Hot Abercrombie Guy Tells of “Awkward” Interracial Dating Experience

Hot Abercrombie Guy Tells of “Awkward” Interracial Dating Experience

Find out what happens when I open my big mouth…

Author : Christelyn Karazin

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So it’s the day after Christmas and that’s when all the really, really good sales begin. The Hubster and I made a trip to the mall, three of the four kids packed in the minivan for some shoes and a short jaunt to the shops to spend our respective gift cards. While shopping a caught of whiff of the Abercrombie store (yes; whiff, because they have their perfume blowing out of the vents, I’m sure of it) and remembered I wanted to get a few items for Maxi Me, and, well…me, not because I’m a label whore–I could care less–but because Abercrombie & Fitch and Hollister  (Abercrombie junior) have the softest shirts, sweats and sweat jackets I’ve ever worn. And since I work from home, dressing like a bedraggled college student during mid-term week is like a uniform for me. But I won’t pay $68 for a sweat jacket. But I’ll reconsider if they sell it to me for 50% off, especially if the material makes me feel like I’m wrapped in a blanket all day.

Entering Abercrombie is…well…weird if you’re an adult. The store is dimly lit, beautiful girls and guys you might have nursed if you were a teen mother, loud, strange, repetitive music, and like I mentioned, the signature Abercrombie perfume pumping out of the air vents. Mike (The Hubster) can’t stomach it. He just won’t even go in. We also had the kids, and it was a very real possibility one of them might have been lost forever in one of those dark corners. I was able to get a few things for Maxi Me, because her size is easy. She’s “Abercrombie Small,” which is like an extra, extra small every place else. I am not “Abercrombie Small,” and my clothing choices would require more time to ascertain, so I of course had to return to the mall (alone) after dinner.

After much deliberation and a couple trips to the fitting room, turns out I’m “Abercrombie Medium.” So I got my pile of loot and took it to the counter where I saw this beautiful creature…

Meet Justin-I-think-that’s-his-name. He’s 22 and stands over six feet. When I see him he’s just finishing up one of the those that retail workers love, when somebody who shouldn’t be shopping there buys half the store in hopes to one day he’ll look cool enough to shop there. He looks over at me, I shift my feet a little, because I have a pile too, but not nearly as big. I wonder if he thinks I’m going through some mid-life crisis so I blurt out, “You know, I only shop here twice a year, because the end of the season is when you have the best sales. I’m not really into the name inasmuch I just like the high quality cotton. I work from home,” I finish, awkwardly. “This is how I dress most of the time.”

I’m sure that what he asks next is out of politeness. “Really? What do you do?”

“I’m a writer and I run a blog.” I always sort of dread the next logical question, because it requires some explaining.

“Whoa, cool! What kind of blog is it?”

“Uh…well, it’s themed around, you know…relationships. Mostly interracial relationships, because I started the blog when I got this book deal and…”

“Oh wow,” he said. “That’s interesting. I went out on a date once with a black girl, and it was strange, all the looks we got.”

Then it dawned on me. BLOG TOPIC! I put my iPhone to good use and recorded what he said for your personal consumption.

Notice which group gave him the hardest time? Hmmm…let’s discuss.

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VanessaChristine 6 pts

Why would any black person spend their money at Abercrombie with their past history or racism? 

RuinsBarry 66 pts

 VanessaChristine I worked at Abercrombie and had no problems. Not everyone in the company thinks the same way.

MySmile 4172 pts

 VanessaChristine I was so focused on what the guy was saying, I almost forgot about the store he works for...then I suddenly remembered all the controversy surrounding them.....to each their own....I know not everyone working there is racist or trashy, but whoever ok'ed some of those t-shirts and clothes were out of line (they hit an all time low with the thongs for preteen girls).....in addition to their history of discrimination against various groups  (African americans, Muslims, disabled,etc.....employees and customers)

Toni_M 18844 pts moderator

 VanessaChristine I think it's like anything: Their money, their choice. Me personally, I'm not a fan of A + F. But I'm not going to lay down in front of their store and stop other black people from spending their money there, because it's hardly at the top of my list of priorities.

 

The history of the store in terms of controversy can't be denied, but this could have happened in any story really. The RELEVANT content relates to the guy, not the company he works for.

JQAbroad 334 pts

Hey Ladies I came across this vid on YouTube. I thought it would be perfect for here. His name is Stefan Ludik from Nambia, here's his song Black Girl, White Boy. He's pretty hot.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O0mX0LT93c

Hallyu Love 317 pts

 JQAbroad 

OMG. I saw this video last year. How random.LOL. Yeah he is kinda nice. I think I had this song at some point but don't know what happened to it.. Again so random. Thanks for the vid. 

JQAbroad 334 pts

 Hallyu Love Stefan got a lot of heat for the video. Looks like there's issues about IRR in Nambia as well. The leading lady in his video is also a widely known model in Nambia and peps were pretty upset about that.

 

Anyway I commend any man who will proudly proclaim his love for BW especially through media. It shouldn't be committed as crime or that something is "wrong with him". Just another way to guilt WM out of being interested in us.

 

http://www.namibiansun.com/content/local-news/stefan-steamy-nude-music-video

Hallyu Love 317 pts

 JQAbroad 

That article is a mess sounds like some serious butthurt people over a music video that tells a love story of a man and a woman but because it about a WM/BW it's somehow shameful and not a good representation for the country. SMH at this. That "heat" magazine/publication should be held accountable for hurting his career with their lies. I'm not surprised just goes to show that issues concerning WM and BW are not only limited to the US. 

Thanks for the article.

greengirl7 330 pts

JQAbroad  " Stefan got a lot of heat for the video. Looks like there's issues about IRR in Nambia as well. The leading lady in his video is also a widely known model in Nambia and peps were pretty upset about that"

 

How awful, Nambian women can't date who they want either!

 

"Anyway I commend any man who will proudly proclaim his love for BW especially through media. It shouldn't be committed as crime or that something is "wrong with him". Just another way to guilt WM out of being interested in us."

 

Yes, and I hope there are plenty more sexy WM/BW music videos and movies coming.

greengirl7 330 pts

 JQAbroad 

There is another BW/WM music video?  Thanks for telling us.

 

The video is really good, even better than Elle Varner's video, but the chorus line is a little cheesy:  "Black girl, white boy, can I get some?"

 

Here's the live performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdHz4rwENHM

Hallyu Love 317 pts

@greengirl7 @JQAbroad I agree the chorus line is kinda not the best. However I do like the song and his boldness to make such a song.

greengirl7 330 pts

 Hallyu Love     "However I do like the song"

 

You're right, it is a good song overall. 

 

"and his boldness to make such a song."

 

He's bold and he can work a guitar.

Hallyu Love 317 pts

 greengirl7  Hallyu Love

"He's bold and he can work a guitar."

 

Girl can't he though; he knows how to work those strings. LOL.

 

greengirl7 330 pts

 Hallyu Love 

Ok, now I'm in love. 

I just read some of Stefan Ludik's comments on youtube, and I fully take back the very unkind things I said about his song, and beg forgiveness. 

 

Stefan Ludik (LudikTV)

"I actually wrote this song out of a personal experience/relationship. The dad didn't like me dating his daughter. So the video just tells my story."

 

"...Unfortunately there are still some people who are ignorant to believe you are better or worse than someone, because of the colour of your skin.. That is one of the reasons I wrote this song and deliberately accentuated the "black and white" to "get in the faces" of the haters who have a problem with it! It's all one love :)"

 

"Not actually. If you know me and know where I come from you would see it differently.. For me there is no "skin colour", we are all one people. I was lucky to grow up in a culturally diverse country, Namibia where we are different, but one nation. I went to school and grew up with a lot of friends from different cultures and backgrounds so for me that is normal..."

http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=7O0mX0LT93c

Hallyu Love 317 pts

 greengirl7 

Cool I already knew that this song was written from his personal experience. I had read it somewhere some time ago but I had not seen these comments from him. 

Thanks!

ATLActress 21 pts

I have to say that I've found WW and BM to me the most...bothered....when they see me out with a WM or even flirting with one.  I've gone to predominantly AA bars/restaurants alone or with BM/BW, and the BM who also frequent those places never chat me up or even look my way.  When I went to those venues with a WM however, I'm the center of attention, with these same guys literally flirting and yelling "sweet nothings" to me from clear across the room - all in front of my date.  Now, it may be a coincidence that they chose to display their overwhelming (but previously hidden) affection for me that night, but I'm not so sure.  On the flip side, I've WW (some who even called themselves my "friends") get extra flirty with the WM in our group (that they've previously ignored or said they weren't interested in) if the WM shows any interest in me at all.  And some of these women are already married or attached!  When the WM shows no interest in them, they try harder to divert their attention until they either succeed or get mad and all of sudden have to go home because they "don't feel well".  At first, I thought it was all in my head, but when it kept happening repeatedly, I finally acknowledged what was going on and cut my "friends" list down considerably.

Brenda55 19475 pts moderator

 ATLActress 

"I've gone to predominantly AA bars/restaurants alone or with BM/BW, and the BM who also frequent those places never chat me up or even look my way.  When I went to those venues with a WM however, I'm the center of attention, with these same guys literally flirting and yelling "sweet nothings" to me from clear across the room - all in front of my date."

 

Let you in on a little secret.  It is not about you but about your guy. It is a microagression thing (look it up it really exists) from black guys towards your WBF. Meant to make him look small. 

 

We  get shot that foolishness also so we just step up the affection quotient shown in their presence.

"Yeah guy I know she's hot and she's with me. Eat your heart out."

ATLActress 21 pts

 Brenda55 That actually makes perfect sense, although it's still annoying (whatever the reason).  I'm just glad my date took it in stride and he DID actually step up the affection quotient.  I thought that it was a very brave thing to do on his part and we wound up having a great evening.

MySmile 4172 pts

I love posts like this...You should do more random interviews! I also hope this guy wouldn't be hesitant to date another black girl because of his past experiences...

 

If it ever seems like I complain about dating or guys a lot, this is what I'm really talking about...lol...A lot of wm are lovely, but some are nowhere near prepared to deal with some of the things one must deal with while dating interracially. (This is not just white men though, it's people of all colors and genders)...That's why I'm glad there are so many guys out there, and surely enough who wouldn't let it deter them...

 

I also think black people are harder on white people for this because (unfortunately/ fortunately?) we are usually more desensitized to stuff like that (rudeness in public places, racist attitudes)....or at least more aware of the state of race relations in America... though we are bothered by it, it usually doesn't ruin our day or relationships...and it does not shock us as much....On the other hand, a lot of white guys still believe we are living in a post racial society and that race doesn't matter to anyone....until going out with a black woman opens their eyes to it..

 

Some guys are ill equipped..and it can be especially confusing if their parents brought them up to believe everyone is equal and then go bat sh*t crazy when they bring home a black girl....

onmywayup 1771 pts

MySmile

"On the other hand, a lot of white guys still believe we are living in a post racial society and that race doesn't matter to anyone....until going out with a black woman opens their eyes to it..

 

Some guys are ill equipped..and it can be especially confusing if their parents brought them up to believe everyone is equal and then go bat sh*t crazy when they bring home a black girl...."

 

Lmao, I feel bad for some of these white guys when they hear racist crap. I think you're right that some of us black women are desensitized about this...because sometimes when I hear something offensive the white guy I'm around is waaaay more offended than I am. I remember after one stupid comment, one looked like his whole world had just ended...had a look on his face like, "Did this REALLY just happen?"  He was pretty upset about it and shocked that I was just shrugging it off.

MySmile 4172 pts

 onthewaydown

 

Yep! I wouldn't be sure what to do in that situation!! Idk if I would have consoled him or what... I don't like the guy to think I'm not taking him seriously, but still...If you don't mind, what was the comment that was made?

 

I mean, I can be sensitive but I'm not going to get hysterical over stares or a few comments especially since I've dealt with it before ... I'm not going to lie, I'd be more shocked if a white person made a rude or racist comment to our faces, since they tend to be more subtle about things in public....but most stuff that black people do or say is not that surprising...I would not be shocked at mean stares...annoyed, maybe... but shocked? no!

 

I like a guy who will put someone in their place for being rude or at least who won't stand for it (ex: leaving a restaurant, asking for a new server)...shocked or not.

onmywayup 1771 pts

 MySmile Honestly, I cannot really remember...what I do remember is that it was said in a combative tone, like the girl who had said it was trying to start an argument. And that he was just really stunned that she had actually said it.  And then afterward he wanted to discuss what had happened, and why people were so mean, but I just said something like, "Oh, thanks for the support, dude, but I'm good." 

 

But hardly anything surprises me, regardless of who it comes from, so that is probably why I don't really remember racist or racially insensitive remarks other than the fact that they were said, and maybe the general theme of the comment (e.g. don't date the slavemaster's son or all blacks go to college because of affirmative action, etc.).  I don't know why it is, maybe people feel safe saying complete mess to me. I would hope that most people have not heard what I've heard, and that I'm some kind of rude comment magnet.  The only comments I explicitly remember are the time I was called "n*****" by a bunch of white kids from the safety of their car, and the time that a bunch of black guys walking past me as I walked to the bus stop called me "black b*tch" and "whore" in front of their white girlfriends. (Mind you, I had not said a word to them before they decided to address me as "black b*tch" and "whore.") However, I have heard a lot of things that should have just stayed in the 20th century with lynching and anti-miscegenation laws.

 

Fortunately, as much as I attract rude comments, I also seem to attract the nice guys with balls (excuse my language!) most of the time. Because a lot of them (whatever color they were) have defended me against rude comments (racist or not). I have friends who told me that their white guy date or boyfriend would not defend them against racist comments, instead telling them to get over it or laugh it off. I'm glad I've never had to deal with men like that, and I certainly don't plan on starting.

 

 

 

MySmile 4172 pts

 onthewaydown You've had quite the experiences.. I'm sorry to hear that..people really are bold....and stupid! I've never been called the n-word but I have been spit on, heard rude comments/ stereotypes about black people, and had people tell me they couldn't be my friend anymore when I was a child...but I'm glad you found guys with balls!! hehe gotta love 'em!!

 

I can't get with a guy who won't defend me...next! lol It was nice that he was trying to support you though..I probably would have needed the support if they called me the n-word or something but if it was something minor then I think I could handle it...I'd still like for him to offer his support even if I didn't need it!

greengirl7 330 pts

 MySmile I love posts like this...You should do more random interviews!"

 

Seconded.

 

@Christelyn

Love your blog, keep up the good work.

MySmile 4172 pts

He's a cutie!! I love long hair on guys. ...He's a little pretty-boy ish, but with a manly look..I think it's his face or bone structure that brings out my inner cave girl lol... or that strong neck!! ahahaha...I usually don't even like blond haired guys for some reason (reddish-blond, reddish-brown, "dirty blond", brown haired, yes....but golden blond? Usually, no...)..but he is hot.. not the type I would go for, though, I'm sure he has 10 million girls chasing after him..that would give me a headache lol...

nyaw 189 pts

I think a question should be possed like>>> For plenty years women of many back grounds including women from African countries, when looking for a male prospect, they look at how can this man provide for a new family, yes they looked at material wealth. Now in the hood that is seen as being a gold digger, something negative!!!! So LOL!!! What is so wrong with wantning a better partnership. BM/ BW need to stop severely bashing each other and making these stereotypes of ourselves. So can we also bring back that traditional requirement for a union, plz!!!

nyaw 189 pts

I do not know what to say...I think they were feeling like the black women on essense blog when they found out that hot actor was married to a white woman...lol! Also perhaps he was one of the hot ones...

Some people stare at couples when they do not match in attractiveness as well... However...he is super hot so I wonder if that could be a factor as well....LOL! Women are strange but what is funny you never hear white men vocalizing their disgust of white women as black men. There are plenty gold digger white women out there but rarely you hear white men saying white women are gold diggers...lol! crazy though. Who would willingly marry someonee with nothing positive happening in their life, ?? Black women, lol, so come again with gold digger talk... 

AminahMatthews 540 pts

 nyaw Oh, I've heard PLENTY of WM call WW gold digging bitches. But they're still not as bad as black men.

 
Kind observer 23 pts

This is my first time commenting on this blog. I love it by the way. I am a college student and I deal with this on a daily basis. When first arriving at university , I had a large amount of ww friends who thought I was "so pretty,classy, blah blah blah." but when they started to notice that I was creating a buzz amongst the wm they flipped out! They started to not invite me to gatherings, lie to others about my character and even went to the extreme of bullying. All is well between bw/ ww until they find us to be a threat. It's pathetic how they sit and think that they can be above everyone else. Please.

Toni_M 18844 pts moderator

 Kind observer  That's awful. :( Hopefully you found a better group of people to socialize with.

Kind observer 23 pts

@Toni_M Yes I was able to. You just have to pick your friends carefully or else it can reck havoc on all areas of your life including your relationships

CocoaFly 253 pts

@Kind observer They were jealous broads.

Tammy_Ghalden 864 pts

Not my cup of tea, but this world would be boring if we all thought the same.

niala.charles 98 pts

hmmm... Christelyn   I work at the mall, so I may have to make a trip to Abercrombie ;) lol 

I thought that it was interesting that he said that he was suprised because he didnt think that it was anything that was different or weird.  When you start seeing white guys date black women more you will see white women shame them.  I hope that it results in white women being called out on their racism like when crazy black men obsessed black women are called out. 

Rosethorn 102 pts

Sorry for those messed up sentences! Kind of difficult to edit on a mobile. I do it every time! the MAN', not MSN! And, what a great disclosure Chris!

BlackGirlNerds 44 pts

He's 10 years my junior----but he's a hottie for sure.  Maybe I should move to California?

Rosethorn 102 pts

Well, well, well-WELL! The chickens have FINALLY come home to roost!! I must admit, I was expecting it to be the same old okey Dole! With BM gods lording over everyone! But it was our very quiet dirty little secret! Last week I held back on committing on BW gritting their teeth over Michael Ealy's engagement. What I'll say now, I'd that "our" Racist experiences have been under the hands(literally!) of WW. Something that for some strange and odd reason remains in the shadows. I thought about this watching The Help. This was actual the true brouhaha, the gist of that movie. We got caught up in the servitude. I saw the Racism going on from WW who've ALWAYS been complicit with WM! But WM are the only culprits. The MSN was accompanied with Miss Anne! Unbelievable! These harpies! They exercised their waning little power. Scared the boy. What a damn shame. I know there's more to come. But it only means that they will finally be held accountable. Maybe Sisters...we are about to see ourselves be unveiled, sitting on our Royal Thrones! Behold, baby. Behold.

Toni_M 18844 pts moderator

 Rosethorn I still haven't seen that movie and refuse to watch it.

Rosethorn 102 pts

@Toni_M You ain't missing a thing. I watched it for free and morbid curiosity. Just what I expected. But I did realize that the women were experiencing Racism. OUR experience of Racism is ALWAYS a by product of BM! Like Django Unchained. In fact it's appears that we don't experience Racism, it's exclusively a BM's. And only WM dish it.

reem11 1134 pts

I think maybe I have a crush on this youngster, as he is a darling.  I remember going to the mall (Abercrombie) with my then teenaged sons as they were regular shoppers at this store. The guys working in these stores seem to all look so handsome.

LemonCrush 123 pts

This guy is totally gorgeous!  Too, too bad he's not 10-15 years older!  LOL!!!  Christelyn, did he by chance mention anything about a single brother or uncle? LOL!!!

 

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm always amused when white women are confused by such silliness!  Honestly, if black women truly knew their worth, their high level of attraction, and their true value of self, we (as a whole) would be in a such a better position.  White men really are attracted to us as black women, and if black women really believed that and exercised their right to choose, it would be a different story. 

 

I work in academia, and I've seen it time and time again on campus, just in my own personal experience.  When I first began teaching, most of the white ladies in my office would at least say hello.  But once they noticed that our white male colleagues were paying attention to me, things INSTANTLY changed!  I'm talking years later and these women won't even part their lips to say hello!  They may give me a fake smile, and I give it right back to them.  I find it all a bit funny.  And it honestly doesn't bother me because the women I work directly with aren't a problem. 

 

I remember one time I was in the conference room with about four of my male colleagues.  We were all talking because we didn't have any students visit us during our office hours, and somehow we just ended up in the conference room.  Well, one of the white ladies walks by and sees that we're all laughing and having a good time.  The door was open and she decided to come in.  She says, "Wow, sounds like you guys are having a good time in here."  One of the guys says, "Yeah," and proceeded to keep talking to me.  The look on that chick's face was PRICELESS!!!  She literally was baffled because not one of they guys gave her any attention.  And she thought she was wearing a sexy dress, to boot!  There I was in a sweater and jeans and I had each of the guys' attention and she couldn't handle it.  And of course she just doesn't get it, because to her, I'm not what is considered "beautiful" -- meaning I have natural hair and I have brown skin.  But I have confidence and she nor any of the other white women there intimidate me.  She continues to be confused by that.  I also think that my professionalism, and the fact that I'm a size 4 confuses them as well.  After all, aren't all black women loud and obese???!!!!  Even though I'm a professor, I should still "keep it real," right?!   LOL!!! 

The Working Home Keeper 6625 pts

 LemonCrush "and the fact that I'm a size 4 confuses them as well.  After all, aren't all black women loud and obese???!!!!"

 

Oh yes, encountering a skinny black woman makes some WW very uncomfortable!

cocoababe 1580 pts

 LemonCrush "The door was open and she decided to come in.  She says, "Wow, sounds like you guys are having a good time in here."  One of the guys says, "Yeah," and proceeded to keep talking to me. "

 

AHAH. I love when people tell their stories on here!!

greengirl7 330 pts

 LemonCrush "There I was in a sweater and jeans and I had each of the guys' attention and she couldn't handle it."

 

I love this story, thank you for sharing. ☺

JQAbroad 334 pts

Thanks for sharing! He's a cutie! He could be a model himself.

Seenyc 786 pts

I have been hesitant about going into the Ambercrombie on Fifth Avenue in NYC, it's not y style, but it's  hard not to perv on them young boys, especially during fashions hight out when they come out onto the street! They just didn't look like that when I was that age!