My Story: Jumping the Broom with a “White” Boy

My Story: Jumping the Broom with a White Boy

Author : Christelyn Karazin

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Blast from the Past!
Brought back for our current audience to read & comment on.
Originally published on May 27, 2010. _________________________________________

Marriage is for white people.

Its hard to say what I felt exactly when I read that Washington Post editorial a few years ago offended, outed, but mostly just sad.  But finally, someone in the media had exposed the furtive secret, the dirty laundry. Despite the fact that my own parents had been married for 45 years, I learned early that marriage for whites and blacks was distinctly different if it happened with blacks at all. In my pubescent, wide-eyed youth, I remember, hands clasped against one cheek, sighing my dreams of love, marriage, mutual understanding and cooperation to some friend or relative only for them to scoff,  ”Thats some fairytale-white-people-shit.”

If black women – regardless of class and education – were really honest, most will tell you that their ideal mate is a black man. The problem is, the chances are slim. U.S. Census data from 2001 confirms it – African-Americans have the lowest marriage rate of all races, and black women are at the back of the line. I once knew a single black woman with a thriving career as a civil engineer and co-franchiser of a Subway sandwich shop, who told me, “I’m still holding out for my black man”. In her church, work, or circle of friends, she could not find one single, solitary black man who could fit the bill.  I don’t care if he’s a FedEx carrier, I just want a good one”, she had said.

We lost touch so I never found out if the delivery man ever came knocking with that ring in hand. But if I were a gambler, I’d say she must have faced some tough odds on finding her black man considering 42 percent of black women never marry, compared to 21 percent of white women.

So, if marriage is for white people, what option does an educated, fertile, marriage-minded black female have? Know this, sisters, Prince Charming comes in all colors. White women have already figured this out – and if you can’t find the right color or cultural match, it’s time to expand your horizons and simply find a good man.

I realize that some black women, steadfast in their quest to find the ultimate brother, may bristle when they read this. Some would rather concede to “baby momma” status if they can’t get their partner to commit for life, for reasons here too presumptuous of me to assume. I can only speak for myself. Because my twelve-year-old daughter’s father, who is black, outright refused to marry me when I became pregnant in college, despite dangling the marriage carrot in front of my nose for a year prior. His parents never married. His own father has three illegitimate children (that we know of). As my belly swelled, I remember being so ashamed that I bought a cubic zircon to wear on my ring finger when we were out together in public. It didn’t bother him a bit. To him, marriage was extraneous.

And still others, like my engineer friend, would rather forfeit marriage and motherhood than ever consider marrying outside their race. It’s a betrayal of the Afro-centric us-against-the-world groupthink, and a heartbreaking remnant of slavery. It’s the pebble in all our shoes. Marriage for slaves was not legally or spiritually binding by the ruling class. Defiant lovers still found ways to express their eternal devotion by jumping the broom, which symbolized the leap into a new life, lived together. Such “frivolity” did not stop the slave owners and foreman from raping the women, while husbands and sons watched, helpless and impotent. Some of us still have not forgiven.

My "Prince Charming"

My husband and I jumped the broom the day we married. My mother insisted on it, perhaps as a not-so-subtle reminder to me from where I’ve come. So with clenched teeth and sweaty palms I took the leap with my white husband, and into world that wasn’t quite black or white, but brushed with of wisps of gray. An interracial marriage is truly risky. You join the ranks of odd couples that abdicate their anonymity and risk ridicule. Tall and short, skinny and portly, black and white. Someone stares a millisecond longer than what is comfortable, and then you wonder. A salesman snubs you and then you speculate. You weren’t invited to a party and you can’t help but think, is it because my husband is white?

Is it because I’m black?

I have been called a nigger three times in my life. The first time was in elementary school; a blond boy with dirty clothes and flies perpetually circling his face spat the word at me while on a swing. Then it happened again in high school – some cowardly adolescent thought it was funny to yell out the slur while I was walking alone from school. The last time came just before my wedding.

I was walking alongside a coworker passing out notices to home owners about freeway work to be done in Costa Mesa, California. We made the best of it, laughing about the ridiculous job, how the execs liked to farm off the grunt work to the juniors. We took in the sunshine. We talked about our significant others. He knew my intended was white, and asked me about it.

“What’s it like?” he asked, innocently. “Do you ever worry about what people say?”

“Not at all, I said, full of cosmopolitan bravado. This is California, not Mississippi.

Almost immediately after, a white pickup blazed passed us, a little too close to the curb. A man hung his elbow out of the window. Then it had happened the third and final time.

“Nigger!” The cowards hit the gas and zoomed away.

My coworker, who was white, seemed incredulous, almost embarrassed, and a little scared. Then, unsure of what to do, he chuckled nervously, “You’re not offended by those jerks, are you? Ha! What jerks!” Then, he looked at me and saw my face, brown and burning, tears swelling against the bridge of my nose. “God, Chris. I’m sorry.”

I remember thinking at the time about how absurd it was. Why apologize for what those chumps yelled out? Did he think that I would hold him responsible in some way, like some collective condemnation for all bigots of the world? In a way, he did. In some ways, we all do.

Before that incident I lived in a bubble of self-imposed denial about what it would be like to be married to someone white. I grew up in the eighties, but I was only one generation removed from drinking out of the “Blacks Only” fountain. That day, something grabbed hold and shook me. I began to overanalyze the incident, rewinding and replaying. Seeing us laughing and walking together must have looked like intimacy to those men. They must have thought we were on a date. Ghosts may be dead, but they find ways to make you see them.

Later that evening I told my fiancee about it. He kissed my tears. He called the men bastards. Then we went on, one foot in front of the other, down the aisle. Because no matter what, nothing changed the fact that we loved to cook and garden together, and debate the latest outrage in Newsweek in bed on Sunday mornings. It didn’t erase that we completed each other’s sentences. He had an uncanny way of reading me and knowing my secrets, and loving me still.

When it was time to take the leap, my palms slick with sweat, part of me was giddy with love and promise; the other, secret part, was full of fear and dread. I would begin a life with a man whom had never known bald prejudice, never been called a name meant to humiliate and dehumanize him. He would have to understand why that word had so much power, how it could cause me to crumble into tears. He would have to toughen up to hear a few slurs of his own, now that he was going to be married to me.

I gave one last look at the audience. To my left was his family and friends – mostly white – and to the right was my family. Black sand, white beach. As the tide ebbs and flows, each part takes and leaves a little of itself with the other. I looked at my soon-to-be husband, with his wide smile and hopeful green eyes, and I knew in an instant that no matter what the future brought, this was my man. He was the man.

Almost equally ironic as was the drive-by name-calling a fluke, my husband and I have been lucky thus far to never experience blatant outrage or bigotry about our bi-ethnic, bi-cultural relationship. Indeed, the world is changing. At almost 12, my oldest daughter has never been called a nigger. There are more families that look like us, both in real life and on television. Finally, the ghosts of slavery and all the “isms” that go along with it are being exorcised. Of course we get the furtive looks and stares of bald curiosity or distain that comes along with being different. And I must admit I still hold my breath when we walk together passed a cluster of black men.

I sometimes think about that person who once told me that marriage was a fairy tale in which white people cornered the market. They were wrong. Imperfect and glorious, this little black girl got her fairy tale ending. My marriage works, just not in the confines of tradition or with the ease of anonymity. We continue to transcend together, beyond Jim Crow and the n-word, beyond the fear of ridicule. Knowing what I do now, I wish I would have told the engineer-slash-sandwich-shop-owner that you just have to snatch love for yourself when it comes knocking, in whatever color or cultural package he’s wrapped in. That’s the purpose of this book, and my hope is that all who read it will find love, however it arrives.

–Christelyn D. Karazin

 

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Mekia
on 2010/08/02 at 7:09 am

Hey there,

Whoop! I am so glad I am not alone in jumping the broom. I really want to do it when my husband and I have what we call our “big wedding”. We got married in the courthouse a year ago and we are planning a bigger wedding soon. I wanted to jump the broom my entire life, but when I fell in love with a white man, I thought everyone would scoff at me. It is nice to see that it has been done before.

Mekia

 

Christelyn
on 2010/06/08 at 6:09 pm | In reply to vonnie.

Vonnie, scientists must quickly extract this gene from you, copy it, and implant it into all single black women!

 

vonnie
on 2010/06/08 at 5:17 pm | In reply to Aabaakawad.

I think that I missed this “must want the same race” gene, I really did. Even from a super young age my taste has been allll over the rainbow, with main celebrity crush examples being Zach on Saved by the Bell AND Slater, Dwayne Johnson aka The Rock, Brad Pitt, Bad era Michael Jackson, and Will Smith. Honestly, none of those people look at all alike or have totally alike personalities nor races. And there was never any desire that “omg, must have my black prince!”

 

zoriansmom
on 2010/06/06 at 6:23 pm

@Boomer babe. I don’t know how diverse your environment is but your comment about if Christelyn’s husband is white and if he would defend her honor and stand up for her makes me want to ask if have you notice black women are the only women I’ve ever seen who is not protected? Men from different cultures by nature protect women. I am happily married to a man from North India who is not a tough guy but if somebody ever disrespects me he will be protect me without any hesitation. Men who truly love you will defend you and respect you in front of anyone. Black women sadly most don’t know what that feels like being able to not have to be strong and your own defender trust me its liberating.

 

Christelyn
on 2010/06/06 at 5:59 pm | In reply to boomer babe.

Whew! It’s a good thing we made it legal, then!

 

boomer babe
on 2010/06/06 at 5:54 pm

sex is supposed to be FOR MARRIAGE ONLY

 

boomer babe
on 2010/06/06 at 5:53 pm

Nic, GOD BLESS YOU for adopting that little girl!! I see what you mean about BW but i think it’s starting to change. Although, we seem to be our own worst enemy; women shouldn’t be wanting someone that doesn’t cherish them, not just ‘sex’ them.

 

boomer babe
on 2010/06/06 at 5:38 pm

It’s nice that you have a white husband BUT its a positive IF he defends your ‘honor’ and ‘slays the dragons ‘for you (fight the redneck garbage in the pickup truck) etc.’figuratively’ ahem, not get into a brawl. and ‘brothas’ need to watch out if they try to hurt you when hes with you

 

Christelyn
on 2010/06/06 at 9:33 am | In reply to Kether.

Thank you, my friend! Love to see you here!

 

Kether
on 2010/06/06 at 9:12 am

I’m totally sending a link to this one to one of my student workers who is 50, three children and never married. We talk about this all the time. I think she’ll enjoy your blog.

 

Nic
on 2010/06/03 at 12:45 pm

“If black women regardless of class and education were really honest, most will tell you that their ideal mate is a black man.”

If my recent conversation with my 8yo Black daughter is any indication, you are right – or at least AB is right when he says “Sometimes the preference disappears, sometimes it doesn’t, but it was always there at her coming of age.”

A little context: Mine is an odd household, a Nordic dad (me), a white mom (brown eyes & hair, not at all “Nordic”), and four children who are Chinese, White, Mayan and Black. As God would have it, our youngest is the only Black person in the extended family (which also includes olive-skinned Persian and redheaded Irish and square-jawed German). Although we certainly have our share of race-relations stories to tell, by the time our youngest came along, we must have created a local bubble of racelessness… not because we perpetuated the lie that race/culture doesn’t matter, but because everyone had a slightly different one, and it was never a point of division but of delight. She was six years old before she realized the label “Black” applied to her and also grouped her with others whose skin wasn’t nearly as dark as hers– very confusing. Before then when talking about skin color she would call herself “dark chocolate”, since she wasn’t quite as “black” as her aptly-named friend Eboni.

ANYWAY… on a Dad/Daughter walk with her recently to get smoothies and pick up the mail, conversation turned to what her wedding would be like someday. (Little girls talk about this?! My wife says it’s normal…) I asked what kind of guy she might marry. She gave me a surprisingly detailed description, mostly character virtues and abilities, but including the fact that her ideal mate would have the same color skin that she did. This from a girl who has grown up in South Los Angeles (where we live) but in a wildly multicultural/multi-class family. At her age, not yet having a fully-formed grasp of Black identity, culture, history, etc. (though we are working on that), the reflexive desire was for a husband of her same race.

On the other hand, when I asked “Like, anyone in particular?” she beamed up at me and said “Yes maybe Sam Voss!”

Sam happens to be white, the only white family in a nearby Latino neighborhood.

I didn’t point that out to her. When she gets older, I’ll point her to this blog though. ;-)

 

Christelyn
on 2010/06/02 at 11:42 am | In reply to Aabaakawad.

The perspective your present as a WM assessing the conundrum of interracial dating angst amongst black women is well assessed, and accurate. I love you point, “the truth is not awful, for mature people anyway,” is an excellent one, and should be openly discussed, but in a loving and sensitive way. Thanks for chiming in!

 

Aabaakawad
on 2010/06/02 at 11:13 am

“If black women regardless of class and education were really honest, most will tell you that their ideal mate is a black man.”

This constantly denied fact (denied by more than a few BWIR bloggers) is a real stumbling block in IR relationships – not because of the fact, but because of the denial. These feelings are natural, should be expected, and not in any important way anti-race. There a few natural cosmopolitans, but most of us create our romantic target out of instinct mixed with what we are familiar with, at least initially.

It is assumed by many BW interested in IR that this simple fact will cause their suitor such pause that they may evaporate. Yet the little “white” lie (pun intended) isn’t really believed. So both parties pretend.

The truth is not awful, for mature people anyway. Yes, most BW open to IR grew up dreaming of a Black prince, and may still prefer such if all else is similar. BlackGirlInMaine has been honest about this in her blogging. She is in a stable marriage w/ a WM.

Sometimes this (non-BM as plan B) is denied with anger. But I have been in a few IR relationships, and, perhaps because I am easy to be honest with, every BW I have dated *so far* has admitted this preference. Sometimes the preference disappears, sometimes it doesn’t, but it was always there at her coming of age.

Despite all the angst, this really isn’t a big deal. Most of us don’t end up pursuing our first choice in career, romance, or location, but don’t consider that a tragedy. Human beings fall in love with human beings. Their partners either grow on them, or not. Familiarity eventually creates comfort, then ease.

I hate to tell you women yet another thing to be brave about, when you have been dealt far more than your share, but it is much better that he understand what your life has been about, what you have faced, and how you have evolved and why … than to try to have him think you live colorlessly. Do you really want him to be oblivious to your stressors?

If this level of complexity is overwhelming to him, he wasn’t worthy of you anyway.

 

Sharon
on 2010/06/01 at 6:57 pm

So very sorry that you have been called that awful word.
Hugs

 

Christelyn
on 2010/05/30 at 4:55 pm | In reply to beautifulbrown.

THanks so much for visiting! more and more, I think online interracial dating is the most effecient way to step outside your comfort zone.

 

beautifulbrown
on 2010/05/30 at 3:53 pm

1st let me point out that i love your blog. i have come across black men who are in their 40s almost 50s who say they are still waiting on ‘the right one’ which makes me always tell them that they are getting older and not younger.. i come a predominantly black country jamaica to be exact, so they are many black couples who do marry along the same age range as whites do…. so i guess i am privileged.. i have been called the n word but its never by whites but always by blacks problacks as a matter a fact. and i have to say that i have my own share of critics and laughs by black people because of my relationship especially on the stereotype that white men have small penis and because oral sex is something that is frowned upon by my society that white men love to eat.. but i dont let that bother me.. since lately my relationship as become the center of conversation whenever your gossiping about me.. but i coulda careless.

 

CW
on 2010/05/29 at 10:39 pm | In reply to Aisha.

(Would love to be a fly on Aisha’s Facebook wall)

 

Christelyn
on 2010/05/29 at 6:47 pm | In reply to Lovelybubbly.

Thanks for bringing up this point. I think these issues are a direct result of the dearth of available and marriageable black men. It puts them in a position of power, and us black women begging for scraps, any scraps, just so we can have a man. This lopsided power must stop, which is why I’m so encouraged that black women are beginning to expand their options.

 

Lovelybubbly
on 2010/05/29 at 6:24 pm

I felt the need to post again because when I mentioned black women who refuse to open their options to include men of any race who is of quality have lowered their standards and are now either accepting anything or remaining alone please allow me to give some examples and I hope I don’t offend anyone with my brutal honesty. I’m 40 married settled down content but I still chat with and mentor young people so I remain hip and current with the social scene, I talk to younger black women in their 20s and 30s and I’m stunned. Black women are being encourage to participate in threesomes, to tolerate sharing a man with several other women and not being jealous about it,allow her man to hang out with his boys whenever he wants even if that means going to a stripclub,to not ask him for nothing he only does what he wants for you no obligations black women even the driven educated career oriented type or quietly tolerating this foolishness! I’ve heard black women who are decent willing accepting men who have been in jail criminal types, not working men. When I hear them speak its shocking that we as black women who are doing well would remain with men who bring that kind of craziness into your life?

 

Christelyn
on 2010/05/29 at 4:32 pm | In reply to CW.

Well said, CW. We have generations of men-boys who have never seen fatherhood demonstrated to them. And it’s an unbelievable shame that 75% of black children are being born out of wedlock. Where is the outrage from the community about this? Where is the sense of shame?

 

vulcansdaughter
on 2010/05/28 at 10:43 pm

Its not just that 42% of black women are not married you have 44% of black men that are NEVER married, 2% more than black women. In short there are black men do not want to get married at all. Also too to many black men are not trained to get married. You have some black mothers that want their sons in an eternal state of boyhood because of their issues.

 

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Thank you for sharing your story.  My husband (a wonderful and understanding WM) and I did a three - in one wedding.  We did an civil wedding, then an Irish Hand Fasting and then we Jumped the Broom.  In the process of planning my wedding, I had a so call "friend" to tell me that jumping the broom was not really the thing and somewhat ghetto.  But I stuck to my guns about having it in the ceremony because I felt it honored my predecessors that couldn't marry except in this way and it was part of my heritage.  For some it may not have those types of attachments but I am glad to hear that so many still believe in it and make it apart of their new life of wedded bliss.

NaturalSabrina 7 pts

I am a black woman married to a black man and I know too many black couples for this so-called problem of black women not getting married.  I understand the stats but I have to wonder if ones who want to justify their decisions may look for information that will.  I'm not saying you are one of them or anyone on this thread but I get really tired of this idea that black couples are hard to find.  

bexojo 6 pts

I am 17, the product of an interracial marriage. My mom is black and my dad is white. NOBODY has ever guessed that I'm black without me telling them (I have light brown hair, pale olive skin and blue eyes). Because I look white but am black, people sometimes think it's funny or acceptable to call me the n-word. People have used that word against me so many times that I've lost count. The sad thing is that most of the time it's used by my ignorant non-black friends who think that they can use that word as some kind of a joke. It disappoints me every time I hear that word used by someone who I otherwise respect, but I've come to accept it as a part of life.

At the same time as having to deal with the flippant use of the n-word by those around me about me, I have to deal with just as many people telling me "you're not black". So many people tell me that I'm not black and they say it in such a way that it sounds like they're telling me "you're not allowed to consider yourself black."

I have never heard anyone black say either of these things before (although one black friend jokingly calls me a cracker).

Anyways, I have never dated a white guy. For whatever reason I feel uncomfortable around them. I have dated an Asian guy, a Middle eastern guy and two half black guys. I always get looks whenever I go out with a guy. Even though I live in Los Angeles and it's 2012, apparently interracial dating is still mind boggling to most people, ethnic or otherwise.The funny thing is that people still think I'm interracially dating when I go out with half black guys when really I'm dating the closest thing to my race...that seems to throw some people, even if they know I'm half black.

Toni_M 20122 pts moderator

 bexojo  Hello. :)

 

1.) There is nothing acceptable about "friends" calling you a n*gger or using that word around you. You are entitled to be surrounded by people who respect you and your feelings. I would not consider persons, regardless of their race, who treated me like that friends. You deserve better than that, and you need to believe that. Soon you will be hopefully headed to college or wherever life takes you. Understand that you are entitled to build a circle of friends who love and respect you for who you are, regardless of your ethnic make-up.

 

2.) YOU define who you are. Nobody else gets to tell you what or who you are, especially to justify their own bigotry. Never let anyone put you in a box as to make it easier to disrespect you. You are an individual and you will hopefully have a lifetime to decide who you are and what you want out of life.

 

3.) Race is a social construct, and we are all human beings. As such there is no one group to whom you belong or are required to feel attracted. Women here date interracially/inter-ethnically or support the right of black women to do so. You don't have to be attracted to white or black men. You have to go with what works best for you, and don't look to anyone else to determine that for you. You decide your own happiness.

 

4.) Anything others say about who you date and trying to classify to you what counts/doesn't count is irrelevant. Focus on yourself and your own happiness.

 

 

Good luck to you! o/

bexojo 6 pts

 Toni_M Brenda55 Thanks for the wisdom; the sad thing is that I feel like people my age, especially those who have grown up in a very sheltered atmosphere don't understand how wrong it is to use the n word. I believe that most of the people who do it, do so without true malice; and I certainly do not let it slide when people use such an offensive term - but because of how often I've heard it, I've come to be more forgiving of those who use the word (out of ignorance).

While most people are cowed into no longer using the term when I scold them about it, many reply that they feel like using the word is ok because many black comedians and musicians use it. I repeatedly tell them that the fact that black people use the word in art or comedy does not justify it's use in everyday conversation, particularly by non-black people.

The people most likely to use the term with no real malice but without shame are those who are extremely ignorant about how deleterious racism has been in this country's past and how it still is a negative and highly present force today.

And I'm not sure I was clear on this, but I meant to say that it is typically non-black people who say I am not black. Black people are generally surprised but very accepting of the fact that I'm black.

And I know it may sound like I don't respect myself if I still consider people who have called me a n*gger friends, but I have not resigned myself to disrespect. People make jokes in poor taste all the time, and while I would never date someone who had used this term about me or about someone else, I realize that most people, when using this term in a "joking" fashion are truly just acting stupidly and without knowledge that what they are saying is wrong.

Brenda55 21014 pts moderator

 bexojo  Toni_M Tell us a little more about your self and what is going on. Is this happening at school for the most part?

bexojo 6 pts

 Brenda55  Toni_M Yes, mostly at school. I used to go to school in a very privileged neighborhood. My school was 70% asian, and 27% white. I think that was the biggest problem. The kids didn't have exposure to races other than white and asian for the most part. It was absurd. Our school did diagnostics tests of the kids to see whther any groups were being left behind and we had to answer a few questions like "are you and english language learner?". One question was "Ethnicity?" and the only options given were "Asian, White, or Other". The school was made of the 1% and it had a very 1% mentality.

Then I moved to a school that is 50% latino 25% black and 15% white. It is far more low income, with 70% of kids coming from low income households. Here the word is thrown about as well, but usually in a different context. Here the kids who use it think it's some kind of joke because they're so used to hearing slurs themselves.

Brenda55 21014 pts moderator

 bexojo  Welcome to BB&W.  So glad that you came.

 

Please listen to Toni_M. She speaks the truth. I have a niece about your age.  She and her brother are also biracial. Fortunately she has not had some of the negative experiences that you have gone through.  I mention this to let you know that what you are going through is not the norm and is not right. You do not have to put up with it.

 

Some folks here the word Ni**er in the media and feel that they should be able to use it also.

The word is meant to denigrate and dehumanize and to shock. The people using it know this.  They are not doing this to be friends. They are doing it because they think that they can get away with saying something that they know is socially unacceptable and they are doing it at your expense.

 

The same goes for black people who do not want to fully accept you as black. They don't want you to identify yourself as white but their own racial insecurities want to force you into a box.  Never let any one do that.

 

Date and love who you want.  It gets better. As you get older and can expand your pool of friends you can pick and choose the people that you hang out with that love you for your unique self. The rest leave alone. It does get better.

karris 6 pts

 bexojo I hear you Bexojo.  I have four biracial children.  The world perceives me as white, though I descend from people who spent 500 years as white chattel to brown superiors, then a century genocided at the highest known per capita rate by white people who hated us for what the 500 year thing had turned us into.  Yes, being a white looking female with a black looking guy gets you looked at like a 'ho.  And all the while you're getting treated to that perniciously below-the-belt molestation, and it is everywhere,  the black people around you are seeing you as this privileged person who'll never have to deal with anything like that, who certainly doesn't need that kind of support.  Well, honey, you're not invisible to me.   I see you.  

I am a Black Puerto Rican Trinidadian Cherokee woman marrying a White American man of Scottish and German ancestry.  We had a handfasting in April of this year where we drank from a unity cup and jumped a broom.  Jumping the broom has historical roots in Africa and Black America too.  In September 2013 we will be getting married and will also be jumping the boom there as well.

I have dated Black men, Latinos, Japanese men and White men as well.  How they are and treat me is far more important than what they look like or their ethnic make-up.  Let's also be honest here, as Women of Color (WOC) become more educated than their male counterparts (especially true of Black women and Latinas) it is becoming harder to find similarly minded men in our cultures.  Are they out there?  Of course- but, again, let's be honest, they tend to find their matches with White women and light-skinned Latinas and Asians (still the male fantasy race for racists and biased reasons not to be discussed here).  There may be many reasons Black men and Latinos have "preferred" White women (slavery, Western concepts of beauty, taboo, self-hatred, you name it) to Black women and darker-skinned Latinas and that is their choice. However as we continue to mix and love and procreate, perhaps in future generations, our mixing will ensure that our children's children will not have to worry about racial epithets or jokes or oppression. 

Christelyn 9256 pts moderator

Congratulations on your marriage, and thanks for stopping by!

ElfeV 7359 pts

Sweet story!<3

We jumped over a broom at our ceremony too. We also had the marriage cup tradition for the European part.

...I remember being called 'n' once IRL when I was a young child. We were riding in a new car and some idiots in a dirty raggedy truck drove alongside us and yelled it out. My mom yelled back "Your mother's a N!" as the fools sped away.

....another time we were visiting relatives in a rebel-y enclave and someone had keyed the side of the car with N while we were in the grocery store. My dad was really P.O.'d

I remember feeling more confused than anything and feeling worried at my parent's being upset & angry.

It hasn't happened again as an adult(yet?) :S ..to my face at least. lolz.

S85 46 pts

Your story is a great example of true love with no boundaries. Thank you for posting this!

shericeidawson 159 pts

This is actually the story that brought me to your blog. A friend of mine shared it with me last yeah, I love the story!

Christelyn 9256 pts moderator

Aw shucks, Sherice! Thank you! shericeidawson

hclark 86 pts

I just want to thank you for your story and allowing us to see that interracial relationships with Black women can and do exist. You are helping so many of us move on to love, family and companionship. Thank you for all that you do.

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Infinity88 519 pts

reem11 The first time I was called the n-word was about 3-4 years ago. It was by a visiting janitor in my residence hall. I was stunned but I just chalked it up to him being bitter about life. Less to do with me, and all about him. First time for everything. lol

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Infinity88 519 pts

reem11 Yeah, I think we should take a page from a physicist book and make everything as simple as possible. Therefore, I think either everyone can say it or no one can. Right now, there is way too much gray area and it complicates the issue. i tend to fall towards no one can say it, since some people really internalize the word and it would be good for the BC to stop thinking of themselves in that way. Plus, I think it's disrespectful to the people that lived through segregated time and wanted to better themselves, but didn't have the chance to. Sometimes, I see some behavior and I think that their ancestors must be rolling in their grave.

NATruthstudent 1606 pts

reem11Infinity88

I remember years ago watching BET's "Comic View", with D. L. Hughley as the M.C. This one night, they had a grandmother on stage doing a monologue about being called the "n" word. She said that she thought that maybe the dude who said that thought he was bonding because he hears so many young "brothers and sisters" using saying that to each other. Then she said,

"I don't believe that Rosa Parks refused to sit in the back of the bus so we could call each other "n*****!"

That was the only time I ever saw anyone get a standing ovation on that show.

MZ Elf 2745 pts

Funny, when I was younger, I never considered that I had to date and marry black. With my reading material, interests, experiences, my mothers multi racial/cultural friends and the personality I have, I think I knew to keep my options open in a almost unconscious way.I am not sure that bw/bg would be nothin' but a brotha if that wasn't their only exposure.

I grew up in a couple of different places, identified with being a person in my West LA neighborhood. I ate at all the different restaurants offered on the westside. Chinatown and Benihana were a hop skip and a jump away , we ate bagels from the jewish bakery, ruglach and baklava from the mediterranean bakery. Of couse the LaBrea Bakery was up the street. We lived a multicultural with swirling etc lifestyle.

In elementary, I went to a private school located in a Jewish Synagogue. The Jr and Sr High I was supposed to finish my education was 99% white and surfing was the lunch pastime of most of the students, lol. The cutest and most popular guy was dating a gorgeous brown black girl with braids, lol.

It wasn't until I moved to a nice predominately black neighborhood that I was exposed to the closed mentality of who to marry. The one bm (the one I married) that I felt I could relate to faked who he really was or wasn't. Since no one before him fit and he was faking it , I am back to realizing that bm and I don't really have anything in common.

My point is that depending on where one lived, a bw could have never really dreamed of a bm, I didn't but it happened. Hey, my best buddy and I used Kiss' Gene Simmons doll as our black barbies boyfriend, lol.

The Working Home Keeper 7008 pts

Mocha Z For me, I think it was seeing my older sisters dating white men (and black men). They didn't seem to be limiting themselves in love, so why should I! And when I went off to college, it just so happened that the girls I became close friends with also only dated white guys.

ElfeV 7359 pts

Mocha ZThe Working Home Keeper hahah! ...channelling the Diana Ross & Gene S. rel'p maybe? lol! too cute!

You already know my Leif Garrett & then later the UK 80s bands fandom stories. IRL, I had crushes on all sorts of classmates (& occasionally teachers) but most of my early positive attention & experiences were from euro and euro amer. guys. I think that kind of started my wiring in that pattern.

MZ Elf 2745 pts

ForestElfQueenThe Working Home Keeper Hmmm Diana R and Gene S....that's funny! Her mother was pretty progressive and so was mine. I guess our toys said it all, lol. Black Barbies, wm action figures for their mates.

My friend actually dated a few bm after finishing at USC film school. Thankfully she gave that up. Disastrous and degrading according to mama bear but NO CHILDREN(so smart).

She recently married an amazing Latino man(mom approved)who has her same interests in the film industry, duh. I believe his dad is someone like the Martin Scorcese in Mexico or somewhere like that. Whew, she dodged some bullets. She is now back on tv on a regular series and blissfully married.

Toni_M 20122 pts

I'm glad you reposted this. :)

I was thinking about what you said regarding the "ideal mate" and the commenter's adopted daughter. I think the instinct is strong for many or most people to try and find someone like them, with skin color being one of the quickest "like me" identifiers. But as the little girl showed, at least in her honest reaction, perhaps other characteristics far outweigh race, but since these physical traits have been normalized to be given far more weight than they're perhaps worth, it might cause some women to self-segregate romantically. Basically because that feeling was pounded into them, rather than be allowed to grow up and weigh traits for themselves.

Joyce345 1751 pts

What a great story! Proof that things CAN turn around no matter how bad they seem.

And wow, how you felt so embarrassed you wore a fake wedding ring? I can only imagine.

This story can help other women to dream even when they have been disappointed.

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Christelyn 9256 pts moderator

I love you too, Pearl. Pearl

Jazmine 233 pts

What a beautiful post Chris. Thank you for sharing your special day.

I especially love this:

"Because no matter what, nothing changed the fact that we loved to cook and garden together, and debate the latest outrage in Newsweek in bed on Sunday mornings." :)

The Working Home Keeper 7008 pts

Beautiful story Christelyn! I never saw myself marrying a black man. I was always attracted to white men and always dated them. So it seemed certain I would marry one!

Browncow 1617 pts

This is a great rewind, Chris. I haven't read this in a while. I love your story and it just shows how our stories are all very different, but have the same theme: We found the love of our lives and we're living happily with our husbands/fiances/boyfriends.

Patricia Kayden 1710 pts

Great post. It's wonderful that you married (and are still married to) a wonderful man. May you always be in love and be happy.

Karla 19183 pts

Very, very wonderful story. Interracial marriage (or any marriage) is not for sissies. I sorta, kinda knew I'd end up married to a WM because that's all I ever dated. Being a military brat and then a vet made it easy. At one month shy of 53, I can truly say I've only been called the "n" word once, when I was in junior high and living in Colorado Springs. I was walking home from school and two little WBs were playing when they stopped and screamed out, "Hey, n**ger!" I just froze in anger, confusion, sadness... I truly didn't know what to do. And then, my hero of the day, a WM washing his car, strode over to the two boys and grabbed them by their shirts. He gave them a little shake and said, "How dare you say that to her?! You apologize right now!" The boys were crying by that time and they sputtered out their apologies. Then the man said to me, "I'm so sorry this had to happen. I'll make sure it never happens again." He then took the boys to their respective homes and my assumption is that he told their mothers. Currently, my husband and I live in Northern Virginia. We've had looks aplently but no one has ever said anything nasty; snarky, maybe but not nasty. I love to shock people so when I talk about my husband, I never tell people he's a WM. Then, when they finally meet him, I see them try to hide the shock; very few have just been blasé about it. We were at a gas station once, in Southern Maryland, when my husband was approached by a BM. The guy was angry and said, "Who the f**k do you think you are, rollin' around here with a sistah, Whitey?" I started to get out of the car because, of course, I had something to say but my husband got in his face and said, "She's not your sister. She's my wife and we're just here to get a little gasoline. You want to make something of it?" The BM backed off and said (quite cordially now), "Oh, sorry, homey. Didn't know you was married. My bad." WTF? When Don got in the car, he grinned. "Did you hear that? The guy called me 'homey'." I just laughed but my love for him was so much stronger because I knew he could handle himself easily against any kind of racism. He has a black belt in Kung Fu and he's always packin' too.

Browncow 1617 pts

Karla Really? Wow. My husband and I never had many problems. We've never been just approached out of the blue by anybody. That would be a surreal experience. We've never had anybody be that in your face about it. Looks, yes, but not all foaming at the mouth, grab your pitchforks reactions. It's strange you speak of So. MD and NoVA because DH and I live in So. MD and are moving to NoVA this year because we dislike MD.

I also don't even mention that my DH is white. Does it really matter? Not to me. I'm just dealing with my husband, not the entire group of people. I feel once you get over the "racial" aspects of things, you're dealing with the individual.

Karla 19183 pts

Browncow We've had a couple of things but never by WP. Not sure why, though but we handle it. And, you're right. I don't think it matters what race my husband is but it has become a bit of fun for me because some people just can't hide their shock. It's almost as if they think I should have warned them. Yes, I lived across the Potomac River bridge in King George County in VA. I didn't much care for it. I love NoVA. We lived in Vienna for seven years and then moved out west but are still in Farifax County. I think you'll like it much better on the VA side but, of course, I'm biased.

Browncow 1617 pts

Karla You live close! My in-laws live in Chantilly and my parents live in Stafford Co. We both grew up in NoVA. My husband in Fairfax Co., and me in Prince William Co. So we know that we love NoVA way bettter than MD. So I'm biased too. We just moved to MD because we just moved back from New England and my husband was in need of a job. He found a nice job with good pay, but the housing here in MD is so high that you can't find a truly nice neighborhood unless you have a LOT of money. On the VA side I feel that the housing is more affordable and there isn't any of this fuzziness as it pertains to good neighborhood vs. bad neighborhood. You could be driving through a nice place and go less than five miles and it gets really sketchy, really quick. You're standing there wondering what happened. We want to move to western Loudon Co. because we're pretty country and want a large garden, some land, and no HOA to tell us we can't do that on our property.

Karla 19183 pts

Browncow Ah, so you know about NoVA. I like Loudoun county as well, particularly since they try to encourage people to have at least 2 acres. In our neighborhood, we don't have an HOA; that was a number one priority for us. When we first moved here, it was very rural; we were across the street from a horse farm so it wasn't unusual to see people on horseback riding up the road. The lady who own it died and her kids sold the land to developers so now there are million + mini-mansions across the street. I like Fairfax County because there's very little crime and what crime there is, they know exactly how to handle it. Also, Fairfax has the best schools in the state and some say, the country. I have a lot of friends in Loudoun (Ashburn, Leesburg, Roundhill); I'm in a weaving guild so many of my friends have sheep farms there. I've been to parts of Loudoun that most people don't even know exist. It's a beautiful county with rolling hills and wonderful vistas. If I had another opportunity to move, I'd go there. I don't have kids so don't need to worry about schools (although that's good for selling a house). Funny, but I was always told that MD real estate was cheaper than VA. I have quite a few friends who live in Bowie, Ft. Washington and Waldorf who claim they got their houses much cheaper than we did. What makes MD real estate so expensive?

The Working Home Keeper 7008 pts

BrowncowKarla I never mention my husband is white either! I just assume everyone knows, even people that haven't met him. I forget that our marriage is "different". It's just normal to us.

The Working Home Keeper 7008 pts

Karla Thankfully, my husband and I haven't had any such incidents. Good for your hubby standing up to that BM at the gas station!

Toni_M 20122 pts

Karla Wow @ the gas station encounter. Some people are mental. Though I suppose it was fortunate enough for him that he backed down. There might have been a real life enactment of "When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong".

Karla 19183 pts

Toni_M I love that segment on The Chappelle Show! It's good the guy did back down because he may have tasted some real pain.

NATruthstudent 1606 pts

Karla

I'd have loved to be a bird on a tree branch watching that gas station incident, Karla!

Karla00 382 pts

You made me cry, I admire your strength! Thank you and thank God for allowing you to be able to be in a position where you help others. Your truly an inspiration!

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