Fighting Back Against Street Harassment (part two)

Fighting Back Against Street Harassment (part two)

“AY! AY! AY!”

Author : Dani

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Let me begin this post with a bit about my experiences with street harassment: I have been subject to all kinds, from the time I was a teenager. It’s ranged from the usual “AY! AY! AY!” top-of-the-lungs-screaming, to the “eff you then b-tch!”, to having a car full of guys chase me on a highway to try to get me to pull over and talk to them, to unknowingly being followed nearly all of the way when walking home one evening, after ignoring a guy.

It had gotten to a point where I wouldn’t run errands over lunch at work, because any walk of just a few blocks to the post office, pharmacy, library, grocery store, etc would result in being screamed at from some bus stop, men invading my personal space to force me to acknowledge them and/or being followed. I even stopped walking to work, which I loved doing.

However, the days of re-arranging my life to avoid bad manners and aggressive harassment of these men are over. THEIR behavior needs to stop, not me changing the things I enjoy to avoid being harassed. If I ignore your initial overtures and you decide to coerce me into acknowledging you, proceed at your own risk of being publicly embarrassed.

Case in point:

Just a few days off my Oakland airport experience – http://www.beyondblackwhite.com/fighting-street-harassment-part-one/, I was leaving a gas station. As I exited the door, I immediately noticed a man with a Bluetooth openly staring at me crassly. I sighed and decided to ignore him, especially since again, I was wearing sunglasses.

 As I walked past, he made some kind of loud, gross smacking sound and hollered something like “HEY CUTIE.” I kept ignoring him as I headed toward my car and then a familiar scene ensued. He stopped dramatically. He got loud. “OH FO-RREAL?! IT’S LIKE THAT?!”

 I quickly weighed my options – I was close to my car and there were several people around. I spoke up, disgustedly. “I’m not interested in men who yell at me like that.”

 Just like before, the guy’s mouth dropped open. “BUT ALL I SAID WAS…”

 I shrugged and got into my car.

My friends, I have simply tired of ignoring this kind of behavior. I want to un-normalize what has become accepted par for the course, in terms of rude, crass, loud comments directed at women and then belligerence when advances are spurred. There are a number of ways we can begin collectively doing so:

1. If you are in a safe place, speak up that the behavior is offensive. Sometimes speaking up is enough to shame the younger guys who have picked this nonsense up from DBR cousins or something and are just mimicking it. Though viewed derisively by some, simply speaking up can be largely empowering, especially if your method of dealing with it has been like mine: ignoring it, avoiding eye contact, etc. Brenda55 provided several great resources which detail how to speak assertively and communicate that the harassment is unwelcomed: http://www.stopstreetharassment.org/strategies/assertive-responses/ ; http://www.huffingtonpost.com/soraya-chemaly/international-street-harassment-week_b_1228198.html ; http://everydayfeminism.com/2012/11/7-steps-to-address-street-harassment/

2.  If you have to frequent an area where there is particularly aggressive harassment, please carry pepper spray or have another method (i.e. self-defense moves) to defend yourself if the harassment becomes physical. Also, consider joining http://www.ihollaback.org/ to report the area as a hotspot for street harassment (again, courtesy of Brenda55). If you have high powered connections in the area, consider telling those people (who may be connected to local businesses or places of interest like colleges, libraries, etc) that the street harassment is so terrible your visits in the area are extremely limited to just your pressing business. It doesn’t seem like much, but if they get enough feedback people who care will try to make it a more hospitable environment, especially in areas that are trying to be revitalized.

3. If you are harassed at a place you frequently patronize, contemplate immediately telling a supervisor or sending an email/letter so that the business may resolve the issue with the perpetrator(s), especially if you articulated that the behavior is rude yet the perp continued. After all, if it is a place you enjoy, why should your experiences be ruined or you avoid the area? HOWEVER, please exercise discernment in how you do so. Yes, there are people who want to see men who do this get reported/fired at any cost, but when it comes to people being disciplined or losing their jobs, please tread cautiously for your own safety. If you have a service that needs to be completed (such as receiving food you’ve paid for) or are waiting for a product, consider completing the transaction first before saying something so you don’t experience retaliation.

 If you are reporting the situation after the fact, do NOT just fire off an angry letter or email that has your contact information. Consider a few things, such as the type of business it is. Is it a large corporate chain where there’s a legit HR function or manager training to handle these issues discreetly and professionally? Is a union involved, where your entire complaint could be turned over for some kind of investigative due process? Is it a business in Blackistan where they’d simply chide you for turning down such good attention and leak your email or letter to WorldStarHipHop for you to get trolled.

 Obviously I am joking about the last one but as I said please exercise discernment and don’t write anything you wouldn’t be comfortable with being made public, should something happen. Choose your battles wisely. If you are a chronic complainer that could be used against you should an incident occur resulting in adjudication; the level of victim scrutiny that occurs in our society is unfortunate. If you have friends who are attorneys, one way to keep your anonymity and ward off any potential backlash or safety issues might be for one to send a stern letter on your behalf informing the business about the harassment.

 You may elect to do all or just one of these to fight back against the harassment you’ve been enduring. My goal is simply to get people to speak up more (in whatever way they feel is best in various situations) as to un-normalize what has become a sickening way of life. If you are interested in a larger scale effort, ihollaback.org has several ideas for advocacy at: http://www.ihollaback.org/resources/holla-how-to-guides/ .

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thecrazyartist 2420 pts

Funny story, today the harassers at my college decided to give it another go,  I was at the head of a stampede of students rushing to get to finals,  said harrasser steps in front of stampede, blocking the way around with his arms, he says the usual "why you so stuck up, you never talk to me", stampede(myself inculded) ignores him and he is told repeatedly to "move" or get out of the way by the onslaught of people.  I am not sure if this is a win, but never underestimate the power of a large number of people in a hurry.

Lilith_Eve 61 pts

Sheesh, where was this post when I was in college and grad school?  *laughs*  I also used to try ignoring the harassment but I still feared for my safety if I was alone and refused to give these cretins the time of day.  I went to an HBCU and while the students for the most part weren't a huge problem the school was in the hood and the neighborhood thugs and lowlifes were always an issue.

 

On more than one occassion I was followed into and around Kroger by men old enough to be my father.  All I wanted was some groceries and to go back to my dorm!  But one man in particular followed me through several aisles and the produce section shouting his phone number to me and offering to take me shopping at some department store cause they were having a sale that weekend.  This fool wanted to be my budget sugar daddy! 

 

I'm going to check out every single one of those links and email them to my sister.  I worry more for her than myself because she's very short and petite and not very assertive with people she doesn't know well.

Browncow 1617 pts

 Lilith_Eve "Budget sugar daddy"!!!! Now this is classic!

keimiasmoon 1073 pts

 Lilith_Eve That's really sad. Actually when I was a teenager an old man told me "I have Medicare, I could take care of you."  I laughed then, but the more I read these stories I realize that I've never had a chance to share these stories in the context of how hurt it made me feel, only in the context of a funny story. 

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 Lilith_Eve Thank you so much for commenting! It shouldn't amaze me anymore but it is mind-blowing how many black women have experienced this in certain parts of society. Like, we all probably have at least a dozen stories of this nonsense. It's gotta change.

melissamak007 264 pts

 Interesting post. After trying different tactics (and x amount of years) I think,  you just become bone tired of street harassment. Not like "Sigh. Not again." tired. But "WTH??? I wish I could walk down the street for one damn day without this bs!!!" I got called "Slim Goody" by some gentlemen (loosely phrased) sitting in front of the projects today.... The warmer months are always worse, I think. I totally agree with whoever said that there are actually women out there who entertain it. Therefore you can be as classy as you want to be and somehow get put in the same pot. It saddens me that women cannot leave the house and feel free to go wherever they please without being harassed. If they don't show interest, they get cursed out. It also saddens me that young girls are subject to this. Talk about traumatizing. What saddens me the most though, is that so many men find absolutely nothing wrong with disrespecting women. And don't have the foggiest notion about how to respectfully approach a woman.

LaFemmeSphinx 286 pts

 melissamak007 absolutely. Leaving the house becomes daunting most days. I'm not sure what I'm going to face at the bus stop, or any of the in-betweens, the passageway from Point A to Point B. Men can leer, follow you, make sexual gestures and comments, shout obscenities at you for not responding positively to them, and all of this is common place! 

 

There are women who entertain it, but I believe it really stems from such brokenness in our communities. I didn't have a father, I could hardly tell you what positive male affection, attention, and interaction was a few years ago. So yes, getting hit on whilst on the street was cool for a minute, though I often felt disgusted at 90% of the comments. I wanted attention from guys, I didn't have a dad or uncle helping solidify the idea that men who approach you in that way are unacceptable. I had to figure it out for myself and through a spiritual journey. 

The Silent One 190 pts

I experience street harassment pretty much every time I leave the house.  It's to the point where I am shocked if the time I spend outside was not met with some random man (usually Black and sometimes Hispanic), saying something trivial to me.  It's like, I can't do anything without some man mumbling something to me, leering at me, honking at me, asking me personal questions, or invading my personal space.  I don't usually say much, but from time to time I might tell a guy that I am not his 'sweetheart'.  I can't even tell you how many times a day I hear a salcious "How/Hi you doin'?"

 

The thing for me is that even though I am 26, I frequently get mistaken as a teenage girl.  So, not only do I get harassed by men my age and older, but I also get harassed by young boys who do not know that I am much older than them.

 

I don't care for the attention.

I don't care for what some random man on the street thinks of my appearance.  Nor do I want his approval in the form of a car honk or thumbs up.

I am tired of random men offering to drive me somewhere in their vehicle.

I am tired of random men thinking that because they have seen me before that that gives them the right to question me about where I was traveling to and/or why.

 

What is so frustrating for me is that I have no way of escaping this kind of behavior because I do not own a vehicle, so I spend more time outside, which puts me in contact with people more than I care to be.

 

I mean, damn.  I can't even eat a Popeyes biscuit without some random guy asking me if he can have some.  Or, some older man asking me if I bought him some coffee once he saw me drinking from my cup.

 

To make matters worse is that I am an introvert and having strangers, usually men, always trying to interact with me is very tiring.    It's like, every time I leave the house I am treated like a dating opportunity or someone to say random things to.  I just want to be left alone.

 

Oaktown Paul 859 pts

Quite sorry to hear you are verbally abused when you leave the house.  It is unacceptable that you are forced to endure such intrusions on a daily basis. If the opportunity to change your living situation ever presents itself, I hope you discover a better place to live --- A place where harassment is not the norm, and where you are able to encounter men who will not rudely invade your apace. Best wishes to you.       

The Silent One 190 pts

 Oaktown Paul  The place where I live now is fine.  I've been harassed in many different areas, some more than others.

LaFemmeSphinx 286 pts

 The Silent One I'm sorry, and I totally relate. I use public transit and it can be a nightmare as it exposes you more to this aggressive and demeaning behavior. We've gotten so used to it though. I know I have, but I like the idea Dani and others have proposed in making an honest effort to un-normalize this behavior when it is safe to do so. At some point, we as women shouldn't have to think twice about what we're wearing, crossing the street to avoid commentary, changing our route entirely, or hold our heads down when we walk somewhere. We have to speak out against it and effect change. 

The Silent One 190 pts

 LaFemmeSphinx I've gotten used to it as well.  The harassment has been happening since I was 13, and at 26, it doesn't appear that it is going to stop anytime soon.

Sunshine789 752 pts

 The Silent One "The thing for me is that even though I am 26, I frequently get mistaken as a teenage girl. " OMG - this! I used to get this all the time when I was younger! When I was 16, I looked like I was 11. Very old men would hit on me all.the.time. Gross.

The Silent One 190 pts

 Sunshine789 I can only imagine how old I looked when I actually was 16, or maybe my face just has not aged since then.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 The Silent One You know, I didn't even get into the whole offering a ride thing. After several bad car accidents, I did not drive for a couple of years. If I was standing at a bus stop or walking, I regularly had men pull over to ask if I needed a ride! Like, why would I get in the car with some strange man? Eew!

The Silent One 190 pts

 dani-BBW What I have not completely figured out is why a woman or girl on the bus stop or walking down the street signals to a man that she is in need of his assistance (car ride), but the same does not happen to boys and men.

 

I think men don't see women and girls as strangers, but rather an opportunity for sex. Men don't fear women.  Otherwise, they probably would not offer car rides to random girls and women walking down the street.  And what gets me really is when I decline the ride, the guy will act like I rejected a once in a lifetime opportunity.

MySmile 4282 pts

 The Silent One Ugh..same here!!! Almost every freaking day...whether I'm walking across the street from my apartment to school or getting off the bus to go to work or somewhere else...I used to laugh it off  but now I'm starting to get annoyed...

Sunshine789 752 pts

Great topic! I have wanted to talk back many times, but I am usually too afraid. Past boyfriends have gotten a bit upset wondering why I didn't get more lippy and instead just let it pass. But I am a small woman, and I can't afford to have some idiot confront me when I am alone. Even if there are lots of people around, I am not entirely convinced that anyone, save an old lady, would jump into a fight on my behalf. And I wouldn't want to put other women in the position to have to defend me. It is sad, but fear rules:(

keimiasmoon 1073 pts

 Sunshine789 I totally understand, I already know that if things truly went down in my Bronx neighborhood there would be few who would come to my aid. 

JannaAshley 585 pts

 Sunshine789 

 

It is sad, because you really can't take the physical risk. Too many times I've seen freaking videos of women being attacked with unhelpful bystanders. There's always been a problem with bystanders not coming to anyone's defense, but these days people like to record all things horrible to share on the internet. Drives me crazy.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 Sunshine789 Yeah, I would only speak up if you are in a safe place, like there are police within eyesight, you're in a community that is likely to turn on a guy getting too aggressive (I've seen this on airplanes, at restaurants, etc), or you have a guaranteed exit (you're about to drive away). We want to unnormalize this stuff but your life is definitely not worth it.

JennMJack 1270 pts

This series really hits home for me. I am extremely tall (6'4") and have been so since I was 12. To avoid the street calls, I uglified myself for most of my teen years. I would wear Jordan's and swag like the boys so people would leave me the hell alone. But, by 16, all my womanly stuff started growing, I had put down the basketball and I wasn't lanky anymore. Thats when I pretty much couldn't go anywhere without being addresses inappropriately by total strangers.

 

I had a dude follow me on a bus, to a nail shop, then to my house where my older brother promptly threatened to kick his ass for harassing me. But, this was a normal occurrence. I have heard men say some of the most disgusting things to me for not giving them the time of day. I grew up in Oakland and since leaving and moving to LA, I haven't seen street harassment to that level. But, it is indicative of this notion that women are available to men. Like we are objects for possession.

 

It's scary. This is a great article about a sore subject that many don't like to acknowledge or address. But, we shouldn't have to be afraid to run errands or dress nicely in public. It is ridiculous. But, speaking up (and havinv others around oyu who find the behavior equally unsavory) is definitely the first step.

keimiasmoon 1073 pts

 JennMJack I used to wear baggy clothes and my shirts had to cover my butt. I've moved to the Southwest, where I finally feel safe to enjoy feminine clothes. 

The Silent One 190 pts

 keimiasmoon I used to wear men's shirts because they covered more of my body and allowed me to cover my butt.  At one point in time I realized that one of the reasons that when I was younger and did not like wearing women's shirts was because I didn't like how they made me feel exposed.

LaFemmeSphinx 286 pts

 JennMJack Yes, yes, yes! (Ugh, what is it about Oakland btw?!!!) I'm tired of having to reconsider what I'm wearing every two seconds and ask myself if I just should've worn sweats. Some days a burka doesn't sound like a bad idea. I shouldn't be so afraid to walk out the door that I have an anxiety attack. I'm in fashion, needless to say, I don't wanna look like a bag lady. I must admit, some days it seems safer. But, we shouldn't be rearranging our lives, routes, errands, and clothing in order to feel like we can walk down a street unscathed.

 

We have to speak up, we have to take steps to make the streets safer. 

Sunshine789 752 pts

 JennMJack I have noticed that how I am dressed does not matter much. Some of the rudest comments I have heard were on days that I was running out to get some milk in my sweats, hair under a hat, not even showered. I think some men do it just for the shock factor, like a sport. They aren't interested in actually getting to know you. Most don't expect it to go anywhere or actually get laid. They just like screwing with women's heads.

JannaAshley 585 pts

 Sunshine789  JennMJack 

 

It doesn't matter how you dress. There's been times I've looked a mess and some fool was still trying to talk to me. Guys know the majority of the time they will strike out, so they just hit on every-damn-body, in any situation, waiting for the one who will accept their crap. The thing is, if they knew how to be respectful in the first place they'd have better luck.

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 JannaAshley  Sunshine789  JennMJack "Guys know the majority of the time they will strike out, so they just hit on every-damn-body, in any situation, waiting for the one who will accept their crap."

 

THIS.

The Silent One 190 pts

 Sunshine789  JennMJack It doesn't.  I've been honked at in the middle of winter while wearing a scarf over my face.

MySmile 4282 pts

 Sunshine789 Exactly..I always get honked at when I look a mess and when I look good too...but I know some of the guys just want attention...they didn't even get a chance to have a good look at me.....what REALLY annoys me is when they keep honking until I look (sometimes I don't). It's like they're saying "look at me, look at me!"...like a little kid..ugh!

The Silent One 190 pts

 MySmile  Sunshine789 I experience that as well.  The most honks I ever got at one time was six by a taxi cab driver who was entering the highway as I walked down the sidewalk.  That got my attention because you don't honk at someone six times for no reason. But, I've gotten so used to being honked at that I don't turn my head to look, which leads to the guys honking more times.  

 

Earlier this year when I was standing on a bus stop, a guy honked at me and when I didn't respond, he turned to my side of the street as the bus was pulling up.  I couldn't believe how desperate he was being.

starzzzy 475 pts

I've never really experienced street harassment, but I have experienced this behavior in my early years on a college campus. It ranged from "SAY GIRL! WHAT'S YO NAME?" to "AYYY GIRL CAN  I WALK UNDER THAT UMBRELLA WITH YOU?" Needless to say I don't take kindly to this behavior and it has always been a young Black man yelling whatever new catchphrase he thinks will work. I had to learn to give them my dirty look. Typically, they would either shut up or say something like "aww why you being stuck up?". How am I being stuck up with you yelling at me and generally making us look bad at this predominately white learning institution? How is that my problem sir? 

 

On the other hand, some girls answer to these guys when they act like this, which reinforces the men's behavior. I will be having a talk with my 11 year old niece about this behavior from guys. She does not have to put up with that and any man worthy of her attention better learn how to talk to her correctly. 

thecrazyartist 2420 pts

 starzzzy

 This is basically what I experience daily at my college, in fact I didn't really experience street harassment until I started college.

 

"How am I being stuck up with you yelling at me and generally making us look bad at this predominately white learning institution? How is that my problem sir?"

 

I really feel you on this one.

keimiasmoon 1073 pts

Ugh, I have many street harassment stories from living in the Bronx, starting from when I turned 12 years old, but the one that broke the camel's back was when my mother sent me out to get the newspaper a couple blocks distance from our house.  As I was walking the street I heard "AYO FAT ASS!"  A few people turned heads, I couldn't figure out where it was coming from. "AYO FAT ASS!" I looked and noticed a slim BM shouting at me from across the street. "YEAH I'M TALKING TO YOU!" he said. Suddenly I felt smaller than a mouse. I hurried to the store, not listening while he shouted something unintelligible at me. I still remember the embarrassment I felt at being disrespected in front of everyone on the street. I remember the woman and man in front of me snickering. 

 

Now this part I admit, might be a bit crazy depending on where you live. On the way back I confronted the guy. He was where I left him,  hanging outside one of the bodegas. I told him that I felt really hurt and disrespected by the way he talked to me. "Why would you talk to me that way?" I asked. He seemed uncomfortable and embarrassed. "Nah miss, I'm sorry, I didn't mean nothin'. "   The fact that he looked embarrassed and uncomfortable was more a victory to me than the sorry, but I doubt it changed his behavior for good. 

 

It does need to stop and I'm tired of ignoring it too. 

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 keimiasmoon I trust that you sized up your surroundings and took a calculated risk. Just yelling at someone in public repeatedly, who is obviously ignoring you, is so incredibly rude. Not to mention the absolutely disrespectful things he yelled. What's interesting is these guys only act like this when other people are around, once you came back and the original crowd was gone, he was much more contrite. SMH.

Veron 1412 pts

"to having a car full of guys chase me on a highway"

 

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dani-BBW 1840 pts

 Veron Girl, that was some of the scariest stuff ever. 

Toni_M 20113 pts moderator

This is great advice and thanks for the info (And to Brenda for the additional links). Great post!