Online Dating and Electronic Communication: The Waiting Game

Online Dating and Electronic Communication: The Waiting Game

What am I doing right now? I mean, RIGHT now? I’m waiting on a text. Nope, not waiting for someone else to text, as you might think. This might shock you a little bit, but I’m waiting to respond back to a text from a girl I’m interested in.

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What am I doing right now?  I mean, RIGHT now?  I’m waiting on a text.  Nope, not waiting for someone else to text, as you might think.  This might shock you a little bit, but I’m waiting to respond back to a text from a girl I’m interested in.

Why?

With everything being so instant in our modern society, you might think it’s a good idea to respond to someone communicating with you as fast as possible.  The dating game, however, is so counter-intuitive that it’s absurd.  I’ve begun to realize that if I think I should do it, it’s probably not a good idea.  For instance, when one of my friends texts me I respond immediately.  Even if I don’t have a conclusive answer to their query, I’ll at least say something like, “I’m not sure, let me get back to you.”  This lets them know that I’ve received their message, and more importantly, that I respect them enough to put their mind at ease about the details.  The dating game, however, is just not so.

You’re Superficial.  Get Over It.

What’s the first thing that you notice about someone?  Is it their grand intellect?  Their quick wit?  Their ability to weave a basket underwater in record time, and then not brag about it?  Of course not, you can’t see those things when you first meet someone.  I mean, if we could see those things I think the dating game would be a lot more interesting, but that’s another hypothetical for another time.  No, the things you first notice about someone are their physical features.  Go ahead and say, “that’s shallow and superficial,” and see what any average Joe or Jane (or Jamila) would say.  It’s human nature to notice these things first, and one of the reasons that I’m thankful for having eyes.  Not only is it human nature to notice these things, but as well to decide a certain amount of like or dislike about that person – whether it is preconscious or a concerted effort.

Once you’ve moved past the initial phases of dating, then someone’s inner beauty (or ugly) becomes apparent but that’s only after you’ve moved on past the initial phases.  In this cultural climate of instant gratification, electronic communication is viewed not as forward momentum moving a relationship into its next phase (as I view it), but as simply more ground to cover in the very first stage of the dating game.

I Text, Therefore I Am

To the younger crowd, electronic communication is like an extension of the first physical meeting.  This, of course, is ridiculous but I didn’t make the rules.  If I did, I would make it illegal to text a love interest until “such time as it becomes apparent that arbitrary judgments will not be made by the party receiving the electronic communication; further, until a minimum number of face-to-face meetings and phone calls have been hereto made evident, to be set by the partner with the most damn sense.”  (Section 4, article 1.c. Common Sense Dating Laws).  Maybe that would make things easier.  As my dating law books are as yet unwritten and let’s be honest, who would care to read them, we’ll just have to go with the regular ol’ madness of dating without common sense – or as I think of it, completely opposite to common sense.

As aforementioned, I text my friends back immediately and out of respect.  What does a woman or a man (excluding me) think about this “respect?”  Desperate. Needy.  Clingy.  Those are the conscious thoughts.  Unconsciously, they’re thinking, “that was too easy.  I want a challenge.  Next.”  Ridiculous?  Yes.  Frustrating?  Yes.  Outside of the realm of common sense?  Well, you’re starting to get the idea.

You are what you text, and when I say “text” I’m including communication in the online dating realm.  If you send a text the day after meeting someone?  Desperate.  Respond within twenty minutes of a text from someone?  Desperate.  Don’t say the exact right combination of words the person is looking for?  Well, that’s just blasphemous.  Do you see where I’m going with this?  We live in a culture in which people can gratify every desire they have immediately.  Curious about something?  Answers in seconds online.  Want to see a music video or a movie you missed catching?  Download it in minutes.  You can get the answer to any question you have – from your phone.  It’s almost disgusting, the degree to which we do not have to work for anything.  Let me get back to my original point, because I could go on for days about my advocacy for delaying gratification in all its forms.

Okay, so what are the implications here?  The point is that, regardless of your gender or the gender that you’re interested in, if you are just as accessible as random bits of information, then why would they be interested in you? 

Uh…For Real?

I know.  You’re thinking the same thing that I thought when I realized this truth: “but dating is dealing with real people, and ultimately, with concepts of love.  We’re not just pieces of information!”  Unfortunately, in this cultural climate, we are just pieces of information.  Scour a dating site, any dating site, and you’ll see thousands of people that you can instantly communicate with.  Why does someone need to talk to you when they can talk to thousands of other people?  On an even larger scale is porn.  Porn is instant sexual gratification.  I would prefer not to go into the details about how this monster affects society, but suffice to say that the negative consequences of porn – whether you watch it or not – are monumental and affect your dating process.

So, back to the point.  I can’t tell you that this is going to get better.  In fact, it’s only going to get worse.  If you’re over 25, you probably understand the merits of face-to-face communication and the value of working hard for something that you want.  It’s worth it to contact someone you’re interested in, and then work hard for their affections.  It’s just good ol’ fashioned dating.  That’s what I’m all about.  If you’re reading this and you’re under 25, however, this is simply NOT the way that your peers date, even if you do.

The (Absurdly Detailed) Playbook

Let me give you a real life scenario with breakdowns on key gameplay, that literally just happened.  I texted a girl I met the other night (after waiting three days, of course), “Hey there, what’s up?”  Okay, here’s the play:

  • Non-committal.  I didn’t immediately ask her to get a drink with me, as I would like to.  Instead, I put forth the vibe that I don’t care either way.  Why?  If I’m interested then she loses interest.  She’s won the game before she even started, and she is then completely disinterested.
  • Four words.  More than that and she again gets the vibe that she has nothing to work for.  “Oh, he sent me a dang book over text.  It’s pretty obvious that he’s interested.”  Again, boom.  Game’s over before you even get a chance to get warmed up and get your game on.
  • Against what I’ve learned in the dating game, I asked a question.  I have to maintain some part of myself that I feel has integrity, and leaving the table open for a woman to feel she is wanted (to respond) is territory that I cannot avoid, if I want to maintain my self-respect.  I must say, when someone sends me a text, especially after a few texts into the conversation, that leaves me zero room to respond I get frustrated.  Leave the table open for discussion.  And here’s what I say: if someone doesn’t leave the table open for discussion – bye.  I have no interest in fighting for your affections if you’re putting up walls.  I’ll play the game, but I refuse to make a fool out of myself and so should you, dear reader.

So, as I expected, she texted me back 20 minutes later telling me she was at work.  She ended the text with “what’s up” so I knew she was interested in getting a text back.  That’s where you caught me when the story began.

I waited 10 minutes and sent her another text.  Concise – to the point: “Nothing, just trying to take it easy on a Saturday.  I hope you had a good Thanksgiving.  I’m wondering, would you like to get a drink with me next Saturday?”  The playbook:

  • She doesn’t care about what I’m doing, she barely even knows me.  No novella there.
  • The “I hope you had a good Thanksgiving” line was risky.  It comes across as wimpy and lame, and could be deadly.  This potential risk is especially compounded in my case, because I’m a white guy texting a black girl.  We white guys are already viewed as wimps, lame, scared and ineffectual, and to send a potentially lame text like that could only confirm her suspicions.  Why did I do it?  Because I actually cared how her holidays were.  Again, maintaining my integrity is more important to me than being cool.
  • Get to the point.  “Drinks next Saturday?”  I already knew what her response would be before she texted back, another 20 minutes later.

She stated that she would have to check her calendar, as she doesn’t normally plan things a week in advance.  Well, I don’t really either, but having a grown-up job has taught me the merits of planning.  I sent another potentially risky response.

“It’s generally not my norm, either.  If you’d rather, we can go somewhere tonight.  I didn’t know how you felt about people jumping at you with last minute plans, though.”  On to the play-by-play:

  • It’s not my norm to plan going out that early, this much is true.  Does it make me seem pandering in this case?  Maybe.
  • You might think I made myself available by stating that I’m down to go out the same night.  In my younger days I would have thought so, but again this is risky.  She could think that I’m pandering.  Do I care?  No.  Again, it’s a risky move, but I’m maintaining my personality and so I’m alright with it.  The addendum about not knowing her dating style sort-of takes care of this, because although I’m presenting a level of caring about her desires (which is viewed as a negative, believe it or not), I don’t want anyone who doesn’t want to be cared for.

She texted back that she would see whether or not she was available – the non-committal response I was expecting.

K? Really?!

I just responded: “K”.  Let me tell you how out-of-the-ordinary this is for me.  I’m a bit OCD when it comes to grammar and spelling.  I don’t think I’ve ever sent a one-letter response to ANYONE, much less someone with whom I am just getting acquainted.  At the VERY least, I’ll text “okay” to someone.  Fully spelled out, none of this intentionally misspelled “okkayyy” mess.  Though I have a slight issue with it I’m playing the game here, people.

Let Me Wrap This Up

I could go on about this even more than I’ve already rambled, but let’s wrap this up.  Here’s the takeaway:

  1. Modern people have the attention span of a fly.  As much as I dislike the situation, it’s not going to change and so I have to be prepared to cater to that if I plan on getting a date.
  2. Change yourself?  No.  Make yourself more concise?  Yes.
  3. If someone doesn’t respond to you immediately, don’t stress about it. If they don’t respond to you that day, don’t lose hope.  There is a measure of “playing the game” that must be understood in this high-pressure climate of dating.  In fact, hopefully they have jobs and responsibilities that they’re taking care of.  Let them do so, and respect that.  There is, however, a line.
  4. If someone doesn’t respond until four days later and they have given you no indication that they intend to, chuck up the deuces.  Maintain your integrity and self-respect enough to see that they have no intention of respecting you by responding.  In fact, they have denigrated you by their blatant disrespect.
  5. YOU know that you have something to offer to this person, but they don’t know that yet.  Don’t throw your self-worth at them just yet, though.  There will be plenty of opportunity for them to realize how amazing you are, later.  It’s okay to play it (a bit) cool in the beginning, and in fact it’s absolutely necessary.

They’ll be interested as long as you don’t come off as desperate.  Once you’ve gotten their attention, it’s time to show them how amazing you are.  The play is, just get past the courting phase and you’re in the clear.

And if you’ve read all the way through this article, congratulations!  Most people wont, simply because it is long which proves my point that people are just not willing to work hard for anything – even if it is working for self-improvement.  In summation, if you have to wait a bit for communication so be it.  If you find yourself questioning your self-respect because you’ve been waiting so long, move on to the next.

Good luck out there,

- Teach

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CleverScorp 66 pts

THANK you, sensei. I fell across this tonight at exactly the right time. Seriously, I thought I was the only one struggling to figure out this modern dating thing. I am currently putting myself to bed wondering why I was asked "hey, text me tomorrow?", which I dutifully did, and then...nothing. As I brush my chompies, I am simultaneously wondering did my question asking him if he went outside for lunch -DC was unseasonably warm today- somehow indicate 1) desperation 2) unbearable uncoolness and/or 3) an unreasonable dictatorial streak around alfresco dining? Had I just CALLED on a PHONE, I'm sure I would not have been misinterpreted. Or maybe not? Much like you, fellow dating warrior, I believe texting should be reserved for those in ACTUAL relationship and I royally suck at game playing. I say what I mean and (misguidedly?) expect the same. I do not believe that you "get to know" someone via electronic means. I will add to your manifesto that more than 3 electronic conversations is my limit before a face to face DATE (not hanging out, buddy- a DATE) must be proffered. I urge you to stay your course and you will find your analog girl in this digital world. Until then, I shall read your posts like the grasshopper I am. And I will not text that fool again. :)

youngteach 230 pts

 CleverScorp

 I feel exactly where you are coming from, and I'm glad my post could provide you with some insight. 

 

I think you're exactly right to limit the amount of e-communication that is exchanged before a date is proffered.  Texting is just a terrible thing in this respect and I, for one, am swearing off of it when in the beginning stages of a relationship.

 

Case-In-Point: I met a girl the other day (you can read about my dating adventures on my blog: www.adventuresofswirlman.wordpress.com) and from the way she acted and carried herself, I assumed her to be tech-oriented and "texty."  I texted her asking her out, and then thought better of it and called her.  During our date, she informed me that it was a good thing I called her because she was just going to write me off for texting her for a date.

 

Even here, the misconception is that texting is "smooth" and "hip."  The reality is that it's informal and adds more barriers to the already obstacle course-like field of dating.

 

I say, just call 'em.  And if they don't like you for calling them, they're probably not worth your time anyway because they're obviously prone to getting hung up on trivial crap.

 

Good luck out there!

socialitedreams 154 pts

i'm 26, so right on that cusp.  Honestly, I wouldn't have even answered because I hate the "hey, what's up?"  type of texts because it doesn't start ANY kind of conversation other than me saying "oh, I'm relaxing, what are you up to?"  I'm snoring within 1 or 2 texts and just have stopped even responding to those. 

 

If for whatever reason I had made it first that initial snoozefest text, at least you did ask for an actual real life swear to god DATE out in *gasp* person.  I commend that because men seem like 13 year old girls these days,  texting and lol'ing nonstop instead of setting freaking plans.  Are we doing this or not? jeez louise, I have blog posts to write, a book to work on, clothes to set out for my day job, money to make, friends to make plans with, shopping to do, things to pin on pinterest, pics to save to my files, so get in the door and make sure you're memorable :)

trox00 24 pts

This is actually so true, throughout the article I was nodding my head in agreement. The thing I noticed  is that I end up playing those games when I am not sure about my interest in the guy. If the instant chemistry is not there then the little things he says and does that under other circumstances are normal or even desirable read desperate. However, if I am interested in the guy those same behaviors don't read desperate at all and in fact I don't want to apply those rules at all. I just simply want to get to know the guy. Unfortunately, now I am the one who has to watch what and how I say things, because I don't want him to think I am desperate!

 

P.S. I am loving these articles youngteach . I actually saw this post last night but I was too tired to read and came back today when I was more alert. Sure enough it was just as good as I expected it and the ending was so on point! ;)

Takunda 36 pts

you guys are kind of making me worried about the dating thing. haha. mainly because i hate games (dating ones), i still don't get flirting, it just puzzles me and i've been told that i'm gullible. which really sucks because there are some extreme liars out there. haha 

 

i'm guilty of the forgetting to text back sometimes. i don't do it on purpose but sometimes i get distracted and forget to txt back for like minutes then wonder why the person's not replying and check and i'll be like oops. though i'm not a huge texter... 

youngteach 230 pts

 Takunda

 The vibe I'm getting from the women commenting here is that, neither are they.  They aren't "texty" people, and they don't want guys to be. 

 

The good news is that these women are all obviously great catches, so if your feelings coincide with theirs then you're on the right track.

There is no bad news.  Bad news is just good news in disguise.

dani-BBW 1784 pts

I'm not into the text messaging thing. I will do basic communication but not full fledged conversations. I agree that it's a turn off when after you've given a guy your number, he texts instead of calls. I usually respond that I am not into text messaging and to please give me a call at such and such time. If a guy ignores that, then it's at his own detriment (I had a guy do this to me with facebook messages, how annoying!). To me, this just means we aren't compatible communication wise and he should find someone else more compatible, not morph into what he thinks will work for me. It's really hard to cover up that aspect of your personality that drives the need/want for instant communication and it will surface elsewhere.

youngteach 230 pts

 dani-BBW

 It's continuing to blow my mind that all the women here are saying that they don't dig the text messaging thing.  I've always hated it, but all the women I've met seem to think it's the way to do things!  In the future, I'm certain to call first because that's my personality, and not worry about the text messaging thing.  Also, I'm just really bad at the whole e-communication game.  I'd prefer to play it straight up.

dani-BBW 1784 pts

 youngteach Good! I say just do you and find someone who naturally aligns with that.

violalove 141 pts

Man, this article spoke volumes to me, and it articulates exactly why I hate the whole process of dating in the first place, especially online dating.  I hate that we view dating as a "game" - it sounds like a dance where we're manipulating other people's emotions, rather than an act where two people who are open and honest about their intentions and are compatible make a mutual decision to be together.  With that logic, it's no wonder we treat dating (and each other) like a game, and make all sorts of silly "rules" that just complicate things more or increase the likelihood of hurting other people. It's no wonder that we have more miscommunication and hangups about dating, and why we're so emotionally fractured once we do end up in a relationship.

 

*Sigh* At 23, I played the silly texting games, and all it did was increase my anxiety about appearing too needy or aloof rand created more unnecessary drama.  At 28, I'd rather just be up front with my potential SO about how awesomely nerdy I am, and how I won't apologize or or see the need to pander or change who I essentially am to be in a relationship. It'll save both of us precious time andemotional energy, and we can get right to the inner-beauty parts of dating, at least I hope.

 

Sorry, I didn't realize I was rambling... but great article, if you ever do write your book, I will definitely buy it! :)

somethingdifferent22 352 pts

Haha I read this through and let me tell you, this does have some great observations. As a person who was doing the online dating game for over a year I must admit it's ashamedly true, guys who message back quickly do seem to lack that quality of making girls feel like they worked for it, BUT it depends on how strong their attraction to you is in the first place. I look back now at how apathetic I almost acted towards my current rainbeau because he kept asking for my number and responded quickly all the time but as soon as I met him in person things changed for the better :) he finally became less nervous and now we're doing well! But it was his personality that drew me too him once I met him and I was quick to try and write him off before hand since there IS SO MANY options online you become more and more picky. But at the same time I disliked any guy that would take 20 minutes or more to text me back 10 is an acceptable time of not seeming too needy and not taking too long in the early stages to me. Every girl wants to think they've got a shot but has to work for it a little I think. But in your case with this particular woman I can pretty much tell you she's probably not interested, or she might be talking to someone else and keeping you as another option (which does happen a lot online). It really is about not putting all your eggs in one basket. I dated plenty of people and chatted up many guys (yes I messaged some them first and most of them still turned out well) and I wouldn't take back that whole experience for anything at this point. :) You really have to go through a lottt of bad eggs to find the few good ones in the bunch. But don't fret! :D I'm pretty sure it will all pay off in the end. Best sign is if the girl responds right away and gives you clear answers things will turn out fine ;)

tracyreneejones 3514 pts

I read the entire thing *proclaimed loudly* I ALWAYS read things through. In think texting can be a good vetting tool, as far as communication is concerned. I have friends of all ages and some are able to text wordy paragraphs and others can barely put together a sentence. I have people (one that I love/hate) that texts his response days later. I think its more easily distracted than purposely ignored. I can be just as bad sometimes. I love your writing BTW.

youngteach 230 pts

 tracyreneejones

 I can't stand when people text days later.  That drives me slap crazy. 

 

Thanks for the compliment, Tracy!

tracyreneejones 3514 pts

 youngteach is 'slap crazy' similar to 'punch drunk'? I love those sayings....those southern people sayings. My father used to use phrases like that. I just giggled.... Oh, I'm crushing on you.....I text days later because I have a busy brain, I find its the artsy types that can't seem to focus too well. I love my friends but we forget to text each other (among other things). Maybe you'd go for a more orderly and efficient type who can convey and complete a plan....another teacher perhaps? 

ASwirlGirl 3023 pts

 tracyreneejones "Easily distracted" is an understatement. I've been guilty (on the regular) of typing my response, getting distracted, and not noticing until hours (and yes, sometimes days) later that I never hit "send."

 

*Hangs head in shame*

tracyreneejones 3514 pts

@ASwirlGirl *hangs head with you*

LaSteph 56 pts

You can tell by his witty writing that homeboy is well-read, which is always an A+ in my book!! If he starts quoting Shakespearean sonnets, it's game over LOL. 

youngteach 230 pts

 LaSteph

 I can't quote Shakespeare, but I can quote a number of major choral works, in which the texts are usually taken from famous poets. 

 

My favorite poet is Goethe.  I've set several of his poems to music.  I set his "Wandrer's Nachtlied," "Wandrer's Nachtlied II," and "Nähe des Geliebten" into a song cycle.  I also set his "Ein großer Teich war zugefroren," which is probably my favorite of the pieces.

 

Homeboy loves German!

EarthJeff 3239 pts

 youngteach  LaSteph "My favorite poet is Goethe.  I've set several of his poems to music.  I set his "Wandrer's Nachtlied," "Wandrer's Nachtlied II," and "Nähe des Geliebten" into a song cycle.  I also set his "Ein großer Teich war zugefroren," which is probably my favorite of the pieces."

Show-off.  Are you trying to impress Ameenah, Christelyn, or both?  We need to SHARE......  Or I will start posting things to impress them about Anatomy and Physiology.... and Biology....

youngteach 230 pts

 EarthJeff  

 I'm proud of my accomplishments, Jeff.  It wasn't an attempt to impress anyone - certainly not someone I don't know. 

 

This share thing is a bit uncomfortable, to me.  I'm not trying to get at Christelyn like that.  I'm not trying to be rude, it's just a bit awkward to be looking like that on a public forum.

Brenda55 19278 pts moderator

 youngteach  EarthJeff Teach. Jeff is just busting your chops. He takes it as well as he dishes it out. 

Goethe is pretty deep stuff.

I believe you teach voice.  Do you also play a musical instrument?

youngteach 230 pts

 Brenda55  EarthJeff

 Got it.  Just like texting, it's hard to read the intended tone (sarcasm, joking, etc.) over "blog comment."  I'm not trying to offend anyone!  So, my bad if anyone gets offended.

 

Yeah, voice is my gig.  I played tenor saxophone for 5 years, but gave it up for the vocal side of music.

EarthJeff 3239 pts

 youngteach " I'm proud of my accomplishments, Jeff.  It wasn't an attempt to impress anyone - certainly not someone I don't know. "

You should be proud of your accomplishments.  And actually the German is pretty impressive.  The music is even more impressive.  Brenda is right, I am just busting your chops and I DO take it as well as I dish it....  In all seriousness, you bring a lot to the community and I know that I for one am really happy to have you on board...

youngteach 230 pts

 EarthJeff

 Haha, alright good to know.  Thanks, I appreciate it!  I'm glad to be here.

grrlysquirrel75 1121 pts

A little less than 10 years ago when I went through an online dating phase, it was all about those first few emails to feel each other out. If he didn't seem like a serial killer then I would slide him the digits (of my landline, no less), and we'd see if we hit it off. A couple of times I did make the mistake of giving a guy with possible latent serial killer tendencies my number, but luckily he didn't show up outside my apartment building with a meat cleaver. He just hung up on me during our phone conversation. At 37 I'm not sure if these online dating "games" apply to me, but I'm thankful I didn't have to jump through these hoops and second-guess myself when I was in the online dating arena. When it comes to dating or my interest in dating someone, I'm a straight-shooter, so any guy that's trying to work a formula or an equation with regard to getting at me will be caught off guard. I threw the script away a long time ago. Teach, I hope you keep us in the loop with your online dating adventures :-).

WorldTravelingChic 603 pts

Wow, this post makes me glad I'm in the "over 30" group. I'm way too direct and transparent for the games and rules of engagment talked about here. If some guy asked me out via text that would be an automatic turn-off. If I'm REALLY interested I might go with it the first time, but I'd definitely let him know that it wouldn't work a second time. The waiting so as to avoid the desperation stigma also baffles my mind. I think I move too often and live too spur-of-the-moment for that. I'm also "old." :D

 

I feel for ya youngteach as you learn to navigate these waters. You've put a lot of thought into your game plan and it shows. If you ever publish the Common Sense Dating Laws, let me know. Section 4, article 1.c. was hilarious and sounds about right for the world I live in.

GetMeOutofBlackistan 297 pts

 WorldTravelingChic Thank You!!!

 

I just don't get it - why do we have to play games at all? Like you, I am too honest and open for this ish!

 

I guess I should start collecting cats now. *sigh*

youngteach 230 pts

 GetMeOutofBlackistan  WorldTravelingChic

 I would love to write a book of Dating Laws!  They would be my personal laws, however.  Hopefully people can dig that :)

WorldTravelingChic 603 pts

 GetMeOutofBlackistan No! No collect cats. That is not an option! You just have to find someone with some common sense (like youngteach) and let them know it's okay to sideline the games and use it.

 

I'm allergic to cats, so that's not an option for me. No cats! :D

MyBetterSelf 7908 pts

@WorldTravelingChic @GetMeOutofBlackistan I agree. Step away from the cats. :-) There's someone out there for each of us. Just as you don't like the games, trust there are guys out there with similar sentiment. Being part of the "over 30 group" as well @WorldTravelingChic, I can certainly relate. I find it interesting how I'm more direct, have precious little patience for games, etc. now than I ever was in my 20s or 30s. @Youngteach Great article! I wish you the best on your dating adventures.

grrlysquirrel75 1121 pts

 GetMeOutofBlackistan  WorldTravelingChic Start collecting cats, hahaha!!! My Twitter profile used to say that I was a crazy-cat-lady-in-training!

 

I'm too honest and open, as well. Games just don't do it for me. Be real with me and stop living your life by some effed up rule book.

CleverScorp 66 pts

@GetMeOutofBlackistan @WorldTravelingChic *reaches over to scratch kitty's head* Too late for me. LOL

WorldTravelingChic 603 pts

 CleverScorp  LOL! So long as there aren't 20 or so cats hanging out at your place, you should be okay. :)

Leille 151 pts

What ever happened to just "giving her a call?"

 

Last guy I dated NEVER  called me back, when I returned his calls. He only sent texts, and it was a MAJOR turn off. If you like the woman, call her!

Leille 151 pts

I'm 29 years old YoungTeach, and "games" start to get a little old when you're serious. Text culture is a game that you shouldn't get caught up in: the constant guessing, and waiting. It's so impersonal! It's just sad how so many of us get our emotions caught up in a text!

 

There's nothing wrong with a little old fashioned phone call. You should call her and ask her out. Just in case she's not interested, make sure not to  put all your eggs in one basket.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@Leille every dating 'expert' I've heard from says that women should not respond to men that text, that men need to call especially if you're interesting in wooing a woman. I'm just saying and I get you with the 'game playing' thing I hated that too.

grrlysquirrel75 1121 pts

 Leille For realz, gurl! Dialing those 10 digits is so much quicker than sending a text. But then again, I'm 37 and remember dating in the earlier days of cell phones when no one texted.

youngteach 230 pts

 grrlysquirrel75  Leille

 Ladies, I agree with you.  The issue, however, is that it's viewed as potentially aggressive by some women.  I PREFER to call a woman, but when dealing with a person that you've just met it's hard to gauge what their reaction will be. 

 

That being said, I'm just starting to get to the stage where I see it as a good thing to go ahead and weed out the incompatible.  If they don't want me calling, then why am I interested?  I'd like to do some personal research into the texting vs. calling phenomenon.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@youngteach @grrlysquirrel75 @Leille when you do it let me know. I don't really have an opinion when I started dating after my marriage was over, texting wasn't big as it is now and that was 2009. But personally I hate the phone too. I'd rather just see a person. But I must say I text my husband all day long and he enjoys those texts :-)

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@youngteach @grrlysquirrel75 @Leille I'm also Avery sarcastic person and sarcasm just doesn't always communicate well via written medium unless you speak it. Believe me,,I've had problems all over this place b/c of it.

Caramelqueen 48 pts

If a woman sees a simple phone call as aggressive . . . well, that sounds nuts IMO.  There's a difference btw. a phone call at say, 7-7:30 p.m. to see how someone's day went, and a wake up call at 6:00 a.m., lol. 

 

grrlysquirrel75 1121 pts

@Caramelqueen Yeah, what's aggressive about a phone call? It's a different story if someone is blowing up your phone, but a call to see how a person's day went is well within the parameters of acceptable behavior. I think the issue is that actual, spoken, verbal communication is becoming very unpopular. Personally, when it comes to a potential love interest, I like to be able to articulate my thoughts verbally instead of reading them over and over again, editing them to try to strike the right balance between witty and intriguing.

KingsDaughter 4586 pts

 grrlysquirrel75  Caramelqueen actually texts can quickly become overly familiar, sometimes folks forget that they really don't KNOW you. A call is so much better, you can convey interest, warmth and be very engaging...especially if you have one of those accents I like.

 

 

grrlysquirrel75 1121 pts

 KingsDaughter Caramelqueen True, because there is no tone or facial expression to accompany a text, folks think they can just say any ol' thing. People type stuff they know would not even be coming out of their mouths if they were having an actual conversation with someone.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@grrlysquirrel75 @KingsDaughter @Caramelqueen where is email in this conversation, what about Skype? LOL. Oh this communication thing is so complicated. I'm glad my dating days are over.

KingsDaughter 4586 pts

 Leille  Agreed. No dithering!

EarthJeff 3239 pts

I DID make it all the way through... do you know ANY teacher who can read half an article and let it go?

LOVE the post, too.  Funny, informative... sorry, you dont need me to grade it, do you?