Three Days Till Thanksgiving. Are You Ready to Meet His Parents?

Three Days Till Thanksgiving. Are You Ready to Meet His Parents?

It can be the most stressful event swirling couples go through. After it happens, some won’t make it. Some will question everything. And some will come out stronger than ever. Which outcome will you and your rainbeau have?

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It can be the most stressful event swirling couples go through. After it happens, some won’t make it. Some will question everything. And some will come out stronger than ever. Which outcome will you and your rainbeau have?

Meeting your rainbeau’s parents for the first time doesn’t have to be a disaster if you prep yourself in advance. I go into great detail on how to do this successfully in SWIRLING, and if you’re nervous about the first meeting, I strongly suggest you download the electronic copy and read it in time for Thanksgiving.

Rules of Conversation

Information Gathering: Time to grill your partner, because to be forewarned is to be forearmed. Find out what topics are off-limits, because the off-the-table discussions can go beyond the standard politics and religion. Conversely, find out in advance what topics you boo’s parents love to discuss and capitalize off of that knowledge.  For example, “John tells me you have a hundred-year-old coin collection. I’d love to hear about it,” or “I understand you used to play classical piano. I’ve always wanted to learn. Have any tips on how I can get started?” People love to talk about themselves. The more you let your rainbeaus parents talk, the less you’ll have to struggle to make conversation.

And a few more tips to remember:

Be tactful. Don’t ask your honey’s mother if she’s happy with her plastic surgery.

Don’t brag. It will be tempting, especially if you feel you you have to “prove” yourself in some way. Don’t be the one to check off your resume like you’re in an interview. Let your guys be the one who brags about you.

Don’t interrupt. This was a major hurdle for me, because my family were notorious for bulldozing over people when they were trying to speak. I thought it was natural until a friend pointed out how unbelievably rude it was.

Avoid no-meaning silence fillers. Bite your tongue before you say, “Um…like, you know,” separately or altogether in a sentence. It makes you look less intelligent and insecure. It’s okay to take a few beats of silence while you get your thoughts together.

 

Do’s and Don’t at the Dinner Table

Do say “please and thank you”

Do know which fork, knife and spoon to use at a formal dinner setting.

Don’t wear a ton of lipstick at dinner. Some will inevitably get on your teeth and it’s just awkward to the folks around you.

This should go without saying, but don’t speak with your mouth full. If you just have to respond, put the napkin over your mouth until you stop chewing.

Don’t put your dirty fork or knife on the clean tablecloth. Keep your utensils on your plate or in your hands.

And for the love of God, turn off that frickin’ frackin’ cell phone!

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YoFabulous 230 pts

Update: Met the family today (very large group!), and it went VERY well! Everyone was very warm and welcoming.

Christelyn 8885 pts moderator

 YoFabulous Woo hoo!!

Brenda55 19609 pts moderator

Now here is a truly freaky thanksgiving picture.  I mean it is wrong on so many different levels.

 

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Bunny77 2054 pts

Hi all! We're off to rural Western Pennsylvania tomorrow with the new babe to see DH's Tea Partyin', huntin', shootin', cowboy-boot wearin' Appalachian family!  :)

 

I must say... they've always been the most welcoming people and I never experienced any racial issues with them. Guess you can't always judge books by their cover.

 

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Many years ago I was involved in a non-dating IR relationship with an AA lady.  Her family was the greatest!   At mom's funeral my friend's sister paid me the best compliment.  Mom thought I would have been great son-in-law material because I always seemed so "genuine"  The lesson here is BE YOURSELF and let things happen.  Actually good advise for any type of relationship, especially in an IR relationship.

amiar10 361 pts

*sigh* due to issues with my own family, my boyfriend's mother has invited me over for Thanksgiving. I've been arguing with my mom all week and butting my head against a brick wall. I was planning on spending this week in my dorm, so it's quite the adjustment either way...it'll be my first holiday without my family. Unfamiliar surroundings, people, food, traditions, etc. I wish I could fix things with my mom so things weren't so hollow this year. Although I don't have the best relationship with his mom, she's definitely stepped up to the plate after my mom's left me out to dry, and I am more than thankful for it....although I'm going to have to 'disappear' while her parents (my boyfriend's grandparents) come to visit.  Not looking forward to Christmas :/

Christelyn 8885 pts moderator

 amiar10 "although I'm going to have to 'disappear' while her parents (my boyfriend's grandparents) come to visit."

If it's any consolation, I never met The Hubster's grandmother. My MIL straight up told me that she'd flip her wig if she knew I was black. The good news? I don't have to worry about her anymore. Because she's dead. It gets better.

MissFLondon 655 pts

 Christelyn   amiar10 The rest of them were honest with you; that shows a level of familiarity and respect.

amiar10 361 pts

 Christelyn   amiar10 LOL, the lovely bf and I are sadists. We don't expect her to accept us...we're not going to try and make her...but we will most definitely make it uncomfortable for her to ignore us. :D

 

Y'know, she asked what tribe I was from a few weeks ago.  Tribe! Like, in Africa. *dead eyed stare*

MissFLondon 655 pts

 amiar10  Christelyn  

"Y'know, she asked what tribe I was from a few weeks ago.  Tribe! Like, in Africa. *dead eyed stare*"

 

You should have smiled and politely said that you were from the tribe that built.... and then gone onto mention any notable building in her fair city that was build prior to 1800.

 

These people will attempt to other you as a sly backhand when the funny thing is that it's likely that your ancestors were here before hers? Tribe, I just love it.

amiar10 361 pts

 MissFLondon  Christelyn  I'm glad to say this comment was made while my boyfriend and I weren't there...we heard it by proxy. Apparently his mother was asked "what tribe is she from?" by his grandma. She wouldn't dare ask that sort of thing with her grandson present, she knows at least that much. Fortunately.

MissFLondon 655 pts

 amiar10  Christelyn  Little mercies!!!

EarthJeff 3336 pts

 Christelyn   amiar10 "I never met The Hubster's grandmother. My MIL straight up told me that she'd flip her wig if she knew I was black. "

Funny this came up. Just the other day Bee and I were talking about this and how both our grandmothers are rolling over in their graves if they are looking down (or Up) and see us together and how I ended up with "one of them" as my clueless grandmother would have said or how Bee ended up with "a &%$# white boy" as she would have heard.  The world may indeed be slowly changing, but it is not changed yet.

thecrazyartist 2242 pts

I am having dinner at my parents house(just immediate family, very stress-free).  The last guy I dated was estranged from his parents(for reasons I do not know), so meeting them was not an option. Actually now that I think about it a lot of men I have dated have been estanged from their family.....

KingsDaughter 4646 pts

 thecrazyartist I don't know...I tend to cancel out men who don't get along with their families. I mean I see how much my folks enjoy having my nieces and nephews around. They always badger my brothers because "they want to go to Grandpa's house!" Looking into the future when I have kids I'd love for them to be similarly close to all their grans and extended family.

thecrazyartist 2242 pts

 KingsDaughter

 I see it a little differently, I am close to my parents but I am not by any means close to my immediate family.  Over the years they have dropped off my radar, I know it sounds terrible but I have had to cut out certain family members for my own well-being.

thecrazyartist 2242 pts

 KingsDaughter

* I meant extended family*

KingsDaughter 4646 pts

 thecrazyartist  Understood.

Naomi2 25 pts

Meeting your significant other's parents for the holidays can be a stressful experience.  Just be your sweet, polite and kind self, no matter how they treat you.  I refuse to fall to the parents' level of ignorance.

 

After meeting me, my boyfriend's mom says to him, "She's nice...too bad she's black."

Christelyn 8885 pts moderator

 Naomi2 Oh wow, Naomi. Kudos to you for keeping it classy. Now, the ball is in your boyfriend's court. How he handles what she said will speak volumes for what might lie ahead in your relationship.

Naomi2 25 pts

 Christelyn

 Chris, I think he handled it well.  He told his mother that I'm kind, gentle, smart and thoughtful.  He told her he doesn't care that I'm black.  My skin color is not important to him.  She's in disbelief that he can be attracted to someone who, according to her "doesn't look like him."  She's Korean and her husband is white, but in her mind Asian and white people are virtually the same, but black people are at the bottom and "different from everyone else."

Christelyn 8885 pts moderator

 Naomi2 "She's Korean and her husband is white, but in her mind Asian and white people are virtually the same, but black people are at the bottom and "different from everyone else."

 

Say no more. From my research, and I know this is generalizing, but Koreans truly believe they are at the top of the Asian food chain and are "honorary white." A very similar thing happened to someone I interviewed for he book.

MissFLondon 655 pts

 Naomi2  Christelyn  

"She's Korean and her husband is white"

No what she is is confused.

 

I must admit to avoiding people (in terms of dating) who aren't African or Anglo Saxon for this very reason. At some point, it would always come down to their perceived place in the food chain. And your presence serves as a reminder that she might be different.

 

If everyone she looks at is white, without a mirror, she is not going to know that she isn't. 

 

The logic of self hatred/ mild confusion is not something that I like to get into. It really upsets me.

thecrazyartist 2242 pts

 MissFLondon  Naomi2  Christelyn

 "I must admit to avoiding people (in terms of dating) who aren't African or Anglo Saxon for this very reason. At some point, it would always come down to their perceived place in the food chain. And your presence serves as a reminder that she might be different."

 

I actually have a friend that feels the same way, she made an exception for the guy she is currently seeing though, but he is white-asian mixed and adopted(raised by white people, he also has an adopted brother who is half black).  I honestly can't blame some people for this, as much as I hate to say it, usually women have the hardest time with the "totem poll of beauty". Many non black women have a hard time believing they would be passed over in favor of a black woman. A lot of mixed race women who are part black also feel the same way.

MissFLondon 655 pts

 thecrazyartist  Naomi2  Christelyn  

It's less racial and more cultural though.

 

He was not raised by his Asian family, so although he is not Asian, he does not culturally identify as such, so she does not have to deal with as much (if any) family politics.

 

Admittedly, as I live in Europe, the beauty standard is different. Here they act as though black women have somehow bewitched their men, I don't know which I find more irritating as a theory, though in practice, I suppose we might be better off.

 

The fair girl thing is what Tyra Banks referred to on my car crash fave ANTM as prettiest girl in town/ homecoming queen syndrome. These people tend to have high levels of success in their general area and need not venture out; but sadly when they do, they find that tastes vary and the playing field might be a bit more even. What I'm trying to say is that light skin helps if you date black men, it's neither here nor there if you're dating non blacks. Being blonde or white helps in an area where it is prized but you can't always assume that .

 

I've traveled to Greece with very attractive blondes who spent the week as my entourage, despite the fact that at the time I was a dumpy teen with braces. I went back last month for a wedding and walked around a small town with 2 other black friends, both of whom I love and both of whom have steadlily kicked my behind in the dating game. One who is fair with a tiny waist and huge bum and one who is dark and one of the most stunning creatures I have laid eyes on, tall slim, modelesque. But after half a day in the town, they joked about how I would have to be the one to hail cabs and haggle with the locals.

 

The totem pole is interchangeable, leaving their shallow dating/ social pool will teach them that much. 

 

thecrazyartist 2242 pts

 MissFLondon  Naomi2  Christelyn

 The totem pole is very interchangeable, and I have witnesses the "homecoming queen syndrome" first hand.  One of the prettiest in school types decided she was going to be a model, in my hometown she was considered the epitome of attractive, blonde hair, blue eyes, tanned well.  This girl was only about 5'4(standard for a model is 5'9-6'0), and very generic looking,absolutely nothing was striking about her.  She was fairly thin but nowhere near model material.  No one said this out loud though, she was the schools epitome of beauty and we all believed it.  Needless to say the angency had no problem telling her that she had no business being on a runway or in an editorial.  To this day she still does not understand why no one else outside of the small town pool found her stunning. 

Law Wanxi 5807 pts

 Christelyn   Naomi2 

"... Koreans truly believe they are at the top of the Asian food chain and are "honorary white." "

 

You knew I wasn't going to let this one slide. 

 

Do you actually know any Gen1 Koreans? Any former North Koreans, the so-called 'Cleanest Race on Earth'? Well, do you? I'm not talking about Gen2, Gen3, Gen4 or the cast of 'K-Town'.

 

I don't know how many times I have to say this here but, and I'm generalising, many East and South Asians do NOT see White people as superior and many see them as distinctly inferior. Despite what many non-Asian Ethnic Studies types preach like it was Exodus 20:1-17, East Asians do not worship White people or endeavour to suck up to them. We simply emulate them here in the USA because they are successful. Are we supposed to emulate failures?

 

So, just back off that "honorary white". It's no honour at all, more of a racial/ethnic slur, to be honest.

 

I know about 25 Gen1 Koreans, including six former North Koreans and yes, they see themselves at the top of the East Asian food chain as far as purity and culture. Many South Koreans will admit a grudging respect for North Korea, as they themselves see the purity of the race defiled and despoiled by mixing with Whites and Blacks. Yes, the White mixture isn't admired in South Korea. Women returning to North Korea from anywhere, who are pregnant, have forced abortions because the child will not be 'pure'. Go ahead and cite exceptions and my answer is they are notable BECAUSE they are exceptions. 

 

My perception of the Korean 'food chain' is Koreans at the top, Northern Han Chinese next, maybe Japanese or Southern Han [like me] after than and rapidly going downhill through Vietnamese, Thai, Cambodian, Burmese and down from there and when they run out of East Asians, the whole mess slides off a cliff to Whites, then others. 

 

The Korean woman married to the White man may actually be seen as dead to members of her family. I know a Korean man who decided to marry a White woman and the whole famn damily went totally nuts. "How can my brother marry an animal?" was one of the sister's questions to me. I had no answer. 

 

So, like I said, that whole 'honorary white' is pretty much just up in your head. If you heard it from an East Asian, they were having you off and probably laughed a nasty little laugh when you left the room.

 

Me? Well, I can't tell the difference between a Korean and a Northern Han and frankly don't care. I judge more by net worth and annual income; it's much fairer.

 

Hope this helps, LOL.

MissFLondon 655 pts

 thecrazyartist  Naomi2  Christelyn  I laughed out loud at this one!!!

Strangely it's the funny looking girls that tend to make it. Also 5.4, Is she serious?? 

FriendsofJay 1847 pts

 Naomi2 I can't believe anyone would say, "She's nice . . . . too bad she's black.  What makes people act so rudely? 

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 1852 pts

 FriendsofJay  Naomi2 Amazing (and not in a good way)...Even if such thoughts went thru my mind, I'd have enough sense to keep them quiet...

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EarthJeff 3336 pts

 Naomi2 "Thanks mom.  And too bad you are such a Freakin' Racist" followed by a walk straight out the door.

YoFabulous 230 pts

As I type this, I'm headed to Kentucky to meet the family. I'm quizzing him on the drive...starting NOW! :-)

Christelyn 8885 pts moderator

 YoFabulous Good for you! Also, make sure you and him have a "special signal" if the fit hits the sham. You all need to be a beautifully united front. Good luck!!

Jamila 7253 pts moderator

I'm having dinner with my girlfriends for Thanksgiving, but I'm really looking forward to it. Much less pressure than meeting a man's parents! 

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 1852 pts

Good tips for just about any setting! Although what a stressor, meeting potential in-laws on such an important day...I don't envy that experience, but hopefully we will be receiving more wedding announcements in 2013!

My latest conversation: The Walking Dead’s Michonne - Danai Gurira

ncatina 280 pts

LOL!!!  Good tips, and love the pic!  Where did you find that??

Christelyn 8885 pts moderator

 ncatina I purchased it from istockphoto.com

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 1852 pts

 Christelyn   ncatina HA...I just noticed 'ol bird was crapping out the stuffing!

My latest conversation: The Walking Dead’s Michonne - Danai Gurira

WorldTravelingChic 634 pts

 ncatina Christelyn I don't have a significant other (so no parents to meet) and I've read "Swirling" so this post doesn't apply to me (yet!). The pic, though! I seriously LOL'd when it popped up on my screen. Great purchase!

FriendsofJay 1847 pts

 NomadicWanderer  ncatina  Christelyn We'll keep our fingers crossed for you NomadicWanderer!  Every girl should have a significant other for Christmas and every day thereafter.

WorldTravelingChic 634 pts

 FriendsofJay  ncatina  Christelyn Thanks FriendsofJay! I appreciate it!