News Bites: Who Else Feels Betrayed By Overwhelming Evidence Lance Armstrong Doped?

Disappointed. Sadden that this is turning out to be true. I haven't read any of the details, except what I've read, only briefly here. I was really hoping it wasn't true. I'm still out on this one!

Read the articles you provided, Nonya, and thank you for them.  Was checkin' out other news and came across this article about this fraud (the story has exploded all over the place of course) while sippin' coffee:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/zone-lance-armstrong-bully-downfall-article-1.1188512

Betrayal?  Nah.  Confirmation? Yes.

 DeepWater  you say "I want PROOF"  Well, getchu a piece:

USADA has released details of the evidence used in the decision to ban Lance:

"The full case file that USADA officials handed over to the UCI on  Wednesday totals more than 1,000 pages and, according to Tygart,  includes “sworn testimony from 26 people, including 15 riders with  knowledge of the U.S. Postal Service Team and its participants’ doping  activities. The evidence also includes direct documentary evidence  including financial payments, emails, scientific data and laboratory  test results that further prove the use, possession and distribution of  performance enhancing drugs by Lance Armstrong and confirm the  disappointing truth about the deceptive activities of the USPS Team, a  team that received tens of millions of American taxpayer dollars in  funding.”

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/news/usada-outlines-armstrong-evidence-in-case-file_256450

+Amongst other things, Lancy poo & his doc devised means around testing like strategically timed blood transfusions (ie take some out & store it, then reinfuse into body to dilute just before testing): http://archive.mensjournal.com/floyd-landis

+He has apparently tested positive before, but lied about it being due to prescription (and earlier tests they used to use could not detect specific EPO) and used his influence to push for those tests to be dismissed/unreported.  He never got caught does not mean he never tested positive. Also have to agree with many columnists observations that he apparently always harped on never having officially tested positive, but has never unequivocally denied using XYY drugs.  Good lawyering for the win!  

http://archive.mensjournal.com/the-case-against-lance

+Literally dropped out of a race and/or hiding a couple times to avoid testers:

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/analysis/no-armstrong-never-tested-positive-but-how_261616

Bottomline: His deciding not to contest charges because he doesn't want to drag things out?  Bullshit.  If you ARE innocent, with that much money, at the end of your career anyway, with have nothing to lose but your dignity+name, you *would fight back to the end.

I felt betrayed!

If you go to a horse race in Mexico or in a 3rd world country, it's a given that the horses are doped and the riders bribed - in Jai-Ali games, it's normal for the players to be high on cocaine or bennies, and bribed to 'throw' games ... even Sumo Wrestling has been shown to be corrupt to the core.

But I was so 'pulling' for Lance ... willing to dismiss the detractors as jealous or vindictive.

Then the crash, and the overwhelming PROOF!

Sigh!

Luckily, most of my heroes were either naturalists, scientists, or did really weird things (like sailing around the world alone).

I'm hurt by this.   I'm a sportswoman, participate in, still, and love sports.   I, myself, don't understand this.   Sport itself makes one strong, physically, mentally, internally (the spirit), so I'm greatly disappointed and still have a hard time believing this is true. 

It is my understanding that Mr. Armstrong did not want to continue fighting these charges with some French authorities and thus dropped said efforts.  This hurts.  I honestly don't believe one needs performance enhancing anything once in top physical and mental condition for competition in whatever sport.  Strength in my youth (and even now in middle age, still feel 28 though - lol) you could not **** with me in the mental and physical strength departments.  Sheer power comes with many years of practice and mental tenacity.  I'm ashamed that this has happened.  The same with Marion Jones  http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/21138883/   (her 5 Olympic medals stripped for her alleged doping in the 2006 summer Olympic games and her ex-husband, don't have his name off-hand).   I am sad for him, he was greatness, at least, I thought.   I want more proof than alleged testimonials, I want to SEE a positive test for performance enhancing drugs.   Folks have agendas and I want proof positive that he's done this, I know I'm in a bit of denial, but I want to SEE those results published point blank.   I want PROOF.  Show me positive tests.

I am not suprised, I personally think a ton of athletes dope, he just got caught.  I also think that if they charge him then they have to test everyone else.  

On the other hand my younger sister is devastated and praying that this doesn't happen to Michael Phelps(she is one of those crazy Michael Phelps fans),  and thinks this is all "the work of haters".

I started hating and hating on him when he dumped the age-appropriate wifey who saw him through the cancer and the early years to run off with Miss Twinkletits. I started hoping he'd 'become one with a Peterbuilt' one a road someday at that point.

Nike needs to do a little housecleaning in the endorser department. Losing Michael Vick and Tiger Woods might help. They have some other issues revolving around underage and prison labour in China. Their act is not nearly as clean as they say it is. All the athletic apparel and equipment companies are in the same position, but it's sports, so they get a pass. I'd like to give them a pass on the NYC subway system, as long as they step off the platform in front of the "F" or "E" train. 

Just a little disappointed. Nothing more.

Okay, is anyone seriously surprised? That has been known in racing circles for many, many years. If nothing else, one should have been suspicious after win #4.  What's more surprising is how long it took to get to this point. It isn't like Armstrong's team members haven't spoken publicly about it.

What I'm trying to figure out is how he could have been doping and NOT get caught that entire time. :S

I honestly hate this culture of "anything to win" in sports. There's such an emphasis on the outcome, that the sport itself is taken for granted. Same with the doping in boxing, glove-tampering in boxing, and money pots in football over who causes injuries.

There is a really ugly set of behavior patterns over all that's killing enjoyment of competitions. And it's sad, because aside from competing, the best part of the sport should be participating in the game itself. 

If all that matters to you is winning at any cost, then you've missed the point as far as I'm concerned.