Bloggers Continue to Take Jabs at Black Women Who Prefer Interracial Dating

Bloggers Continue to Take Jabs at Black Women Who Prefer Interracial Dating

Black women catch so much flack for seeking interracial relationships. Now black bloggers are targeting K. Michelle and her unapologetic preference for white men.

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K.Michelle, singer and a reality TV star on the VH1 show ‘Love and HipHop,’ has done an interview in which she said, among other things, that she currently prefers dating white men. I’m not surprised. But then again, I’m one of those people that doesn’t get surprised no matter who a person tells me they prefer to date–”I prefer white men” or “I prefer black men” or “I prefer white women” etc.,–because it all pretty much sounds the same to me. You would have to tell me something truly weird, like about some fetish you have, if you wanted to raise my eyebrows.

But still, in today’s social climate, for a black women to openly admit that she prefers to date any group of men besides black men is going to cause some waves. And if that same woman has also alleged that she was physically abused in the past by a black ex-boyfriend then you can expect for some people people to insinuate that the only reason said woman dates white men is because she had a rough time dating black men before. Truthfully speaking, that is why some black women choose to date non-black men: They have had it up to here with black men and have found that non-black men treat them better. Whether or not ‘having it up to here with black men’ is the reason why K.Michelle has chosen to date non-black men hasn’t yet been revealed, so for the moment I’ll refrain from speculation on her motives.

In a piece titled “White Men Are Not Your Only Dating Solution,” writer Demetria L. Lucas questions how women like K.Michelle could claim prefer one race/ethnicity of men over the other:

So I’m clear, there’s nothing wrong with having preferences, and certainly nothing wrong with liking white guys or any other color guys. And do I appreciate that unlike so many conversations on interracial dating, K. Michelle’s didn’t devolve in an opportunity to throw another group of men under the bus to justify what she “prefers.” Still, I find it troubling that K. Michelle and women like her tout a preference for a trait so general that it tells you little to nothing about the actual subject. Is it white swimmers that she likes? White junkies? White republicans? White hipsters? Or is it just the “White” in whatever form it comes that she “prefers”?

Would such a series of questions ever be asked of a Japanese women if she had said she preferred to date Japanese men? Can you imagine a black women being asked to explain why she prefers to date black men? Or can a Muslim be questioned regarding their preference to date other Muslims? “Muslim,” “black,” and “Japanese” are all very broad categories, yet I don’t think that anyone would find it curious that a Muslim wanted to date a Muslim or a black women preferred to date a black man.

Anyone who had dated people from a multitude of backgrounds will find that certain groups do have tendencies to behave in certain ways. Trying to pretend otherwise is an attempt to ignore reality. Yes, men are men and women are women; there are good people of all races, colors, and creeds, but if a women realizes that she has better luck in the relationship department with a particular race, color, or ethnicity of men, then it would completely understandable for her to develop a preference for that type of man.

Off of this blog, I have had black women who date non-black men tell me–point blank–that they received better treatment on average while involved with non-black men. Back in the 90′s it made waves when singer Madonna said that she had never been treated more dis-respectfully than at the hands of the black men she had dated–yet, Madonna kept right on dating black and Latino men, two groups that she seemed to prefer, despite marrying two white men. I also know of a woman who is mixed–black mother, Latino father–who prefers dating black men because she feels that they treat her better than Latino men.

Personally, I like ‘em tall, dark, and handsome. Sure, that’s a pretty broad physical description of what I prefer in a man, but at the same time is it specific enough to almost certainly exclude large blocs of men from consideration for my affections. But at the same time there is always room to make exceptions to the rule.

At the end of the day we all have our preferences when it comes to what we want in a person whom we date. And preferring a certain set of physical characteristics over another is no more valid or invalid than any other choice. As long as the contents (i.e., the moral and personal characteristics you seek) are present, the packaging is a matter of personal taste.
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Jamila Akil is a senior editor at Beyond Black and White. Follow her on Twitter @jamilaakil or email her at jamilathewriter-at-gmail-dot-com.

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Sue Z 13 pts

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/us/two-classes-in-america-divided-by-i-do.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&

 

This article is just saying what you already know: Estimates vary widely, but scholars have said that changes in marriage patterns — as opposed to changes in individual earnings — may account for as much as 40 percent of the growth in certain measures of inequality. Long a nation of economic extremes, the United States is also becoming a society of family haves and family have-nots, with marriage and its rewards evermore confined to the fortunate classes.“It is the privileged Americans who are marrying, and marrying helps them stay privileged,” said Andrew Cherlin, a sociologist at Johns Hopkins University.

 

I would like to toss out a couple more sentences from the article that are worth talking about: Across Middle America, single motherhood has moved from an anomaly to a norm with head-turning speed. (That change received a burst of attention this year with the publication of Charles Murray’s new book, “Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010,” which attributed the decline of marriage to the erosion of values, rather than the decline of economic opportunity.)

 

I know these thoughts are a little off topic, but perhaps someday you could write about these thoughts - the decline of marriage because of the erosion of values and the effect of that on families and children - and open up that for discussion. 

 

 

Honestly who cares if k michelle now prefers to date white men, people can chose to date who they want.

I at this moment in my life prefer to date a man who isn't black, basically anything but so mixed, latino, asian or white. Note I said prefer, if i met an amazing black man I wouldn't rule out dating them, I just haven't had good experiences dating black men and quite frankly fancy a change and think most of my exes have fitted a mold of tall & dark skinned so quite frankly I fancy a change. I'm one of those women who likes to mix it up with dating & not fall into having a type.

Blackberry 1177 pts

I prefer not to care who others prefer (race, religion or gender) so long as everyone involved is a consenting adult. Everyone on this blog is fairly open minded, but as a practical matter is seems like A LOT of work to care about who other people date/marry. One interesting point you made was that no one would ever ask why a Japanese woman is attracted to Japanese man (or any other same race couple). Somehow people think the others who behave differently have to justify themselves to other people. If you can't give the "right" answer about why you love/like someone then people feel they have a right to say your relationship is less than. "oh Latinos treat you better....don't dismiss your whole race because you once dated a loser! You need to get over your feelings of self-loathing!" the whole thing is ridiculous.

iHeartLove 804 pts

"Still, I find it troubling that K. Michelle and women like her tout a preference for a trait so general that it tells you little to nothing about the actual subject. Is it white swimmers that she likes? White junkies? White republicans? White hipsters? Or is it just the “White” in whatever form it comes that she “prefers”?"

 

This line of thinking could apply equally to women who say they have a preference for Black Men. That's equally general... Most of the time comments or analysis like the quote above come from a place of fear. Fear that there are BW redefining what it is to be a BW and that you are not a part of that. There are many BW who cloister together because they never tried to live life outside of the Black community bubble.

 

 

 

 

Come on out I say, the swirling waters are fine ;) There is nothing to be afraid of. You won't lose yourself, your identity, your African/African American-ness or your blackness. There are plenty of rainbeau men out there who find BW beautiful and desirable even when they haven't found the courage to say so or to pursue that brown beauty they're crushing on. You might meet one them, with a bit of effort of course. 

 

 

 

 

This kind of message cannot be put out enough- that swirling will not stop you from being who you are, a Black woman. Don't laugh. It's true. As natural as swirling is to us here in the BBW community many BW, including some lurkers and ALL trolls (who can't help but troll because they are so entrenched in the fear), find swirling a foreign and frightening idea. They're scared. 

dasdbobb 1383 pts

Ladies, and Gents.  A friend of mine sent me this link, i'm not quite sure, but the way i read it is the fights, and repression BW who want to get out of Blackistan have to deal with.  Correct me if i am wrong please!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AygETHUAZY

 

Thanks!  Bob

DeepWater 2464 pts

 dasdbobb  How you doin?  Love, love, love this video and this SOUL song "I Don't Care", it's fantastic with an awesome message, I already commented on the "We're Living In A Brave New World: Elle Verner "I Don't Care" Video Tells OUR Truth" post from Ms. Karazin.   A beautiful young woman singing REAL SOUL, so so so refreshing, how beautiful the video is and its awesome message of love coming in a variety of colors (and ways).  Love, love, love it.

MySmile 4175 pts

 dasdbobb There is an article on this blog about this song/ video :-D

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

"Still, I find it troubling that Kanye Crapper and men like him tout a preference for a trait so general that it tells you little to nothing about the actual subject. Is it white swimmers that he likes? White junkies? White republicans? White hipsters? Or is it just the “White” in whatever form it comes that he “prefers”?"

 

Hmm. I have NEVER heard anyone write about "what kind of white woman does he prefer talk" anybody... suspicious? WELL HELL YEAH WE ARE! LOL Sexism?

Joyce345 1738 pts

 TheZitaZitomihr 

I believe this might be a form of what Halima calls racio-misogyny. WW in IR = true love but BW in IR = something else. I may be wrong.

 

http://dateawhiteguy.blogspot.com/2007/07/essays-virulent-racio-misogyny-in-black.html

DeepWater 2464 pts

 Joyce345  TheZitaZitomihr   Great article (love Evia, Khadija, Halima).

I love being a Black woman (and goddess...bwaahhhaaaa) but have removed myself from the Black environment (community) due to thinkin' I had two other friends beside me all the time, Black and Ugly.  This coming primarily from Black males (bm in family, bm classmates, bm in general) and not have lived among the BC for decades and that life has been sooooooooooooooo much better for said decision (yes, it was a decision early on).  Been liking "White boys" since, like, forever, (and, also now, men of Asian descent, Chinese, Korean, Japanese....(and mixed heritage among these as well) and don't give a **** who do or don't like it.  Got tired of those uncomfortable buddies, Black and Ugly, and to remove them I had to remove myself from the Black male equation.  Thus zero is the sum with bm and a hunnerd is the sum I have now (without them), word.

DeepWater 2464 pts

 Joyce345  TheZitaZitomihr   The comments in this article are off. the. chain.  We, commenters here at BBW along with some other Black women out there, are beginning to see wha'ts hapnin' with bm and (thank goodness) and are beginning to expand their options for love and life, so now, I don't feel like some type of alien on another planet after having disassociated myself with the negative aspects of the BC.

mahogany 480 pts

 Joyce345   Joyce thank you for the refresher. This part of Halima's post got me

 

"White supremacy says, “When you come outside your house, you will know that I reign supreme,” While racio-misogyny opens the door and says “Come in and put yourself above the women in here”.

 

This is a sickeness that requires several couches and clipboards.

valeriesmith15 136 pts

It is so funny, how people talk about freedom of choice, but when they exercise their freedom. People get mad.  So black women spend too much time discussing other black women's dating option with white or non black men, they don't say anything to black men though.  We talk about abundance of the universe, but deep, abundance must only be for a certain few.

 

Black women should do what is best for them, they are free agents and if they like white men.  God bless them and may God grant them the best men,

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

"Still, I find it troubling that K. Michelle and women like her tout a preference for a trait so general that it tells you little to nothing about the actual subject. Is it white swimmers that she likes? White junkies? White republicans? White hipsters? Or is it just the “White” in whatever form it comes that she “prefers”?"

 

Okay let me break something down. When I(or any other black woman) says that they prefer or only date white men we mean that we like how they look , meaning they are more attractive to us and we date them. And really that's all you need to know. If I say "I only date white guys or that's what I prefer" and THEN you ask me what kind of white guys do you date this quote and this woman would make sense. But she doesn't. It is not her business what kind of white man we like, it even sounds stupid. 

 

In short it's none of her business. Why does this woman want to know a specific type of white guy that black women who prefer white men date? It sounds scary if you ask me. 

 

Black women that date white men could date white men all their life and ALL the men she could have dated could be totally different. 

 

NO this woman just wants something to complain about. Nuff said. 

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

Why is everybody so concerned who bw prefer to date? Good lord get some business. When bw wasn't rarely dating nobody everybody was concerned, now they are dating someone (non-bm) now everybody concerned about that. Can't bw just get on with their lives. Enough of the foolishness.

ms. d 192 pts

I have found that non-black men treat me better. I just met a black guy who after texting me a few times, proceeded to ask me to send him a photo of myself. He then calls me, discovers that we live not too far from each other, and then asks me to come outside and see him. At 10:30pm. I told him nah, that I would pass. Met an indian guy, calls me at a respectable hour, have dinner date plans for later this week. I wish it weren't so, but every time I talk to a black guy it's some bull. I'm a great person, and if a black guy isn't willing to see that, then I'll look elsewhere. 

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 nieshasdavis That is so scary! Were you afraid? I would have slept with my metal bat.

ms. d 192 pts

 TheZitaZitomihr Not really. I was more astonished at the fact that he was trying to "see me" at 10:30pm. No date,no nothing. It's like they don't care or know  how to treat a lady. 

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 nieshasdavis Oh my goodness. That is so sick!

FriendsofJay 1853 pts

 nieshasdavis That's because non-BM are brought up to respect women no matter the color.  We're not angels, but our moms and sisters have taught us how to treat a woman. 

emmerdale94 142 pts

"Still, I find it troubling that K. Michelle and women like her tout a preference for a trait so general that it tells you little to nothing about the actual subject. Is it white swimmers that she likes? White junkies? White republicans? White hipsters? Or is it just the “White” in whatever form it comes that she “prefers”?"

 

I literally rolled my eyes when I read that. What a dumb and weak argument to employ. This kind of nit-pickiness is just another tactic anti-IRRers use. No explanation will ever be good enough for them as to one's preference for men of different race. 

jillodelight 516 pts

This piece reminds me of another article I saw on The Root titled "Black Women and the Myth of the White Knight"

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/black-women-and-myth-white-knight

 

The writer, a BW, states the usual "now I'm not anti-interracial..."  then proceeds to tell BW that if their relationships fail with BM, it's all their fault so don't think WM are the solution lol Here's a quote I found interesting 

"It is worth noting that Black women married to White men do have lower divorce rates than their Black/Black counterparts. However, I doubt this is because White men are easier to control then their Black counterparts.  Maybe these marriages fare better because many who are willing to cross the color line have a mindset that is more flexible and open minded, qualities that are essential to the success of a long-term union?"

This is the only sane part in her article, then she goes right back to defending BM.  I'm wondering why nobody ever brings up that BM have problems with women of ALL races.  BM have high divorce rates with BW but they have REALLY high divorce rates with non-BW.  If this BW looked up BW/WM divorce rates, surely she saw BM/WW divorce rates.  If BM fail at relationships period, no matter who's involved, why can't this crowd just face reality and ask what DO BM bring to their relationships?  Why do they want BW to carry the burden of black love? Why do they ignore the facts right in front of them?

onmywayup 1797 pts

 jillodelight "If BM fail at relationships period, no matter who's involved, why can't this crowd just face reality and ask what DO BM bring to their relationships?"

 

Because that would be the logical thing to do.  And unfortunately, some of these people are short in the logic department.

MySmile 4175 pts

 jillodelight " If BM fail at relationships period, no matter who's involved, why can't this crowd just face reality and ask what DO BM bring to their relationships?"

 

Thank you!! I've been puzzled about this for quite some time!!! Like, what the heck? If their relationships fail at alarming rates across the board guess who the common denominator, and probably the cause of the problem is? lol..I know the failure of a relationship isn't always one person's fault...and it's a natural part of life..but high failures across the board tell me all I need to know. I'm not even that logical or mathematical and I know that's simple logic.

onmywayup 1797 pts

Toni mentioned the whole competition aspect--as in, if more black women dated interracially, then that would leave more black men for the black women who prefer black men.  That's what confuses me about some of these black women against other black women in interracial relationships.  I just don't get it...if I were them, I would be breathing a sigh of relief that there are fewer black women that I need to "compete" with to get a good black man. 

 

Somehow, the few people who have ever objected to my openness to other races have been black women.  The black men I have come across have not  questioned me (not yet, anyway! lol).  However, the aforementioned black women have objected because (according to them), only black men were physically attractive, white men/other men were racist, or they didn't think that non-black men would find them attractive.

 

Notice the last reason I said...that leads me to believe that a few of these women are secretly wanting to be open or date interracially, but they are afraid to due to this insecurity. Don't get me wrong...I understand it, as I have also been exposed to rude non-black men saying awful things about black women.  Then again, I have also heard the same stuff from black men, so I don't really take these comments personally.  What some men have said has not taken away the fact that numerous men of varying races/ethnicities (mostly white, some black, Hispanic, Pacific Islander, and Arab) have shown interest in dating or pursuing a relationship with me.  (The reason I'm not in a relationship? I was a college student who had never dated before college. Anyway...)

 

Some of these women don't want to attribute their lack of success in interracial dating to something besides race.  And sometimes it really is something other than race, like not having open body language or always hanging around other black people.  Yes, I do know more than a few people who didn't hang around non-black people in college and were still whining that non-black men were not attracted to them.  Lol. So then they will direct their animosity towards people like me, dismissing me as a "special case" by saying, "Well, she's thin," or in the case of another friend, "Well, she's mixed," or "She couldn't get a black man," etc.  Ugh, self-sabotage is a beast...but I do sympathize, because I have sabotaged myself on numerous occasions, for numerous reasons.  (Thank God I recognize and am correcting those patterns now!)

 

The ones who did not have an interest in interracial dating/relationships/marriages seemed to take the choices of others personally.  I really don't understand that one at all. Someone please enlighten me.  It must be part of that whole "code of blackness" thing.  Interestingly enough, I never fit into the "code of blackness" during childhood/adolescence and I was still well-liked enough by most of the black people at my schools, with the exception of a few black girls. Hmmm....

Statuesque 1749 pts

 onthewaydown "Somehow, the few people who have ever objected to my openness to other races have been black women.  The black men I have come across have not  questioned me (not yet, anyway! lol).  However, the aforementioned black women have objected because (according to them), only black men were physically attractive, white men/other men were racist, or they didn't think that non-black men would find them attractive."

 

Me too, come to think of it!  I have seen the side eye and maybe some grumbling from older Black men, but I have never been confronted with anything.  Some Black women in my family are just beside themselves that I date whomever I want but most aren't brave enough to say anything to my face.  They just complain to my mother.

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 Statuesque  onthewaydown They complain to my mom too. I actually remember when they thought my sisters boyfriend was MY boyfriend and they gave me admiring looks and then they realized they were wrong. LOL

FriendsofJay 1853 pts

 onthewaydown said: Toni mentioned the whole competition aspect--as in, if more black women dated interracially, then that would leave more black men for the black women who prefer black men.

 

I also think that if more BW date out that BM would suddenly find BW much more attractive.  There's something about someone else finding someone attractive to make a guy reassess his options.  I think some BW make themselves TOO available.  Do what WW do:  play hard to get.

uninterracial 950 pts

How about, "I prefer someone that doesn't cheat on me and potentially expose me to STD's, doesn't beat me, try's to stay employed, and treats me like a queen?" What does skin color have to do with it? It shouldn't matter.

Patricia Kayden 1673 pts

I'm curious if Ms. Lucas would write a similar article questioning what specific type of White women/non-Black women so many Black men have stated a preference for.  Has she never heard Black men state proudly that they only date non-Black women?

 

I recall on Oprah that Dennis Rodman made it plain that he doesn't involve himself with Black women.  The Black women in the audience who had wildly cheered his entrance (including painting their faces) looked crestfallen.  I don't recall any uproar about that or any women like Ms. Lucas taking Mr. Rodman to task for his vocal anti-Black women commentary.

 

Sick of these double standards.

PamelaFoster 622 pts

Why in the world is this"Demetria" so concerned with one black woman's preference when you have literally hundreds of rappers, entertainers, athletes, politicians, and actors that you could ask this very question?  It's clearly a case of Stockholm syndrome.  Certain women have been held captive for so long they actually believe the non sense that's been spouted.  Reminds me of situations when I was stationed overseas and many black women remained dateless because all the brothers were dating rainbow women.  These lowlifes/DBR actually had the nerve to tell those women to "hold on...eventually we will come back to you"!!!  What the what.....

mahogany 480 pts

 PamelaFoster "Why in the world is this"Demetria" so concerned with one black woman's preference when you have literally hundreds of rappers, entertainers, athletes, politicians, and actors that you could ask this very question? "

 

Its done to keep Michelle and other BW in place. Its like she is "telling" on them so mama and daddy,  (BM and BW who don't like BW dating interracially can "get them".

AleeL 440 pts

I don't think they REALLY want to know why she prefers to date white men. It might ruffle some feathers. Lol.

 

I just wonder why no one ever asks black men who exclusively date non-black women to justify their preference.

Tammy_Ghalden 867 pts

If someone were to ask me what kind of cars I prefer in general, I would say large sedans. Now, this would bring up all kinds of questions in people's minds. What color do I like them in? What about the ones that only have primer on them? Do I like the gas guzzler ones or the fuel efficient ones? Do I want a car that has flood damage. Do I like cars that have a bit of rust on them? Would I want a used sedan that was previously owned by a smoker? Would I prefer ones with 20" rims or monster truck tires? Do I want one that is broke down or high mileage? What about a large sedan that has a few dings and dents here and there? There would be so many questions left unanswered. I would have to be really specific, like Green Eggs and Ham  specific.

onmywayup 1797 pts

 Tammy_Ghalden This just made my day!

emmerdale94 142 pts

 Tammy_Ghalden Exactly! Where would it end? At the end of the day, you don't have to justify nothing to anyone but yourself.

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kiki100 630 pts

 Tammy_Ghalden The thing is this woman probably doesn't feel the need to do this to black men.  It's like she wanted to more more info than she needed. Oh and if you told me you liked large sedans, I would leave it at that. The color and tires would not interest me a all...lol

Statuesque 1749 pts

 kiki100  Tammy_Ghalden " It's like she wanted to more more info than she needed."

 

That's what irked me about it.  If I say I like silver sedans and you need to know the ins and outs of that, plus castigate me because I don't like burgundy SUVs, I can't really help you.  I may not know why I like silver sedans or I may have a 100 item list outlining why.  Either way, notcha bizness if I don't care to elaborate.

Tammy_Ghalden 867 pts

 kiki100 Yeah, my post was sarcastic.

Statuesque 1749 pts

 Tammy_Ghalden  kiki100 I got that, but it was a good analogy to run with because it's so ridiculous lol

CherieMaria 838 pts

I really want to know what was the point of her article. Two pages of her telling black women what we already we know and being upset because K Michelle didn't "specify" what kind of white man she wanted. Why does she or any other woman have to explain herself in detail to make you feel better?  White doesn't automatically mean right, we know that, but for some of us white is what we like. So what is the discussion for? It blows my mind how so many black women feel the need to vouch for black men. I am just curious how many articles written by black men, telling other black men that there are plenty of good black women are out there. You could probably count them on one hand, if there are any at all.

kiki100 630 pts

 CherieMaria She is clearly more black male identified. From that small piece I got that she is concerned that K. Michelle won't 'be there' for the black community. I guess the black woman is all that is left.   These women are sooo stupid, it pisses me off.

CherieMaria 838 pts

 kiki100  CherieMaria It pisses me off too. It's also funny that they are so concerned with the fact that K Michelle doesn't want to date a black man right now when half of these black blogs were dismissing her because that said her claims of being abused by her black ex weren't true. Now, all of a sudden her wanting to date a white man matters.

VintageNarcissa 3151 pts

Really though. I have to start out by saying, for shame on the author of that quote. It makes less sense than lipstick on a pig. At this point, the constant critique of black women's choices has become redundant despite the fact that they continuously find new ways to phrase it. Some black women date out. Get over it. If you don't like it, turn your head the other way. You have the right to your opinion, but honestly, unless you're a black woman interested in IR or a white man interested in her, said opinion does not count that much. 

 

No one knows what vocation or personality traits the people they will be involved with will have until they meet them and experience them. It's hilarious that black women are expected to pull such feats directly out of their asses. Last time I checked, it's incongruent for us black wimmens to be at the "bottom of the totem pole" and super human at the same time. 

 

I would love to know how many black women married to black men knew exactly the personality and vocation of their husbands before they even met. People who have such specific preferences often have less of an interest in finding true love and more in building their own best interest. Think basketball "wives," Upper East Side socialites on their 4th tycoon husband. Though I wouldn't be surprised if that is exactly what this quote is insinuating.

 

Personally I feel black women get singled out for criticism in this arena because we are often unwilling to just offer up an explanation for our preferences when it comes to dating interracially. Its been my observation that other races of people will tack on an explanation regardless of whether or not to was inquired. Black women will often say, I prefer black men because they are "kangs" and I want brown babies. Black men will often say, I prefer white women because xyz is wrong with black women. White women will often say, I prefer black men because they are physically and sexually attractive in xzy way. The only groups that are as equally tight lipped tend to be Asian women and white men and that may be because overall that attraction is mutual so it needs no explanation.

 

But what do black women who prefer IR say? Unfortunately for most, many black women are not so one-sided to have a universal reason for their IR preferences. Some of us may have just grown that way. Some of us may have grow up in situations that exposed us to different kinds of people. Some of us may have had bad experiences with black men and decided to broaden our horizons. Some of us may have just met a non-black men we were interested in and decided to stick with that as a preference. And that list can really go on.

 

Black women who offer no explanation and make to apologies for their choices grind the gears of naysayers like none other. In K.Michelle's case I honestly don't even think it's the fact that she's stated her preference that has people up in arms, but the fact that they are simply left with nothing but their own speculations. She has this sordid history of abuse by the hand of a black man. So in people's eyes her stating a preference for white men is also denouncing the black man. And we all know we "mustn't do that." The fairy tales and fallacies running through the heads of objectors must be paramount. It's in essence a psychotic "mourning" of a another black women lost to the world of DBR'ism, "blackistan," and similar abuse. For as we all know the disfunction of the black community was born on the backs of black women told that their place is at the bottom. They continue to try to pull her back in with their "opinion." But K.Michelle, whose the only person who I related to and who's story I really followed on that show, seems to have an attitude that reads to hell with the rest of ya'll. My life, my rules. 

 

The simple fact is that a preference for white men tends to be a metaphor for better choices in general. Character over color. A better life for women and their off spring. A better life for the man she ends up with even. We have talked about the extremely high regard and reverence white men often have for black women. No matter what society says, that is something that cannot be ignored. I don't know K.Michelle, but I am proud every time I see a black women unafraid to stand up for her own betterment. I will be happy for whatever choices or preferences lead her to the best life possible for her. 

 

jillodelight 516 pts

 VintageNarcissa I'm liking that pro-IR BW motives aren't easy to read: I don't want to be stereotyped like other BW, BM, or WW.  Luckily for BW we don't have near 600 anti-BM videos and blogs like BM do for BW., BW celebs. in IRR don't even mention BM (except Halle Berry) You won't see us on talk shows begging some BM to date us. I notice people (I mean people of ALL races and both genders) who are against pro-IR BW and their supporters fear BW are getting revenge on BM.  It always seems to be the subtext of naysayers arguments.  It just reeks of insecurity: if you constantly have to defend a group of men from so much as hint of criticism (does EVERYONE really have to like BM?), you'd think they'd ask themselves "Why?"I'm so tired of the "Well, I think its ok for everyone to have a preference but..."  They need to just state "I think it's ok for everyone to have a preference except BW.  It hurts my feelings! Waaahhh!"

Brenda55 19625 pts moderator

First point.  That is one fine looking huck of male in that photo of K. Michelle.  Those guns are to die for. 

 

Second.  The reason I posted the NYC article is this.  We tend to focus on black women on this site because well, that is what we do but as the article stated. IRR of ALL combinations are increasing across the board and it is more of a generational thing. Young people date and marry IRR simply because they want to and they can.

 

Articles such as the one the ones penned by writers like Demetria L. Lucas are increasingly meaningless and a hold over when people were more divided along race lines.  Younger people who grew up in environments where there is more race mixing are not having difficulty meeting other young people of different races and forming friendships.  The rest just flows naturally as they get to know each other. What's more young people are really not all that interested in fighting old race battles that really have no relevance in their live except in a historical sense.

 

When I saw this article    

Postscript: V For Victory

by Khadija Nassif on November 15th, 2011 

http://sojournerspassport.com/ 

 

 I thought it was premature but now that I think about it and the more I see she was right.

 

Sorry GAT-DL the war is over.  It is now just a mop up operation. We can live, sing and tell our stories love who we want , marry and raise our kids as we chose to there is nothing that your lot can do to stop us at this point.

Toni_M 18934 pts moderator

 Brenda55 Yup. The biggest take away I got from this entire thing is that the Kenya dolls from my childhood are coming back. \o/

jillodelight 516 pts

 Toni_M  Brenda55 "My name is Kenya, my name is Kenya!" lol Whatever happened to that doll? I remember making my mom buy me two.

Toni_M 18934 pts moderator

 jillodelight  Brenda55 A copyright issue took them off the market apparently. But they're coming back next month. :D

Toni_M 18934 pts moderator

 jillodelight  Brenda55 ....You will not believe how ridiculously happy I've been about this all day. :B