Proud to Be Black Y’all….But Not Necessarily: The Bi-Racial Conflict

Proud to Be Black Y’all….But Not Necessarily: The Bi-Racial Conflict

A complicated and unique facet of being bi-racial is that we’re all a part of at least two different races and/or cultures yet, depending on who we’re most closest to, is who we come to identify with.

Author : Tracy Renee Jones

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I’m stoked to see the ‘what if’ questions dancing around the site.

For those of you who have not yet had children, and for those of you that do, you’ll never know more than what your child discloses to you.

As the mother of an adult child, I can tell you about the enlightening things I’m learning just now from a child too old for punishments that went right under my nose during points in her life.

Now, I was a concerned and focused mother, and she was a productively busy and after school program involved child, with two adults in her home. Whatever she did (of which a small part she now feels comfortable enough to share with me, I know there’s more she isn’t) was kept mum.

So we can agree that no one person can know everything; I dare you tell me your parents knew everything. When people love people they keep certain shit to themselves; things are left unsaid because we don’t want to hurt the feelings of the people we care about.

But more so than simply attempting to display common courtesy we’re taught that there is some shit you just don’t say.

But people like me do.

A complicated and unique facet of being bi-racial is that we’re all a part of at least two different races and/or cultures yet, depending on who we’re most closest to, is who we come to identify with.

I see many women on this blog that speak of being proud of their skin color, of their race and of their right to exist equally along with other races.

They should and that’s cool, yet the issue is not so simple for a bi-racial child which must determine ‘which ‘side’ gets to ‘have’ us. Some of this identification will rest on what origin a bi-racial child looks most like, we can’t stop the presumptions of those on the outside looking in.

I wonder what the reaction would be if these proud Black women found out that their child isn’t necessarily ’proud’ of their Black racial heritage.

I could take the easy route and blame it on the unfiltered opinion that other races have of Blacks in general.

I use the term “Blacks” because as a bi-racial, we sometimes don’t see choose to identify with any particular African/Caribbean/African American check box.

It doesn’t sound great to say, but I know I’m not alone in this sentiment.

You are ‘black’ and I am…not, because I am not ‘just Black’ and because its okay for me to be not Black since bi-racial and multi-culturism is now becoming the norm. I had no hand in creating my genetic make up, my parents did that, so therefore I cannot feel obligated to identify with one culture while excluding the other.

Does the choice to not identify with ‘typical Black’ become what we’re doing while here promoting diverse families? The comments burn just the same when they come from the mouth of an Irish person, a Pakistani person or a Black person.

Being bi-racial allows me the opportunity to hear far more race based presumptions and observations dumped into my ear then I’m comfortable receiving from EVERYONE. When words are put in the air, they stick in your ears, I can’t help but to hear how ALL people feel about Blacks.

Some of it is the truth, though it doesn’t sound good to say, but some of the things you can’t say are things we do say when we discuss our issues with Blackness while creating community here.

This does not mean that I am ashamed of my African American blood, this just means that the position the African American isn’t a desirable one and anybody can observe that.

When compared to the stereotypical depiction of Black Americans, African American’s and other cultures all hold a low opinion of the race. Some would argue that the behavior of certain members of the race is a clear indication that we/they hold a low opinion of themselves, regardless of where it originally came from and regardless of the contributing factors that bought them to that place.

Many Blacks live that stereotypical life, and we’ve agreed, that it is their right and their plight to do so.

Many bi-racial people imitate, discuss, criticize and shun, Black-ness, all while knowing we are a part of it. Those who aren’t Black or African American imitate, criticize and shun certain parts of their own individual blood line. Google #FAB if you don’t believe me.

It may be something bi-racial people do as a way to process our feelings or maybe not.

The honest answer is that we’re not clinging to the belief of ‘that’s not me’ as a form of denial, but literally the label “Black” does not quite fit ‘us’ even when Blacks imply that we are required to do so.

Is it wrong to want to step away from typical Black-ness? Regardless of my reasons for not being a ‘typical Black’ some of the anti-Black behavior is beneficial, isn’t it?

We talk about low income male dominated neighborhoods are not safe. We talk about a lack of appreciation for self sufficiency, education and persistence. We discuss how low class Blacks have normalized dysfunction in their relationships with their mates, children and society.

I tried my hardest to work on my dysfunction because I am motivated simply by my desire to ‘not be like those Blacks’. I was told and believed I am better than that, my complexion and ambiguity may have contributed to my quest to distance myself.

Do I hang my head while I acknowledge that I purposely distance myself from typical African American behavior, and if I do not choose to be ashamed of my separatism, does that make me a bad ‘Black’ person?

Is distancing oneself from destructive behavior, that may be associated with ones lower class of race, something that is promoted here? Does my desire to have things ‘un-Blackistan-ish’ for my daughter and for myself mean that I am a traitor or just a person that wants something different from what I see?

There’s much to be proud of within the Black race, and I am proud of the efforts and accomplishments achieved by African American’s.

I am just as proud of my Native American race.

By being bi-racial, I have an association to both race and neither race in totality, but merely as a spectator that hopes the best for what previously were unique and distinct cultures of people.

Some bi-racial people feel like its okay for Blacks to feel “Proud to be Black” but also feel like maybe, just maybe Blackness isn’t at the center of our existence and being. Those of you who seek to reproduce by those that look unlike yourselves, be reminded and prepared for the next generation of humans who may not feel the way you do about the race you most closely identify with.

The decision to change things was made prior to any bi-racial person’s arrival. Will certain people allow bi-racial people to be unique and self determined or will we always be traitors to both races because our parents ‘sold out’ by loving who they loved in the context that created each of us that now exist among you.

 

 

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MichaelD2013 12 pts

If America keeps to using a "Standard Culture Classification" (Notice how I didn't say RACE as there is only ONE Race .. The Human Race") then teach your Bi-Racial Children to except the "Best of Both Worlds". Use the ability to access Government Programs such as College Aid, Affirmative Action ect to their advantage. Why not right? It is a shame kids learn to look for differences in each other to exploit. At birth children don't look for differences in each others outward features. It's a behavior that's "Taught to them" later on in life as they progress to adulthood in America. Find differences and exploit them. It's a mental sickness that needs to end. It's the 21st Century for crying out loud Lol. Look at our 1st Black President and some of the famous and now quite rich American pop stars ect. They didn't let this "Differential" hold them back from achieving their dreams. That's what these children need to learn and focus on.

Joyce345 1751 pts

In Africa biraials are called MIXED or 0.5 (meaning half and half) or half caste. They are  not called black. In previous conversations I have noted that it is a kind of mine field. Some get mad when bp call them 'black' and some get mad when bp call them biracial. So I just avoid them because I don't want to walk on egg shells.

Some mixed black & white people like to lament about being mixed and how they are seperate to black people and even get offended if they are called black, they will say no i'm mixed. I think that is a problem when mixed people start to view being black as some kind of insult. 

Me I could care less if someone wants to see me as black, I look more black than white so I can understand. I view myself as a woman of colour and If I could pick a category it would be 'mixed black woman' because I view myself as both mixed and black. My experiences and indentity are closer to black than white people but i still feel my identity and cultural upbringing is not the same as it is for monoracial black women.

thecrazyartist 2418 pts

I personally think it would be best to do away with racial classification altogether, but I know that we are a very long ways off from doing that at this point, there is just too much at stake(social, political even financial) to do away with "race" categories. I am mixed black and white, but my mothers side has a strong native american bloodline(both her parents and her sibilings are clearly part non-white, however with her it is not so obvious), and my father has a hint of asian on his side(his aunt looks blasian). As a result I look "hawaiian" or mixed black and native american and most people class me as such(a few people have thought I am a full-blooded native american). Here is the catch though: I am not connected to my native american roots in any way. I grew up in a predominantly white area in the southwest, and now that I live around more native americans(full-blooded), some have a hard time understanding how I can look so much like them, yet not know anything about native american traditions. I have even been encouraged to learn more about my native american ancestry(for my own good in the words of a classmate). So I feel that going by what a person looks like is not a complete solution to this. Another conflict is other black people thinking you are "better than them" if you acknowledge any other race or ethnicity. I was one of those kids that was raised to identify as black and only black, but my mothet thought the idea of identifying as anything other than "american" was silly, though in recent years I have identified as multiracial. I still refuse to let my skin color define who I am(I am a human being with feelings,wants and vices just like everyone else at the core). I really think that a persons upbringing and geographical location has more of an impact of how they percieve themselves. I also think that quite a few colorist DBR black people have made this situation worse than what it should be with their nonsense arguments and contradictory statements. These people will put light skin and mixed features on a pedestal, then when it backfires or said person does not reciprocate the feelings or identifies as bi or multiracial they are accused of being "whitewashed" and the "self hate" smear is thrown(look at what these people say about rosario dawson, her imdb board is just full of trolls). In the end identifying and surrounding oneself with respectful, non-hateful, like minded people is the best way to go.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

The racial classification doesn't just have a social aspect, it has a political aspect that some seem to forget. There is money attached to races, their is political power attached to racial identification in the U.S. we have a bi-racial president and ppl want biracial & multiracial as categories on the census but it wasn't, not as if the POTUS could just change that, why b/c racial identity makes for political power on both sides. How many folks who hold that power are going to be willing to give it up, b/c someone wants to identify as biracial or multiracial. This is a complex issue, a simple solution is not going to be had by many.

tracyreneejones 4019 pts

 eugeniaberg  I agree, there are a number of ppl that get angry when biracial people check certain boxes depending on the application. Is there preference for racial class? Welp...I'll take Native American and no taxes, or free tuition,  please and thanks.Is it more beneficial to be black? White? Handicapped.....so I have a dead beat military Dad...? Great, he's useless but for his military preference allotted to his children, but why should the people who can benefit from the check boxes use them like everyone else. I definitely see where you're going with this........ 

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@tracyreneejones Yes, what do I get? How do I benefit? If we gerrymander districts, we can get ppl elected or not elected. We get money for this or money for that. We get a new community center, or highway, or whatever subsidy you like based on your classification. Everyone benefits, well at least that's what you're supposed to believe.

DWB 8812 pts

 eugeniaberg Yup, the better angels of our natures rarely lead our actions. The president gains power by diving not only people, but himself!!!!

 

Brenda55 20939 pts moderator

 eugeniaberg  This is a large part of it. A very large part of it The other, as far as AAs are concern  is this fear that the US is turning in to a nation of Black....and every one else with those ID as black being at to bottom of the heap.  I think that that is the root of the claim any and all as black and the hostility  towards bi-racials with any sort of black ancestry for not embracing the black side. 

Brenda55 20939 pts moderator

http://thegrio.com/2012/09/04/detroit-immigrant-wants-to-be-classified-as-black/

 

Just throwing this out there.  Goes to show just how tricked up this issue is. 

Rosethorn 102 pts

I'll be glad to read a blog about bi-racial children embracing Whiteness, and what does that entail! I mean, for me, being African-American/Black, is Cultural, loosely based on dark skin. But it's really about language, movement, Art, food, Spirituality, even psychologically.

The Black consciousness, Culture, is unique and beautiful if you're educated about it.Class really doesn't matter. There have been the greatest of Great Black minds, who grew up dirt poor, but have such an appreciation for Black Culture. The Black crazies that we are "avoiding" are suffering from discontent. And that can be found in ALL Cultures.

I feel that it is in the bi-racial person's best interest to "identify" with such an opulent Culture-sorry-I really do. Ours is very inclusive, despite the snags we hit in our day to day life. I keep reading these kinds of blogs and commentaries insistently trying to classify bi-racial people. Separarting them. That mantra that we come in all shades suddenly becomes moot! I stick to that. Their experience is a parent of another culture, just as another "Black" person would have a parent from another state or overseas or in the military and so on. It's an experience. And I think Black folks accept this more than White Americans.  They're changing, but slowly so.

AJ2011 2310 pts

 Rosethorn 

African American is a cultural label, Black isn't. I never equate the African Continent with "blackness", that's a Eurocentric perspective.

All Blacks are descended from African but All Africans aren't Black-if that make sense.

 

African American (culturally) distinguishes blacks, mulattos, and even some quadroons from the larger American culture, mainly because the cultural synthesis of blacks in this country is different and based on the experiences of blacks due to race in the United States. So Halle Berry, Alicia Keys, Beyonce, WEB DuBois, Lena Horne, etc can be African American but not "Black".  

 

So people with mixed parentage can be called African American,  Jamaican, Mende, Haitian, and Igbo but each of these cultures have Black people, half Black people, and non-black people.

 

 

AJ2011 2310 pts

 Rosethorn By non-black I mean like Halle Berry's Daughter and Tiger Woods, they have a biracial parent.

DeepWater 2519 pts

 AJ2011  Rosethorn   Or Mariah Carey, with an Irish mother and a father whoms' mother was Black and his father as Venezuelan.   She, out of her own mouth, identifies as a Black woman.......strange huh?.......considering she could very easily pass as anybody's American white woman for the most part (I do think there is a little Black soul woman in her frame that does come out sometimes through her songs/vocals........bwaaaaaahhhhhaaaa).

http://www.mtv.com/artists/mariah-carey/photos/

AJ2011 2310 pts

 DeepWater  Rosethorn 

MC is a good example. Stacey Dash and Tawny Cyress too. I don't go by looks too much. 

DeepWater 2519 pts

 AJ2011  Rosethorn   Well, come on now, Stacey Dash APPEARS Black though of mixed heritage.    Tawny Cyress has "the Black phenotype" appearance.   I.e. though light with light eyes, still APPEARS as that of a Black woman, whereas, had I not known about MCs heritage I'dve just assumed she was white, straight up.

 

Even Maury Povich the other day stated, during "You Are/Are Not" the father sequences  (terrible voyeurism, but love it anyways) that "In all of the years I've been doing this show appearances CAN be deceiving", had to do with a green eyed-white appearin' baby between a Black and Latino couple where the man stated "this could not possibly be my child" and Maury stated "you cannot go by that, folk be peering out from back behind somebodys' (family) tree somewhere" and......as it turned out.........it was his child (in this instance).

AJ2011 2310 pts

 Like I said I don't go by looks. 

JannaAshley 585 pts

 DeepWater  AJ2011  Rosethorn 

 

Hate to admit I watch Maury at times lol. I think I saw that one. Latinos and blacks have mixed racial histories, so of course we can't go by looks. My daughter's father is from El Salvador, and as far as skin color goes she took after him. My family says her face looks like mine as a child, but my daughter is not brown at all. This is why I've had strangers in public ask if she's mine...

 

I just like to say nobody is straight anything, that would be hard to find unless you come from a very isolated group of people, and even then if you go back far enough you'd probably find something.

DeepWater 2519 pts

 JannaAshley  AJ2011  Rosethorn   Exactly.    My moms' (deceased) father, my maternal grandfather was light.   I'm talkin' Colin Powell light almost to the point that he could have passed as white whereas I'm more closer to the deeper hued brown African heritage.   Like you say few folk are no longer"straight anything" anymore.

DeepWater 2519 pts

 JannaAshley  AJ2011  Rosethorn    Gotta say about Maury Povich whom is married to (I think now retired) newswoman Connie Chung.   They have mixed Jewish and Amerasian children themselves as well as children from previous marriage (he not she).

 

Also, I remember Maury Povich from his journalistic days on "A Current Affair" way back before the ET (Entertainment Tonight), Access, Extra, E Entertainment formats came about.   He's ALWAYS been FOINE though, obviously, is now a more seasoned gentlemen.

Pearl Rose 1182 pts

B proud of the cultures you know you are a part of. I'm proud to be an African-American woman. The kids I will have will be probably have a dad from another country. They will be proud of their dad's culture and their mom's no doubt about it.

Mayanew 192 pts

"Those of you who seek to reproduce by those that look unlike yourselves, be reminded and prepared for the next generation of humans who may not feel the way you do about the race you most closely identify with."

 

This is so true and a good number of biracials are going to be from the middle/ upper middle class and those people will not HAVE to identify with blacks.  Some of them will be people who would not even associate with their own parents if they were not their parents.  I went to the doctor's office and I dealt with a nurse ( biracial girl) and I was my usual sweet self and she was very cold toward me.  I wonder if she was cold because I was black or because she was in a bad mood.  I was friendly and articulate and professional and in business attire so there was no "blackistani behavior" going on there.  Some of these people unfortuntately will be the new racists as the white race shrinks.

Brenda55 20939 pts moderator

 Mayanew " I work to the doctor's office and I dealt with a nurse "

Ever work in a doctor's office as a nurse? It is no pick-a-nick

Don't take it personally.  I'd lay odd she was having a crap day.

MixedUpInVegas 1691 pts

 Brenda55  Mayanew

 Never overlook the obvious: she might just be a miserable person with a failing life and unhappy with her job.  Too bad she can't rise above that and treat the patients as they should be treated (I work in the medical field, too.)

Brenda55 20939 pts moderator

 MixedUpInVegas  Brenda55  Mayanew 

 

Yes I know.  Your hubby is a Doc. It gets down to working with the public which as we bot know can be a chore.

 

Some folks can be real jerks when it comes to accepting service. After a while it works your nerves and you burn out. I know. I've been there which is part of the reason I retired at age fifty when I had the chance.

temple 798 pts

I have been very firm & vocal in my belief that bi-racials should have their own category.  I've made my belief very clear here at BBW.  I don't automatically consider bi-racial black just because they have one black parent.  I feel no offense in bi-racial people identifying as BIRACIAL.  As I've said before a gigantic amount of confusion can definitely be avoided by assigning bi-racials their own racial category. 

Since the world is committed to "racial" classification--no matter that race is a big fat man-made fallacy--bi-racials should have a separate racial classification.

I can def be happy with that & it would eliminate all the political, social, blame-games.

temple 798 pts

@MixedUpInVegas you're welcome

VintageNarcissa 3152 pts

 I say this with all due respect, but the last time I heard, Native Americans have higher rates of several mal-adjusted behaviors than even African Americans, including obesity, alcoholism and gambling addiction. So how do blacks become the scape goat in this conundrum?

MixedUpInVegas 1691 pts

 VintageNarcissa

 I'm familiar with the point you raised, living in the southwest.  I think those problems are compounded by the community in which one finds one's self.  My father was Native American, but we never lived the reservation life; he worked in Europe and that's where we grew up for the most part.  My mother is Creole, but we never lived in the south.  Maybe this is a test-tube case: how does being mixed race affect one's thinking and behavior if one is raised in an atypical setting?

 

Answer: you don't know that you're all that different from anyone else.

VintageNarcissa 3152 pts

 MixedUpInVegas I can understand that. Like you said, I was just pointing it out. I can understand the idea of avoiding stereotypical others, but I honestly do not understand why black stereotypical others are so much worst than stereotypical others from other races. I mean, it's not like any of us have a standing date with some run of the mill, sister humping, "white trash" family down at the Piggly Wiggly. But not associating with those type of people goes without saying.

MixedUpInVegas 1691 pts

 VintageNarcissa

 " . . . I honestly do not understand why black stereotypical others are so much worst than stereotypical others from other races. . . . "

 

Vintage, I don't know that that is true.  Poor white trash, barrio hispanics and drunken, desperate reservation Native Americans aren't any more appealing than ghetto Blacks.  The ratchet members of the lower socio-economic classes create problems and cost the tax dollars of every productive citizen.  No one group has a corner on the dysfunction market.

VintageNarcissa 3152 pts

 MixedUpInVegas That's why I said, It goes without saying that well adjusted people will avoid those types of mal-adjusted people. They don't talk about it. They just do it. When was the last time you heard someone blogging in detail about avoiding 'white trashistan?' Whether or not one group or another actually has a corner on the dysfunction market is not the issue. The perception that blacks have the corner of said market is. 

MixedUpInVegas 1691 pts

 VintageNarcissa

 Vintage, I really do get what you're saying.  I can't respond with authority about what other groups say about their trashy, embarrassing, living-the-bottom-tier stereotype folks because I don't follow those blogs.  Bet you could find out for yourself, though, if you looked hard enough on the Internet.

 

The bottom line is that we are not responsible, any of us, for the behavior of other people in our perceived group.  Adults are responsible for themselves.  If a Black or Black-identified person is sleazy, lazy, scummy, worthless, embarrassing, ignorant, uncouth or whatever other adjective you can apply, so what?  That person is as far removed from you as Snookie is from Donald Trump.

 

Go on about your business and leave them to wallow in the lives they have made for themselves.  You don't have to feel anything about it.  You make your choices, they make theirs.  You already know who will come out ahead.

tracyreneejones 4019 pts

 MixedUpInVegas  VintageNarcissa Of course we know there is low class of every culture, the issue is that Black low class is reinforced through media. We can argue about authentic versus manufacturers by the media, which is a cause. My essay is about the reaction of those on the outside looking in, including those that insult AA/Blacks and mixed race people who don't outwardly appear as Black. 


I know plenty who have stepped away from the Black race, married others and have 'washed' their hands of AA for whatever reason and/or no reason. This essay was all about children, identity, and self determination. Other cultures are given the benefit of the doubt for their lows, where Blacks are still the media's favorite archetype. Promote better examples, have better standards, do more counter talking, continue discussing 'DBR's without clarifying DBR is represented by a character flaw and not a race. 


People are arguing with what I said rather than focusing on the validity of what I stated. I also wanted to bring to light my perception of how AA/Blacks are discussed in this place, which can get ugly and racist with us/them undertones. I'm an adult, your children are watching and one day they will make a decision on who they are and it may not be whom their parents hoped. 

I know this is new territory for many people, though for me it is not. 

DWB 8812 pts

 tracyreneejones I do think that it is a little harder for black folk to have to deal with the mentality of racist of different races who always point to the worst of the hood as representative of black folk, but redneck, white trash is a common stereotype of white people and it is reinforced QUITE often.


 As the father (& step-father) of 8 bi-racial children I ask you to not assume that self-hatred or embarrassment of the black part of their identity is always the explanation for the cognitive dissonance that you've noted. It's more complicated than: that both my oldest daughter and youngest step-daughter have noted that "brown-skin" people are usually the ones who are mean to them and who bully them ... life is NOT easy nor explanations easy to come by.

tracyreneejones 4019 pts

 DWB I don't presume anything. The meanest I've ever been treated has been by Black people, though I won't simply state that for fear of having 'that discussion' I"m attempting to imply that the ugly behavior displayed by and about AA (or others) may be something that contributes to mixed children refusing to associate, or identify with a group who ostracize them and of whom they may not be associated with due to their mixed environment. I realize Rednecks are a common stereotype of white people but I didn't think a comparison of low class others would be well received here, nor help us keep focused, if you get my drift and I think you do.. 

DWB 8812 pts

 tracyreneejones Yes, I understand ... I just get so angry at those who seek to divide instead of unify ... if I had all the answers the problem would be solved ... alas... :(

AJ2011 2310 pts

 VintageNarcissa 

" it's not like any of us have a standing date with some run of the mill, sister humping, "white trash" family down at the Piggly Wiggly."

 

That's hilarious! 

AJ2011 2310 pts

 MixedUpInVegas  Actually government management and corporate subsidies and incentives are costing you more as an individual tax payer, but that is another discussion. 

MixedUpInVegas 1691 pts

:::creeping quietly into the room and having a seat in the back row:::  Whoa!

 

Uh, not all mixed-race people are the same mix, as has been wisely noted by several posters.  Those of us who are mixed with other minorities don't necessarily enjoy the privilege that is being alluded to.  Nonetheless, I guess I haven't been here long enough to have read some of the posting from other mixed-race women who seem to have made themselves unwelcome.  I hope I haven't further convinced my fellow posters that I should be persona non grata as well.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@MixedUpInVegas You're biracial and multicultural is more than just black and white and sometimes black and white aren't included at all in that mix. This questions deeper and more complicated than most of have the time or inclination to deal with.

MixedUpInVegas 1691 pts

 eugeniaberg   MixedUpInVegas

 Understood.  The possible combinations would confound a math scholar.  Perhaps the intricacies would, too.  But I have to speak up for those of us with a Black heritage that is obvious for even the casual observer to see.  If you look different, you are different in modern America--maybe more different to some of our fellow citizens than others.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@MixedUpInVegas But the fact is more and more combos of ppl are getting together, whether they include a blk person or white person in that combo is just one thought. If I say you're bi-racial or multi-cultural what does that mean? B/c most of are part of bw/non-bm we think black and usually white. Where does this leave other ppl. My niece as I said is Norweigan & Persian, she looks Latina. That's what I mean, all biracial and multiracial ppl look like an 'other' most of time. Biracial and multicultural is too limited, that just throws a bunch of hodgepodge combos of ppl in a category where they can really vary. How productive is that for identitty? As time goes on some of theses categories are going to have to go b/c they are just too limiting.

DWB 8812 pts

 eugeniaberg   MixedUpInVegas All people are "mixed-up" ... some are just more obvious.

tracyreneejones 4019 pts

 MixedUpInVegas  eugeniaberg   I didn't know I was different until other people pointed it out to me in various ways, both good and bad. Either one is encouraged to have pride and to learn about their other as part of all of their whole selves or one is ostracized or challenged for being/embracing the otherness. It's a very confusing place to be which is why I wrote this to present the possibility that some bi-racial/multi's will, in time, find our own lane or occupy all lanes or choose to decline any lane at all. 

DWB 8812 pts

 tracyreneejones  MixedUpInVegas  eugeniaberg I would hope the third option becomes reality, but I am sorta pessimistic ... there is just too much power (real and imagined) in keeping people assigned to teams and keeping score.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@DWB @MixedUpInVegas I'm speaking more obvious, you I'm just 'passing' for black. *sarcasm*