“Scandal” Spoilers, Updates and Commentary…HERE!

“Scandal” Spoilers, Updates and Commentary…HERE!

The Official BB&W “Scandal” Discussion Thread!

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First off, bookmark this thread.

Second, this is going to be a thread dedicated to “Scandal” because of the insanely high amount of fans we have on this blog who watch the show. Feel free to post your comments, hunches and conspiracy theories, but we’ll only have one rule–if you are discussing the current week’s episode on the same day it airs, please post *********SPOILER************** at the top of your comment so that readers who haven’t yet seen the show– and who have an amount of self-control I can’t comprehend–can choose whether or not they want to be let in on said spoiler.

So, since we’re starting this thread after last week’s action, I’ll start the conversation. Who do you think shot Fitz?

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PaigeinPhilly 368 pts

OK....even I was hurt by Fitz tonite.

Brenda55 21015 pts moderator

 MadamCJCPA Chris started a new thread.  Please post over there. 

Brenda55 21015 pts moderator

The nine days of Scandal Tumbler

 

http://seriouslywtfladyluck.tumblr.com/post/40088274934/on-the-last-da y-before-a-new-episode-of-scandal

Brenda55 21015 pts moderator

 Bellydancer Just saw the clip Fitz wakes up.

Why Millie thought she could get away with trying to pull a Edith Wilson in this day and age is beyond me. 

 

AndreaLThorsen 449 pts

 Bellydancer Thank you for the links! I love spoilers.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

Hahaha Kelly Ripa totally called Tony Goldwyn out  on his "enthusiasm" for his love scenes with Kerry! LMAO, we aren't the only ones noticing how much he loves playing Fitz:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8x6BfvUFAM

They start talking about Scandal at 1:25.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 Bellydancer LOL, someone should tweet these to Tony Goldwyn, I think he'd get a kick out of them! He actually responds a lot to fans.

Bellydancer 789 pts

 dani-BBW  I know somebody should send them to him and I don't have a twitter account.

Bellydancer 789 pts

For the next 3 weeks ABC network will be reairing the last 3 episodes of Scandal until the winter break is over starting 12/27/12. So for those of you who missed the inauguration flashback epi that will air next week 1/3/12.

Bellydancer 789 pts

 Brenda55 Actually this week's episode 1/3/13 will be back to back two hours starting one hour earlier. There will be no Grey's Anatomy this week only two hours of Scandal.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

Here are some SPOILERS for the first two episodes after the break - intriguing!

http://www.tvovermind.com/scandal-2/scandal-spoilers-edison-olivia

MiMikins512 46 pts

Ok.  I know this is way late, but I just have to get this off my heartbroken chest.  First, let's get the pleasantries out of the way.  I love Scandal, though I will admit that if there was no Olivia and Fitz, I probably wouldn't watch.  And from what little I know of her, I like Kerry Washington.  But she has scarred and traumatized me. 

 

I saw her interview with Oprah a couple weeks ago, and really enjoyed it...until Oprah asked who was her most enjoyable romantic scene mate, or kisser, or something to that effect.  Now I expected her to say pretty much what she said--it's work, it's not at all romantic; but the way she said it....The emphasis on how awkward it is wasn't balanced with I'm a pro and it's my job, or who wouldn't enjoy working with such lovely men.  She could have even used my favorite cut and shoot--'They're all so fabulous, how does one choose."  But she seemed a bit repulsed by the fact that she would even be asked.  I half expected to hear an "ew." 

 

Now I understand that she is a professional, and she and others are involved in relationships, and therefore, a certain amount of tact must be shown when talking about such delicate matters (especially if they're actually enjoyable--and I suspect they are).  That being said, there was a lot of ground between tact and what she said that wouldn't have made it difficult to watch Scandal and her scenes with Tony without the having the word awkward blaring in my head.  And that's a shame, because as I said, I love their characters' interaction, and the very convincing way they play them. 

 

I saw Tony's interview on Michael and Kelly and he played it well.  He gave the man answer--who wouldn't be happy...I mean it's Kerry Washington (did anyone notice how the ethnically non-diverse audience was stone quiet when he said that ***side eye in play***)--and then brought it back to being bizarre because of all the onlookers.  There was a balance.  Maybe during the winter break the deleterious effects of that interview will wear off a little.  But I am afraid that I may never be able to look at Olivia and Fitz the same...

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 MiMikins512 I actually think their sex scenes are awkward and kind of stiff. I like everything leading up to the sex act (like Fitz pursuing and kissing Olivia) and there's a lot of chemistry there, but when it comes to actually taking clothes off and simulating sex, they look kind of unnatural. To me. So I was not surprised by her comments.

Brenda55 21015 pts moderator

 dani-BBW  MiMikins512 They look pretty all right to me. 

Brenda55 21015 pts moderator

 MiMikins512 Heard the comments.  I do not think she was specifacally talking about TG/Fitz. She was talking about all of her love scenes with all of her co-stars.

 

That is her.

 

How many women would love to have multiple takes doing those  sex scenes with TG.

 

 I. Know. I. Would. 

 

Fitz kissing down the front of Liv to get those panties off well.................

 

Wonder if he's that good in real life? 

 

 

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 Brenda55  MiMikins512 I think she just doesn't like them. I just saw Lakeview Terrace and her sex scene with Patrick Wilson (also a handsome guy, been kind of under the radar) seemed a bit forced too. 

 

I am not familiar enough with Tony G's work to be able to compare but something tells me IRL he's gettin' it in, LOL! He looks GREAT for his age - no paunch or wrinkles, good physique. 

Brenda55 21015 pts moderator

 dani-BBW  MiMikins512 Heck when you look at it is a slam dunk for him.  

As a married man acting in love scenes is one of the safest ways to do what you kinda always wanted to do and not suffer any adverse consequences. 

 

TG looks like his is really enjoying that brown sugar.  He may have a......ahem leaning in that direction. Never know. 

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 Brenda55  Hahaha, he is pushing it, to me, in his interviews. I get the sense that fame is kind of new to him, though he's been in the biz a long, long time. I hope he doesn't get caught up, he seems like a good person. All of the cast does. They are so positive. I'd be genuinely sad if some sort of scandal broke out in their personal lives. Aside from Kerry, and Tony (outside of fan girls), they seem to all be flying under the radar. I'd hate to see one of them splashed on the front page of TMZ.

Kitt_Kat 112 pts

I finally got to start watching Scandal last night, and it's great! For lack of a better term, it's very... Scandalous(no pun intended), but I'm very excited to watch some more episodes tonight. I think this could become a habit. :)

AndreaLThorsen 449 pts

 Kitt_Kat Are you watching the episodes in order?

Kitt_Kat 112 pts

 AndreaLThorsen Yeah, started with the first and second episodes on Netflix.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 EmilySpring  DeepWater   I do agree the story arc has peaked really early - an attempted assassination in the middle of the second season seems extreme. What are we going to get for season 3 - a nuclear attack? It reminds me a bit of 24, the longer the show went on, the crazier the plots got. It was probably two or three seasons past its usefulness. I really liked 24 Redemption though and thought it was a great way to bring the series back after the strike. Lost is probably a good analogy too. Anyway, I've never expected Scandal to go longer than 4 or 5 seasons.

AndreaLThorsen 449 pts

 dani-BBW  EmilySpring  DeepWater If ABC actually gets behind the show and orders a full season next year, they can take their time and develop plots and characters more effectively. The problems with plotting and pace is an ABC (sabotage?) problem, IMHO.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 AndreaLThorsen  EmilySpring  DeepWater Nah I think it's Shonda who wants several character arcs during a season, she says the show gets boring and stagnates if they slow down the plot. She talks about it here (can't recall which vid in the series it is) - http://moviesshowsnbooks.tumblr.com/post/31735444785/lets-try-this-again-heres-the-first-video.

 

I can't imagine that she has a game plan past three of four seasons at the rate the show is going.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

My computer crashed last week right before Scandal came on! I have been bursting at the seams waiting to talk about last week's episode! First off, it felt kind of choppy and dark and the sex scenes were creepy. I wonder if there was a different director because that episode felt totally different from the fifteen or so prior. Second, I can't wait to see though, how deep the wormhole goes! Third, I didn't like Olivia in the middle of the Huck thing, I can't imagine that happening in real life. Something more plausible would have been for her to call Homeland Security instead and her team keep working to clear his name. Finally, I need Fitz back ASAP to deal with Sally, I love the way he checks her.

 

I am looking forward to more Olitz flashbacks. There's so much more I want to learn about their relationships and their pasts. 

 

I can't WAIT for January 10!

Brenda55 21015 pts moderator

Someone posted this on another site.

For all of you wondering what was under that blanket here you are. Scroll down and find out.

 

http://favoritehunks.blogspot.com/2008/05/favorite-birthday-boy-4-for-may-20th.html?zx=4cb671880d0941ad

Bellatrix79 476 pts

Cocaine and I have the same birthday.  Cunning little Capricorns. Cross us and we'll destroy you.

EmilySpring 286 pts

SCANDAL'S EDISON DAVIS, NORM LEWIS, in Les Miserables... 2011

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSSvH9I1GHI

BeautyIAM 1409 pts

Crazy episode last night. So many weird things started to happen. I wanted so many of my questions to get answers, but I got more questions. AWESOME. So all we can do is speculate. 

 

I already see some people are not liking the direction the show is going. I liked how Shonda addressed this when she was interviewed by Oprah. I like that she said she had to start writing what she wanted and not let the fans run the show, which I think is great because I think when writers try too hard to please a disgruntled crowed, they may shoot themselves in the foot. I think its better for her to go the direction she wants. Some will follow her and some won't. Oh well.  I'm going to see how this plays out. 

Brenda55 21015 pts moderator

BeautyIAM

Say what she wants Shonda really cannot stray too far from what her fans want. No fans = no show.

 

I know that the show cannot be all OLITZ all the time.  That limits the audience and wastes a lot of talented actors. but what we had last night will make the show something on the order of Night Stalker with Darren McGaven. Campy, fun and something of a joke.  If that is what she is going for then fine. Last night's show was crazy and in spots an insult to one's intelligence.

 

BeautyIAM 1409 pts

 Brenda55  BeautyIAM 

 

Oh, I completely agree with you on that Brenda. No fans no show. With Shonda, I don't think she is ever going to let the relationship with Fitz and Liv go. She can't at this point. Their relationship is just too strong.

 

This isn't directed towards anyone on this website, but I have seen whinny fans. They whine about every little thing they don't like and its like seriously, if you don't like it just go. 

 

I was just scratching my head with somethings that were happening in the last episode. I just hope there isn't a jump the shark moment any time soon. Scandal is still growing. 

Brenda55 21015 pts moderator

BeautyIAM

I am not ordinarily a TV watcher.  In fact this is the only show that I am watching.  I am not at all familiar with Shonda Rhime's work but I have read some thing on the boards that tell me that she can jump the shark and things can get rather far fetched.  I mean Ghost sex? WTF? 

 

BeautyIAM 1409 pts

 Brenda55  BeautyIAM 

 

LOL! I forgot about that on Grey's. It wasn't ghost sex per se. I think it was more Izzy's delusions because she had cancer. I just rode along the roller coaster that comes with Shonda's shows. But I did leave Grey's because I was just bored. None of the characters interested me. But I'm happy that its still doing well in the ratings. 

 

DeepWater 2519 pts

 Brenda55  BeautyIAM   Guuuurrrrlll, you remember Night Stalker?   That show was gooooooood, you got that right, it was campy but good criminal fun, imo, lol.

 

I give Ms. Rimes props for doing this show her way.     However it has strayed from its initial offering of an O. Pope and presidential love affair.   Someone said that I'm being "troll-like" here, bwaaaahahahhahaha, in putting the last episode down.    

 

The way I see it Ms. Rimes is working to get ALL of her ideas in these episodes which has become convoluted.    Why was president shot so early in the series, we needed to get to know the love affair more before all the other plots come into play?   Of course, this is what Ms. Rimes wants for her show and who am I to say that she shouldn't?     If this show, in my opinion, goes down the road I believe the show SEEMS to be going, frankly, it will be canceled.    You are correct Brenda55 that, should it continue down this route it will become "camp" as opposed to the presidential and legal thriller that it (may have should?) become.    

 

Some individual says to me that its a show "I don't understand", bwaaaaahhahahahaa,  I understand this, should this show not gain a sense

cohesion in its initial storyline beginnings, it will be headed out the door (because the last episode was WACK!

 

I mean, really, why would anyone care whether some assassins family is killed?   I sure don't.    Why is the president shot so early in the series before we could truly immerse ourselves in their affair before entering into multiple other plotlines?      

 

I truly thought the show had promise with a Black female lead and head writer.

 

I have no sympathy nor empathy for Olivia Pope, I did with her and the the prez which is what should be happening, some type of feelings for her position,  but I don't after prez is shot, because without him as the male lead, there ain't no show, because the focus has turned elsewhere, seemingly, thus loss of interest.   

EmilySpring 286 pts

 DeepWater  Brenda55  BeautyIAM  

 

o_O........but, DEEPWATER... you know the "individual" was me...  and you also know that I said that you clearly don't understand the plotline, which you, again, illustrated in this diatribe above (what assassin's family?).  Not being versed in something you insist on condemning publicly is troll-like.  You don't know even know the character Abby... that...is...crazy.  There is no way you can say you've watched the series, so how can you state that the president was shot too early with any real authority?   As you said elsewhere on this page, you are entitled your opinion, but your opinions are flawed on so many ridiculous levels that others have the right to point that out.  Can you at least know what you're talking about? 

 

Try watching the show, including the first season... that is what I'm saying.  Your opinion doesn't have to change, I wouldn't expect it to, but your arguments will make a whole lot more sense...and yes, I'm sure you don't care about a lot of things, sadly, you've made that abundantly clear.

 

If you want to shit on something, be prepared for someone to come and clean it up.  Signifying... what a waste of time.

DeepWater 2519 pts

 EmilySpring  Brenda55  BeautyIAM 

 

ES, we already agreed to disagree, please leave it there.   You love the show,  I don't.   That simple.  Good luck with it.

DeepWater 2519 pts

 EmilySpring  Brenda55  BeautyIAM   

 

Also, I did not cuss at nor toward you.    I have seen the show from beginning, and once again, you love it and I don't.   Again, good luck with your show.

EmilySpring 286 pts

 DeepWater 

 

... oh boy... I thought we left it there waaaay down on the page, but you decided to post up here (after the fact) to make your case regarding the thoughts of the "individual" posted waaaay down on the page... me.  I simply clarified the "individual" to whom you were referring and restated the basics of why I, the individual, found your posts troll-like since you incorrectly characterized my usage of that term in your most recent post.

 

Re: this deflection and this playing demure bit? It is not very "becoming" of you... with the way you have dropped "WACK", "gtfohwtbs", CAPS and negativity throughout this page, suddenly you're a "shrinking violet"?  *sideeye*  A "cuss word" is nowhere near as offensive as a flawed, infectious, negative philosophy based on a misunderstanding of the facts or something that was not meant for you. 

 

It seems others were not "Blown Away" with the episode either, but your special brand of negativity and clear lack of understanding of the plotline begged for an intervention.

 

If you've seen the show from the beginning, are brazenly negative about "said show" and don't know who Abby is... I mean... that's damning.

 

Yes, please continue to watch the shows you enjoy and I will do the same without negatively perching myself on a benign fan thread of a show that does not interest me, because that is the sane thing to do.

 

Good luck to you as well.  I'm good.

Bellatrix79 476 pts

Why did Becky/Cocaine set up Huck?  She could have done it on her own.  Someone wants to take Huck down and the president...The VP Chief of Staff Billy(?) from season 1 and the secret agent who killed Amanda Tanner perhaps?

 

Why did Huck sleep with her after he found out that she was stalking him?  He should have killed her right then and there on that nasty carpet.

 

 

Bellatrix79 476 pts

I think I recall Huck wanting to do a search on Cocaine, but Olivia said she is just a normal girl blah blah.  Maybe I am remembering incorrectly.

Brenda55 21015 pts moderator

 Bellatrix79 You are remembering correctly.

Here is the problem.  Liv's famous gut is busted. She needs regular beef injections from Fitz to get right. Pudding Pop is not cutting it. Liv damn near got Fitz killed because she is out of wack. 

 

Ms. Kay 428 pts

 Brenda55  Bellatrix79 LMAOOO!! Brenda you are so right "She needs regular beef injections from Fitz to get right"....#DKM!!!

 

LadyLittlefoot 664 pts

 Bellatrix79 Yes, she did tell him not to do the search. I wish he hadn't listened to her on that one. 

 

Olivia I think is a wee bit obsessed with the idea of normalcy in a relationship.