

kiki100 630 pts

 MelissaJen I don't think that is the reson for the disrespect at all.

SFbyDay 218 pts

 MelissaJen  This link was featured on BB&W's facebook page.

MzUltra 22 pts

Ok...this is just stupid.  I have read all of the books which were very good and really kept me engaged.  Due to having paid attention in my reading comp classes in school I had deduced that both the Rue and Thresh children were black or at least of color.  What I really find interesting is that this book takes place in the future and in order to get mad at these characters being cast as dark skinned or black one almost has to make the assumption that blacks or people of color don't make it to the future. Which in it's self is just interesting seeing that just about every white woman that I see in the supermarket seems to have mixed children??!!

I don't know why race always has to rear its ugly head in the most inappropriate places (did anyone see RuPaul's Drag Race last night??!!!!)

  It's one of those things that has always pissed me off about the Jetsons (watch a little Boomerang and count the blacks that George Jetson rubs elbows with).  We are also not in the Flintstones, but that is a good thing since those fools are clearly cave men!  LOL

mdiva2002 250 pts

She is so adorable how can anyone look at her and have a ounce of hate in their bones. It's sad when any one would think a death of a child rather fictional or fact is only revelant based on their skin color/sex. I'm glad that coward and other's liked him were ousted for the losers they are.

 

Kudos to Amandla and her parents for choosing great roles that portray's little black girls in a positive light. I haven't seen Colombiana or the Hunger Games but am defiently going to see both movies this weekend.   

BeautyIAM 1409 pts

I have to laugh and wonder...were these the same mo fos that were supporting Kony 2012? Because it feels soo good to be the White person that swoops in and saves the helpless black savages. But heaven forbid if Black people are shown in a positive light.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 BeautyIAM LOL! I tweeted that this morning. This upcoming generation concerns me, extremely fickle with no discernible critical reasoning skills.

MySmile 4296 pts

 BeautyIAM haha I have the perfect video for that lol  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMs0KNu9Txg

R. Kamaria 854 pts

White people to the rescue! Hilarious.

MySmile 4296 pts

 R. Kamaria :-D :-D :-D :-D I know, I saw this months ago..and I still laugh at it!

BeautyIAM 1409 pts

 MySmile 

 

Hahaha. Hilarious.

AleeL 440 pts

Amanda is too adorable -- she reminds me of me when I was that age! ; )

 

But yeah, lately I'm beginning to feel a bit wary about what some white and other non-black Americans truly feel about blacks. I've never been the one to assume people were racist, but in the past few weeks I've been seeing little racism pop out here and there from the most unlikely people and places.

 

It makes me very uncomfortable to know that people would choose not to watch a movie because a character they thought was white is really black. Or worse, says their death isn't that sad because they're black. I mean, you look at that adorable, innocent little girl and think it's nothing that she dies because she's black? That is just BEYOND sickening and saddening.

 

I was already contemplating moving out of this country, and the racism of people these days is practically pushing me out.

LaSteph 56 pts

I am definitely not surprised. Us Gen Y kids have subtle racism down to a T. Go to tumblr and you will see white kids using the "N" word cause it's fashionable. After the Star Trek movie came out 3 years ago, you even had people grumbling cause Zoe Saldana was cast as the main girl for "diversity's sake" not realizing that the character was black in the first place! Minorities have been forced to sympathize with whites but the reverse...not so much.

MySmile 4296 pts

LaSteph Oh yes, I have seen the young white dudes saying the N-word to each other with my own eyes (facebook, etc)...it's almost as if they are making a mockery out of black people. Personally, I don't think blacks should say it either but that definitely doesn't mean they should be saying it!!!

Jazmine 233 pts

 LaSteph 

"After the Star Trek movie came out 3 years ago, you even had people grumbling cause Zoe Saldana was cast as the main girl"

 

You've GOT to be joking! So a white actress playing Lieutenant Uhura would have been alright with them? Wow...just wow

R. Kamaria 854 pts

Back in the day, no one had a problem with whites portraying blacks, asians, native americans or indians. Interesting how folks get pissy when they think a black person doesn't deserve to be in a role that is ambiguous. Why are they so concerned? It's not like people of color are the majority in the media anyway.

BeautyIAM 1409 pts

 LaSteph 

 

I'm glad you mentioned the Gen Y folks. This generation (unfortunately I'm a part of it) has no concept of what bigotry is. Its beyond scary to think that some of these people could be elected into congress or even be the next president. This generation seems to be full of a bunch of "know it all" hipsters, who are historically ignorant and proud of it. To them, a racist is someone that burns crosses on your lawn or wears a white robe. They don't it even want to be accountable for what they say or do because its not like their will be any major repercussions.

MySmile 4296 pts

 BeautyIAM  Thank you! You can say that again!!!! Unfortunately I'm a part of generation Y too...They think they're only racist if it's obvious..There is a such thing as concealed racism. smh...I'm glad some of them are finally exposing themselves...

AJ2011 2310 pts

 LaSteph There is a book I read called "Reinventing the Melting Pot" by Tamar Jacoby. I can't remember the page number but one line stood out to me and I cited it later in a research paper; "The assimilation of immigrants into American culture comes at the expense of African Americans."  This isn't an us vs them statement IMO. It says simply that the dominant culture comes with a level of prejudice that we've missed, or have been isolated from, until social networking. 

zipporah 1920 pts

 LaSteph WOW i see Mexicans use the 'n' word too and my daughters friends of all colors..some of it is because the c/rappers used it and They kinda made it a little 'cool'... How bout Niggers With Attitude NWA---ohh thats soo early 90s

mskallyj 35 pts

I hope the people that think that racism is nearly over, b/c we have a blk president read this article b/c its far from over. And like MySmile said" i dont want to live on this planet anymore. I want to live somewhere with no racism or hate over someone skin color, i just dont understand racism at all.

MySmile 4296 pts

 mskallyj Me either...I guess it's been passed down from generation to generation. Mostly white people thought racism was over and black people couldn't complain anymore just because Obama was elected. I knew from the get go that wasn't the case...it actually fueled the fire.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

I left this comment on the BW image thread but I'll leave it here too, since this post has also generated discussion about BW in the entertainment industry taking more creative control:

 

"Black women must take ownership of our media image or things will never stay the same. Why don't we start a consortium to fund the kind of projects we think are appropriate representations of black women? Why not pool our money and support the projects we think are meaningful? This is a better ploy to me than boycotts. I don't have much but I could kick in a few hundred dollars a year. If we got a few thousand black women to do so as well, we could affect change on a small scale, at least to start with. I don't know a whole lot about the entertainment industry but I do know what I enjoy as a consumer and I have a strong business background with start up experience. 

 

This is why I feel black orgs are so worthless - they are not addressing systemic issues in a meaningful way. Coat drives are nice, cotillion is great for teaching young women grace and etiquette, marches make awesome sound bytes but until structual issues are addressed, not much will change for BW."

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introvertedwanderer 1056 pts

 Pearl  Exactly.  What people probably need to do is stop supporting films that are completely whitewashed, having little to no minority casting at all. Movie numbers are already down,  make them drop even further.  Blacks and other minorities aren't appreciated in movies, oh well, then maybe we shouldn't put our dollars into seeing any movies that don't include us, rendering us invisible.  I barely watch movies now anyway, and I'm going to make sure I keep that up, seeing as how people get so disappointed over a black female and a black male being cast for, let's wait for it.......characters that were described as being dark skinned.  Uuuugh, it is truly a sad state of affairs.

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MySmile 4296 pts

 Pearl  introvertedwanderer I think I'm obsessed with documentaries & crossword puzzles. Yea, this stuff has me really wanting to leave the country.. I don't go to the movies much as it is...except for the $1.50 movie down the street..I also watch netflix.

 

I don't always mind if a movie has no black people in it...but it bothers me when almost none of the movies have black main characters in them...there is no balance... also, I I prefer not to see a movie that promotes negative stereotypes.

Asia 227 pts

 introvertedwanderer I try and do that but sometimes its hard. This past summer I think it was three movies came out and I refused to watch them. I saw the trailers for each one back to back and everyone was a love story with a blonde white woman and a dark haired white guy. I was like wth?? Are there no other people in hollywood? Why are the characters all white? Then I posted my thoughts on fb!

R. Kamaria 854 pts

My friend  is a TV critic for the Detroit NEws. She wrote a column about the lack of blacks and asians on primetime TV. She talked about the lack of diversity in Hollywood. She said she couldn't believe the hate mail she received after the article ran. While 80% of the feedback was supportive, there were hundreds of racist comments and a few mailed letters.