Why I Think Black Women Can’t ‘Slut Walk’

Why I Think Black Women Can’t ‘Slut Walk’

I kinda think I’m going to sit out this one.

Author : Christelyn Karazin

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Last week an author whom I respect BIGTIME, Janine Latus, bestselling author, domestic violence advocate and flaming feminist came on to protest that not all feminists are JEZEBELS. Thanks, Janine, for offering to lie down in the street so I could have the right to swirl. I appreciate that. She’s also a BIG FAN of No Wedding No Womb, so I know FOR SURE she’s on our side.

Pero, es un poquito problemo. She’s active in the ‘slut walk’ campaigns and I had to explain a very hard truth to her: No matter what we wear, black women are labeled “sluts” by default. Here’s what I told her:

Here’s a key difference between white feminists and black womanists–we can’t slut walk, because the media already calls us “bitches” and “hoes.” Black women are often stereotyped as Jezebels (lol) and rape and domestic abuse runs rampant in some areas of the black community. As a white woman, you have a certain level of privilege that black women don’t have, no matter how we dress, our men call us “hoes, tricks and bitches.” It’s sort of like how in the old days when feminism was about women being able to choose to work instead of being stay at home moms in their gilded cages? Black women never, ever, had someone say, “don’t worry your pretty little head.” We only wish. Black women have always had to work–we were the maids (that were the side-pieces for the husbands who freely took advantage because BW couldn’t say “no”), the nannys/mammies, the servers etc. Do you understand what I’m saying? That’s kind of what inspired the Jezebel post–sometimes I feel like white, mainstream feminists simply don’t understand the privileges they have that we will never have, at least in the near future.

Another thing I didn’t mention to her is how black people–for whatever reason, LOVE to blame the victim. Get hit by a bus? “Why yo dumb ass walkin’ in the streets?” Get robbed? “I told you about going to the library.” Get hit? “What did you do?”

So when a black woman is raped by another black man, it’s often her fault for being at the wrong place, smiling at the wrong dude, whatever. You can be an 11-year-old girl who dresses “like a slut” so then you deserve to be raped by a dozen boys.

Slut walks don’t work for black women. A black woman walking down the capital in stripper clothes will invite some serious clowning from black men, who will just laugh and say “Well finally, you embrace what you are. Hoe!

This just isn’t our fight ladies. Maybe when we run out of stuff to protest against, this is going to have to go on the waiting list because we’ve got more pressing, life or death issues that we’re battling with virtually no support from any outside organization. We’re out on our own in a blizzard, no shoes, long pajamas with a torn out ass-flap.

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Sadly some people jump on the bandwagon for activist work rather than lead, they choose to follow the current hype to gather interest in their own causes. While it works for sure it's sure to fail in the end. You have to hold your cause above all else otherwise it'll always be second place in the mind of others. As far as the slut walk thing goes there is nothing wrong with displaying your self sexually and provocatively just do it in the bedroom. Like Luda said "we want a lady in the street but a freak in the bed."

Sounds like you're saying men have no personal responsibility towards their action - Men cannot control themselves? - so much so that she should bring another wardrobe??

@Corliss wrote: "Be smart. If you’re dressing sexy but not with a boyfriend or group of girls, always carry a more conservative blouse, longer skirt or pair of slacks/jeans in your car or large purse in case you change your mind and don’t feel so comfortable about your surroundings or decide you no longer feel like being sexy. Expecting men not to react to sexy attire is like expecting drug addicts not to get high or teens not to have sex. You know it’s gonna happen no matter what you do."

Um, no. This is the same attitude that has ruined the black community, placing the (lack) of responsibility of the actions of men-on women.

Regardless of race, the whole Slut Walk issue is stupid. Yes, it's unfair for any woman to have to worry about being gawked at or harassed for dressing sexy but that's how our society works. Men are visual creatures. I don't care if I know a woman is a stone cold lesbian dyke. If I see her in a mini skirt and low cleavage blouse with some sexy pumps, I'm gonna look and might even fantasize about hitting it and probably send a harmless but hopeful flirt her way if she looks good. But there are other less civilized men who will attack a woman who dresses that way. Im not saying the woman is asking to be sexually assaulted. Im just saying, dressing sexy is a trigger for the average heterosexual man and they will all react in different ways. Women who dress a certain way do so at their own risk. There's a certain amount of common sense that needs to go into how a woman shows herself in public.

I see so many women walking around in heels too high and uncomfortable for their feet or in skirts so short that they themselves are constantly pulling the hem down as if they wished the dress was longer. You knew that skirt was too short when you left the house but you wanted to look sexy, so now you have to deal with it until you get back home. Be smart. If you're dressing sexy but not with a boyfriend or group of girls, always carry a more conservative blouse, longer skirt or pair of slacks/jeans in your car or large purse in case you change your mind and don't feel so comfortable about your surroundings or decide you no longer feel like being sexy. Expecting men not to react to sexy attire is like expecting drug addicts not to get high or teens not to have sex. You know it's gonna happen no matter what you do.

Parapharsing an old saying...

It is not what people call you but, what you answer to.

Case closed.

I'll repeat for the third, and last time on this topic (twice on this thread, once on the first thread)
Take back the night-Yes
Slut Walk -Hell No!!

http://www.takebackthenight.org/history.html

http://tothecurb.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/slutwalk-a-stroll-through-white-supremacy/

I want to say that it makes me truly sick that Black women & girls do not have the freedom to express themselves however they see fit the way other races of women & girls do, White ones in particular.

My views on this Slutwalk business are that I agree 100% that the blaming of victims of rape/sexual assualt is just plain wrong and should never be done. By having this march, I get what these women are trying to say. As it pertains to Black women, I would not feel comfortable with Black women taking part in it because I know too many idiots would be foaming at the mouth to scream: "Look at them thar Black girls, marching to be sluts! I told ya they aint's no good!" or "Man sistas be on some bs! Now they slut walkin, s**t like that makes a brotha not wanna date sistas" Also, White feminists have shown time and time again that they do not have Black women's back, and once crap like my examples started, I have no doubt that they would distance themselves from the very sistas who walked by their sides. So I cannot endorse any Black woman taking part in it, but I would not attack her for it, just feel bad for what she is getting herself into.

But rape/sexual assualt against Black women & girls are a huge problem that needs to be addressed, and I am in complete agreement with the other sistas here who say Black women need to find another way to highlight that problem rather than slutwalks, because like has been pointed out already, White women can do whatever they please and be protected by their White female privelege.

Keisha, LOVE your gun walk idea! That would teach the BW/G-hating garbage in the hood a thing or two!

Agreed, the GunWalk thing sounds great. It's a peaceful, powerful flexing of muscle that gets across a very simple idea-- "We are not easy prey, mess with us if you want to, but you're playing Russian roulette and the one you pick might make you into chunky salsa. Feel lucky, punk? :)"

As an afterthought: If it's going to make some neanderthal think twice about terrorizing, maiming, or killing someone's mother, wife, sister, or daughter, I'm all for it.

"and the one you pick might make you into chunky salsa. Feel lucky, punk? ”

LOL, love it!

As a woman who volunteered at a rape crisis center for 10 years, I was outraged at Const. Michael Sanguinetti's remarks. Of all people who ought to know better! I also think that he should have been fired. But SlutWalk - INEFFECTIVE. Why not set up education in schools for preteen/teen girls so they are clear this is nonsense. Raise money to produce/air public service announcements. Contribute to rape crisis centers. I don't participate in SlutWalks not because I'm black, but because my time is precious and don't want it wasted.

Thank you I agree with you 100%. That's exactly my point @greenapple1999.

Monique you totally nailed this issue. .

Point one: "Should BW be concerned about sexual violence and rape? Absolutley. Is a slut walk the most effective means to bring light to that issue and how it affects BW and BG, specifically? I don’t think so."

Point two: "Lastly, as stated earlier, BW have much bigger fish to fry than reclaiming and redefining the word slut. I think we need to focus our energies more on refining our image as simply WOMEN first and foremost. We should be having marches about the lack of media coverage when BW and BG go missing and the police do nothing about it? Where are our white female “allies” then? We should be doing little fundraisers and walks for more research regarding fibroids, for instance. These fuckers affect the lives and reproductive abilities of many black women, yet very little research is done to figure out why we get them more than other races and what effective treatments can be done to alleviate some of the pain related to fibroids. We should be focusing on building our wealth as black women. That is where our energies should be,IMO…engaging in activities that directly and specifically uplifts the lives of BW."

Point three:"I understand and suppport the idea of a slut walk, but I’ll take a cue from my white female feminist “sisters” and stay my round brown ass home…cuz this ain’t my fight."

Again as far as I am concerned the slut walk is fighting a cosmetic battle rather than a real one

You've voiced everything that I was thinking, but in a nice way Brenda55. I have to say that I don't know what the heyal these chicks are smokin to think that a black woman should put a big fire engine red sign on themselves by being apart of a slut walk. And if this same black woman lives in a ghetto community would it be so far fetched for her to be abducted, abused, and/or killed because she was witnessed by the wrong damn people during her support of white woman being able to wear whatever they want without being called a whore for it? Think about that black women. Don't be foolish!!!

Oops, instead of sign I meant target*. Oh dear. nigh night.

Hear, hear Monique on ALL counts.

Hear, hear!

IMO, Take Back The Night is great, but SlutWalks are a bad idea for any woman of any race.
What kind of logic is that-- you called me a slut, so I'll dress like one to spite you? What? Why would you want to?
It's like those topless feminist "protests".
Just a free eye-candy parade. Which does nothing to help the cause.
In fact, it kind of HELPS people see you as pieces of meat.
Showing your body does not demonstrate how comfortable you are with it, nor does it give a sense of "I have the right to show whatever amount of skin I want".
You're just exposing yourself to the general populace, a counterproductive measure if I ever saw one.

First, I will not be participating in any slutwalks. I agree with Christelyn's comment above. As most of the women here know, because of the need to propogate and defend enslavement and colonization, the Black female body and Black female sexuality has been characterized as "animalistic", "deviant", "uninhibted", "unnatural". Enslaved Black women in the Americas and the Caribbean were owned by their white slave masters and this included their sexual expression and reproduction. To justify the mass rape and sexual abuse of Black women during this time, BW had to be the temptresses, the seductresses, the amoral, loose sluts who tempted their upstanding, Christian white male owners to do the unspeakable. This belief system permeated the slave system and it was supported and encouraged by many white women, because they were the ones who saw the offspring of their husband's infidelity, or their son's/father's sexual brutality and it was so much easier fo them to blame BW than curtail the actions of their men.

BW have always been blamed for whatever ails society as we are generally the least powerful and the least likely to have the means to fight back.

WW can afford to be sluts figuratively or literally. White skin privlege gives them the ability to do so. Because White skin privilege deems them virtuous and pristine, the epitome of feminitiy and womanhood...no matter how debase and sexaully loose they may behave. Black women are already viewed as sexually debased and loose. Why would I want to associate with an activity that feeds that particular stereotype of BW?

Secondly, let's not conflate differnet issues. CAN a BW march in a slut walk? Sure, she has freedom of choice, she has agency, she can do anything she wants. SHOULD a BW march in a slutwalk? IMO, no, she should not. Relcaiming and redefining the word slut should not be an activity BW should engage in...how does that benefit her as a BW? Should BW be concerned about sexual violence and rape? Absolutley. Is a slut walk the most effective means to bring light to that issue and how it affects BW and BG, specifically? I don't think so.

Lastly, as stated earlier, BW have much bigger fish to fry than recaliming and redefining the word slut. I think we need to focus our energies more on refining our image as simply WOMEN first and foremost. We should be having marches about the lack of media coverage when BW and BG go missing and the police do nothing about it? Where are our white female "allies" then? We should be doing little fundraisers and walks for more research regarding fibroids, for instance. These fuckers affect the lives and reproductive abiliites of many black women, yet very little research is done to figure out why we get them more than other races and what effective treatments can be done to alleviate some of the pain related to fibroids. We should be focsing on building our wealth as black women. That is where our energies should be,IMO...engaging in activities that directly and specifically uplidts the lives of BW. I understand and suppport the idea of a slut walk, but I'll take a cue from my white female feminist "sisters" and stay my round brown ass home...cuz this ain't my fight.

i am never going to tell a black woman that they cant do it, but i believe they shouldn't. as one female on this blog said white women are viewed as individuals, other ethnicities esp. us black people are seen as a group or whole, thus the generalization. furthermore the word slut cannot be redefined, the girl who sleeps around with everybody and is easy is going to be classified as just a girl expressing her sexuality but is going to be seen as what?? a slut, a whore. when it comes to certain things, white women and black women dont share the same privileges. Even though Kim K made that sex tape she is still seen as wife material but alot of men even brothers. hello baby girl getting married soon. let she have been a sister.

oh do guys remember Girls Gone Wild, who were mainly on those videos? white women. picture that same series being filled with alot of sisters, i am pretty sure the outcome would be different. the whole black community

Jumps into this post waving hands and screaming yes!! Thanks for this timely article!

I have taken these quotes directly from the article: Cop apologizes for ‘sluts' remark at law school

1.) “ A police officer who suggested women can avoid sexual assault by not dressing like “sluts” has apologized, saying he is “embarrassed” by the remark and that assaulted women are “not victims by choice.”
“I made a comment which was poorly thought out and did not reflect the commitment of the Toronto Police Service to the victims of sexual assaults,” Const. Michael Sanguinetti wrote on Thursday to Osgoode Hall Law School where he made the comment.
“Violent crimes such as sexual assaults can have a traumatizing effect on their victims. . . . My comment was hurtful in this respect.”

2.) “The apology was attached to an email distributed to the “Osgoode community” by law school dean Lorne Sossin who said they’ve been told the officer “is being disciplined and will be provided with further professional training.”

3.) “Toronto Police spokeswoman Meaghan Gray said cautioning women on their state of dress is not part of any police training.
“In fact, this is completely contradictory to what officers are taught,” she said. “They are taught that nothing a woman does contributes to a sexual assault.”

Please note the last quote. We fought this battle before. The people in power who can affect the lives of women know what this fool said was wrong, they do not stand behind it, have disciplined him and have stated that this is not the standard of practice for training police officers.
Now what the hell more are these marches supposed to accomplish??????????

This is America, I can do whatever the fuck i want, that includes "Slut Walking." But I choose not to, because I think its stupid. This is a news coverage from one of my favourite online shows, The Young Turks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN2ZJ_02FwY
Reads some of the comments, and see how "privileged" white women are being torn a new asshole, by some of the men.

To quote one of the posters: "This is fucking stupid and accomplishes nothing."

Another quote:

"The only ways to combat rape is pepper spray or a gun/knife (sorry, thats the world we live in). Not some shitty little protest where fat ugly trolls unite to show off their saggy tits and gorilla ass"

Let me remind you thats its mostly WW at these protest, and most of these comments are probably from WM.

This msg could not have been any more correct. I find that white men especially think this for some strange reason (at least the ones I know). I don't date (but prefer white men) and this kind of stuff, which I observed a long time ago, makes me wary. Also, black people are notorious for blaming the victim. Case in point: There was some huge stirrings on my moms friends street a few years ago where a wife came home to find her husband and their daughter naked and sleeping in the same bed. It was found out that (obviously) the father had been sexually abusing his daugher since she was a child (she was 16 at the time). It is interesting to note that immediately, people blamed the daughter (they are a white family). Well, let me tell you, I ripped into these idiots when I found out about the event and they were blaming the daughter. I made it clear that obviously this kind of nasty abuse has been going on for years and the father ruined his daughters life (funnily enough, the mother screamed and blamed the daughter-really!). By the time I finished, they were all shamefaced. To think they blamed a child for the disgusting actions of her father. He obviously normalized his sexual behavior with his daughter enough for her to fall asleep in the bed. So in this case, the white girl was blamed but once again, the victim was blamed. Although I see this a lot in black culture, I do think society in general does this.

Calm Down Ya'll Derek J will do the slut walk for us. (lol)

http://bossip.com/441473/are-you-feeling-these-get-ups-derek-j-and-eva-marcille-put-their-thighs-on-display-for-hair-battle-spectacular-premier12006/derek-j-5/

Sorry if this posted comes up twice. I had an error message the first time.

Okay, I should preface this by saying I actually live in the police division where Const. Michael Sanguinetti works. I strongly believe he is an idiot, the comment he made was dumb, and he is stuck in his own old school mentality about women.

Anyone who talks/writes about the slut walk should first read the article and understand the context of it(You are welcome)

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/940665--cop-apologizes-for-sluts-remark-at-law-school

I don't really understand why I (or BW in general) should not participate in the "Slut Walk"? I could be walking home from the gym wearing a pair of yoga pants and a runner's tank top and still receive cat call's from men. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those men think I'm was a slut because the way I was dressed. There are black women who do not dress like the girl in the picture above and still can be a victim of sexual assault.

Also, I need to mention this quote sorta rubbed me the wrong way. Chris said "So when a black woman is raped by another black man, it’s often her fault for being at the wrong place, smiling at the wrong dude, whatever". Whatever? Really? Sexual assault is a serious matter. I think you need to include in your blog entry that the majority of sexual assaults that do occur, the victim and the accused are known to each other than a random stranger.

Here are two Canadian stats reports (I know, I know) talk to that specific point. Both files are PDF format. (Yes, this situation can be looked at as a Canadian vs US mentality but I want to put the info out there)

www.peirsac.org/peirsacui/er/educational_resources22.pdf (last point on the resource sheet on the 2nd page)

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85f0033m/85f0033m2008019-eng.pdf (page 13)

I know some folks may complain that both reports do not classify:
a) the "type" of the assault
b)the race the assault happened/committed to.

I think the Canadian justice system sees any type of assault, sexual/physical in nature, is a crime no matter how major or minor it is and race shouldn't play a factor. (If you want to know how Canadian justice system defines "sexual assault" it is on page 7 in the second report)

I guess the main point of writing this comment is: shouldn't we be protesting the fact that no one should be a victim of sexual assault no matter what they wear? Don't we need to change the culture of what some women and men think of who/what is a slut?

I think BW can and should find something MORE productive to do with their time. How about a NWNW Walk, now that's something that hits the BC HARD everyday. If people want to help rape victims volunteer at the Woman's Shelters, donate money to help those victims get the help they need to overcome this tragic event, I'm sure there are also OTHER anti-rape Marches one can participate in with a MUCH better meaning then SLUT WALK.

And I think what Chris meant was if a BW was raped it doesn't have to be about what she was wearing but where she was at, who she smiled to, etc. it would still be considered HER Fault (even if the woman was wearing her Church clothes).

I don't claim to know what slut walks are, so I googled the term and read wikipedia, basically according to wikipedia slut walks were started in Canada because a Canadian police officer said women should avoid dressing like sluts to avoid getting raped. This thinking is very common in sexist societies which blame women for their victimization. Thus slut walks were started in response.

You write that black women are already seen as sluts and that "black men" will yell at black women doing slut walks that they are hoes, but slut walks are specifically done to show the absurdity of that notion. It takes regular women with regular jobs, wives, girlfriends, sisters, daughters, grandmothers, and says here are hundreds or thousands of women dressed like sluts, do they deserve to be raped and are they now sluts for wearing that clothing?

So the idea that a political rally will hurt black women's "image" is nonsense.

Black women don't have an "image" problem. They have a racism and sexism problem.

I can understand why any women or any person would object to walking around in their underwear though.

I read the same wiki that you did. My response is posted above.

I agree with this statement:

"Black women don’t have an “image” problem. They have a racism and sexism problem."

That is what I mean by bigger fish to fry.

Who or what are these women marching against? Marches work against institutions and act towards political change. What political change or institution are these women trying to effect? These women have their panties in a twist over a statement some low level Toronto police office made. The whole thing is stupid IMO.

Looks to me that a lot of old line feminist have hitched their wagon to this "movement" as a way of regaining relevance.

I have ambivalent thoughts about slut walks.

I don't know what the organizers of slut walks want to accomplish because I don't really know much about slut walks and who organizes those walks.

My response was based on the idea that a black woman shouldn't slut walk because a black woman doesn't have the same problem as any other woman getting blamed for being a victim of rape because of the way they dressed.

I think in fact rape and the idea that a woman asked for it, based on how she dressed or where she was or what she said or what she did, can be a concern for black women because those things are said about black rape victims as well.

In fact, in her own post the author hinted that black people like to blame the victim in sexually assaults, which is precisely the kind of thinking that I think slut walks are aimed at challenging.

But if any woman doesn't want to slut walk, I understand.

"Black women don’t have an 'image' problem. They have a racism and sexism problem."

^^^^THAT.

And the purpose of all -isms is to prevent a person's freest, fullest expression of oneself. This is why I will never say that a black woman "can't" do anything. I don't accept the premise that a black woman is limited in ANY capacity as far as what SHE does. As for the consequences that society heaps on her for what she does...that's a different story lol. But I don't see those consequences as a valid enough deterrent to doing WHATEVER fulfills you (even if it's something that I DON'T agree with, like SlutWalk). "Can't" is a subtle but pervasive slippery slope. If all black women internalized the belief that black women were limited in any capacity, there would be no black female racecar drivers or punk rockers or astrophysicists or bw married to non-bm (ha!). This is why I'm so adamantly opposed to speaking the language of can't-onese. It might seem like semantic nitpicking to some, but I believe that words have the power to shape worlds if you wield them consciously. (Heck, this blog is a testament to that!)

Do I personally see anything beneficial coming from participating in a SlutWalk? No, but I don't begrudge any Black woman participating, EVEN if she knows that some of the consequences may be negative for her. There's no disillusionment if you go in with your eyes wide open.

Frankly, I see a SlutWalk as a more misguided version of Take Back the Night, and the organizers didn't really think it through how the implications of the term Slut may be different for brown women, which tells me that their feminist consciousness has not made it past their internalized privilege.

I agree.

I think a person has to recognize that yes black women will often be judged differently for taking the same actions as other women, but on issues of great importance to that individual black woman, they might have to deal with the blowback because their actions don't fit what other deem is okay for black women to do.

Now in the real world a woman especially concerning her career or physical safety may have to say or think to herself "if I take this action at this time can it hurt me in a devastating way"?

So I kind of understand why a woman would have the idea that some actions other women can do are off limits to black women because of how racist and sexist people can be towards black women.

But when it comes to group or political actions that are collective in nature, then such concerns have to put aside. In fact political action should be used to challenge those ideas that says that black women should be judged and treated differently for doing what other women are doing.

I agree with your post for the most part. I would never say that a bw "CAN"T" do anything. If she chooses to participate in the Slutwalks, then she should be aware of the double standards and how it could impact her. I actually do not think is a bad thing, having done some background research. Despite the name - which some people can't seem to get past - the objective is sound: stop blaming women for being raped. That is the ultimate premise of the walk. Being raped has absolutely nothing to do with what you are wearing, like many people in society seem to think. The cop's remark was merely a catalyst, not the objective of the walk. It's ironic, because black girls who are molested and raped hear this from their rapists and family every day, so RayRay can get off the hook. Anyway, I am digressing. If a bw chose to participate, she can do so. She also doesn't have to wear stripper gear to get her point across. There are consequences to everything, and given the double standards in this society, the consequences for her wearing a stripper get up is different than it would be for a ww. That is a fact.

Thank you for addressing this, Chris. I completely agree with you on this one. BW can't "Slut Walk". We don't have the societal protections to embrace such a negative title. For example, I know a WW who did underage drinking, got pregnant at age 18, and thankfully the man in question married her. They're still married to this day. I really don't think that she understands that because of her privilege, she could do some under age ho'ing, but still be wife material and come out smelling like roses. So, no Slut Walk for me. I was told a long time ago by my mother that I can't go off acting like WG/WW because the rules do not apply to me and I would be labeled a whore for life if I did the same things. I knew WG who slept with every boyfriend they had and did everything under the sun with these guys and they still were able to become respectable women when they got good and damn ready. Do I have a chip on my shoulder about this? Well, no. I know the deal and I act accordingly. I'm no slut. So I won't dress like one to make a point. BW have more important things to do.

A Toronto Constable Michael Sanguinetti makes a dumb statement at a public forum saying that to remain safe, "women should avoid dressing like sluts” and it blows up to this? The man has since apologized for what he said and that should have been the end of it.

The co-founders of the first Slut Walk "Sonya Barnett and Heather Jarvis decided to use the word slut in their response to this one police officer who said something stupid. They observe that historically, "slut" has had negative connotations, and that their goal is to redeem the term." Say what? I'm supposed to march for that?

Please read the rest of this wiki and then make up your own minds to see if this nonsense is worth your while. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlutWalk

Seems to me that a lot of young women with too much time on their hands and few real problems to deal with were itching for a cause and created a “happening”.

Black Women have bigger fish to fry than to re-fight a battle already won. I am not marching for something so divorced from real world living like attempting to change the negative connotation of a silly word. Don't. Waste. My. Time. Not when Black women have the piss poor quality of life many of us have. I agree with Chris on this one. Hold your fire and keep your powder dry for a battle that actually means something not this cosmetic one.

In absolute agreement with everything you said Christelyn!

Black women cannot participate in the slut walk because as most of you stated white women are protected by white privilege. Black women are not. Black women who think that they can get away with doing everything that a white women does is disallusioned.

I had never even heard of a "slut walk" until I started reading this blog so thanks for getting me up to speed. This is definitely not my cup of tea but I never judge anyone and if WW, BW, AW or any other woman wants to do this, more power to them. I wouldn't recommend it for the reasons stated above but I would never judge either. Frankly, I think we should have the "gun walk" or "don't eff with me" walk. I carry a weapon and I know how to use it; I am qualified on every level and I have the legal right, in Virginia, to conceal carry with reciprocity in many states. I know the cops would never allow us to walk with guns but I absolutely refuse to be a victim and have taken it upon myself to learn self-protection. I also practice martial arts. The bottom line is that if a man wanting to commit ill-will against my person and comes at me, he'd better know the phrase, "center of mass". I know many people don't agree with my stance but that's okay. Luckily, living in this country, I have the choice and this is what I've chosen. I've been around guns all my life with my dad, who taught us to shoot when we were kids. I was in the military for 22 years and was a sharpshooter who competed. My mother, who is 75, has guns. Since the death of my dad, she has lived alone and has said she will not be a victim either. That's the choice we made. And no, I'm not a Republican...

Karla: "I know many people don’t agree with my stance but that’s okay. Luckily, living in this country, I have the choice and this is what I’ve chosen."

I agree with you. Unfortunately, some of us live in states (like NY) where private gun ownership is not possible for most people. I want to leave NYS and I am seriously considering moving to a state with more liberal gun ownership laws because I am tired of being afraid.

Even though I live in a very safe, upper class area, I still have to go into the city and I cannot completely avoid the DBR and criminal men.

I would like to add that I too am not a republican

I totally agree with you. Being able to take care of yourself is very important. I also plan on teaching my children about guns (safety first of course), how to shoot, and really get them into protecting yourself. I'm not a Republican either, but I'm also not a Democrat.

Karla, I'm not a Republican, either, and I agree with you.

Although, in terms of a "gun walk" as you suggest, I think it would be legal for a bunch of black women to walk through a bad neighborhood in a state like FL or VA displaying a holstered sidearm. Holstered, but in plain view, and it would have to be a sidearm that you legally owned. It's a great idea, actually. I just think it would be hard to get enough BW that own a gun to do it.

Kitty - that's why I bought a gun, trained, got a carry permit, etc. I was just so tired of being afraid. Fear is draining. Fear taxes you, mentally and physically. I'm not afraid anymore and it's a liberating feeling.

Kitty:

Just one thing as an addendum; if you're going to move to a state that is more friendly to private gun ownership and the right to carry a concealed weapon, choose carefully. I live in North FL, as most of the regular readers are aware, and it is not very friendly to BW-WM swirling. The carry law is great, but the attitudes towards BW dating interracially are not.

Some of the white people here don't like it, but they don't say anything or harass you; almost all of the black people here don't like it, and a few of them (male and female) will say something and harass you if you're by yourself.

I'm just mentioning it because I don't want to see you trade out one kind of problem for a new problem. If I had a choice, I'd go for the happy medium, like where Karla lives - VA is friendly towards BW dating out if you're around DC from what I hear, AND, the laws there give a BW ample opportunity to protect herself with a firearm.

I'll shut up about this now so I don't derail this post about slut-walks.

I agree. VA is really a great state to live if you're already in a relationship and believe it or not, I see more BW/WM couples down near Fredericksburg out and about with their kids. My family blends right in. I believe that VA has been ranked one of the most "free" states in the Union. Sorry to contribute with the derailment of the conversation.

Just say no to the slut walk!!!

Oops! Forgot my link!

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/hampshire-south-dakota-ranked-free-states/story?id=13791773

Now back to the anti-slut walk conversation.

Thanks for the info, Pam in Fl.

No I would not move to a state simply because gun laws are more liberal. I want to leave where I am because it is not a good area for IR with BW/WM and it is dead-end in other ways as well. This part of the state is ultra-conservative and even the WM who are interested in BW are reluctant to date/marry them.

Pam in FL said:

"Although, in terms of a “gun walk” as you suggest, I think it would be legal for a bunch of black women to walk through a bad neighborhood in a state like FL or VA displaying a holstered sidearm. Holstered, but in plain view, and it would have to be a sidearm that you legally owned. It’s a great idea, actually. I just think it would be hard to get enough BW that own a gun to do it."

I say:

Boy, can you imagine this? Think about 20 black women walking down the middle of the street in the center of worst part of the "hood", and all of them with a pistol strapped to their side. They're all dressed in casual clothes, and none of them are saying anything, they're all silent, and the one in front is carrying a big sign that reads, "We will defend ourselves against RAPISTS".

They're not there to police the neighborhood, they're just stating that they are black women that will defend themselves against sexual predators.

Hah, if there's a film crew there, I guarantee that that video will be all over cable news, network news and the internet immediately. Forget the slut walk, the "gun walk" by black women will be the big news item.

We would just have to make sure it remained a silent, short protest, because we wouldn't want to contribute to the perception of black women being strident, aggressive, masculine women. We just want to get the message across that we're not going to stand for any kind of sexual assault, and that for you men that engage in this criminal behavior towards us, well, you've been warned.

I know it will never happen, but wouldn't it be great? Oh, my head is spinning just thinking about it!