Come Hither: Dirty Old Man or Experienced Lover? Let’s Talk About it!!

Come Hither: Dirty Old Man or Experienced Lover? Let’s Talk About it!!

I’m often the predator, but a young girl couldn’t walk around being plump and juicy without coming to learn about the dreaded neighborhood phenomena known as the DIRTY OLD MAN.

Author : Tracy Renee Jones

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Let me tell you something about me……. I’m, shall we say, energetic……

I’ve been burning the candle at both ends since my infant days. I would tire everyone out with my boundless energy, questions and curiosity. Most people, including kids my own age, would tap out of activities just when I would be getting warmed up.

It always seemed like people couldn’t keep up with me. I’ve since learned to accommodate this inequity, but I digress.

I’ve also always been a very a physical female; strong, aggressive and deeply in love with all things that increases one’s heartbeat.

When I started chasing boys, dating and having sex, same shit, the variety of sexual experiences taught me that not all men are created equal.

What’s the payoff after having maneuvered my time away from my Dad’s watchful eyes, a trip across town, scratching up bus fare to get to the place I’m not supposed to be, and then sneaking in and out of windows, fire escapes and/or by sleeping parents on the couch ?!!!

Not five minutes, I’ll tell you that! #truestory

But since I’m the studious type, I kept going with my social biology experiment. With a pocket full of condoms and a standing appointment at Planned Parenthood, I went where no other woman had gone before. To gain experience with sex.

I approached sex the same way I approached everything else, I sought to learn it, and to master it.

Positions.

Sex toys.

With the lights off……and on.

During the sunrise and as the sun went down. From sundown until sunrise the next morning.

I learned that not all men are created equal after all. I didn’t have to be disappointed by a lazy, inexperienced, or stamina lacking lover. I have standards, and the men better be able to keep up if they hope to ever see me again.

My palate is quite developed these days…..

I revel in the chase.

The dance between male and female.

I’m often the predator, but a young girl couldn’t walk around being plump and juicy without coming to learn about the dreaded neighborhood phenomena known as the DIRTY OLD MAN.

Like a goblin that lives under the bridge, I would be minding my business wandering through my young teen years, when he reveals himself. Tacky, hairy, and sleazy, he looks like every unsettling man you can think of, and he’s honed his Spidey senses onto me.

DIRTY. OLD. MEN. are only after one thing. They prey on young girls and they have horns and hoofs, so I heard.

DIRTY. OLD. MEN. are to be avoided at all cost, lest a dirty old man turns YOU into a puff of smoke!

DIRTY OLD MEN become embedded into a female’s brain as something disgusting, but in time, things may begin to change. As she gets older, the bridge between maturity, adulthood and shared interests lessen with age. The social distance isn’t so hard to adjust to once you get some life experience under your belt.

I dated a creep of an older man who only went after young pretty girls in need of ‘assistance’. I avoided him like the plague until I buckled under the pressure of my friends. I allowed him to take me out for drinks at the local after work watering hole. Though too eager to please me, he was very nice and generous. He seemed excited and nervous during our exchanges. He never did anything strange, but the feeling that something wasn’t right was still there.

Blah. Blah. Blah and a whole lot of liquor and many moons later. We spent the night at the hotel. It was a beautiful place that was quite expensive. He nearly fell down the stairs as he attempted to keep up with my skipping up the steps two at a time back when I had knees that did that cool shit.

I slept like a baby in that bed while he pouted, huffed and puffed over his inability to ‘enjoy’ our evening.

I was only slightly annoyed. If I”m in bed with you than I expect some action, dammit.

I had guys my age whose flag flapped in the wind when it was supposed to be at full staff, its depressing.

I began to associate age with (even more likely) sexual dysfunction, in addition to the awkwardness and inability to keep up as I had already experienced with previous sex partners. DIRTY. OLD. MEN., the boogeymen, weren’t allowed on my radar, at ALL, thanks to this guy.

In time, he fell to wayside, resentful that he had found himself in a room full of diamonds, yet he lacked the hands to grab his fill of riches now that he had his chance.

DIRTY. OLD. MAN. And life went on.

IT guy was only a few years older than I, when we met, but at 40, I still considered him an old man while in my late 20′s.

Caramel skinned, and a recently retired Marine, he made coming to work not so bad first thing in the morning. With a minor in Computer Sci that I had just withdrawn from, I was hired to be his assistant, he kept my secret and taught me everything I needed to know about logistics infrastructures and computing.

Since I was a fast learner, it wasn’t long before we were able to spend most of our day hidden away in the catacombs of the warehouse, giggling and joking like two school age kids. We had ‘great chemistry’ if you get my drift and I think you do.

His Scorpio went very well with my Capricorn. We were from the same general neighborhood in Newark, and had many other things in common. He was so intelligent, our conversations spanned topic and subjects, both of us passionate and assertive debaters. A heated exchange produced a Hallmark card and chocolates once. We weren’t boss and the chick under the boss any more. #pun

Well.

Blah, blah, blah… happened and let’s just say he changed my mind about ‘older men’. I had an amazing affair with him, peppered by laughter, lovemaking, life lessons and intimacy. I crawled out the room, got the chance to play in a power exchange relationship and his body was dope as Hell. #semper fi

I miss that guy…….*rocks and hums*

Fast forward to not to long ago when I befriended a brethren blogger who shall, hopefully, remain nameless. I would wait on his articles to publish just so that I could read the beautiful words that come from his mind.

Adult themed essays never seemed so when he wrote them, regardless of the topic, or subject matter.

If words were foreplay then he gave good dictionary.

The awareness, open mindedness and freedom he expresses in his writing represents all things a woman would want to have embedded in the heart of the man she’s sleeping with.

I watched for as long as I could without making myself known; I later found out that he had been reading my adult themed pieces as well. #gamerecognizesgame

Work needs on the web site we wrote for required us to communicate via chat for blog meetings, it wasn’t too long before we began our own personal internet friendship. He and I exchanged numbers and have only spoken on the phone a hand full of times.

We spent the night talking that first time, all the way until sun up the next morning, I remember listening to him say something profound as the orange of the sun bled into the dark dawn sky.

I held the phone against my ear like I had done to my Princess cordless back in the 90s.

I waited for the words to fall out of his mouth. He said nothing naughty and everything tantalizing. Nothing insulting, and everything irreverent, intelligent and bare knuckles face front.

We sincerely discussed everything personal, private, contrite, intimate and sexual.

We were mind fucking…and I loved it.

At some point when adults discuss personal details, age does come up, hearing that he was 20+ older than I caused me to bat an eye. Just one.

I still held a bias against older men. In my mind, any man significantly older than I qualified as a DIRTY. OLD. MAN.

I’m still un-learning childish things…..

Fast forward nearly a year later. I am running around Manhattan lost.

A die hard New Yorker, my writing amore tried his best to text me back on the right path so that I could make my lunch date. It wasn’t happening, so instead he suggested an impromptu meet for us.

He gave me directions that I was actually able to follow, and kept check on me as I moved from street to street, he did better than Google map ever did.

I arrived on the correct block, he saw me coming before I recognized him. A loud obnoxious whistle  loud as I crossed the street in search of him. I turned to curse out whoever was doing the whistling or throw a dirty look, when I realized it was him.

He apologized that our dinner would have to be discreetly priced, as he was recently laid off from a position he held for many years. I didn’t care if we went to McDonald’s, where means nothing to me, its always the who that I give a fuck about it.

We make our way to South Street Seaport and into a restaurant that I had often stared at from the outside but doubted I could or would indulge in the cost of ever eating in. The waiter addressed us promptly and my now ‘date’ responded in a very masculine decisive way.

As he stepped aside to allow me to walk ahead of him, I realized how much I enjoyed and was accustomed to being treated as the ‘lady’ by a man who enjoys being ‘the man’. The better part of this realization is the fact that although we can both adhere to gender roles, neither of us are so embedded in the robotic existence of ‘man’ and ‘woman’ that there was no room to also exist as ‘human beings.

He requested a seat by the back next to a picture window in the nearly empty restaurant.

“I thought you would enjoy sitting back here. You like the water and there’s a great view of the skyline here.”

Chair pulled out. I am seated.

We began light banter that was rudely interrupted by my inability to remain focused.

His eyes.

His voice.

His laughter.

The NYC tough sounding accent conveyed opinions and a vocabulary that betrayed the poised man sitting in front of me. He’s lived three lives, and has loved women through each of them. Down and out. Rebellious. Renewal. Humility. Full circle awareness.

No wife. No children. Not on purpose.

I was just as intrigued by him in person as I was while reading his work and during our phone conversations.

I stared intently at him across a candle lit table, as the sun set in the New York harbor. I saw a lot of things, but age wasn’t one of them.

When faced with too many options, I get overwhelmed, this means that I should not be left alone with a menu and asked to make a decision. I will consider each item, twice, and still go with burgers or fries or something I know I eat just so that I’ll order something, otherwise, I won’t eat at all.

He was aware of this, from our conversations, and so he suggested three options of things that I do eat that adhered to my finicky eating habits.

Problem solved.

When presented with the wine option.

What? Who…?

He chose a splendid wine that had something to do with something about the food and type of toes made to create it, and I loved it. We had more conversation, and more laughter, and a delightful ROMANTIC date.

The check came. The meal was paid for. The waiters and servers were graciously thanked and compensated. I had my chair pulled out and coat slide onto my shoulders by a man that smelled ‘like that’ to me.

An extended walk to the train led to us taking cell phone pictures of objects rather than each other. The crowded street forced us to walk closer together, his arm always gently on my back to lead me in this direction or that. I was disappointed to find us standing outside of the train station.

More talking as people bumped us and shot annoyed looks at our taking up precious commuter train dashing space.

Uncomfortable looks and apprehension from me. I had let my ‘dirty old men’ opinion be known early on and my date was absolutely platonic behaving up to this point.

My train was about to leave and I couldn’t miss the last thing smoking to my home state.

Normally, I’m the predator, and then I decided to be prey by stepping into his personal space to give him the go head to do what comes next.

“What about your ‘dirty old man’ policy?” He teases.

“I sure hope so”, I respond over my shoulder as I run for my train.

What made me change my mind? Because judging by age is kinda stupid and the only person missing out on an awesome guy will be me and I hate missing a good meal!

He’s in better shape than many men my age and much younger. He’s experienced in life, and also with women both in and out of the bedroom. I know we have plenty of purity police here so does a man having a sex life previous to one with you make him ‘damaged goods’ or an experienced lover for you to enjoy?

So….I said all that to say:

What’s your feelings about older men? When dating, its easy to fall into using stereotypes to judge and dismiss certain people. Why do older guys unfairly get a bad rep when it comes to being considered as viable mates and partners? I know we here a lot about Viagra but before the onslaught of the magical blue pill there were still plenty of men who had the gusto naturally.

What are the benefits of dating an older man? I sure did enjoy a man who understood traditional roles who also happens to be very forward thinking and progressive due to the years he’s had on this Earth to work on himself.

What are the drawbacks? Age doesn’t equal death when 30 year olds are dying of heart attacks and others live to be 100. If there are no kids involved, doesn’t this just become a case of two people who are considering their viability as a couple or is there more to it?

Have you dated an older man/woman?

Say something so I’m not here talking to myself dammit!!

#TeamShadesofGrey in full affect!!! Whose with me……?

 

 

 

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Sophia 486 pts

When I think of dirty old men I think of the losers who hit on me when I was a gawky teenager.  They picked up on my lack of confidence and vulnerability and zeroed in on me like vultures to a prey.  My high school friends and I crushed on boys our own age or on the cute young male teachers in their twenties.  Older teachers were never on our radar.  That changed wen in my mid-twenties I became involved with a man in his early forties (but who looked no more than 30 yrs old).  I had a wonderful time with him. 

In my observations, I think the age difference becomes less relevant sometime around one's mid-twenties.  The couples I know of where there was a significant age difference (usually with the woman getting married in her early twenties and the husband being significantly older i.e. 10 or more years), the marriages ended up very shaky as the young woman would grow and mature and reach the emotional and intellectual level of the older men.   

Furthermore (and this is my personal observational only) I notice in my circle of acquaintances that the few women who persisitently express a consistent preference for older men all have what I call "daddy issues".  They won't look at a man near their age, but only at men 10-15+ years older.  I am in no way saying that women who end up married or dating older men have daddy issues (I dated one myself) but the ones who I know who always do, definitely have those issues.  

ForeverSerenity 340 pts

I haven't read any of the comments yet, but I will and can't wait to read! But first let me say, Tracy gurrrrllll, wow! You write so divinely, I couldn't wait to get to each line to see what was next!lol!  I've always liked older guys. Nothing wrong with them. Not that there's anything wrong with the young ones either! I could tell you about an incident I had a few years back, with a blue-eyed-brown-hair gorgeous whose eyes I could have gotten lost in..if I were free and single...but I had to halt him when he happened to be where I was the next day...he had no idea I was married...  Way before that, before marriage, and my other half came on the scene, there was a French man...let me tell you...Tall & ever so handsome...who says older men don't have it...for the ones who have the confidence and are aware of themselves, nothing like it!  But my better half of over 20 years is 8 years older than I am. And he's still got it, muscles and all! I love his body, and thank heavens he still loves mine! tee hee...Now, about that guy, I hope you didn't leave that attraction hanging...sounded like a great fit....! (fishing for more)LOL!

tracyreneejones 3596 pts

 ForeverSerenity you reminded me that I need to send him this post so that he can read what I said. We're still friends, and he's busy these days, but he's not far, at all. We've got all the time in the world....that story is still being lived..for now. :) 

DarlingNikki69 318 pts

My cousin met her hubby when she was 20 years old. They were married less than 3 years later, and they didn't leave each others sides until he passed away this last Sunday. He was about 22 years older, and he worshipped the ground she walked on. He had three kids from a previous marriage, grandchildren, and they have to boys together. They had a beautifull life. I remember the look on his face when she would walk into a room. That had never changed, he spoiled her rotten, and respected and love her to the day of his death.

 

It can work.....

melissamak007 230 pts

 DarlingNikki69

 What a beautiful story.

DarlingNikki69 318 pts

@melissamak007 Thank you, Melissa! You know I talked to her the other day, and she sounded so at peace, and had so much joy in her heart. It was very touching. She knew she had something beautiful. My parents are the same age, but there story is sweet. They will be married 51 years in March. They've known each other since 8th grade (something like that). They go to to doctors appointments together, grocery store, and gambling trips. They're very young, and spirited, and still enjoy each other. So, when I look at relationships....those are the images that I hold tight too. They all had normal issues, disagreements, etc to work out, and through but at the end of the day...they all would agree that they made the right choice, and they do not regret it. THAT is inspirational.

melissamak007 230 pts

 DarlingNikki69  melissamak007 

It most certainly is.... Your sister sounded like that ( at peace) because even though her husband is no longer here, she experienced what most people look for. It is so nice that you have such great examples of what a relationship should be like. I have know people who haven't. So, sad to say they don't think it exists.

Maria Scot 37 pts

Now you have a good life. Sounds like a movie! As for me, my first ever ever crush was my high school English teacher. Man he looked like Jay Gatsby- thats who I imagined Gatsby would look like reading it. He was so handsome, classy- wore vintage suites, loved the Rolling Stones, well traveled and philosophical. He was 11 years older but he still had that boyish charm which made all the girls go crazy. I remember once I saw a tattoo through his white shirt probably done at University.. its amazing how much tattoos tell you about a person. My world fell apart when another teacher said that he liked older women... :( life 

Oh side note. I wanted to ask you about books lol. The NYC setting of your story reminded me of 9 and a half weeks. No not the incredibly cheesy movie but the book. I heard it was really good, quite strong and sad but a good read. 

tracyreneejones 3596 pts

 Maria Scot I wouldn't say I had a 'good life' but I do have good relationships with men. I've also got the propensity to go with the flow and see what adventure is waiting for me over the hills. This has helped me live a life filled with stories like these.....any woman can create a collection of memorable loves and lovers. If she chooses too :) 

melissamak007 230 pts

This post was great. A few years ago I dated a man that was more than 20 years older than me. I met him where I used to work. We always had really good conversations (which, I am sure is as important to everyone on this blog as is it to me). So, we would flirt etc. He is a successful artist and he gave me one of his pieces. Very sweet. BUT, he was going through a divorce at the time.  I believe that if something is meant to be, it will be. I wasn't going  to pounce on him with all these emotions he was surely experiencing. So, I leave my old job, and we reconnect on Facebook a few years after that. We started dating. I can remember a friend asking if I felt that dating someone substantially older was "nasty". Evidently I didn't. Dating an older man definitely has it's advantages. It just has to be the right older man. We are not together anymore but it didn't have anything to do with age or race (He was White). Now, would someone please write a post on the advantages of dating a younger guy?? If it hasn't been done before, of course. The man I dated before I met my boyfriend was substantially younger, Indian and one of the best relationships I ever had.

DWB 7641 pts

 melissamak007 Ahh ... a little something, something for the cougars?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBr8bXJyWSw

melissamak007 230 pts

 DWB

 Teehee... This is where I put my nose in the air and tell you I'm a puma!!!

DWB 7641 pts

 melissamak007 Well now!!!!! ;-)

 

Something to aspire to!

 

I used to aspire to be a Dirty Old Man -- the "good" kind -- SUCCESS!!!!!!

melissamak007 230 pts

 DWB

 Yes, exactly! 

 And I know exactly what the "good kind" is! *Winking* I know a few...All good people, by the way.

tracyreneejones 3596 pts

 melissamak007 Ha. Lovely story. I just turned 40 a little over a week ago. And I am beating young men off me with a stick, a flimsy one, because I do date some of them, so I have updated and ongoing stories to share. And I did warn him that I would be discussing us. Either here or an erotica piece. I wanna hear about this young Indian man....do tell.  

melissamak007 230 pts

 tracyreneejones  

I am 38 now. When we dated I was 36. He was 22... Sigh. Anyways it took me forever to give him my number ( we emailed until then), forever to actually go out on a date with him. Even though I found him very attractive, I was thinking to myself  "This is a child. isn't it?"  I mean, I am always preaching to my friends about limiting themselves with men. To never rule out a certain age, race, religion whatever. Just because you never know who is going to move you. But then, I wasn't taking my own advice. My rationale was that he was just too, too young. So we finally go out. I had a great time! During the time that we dated we had so much fun! We did local stuff, traveled together, spent time at home. Our. Chemistry. Is. Crazy He lives, not even 5 minutes away from me driving. The problem was mine and only mine. His age kept me from thinking too far ahead. It was only an issue with me, I might also add. I told him that we would always be cool, no matter what. We still text and talk sometimes. But, I try to limit contact with him. Out of respect to the relationship I have now and... I really didn't have a valid reason to break up with him in the first place.

 
heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 melissamak007  tracyreneejones 

I actually would like to hear more about Indian men and Black women relationships! 

melissamak007 230 pts

 heyimPearlilikefries  tracyreneejones

 You know, it was interesting. He was always super respectful, and he is very mature. I am sure he owes that to his parents. His father was fine with our relationship. And when I say fine, I mean, the times I met him and later saw him (for dinner or what have you) he was always very nice. His mother on the other hand... Let's just say she was nice but wary. As, I guess she should have been. I have an Indian friend. We've been friends since we were 12. She has an older brother who was favored by her parents. He always dated Black women when we were growing up. He eventually married a Black woman. Her parents were fine with it. I don't know if my ex's parents would have been quite so comfortable. And it may have just been the 14 year age difference, not anything related to race.

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 melissamak007  tracyreneejones 

That is so awesome and refreshing to hear! I barely hear about those relationships. 

melissamak007 230 pts

 heyimPearlilikefries  

Very true. My ex was very eclectic, like me. He didn't have all Indian friends, or listen to a certain type of music. It's a mixed bag. He didn't put himself in a box. When I met his friends (which was very early on) they didn't act like there was anything unusual about our relationship either.

 
heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 melissamak007 That is so amazing! 

The Working Home Keeper 6638 pts

 heyimPearlilikefries  melissamak007  It is very interesting and refreshing to hear!  In college, one of my friends (BW) dated an Indian guy briefly and it caused a major uproar in the Indian student community on campus.  Some of them even threatened to call his parents back in India.  My husband had an Indian guy roommate that dated a WW, but eventually broke it off because his parent disapproved.  So, it's nice to hear that not all Indian men and families are like that.  Recently, I was caught off guard when an Indian man started flirting with me!  And, quite aggressively I might add LOL!

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 The Working Home Keeper  melissamak007 

Wow that is crazy! I believe that more Indian men date outside of their ethnicity a lot more than women. I read that on Wikipedia so it may be wrong. I think black women and Indian men relationships would work out really well, some black women have trouble figuring out if a man is flirting with them! LOL 

 

I would be very upset if people acted like that! "I'm gonna tell your mom" CRAZY

melissamak007 230 pts

 The Working Home Keeper  heyimPearlilikefries

 I an only imagine. I've known Indian people who would probably faint, disown, and die (in that order) if their son or daughter brought home a girlfriend or boyfriend that wasn't Indian.

melissamak007 230 pts

 heyimPearlilikefries  The Working Home Keeper

 I think that (from what I know of Indian culture) the son is so celebrated and revered he may have a little leeway. So, what you read on wiki may be right. Sometimes, I am absolutely oblivious to guys flirting with me. Sometimes not. I've been that way since I was a teenager. Which is odd since I enjoy subtly.

melissamak007 230 pts

 heyimPearlilikefries

 As I get older I become a lot more relaxed about certain things. I don't stress nearly as much as I did in my 20's. But, it puts you at ease when things go a certain way. I was actually joking with my friends prior to meeting his about what 20 year old do nowadays etc... But to piggyback off one of my other comments. It would be great if everyone was like my ex.

LadyLittlefoot 664 pts

 melissamak007  The Working Home Keeper  heyimPearlilikefries I'm a product of an Indian & Black marriage and my mother was disowned for a time for marrying a black man. My grandfather eventually came around but my great grand father never acknowledged any of his mixed race great grands. His loss.

melissamak007 230 pts

 tracyreneejones

 And I am not surprised you have all the young guys flocking! Smart, lovely women are always popular!

DWB 7641 pts

 melissamak007  tracyreneejones A good woman, like a good wine, only IMPROVES with age!

tracyreneejones 3596 pts

 DWB  melissamak007 I've got the biggest cheese grin. And I know what you speak of. the chemistry IS CRAY CRAY...the sex....*sigh* I"m a sex writer that is too bashful to write about HIM....how's that for some rotten apples...? 

tracyreneejones 3596 pts

 melissamak007 You make me blush...thank you!! 

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

This is just awesome! LOL 

 

But yeah... there are some dirty old men out there. But the thing is.. it's a lot of young guys who act just like them.. I guess it makes it bad because they are older! LOL

tracyreneejones 3596 pts

 heyimPearlilikefries You bring up a good point. Now that I think of it, creepy is ageless. There are some men with unibrows and too tight high water pants that stare a certain creepy way in all ages and races. Creepy is universal, and everlasting.....I swear I love me some Pearl. 

heyimPearlilikefries 2091 pts

 tracyreneejones  Oh so many creepy people in this world!

 

It makes me wonder if some women would bypass creepy behavior in a younger man, but when they see it in an older man they realize it. 

Anne34 74 pts

I loved this post! Tracy I love your writing style.

 

Just to add my two cents: My husband is 15 years my senior. I met him when I was 23. Before I met my husband I was against dating older men. Of course I was in college then and the gulf between where I was in life and where the older men I came in contact with was much wider. I was still trying to find my way and start a new life independent of my parents. Once I graduated and began my career my thoughts changed. As I quickly advanced professionally I began to realize I had more in common with older men. They were more on my level intellectually and, quite frankly, financially.

 

I suspect that some of the woman who’ve said they can’t imagine dating older may also have a change of heart once they get older and their circumstances change. For me, the change came when I started to see the value in men who knew their own minds and had no time for games younger men play. In general, with older men what you see is what you get. They are mostly set in their ways and know what they want. Also, I was so over friends who were broke and could never go out. It was nice to be with men who could go to nice restaurants and take weekend trips. This goes back to us being on the same level.

 

My only caution to women who date older men is: If you’re someone who wants to have a family you need to have that discussion with your boyfriend much sooner than you would with someone closer to your own age. In fact, the timeline for vetting your potential partner speeds up exponentially when you are in a relationship with someone older. Just something to think about…

tracyreneejones 3596 pts

 Anne34 Girl, yes. I know folks who met, got along, had some discussions, and made decisions and then a marriage, or moving in and a baby. AT THE SAME DAM TIME! It's nice to find that person who knows what they want, so both can proceed on their path to get that golden ring, whatever it may be. :) 

The Working Home Keeper 6638 pts

I actually prefer older men :)  Prior to dating my husband, I dated older men - the oldest being 20 years my senior.  I'm drawn to masculine, traditional men.  Men that are confident and settled, not easily carried away by emotions.  Plus, my Daddy was 13 years older than my Momma and they were married for 48 years!  But, I did end up marrying someone closer to my age.  My husband carried himself in a very mature manner though :)

DarlingNikki69 318 pts

I love your writing Tracee. It's always on point.  I remember being 22, and going out with a narcotics cop who would've done anything for me. He was 43. The problem? He used to whine and complan about his age, and how he thougt I was going to leave him for someone close to my age.   The sex was quick and bad....and I was f****ng irritated.

 

However, the majority of my experiences with older men have been quite pleasant.  I have more tosay, but I have the damn flu and can't concentrate....shit. 

m008 147 pts

 DarlingNikki69 *waits patiently*

 

:-)

MySmile 4175 pts

 KingsDaughter In my personal opinion..and at my age now (23)....

 

A few years older: yes!!!

 

more than 6 years older: thanks, but no thanks...

 

around 10-15 years older: starts getting kinda creepy

 

more than 20 years my senior: Dirty old man!!

KingsDaughter 4671 pts

 MySmile  Yep totally with you there! And most older men tend to come with too much history, ex-wives and kids etc NO thanks.

BeautyIAM 1290 pts

As of now, I have no interest in being with a man that is significantly older than me. I've already had experience of an older guy wanting to be with me and it wasn't pleasant. I think I was too naive to figure out that this guy was really interested in dating me or something. I think he just wanted to take me out for a good time, but I just was not feeling it AT ALL. I really did find him to be a dirty old man. He looked his age and beyond. Not to be too shallow, but if he actually looked handsome for his age, then it wouldn't look so bad to me. But his looks coupled with this I'm so fu***** awesome and I'm a genius attitude was incredibly annoying. I found it strange that he would still be interested in me when I can still pass for a sophomore in high school.

 

I do think there are older gentlemen that are not so creepy to be around. So for women that are interested in them, go for it!

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Brenda55 19650 pts moderator

 jakethewrestler 

 

 "I am not a  valuable contributer." 

Don't know why you feel that way?   Happy trails.

Skayi 514 pts

For some reason I love older woman/younger man relationships. I'm cheering for the cougars.

Brenda55 19650 pts moderator

 Skayi 

See here is a case where life is not fair.

Woman 10 years ore more  older than the guy = cougar

Woman 5-10 years older = Puma

 

A guy just gets called a DOM (and not the good kind) 

WorldTravelingChic 636 pts

Brenda55Skayi

I don't know that guys who date women who are 5-10 years younger are viewed as DOM. Traditionally, I believe it was looked upon as a good thing for the man be a few years older than the woman in relationships because it meant he should be in a place to provide financially for a family. It may just be the case in my personal circle of friends and acquaintances, but most women I know would choose an older man over a younger man any day.

 

Now, when we talk about DOM, we're usually talking about guys who are in their 30s and 40s hanging around the high schoolers or men in their 50s and 60s who only date women in their 20s (especially if they have kids who are older than their dates).

Oaktown Paul 844 pts

My availability to date younger women is defined and limited by my daughter.  She is 22.  We both play (on the same team) in a co-ed sports league where 90% of the women are under the age of 32.  (By her standards, far too young for me.)  She has vowed (bless her heart) to pour a pitcher of beer over my head if she ever sees me chasing after women well below my age range.  It's funny, everybody on the team knows this (cause we joke about it) and it works.  Because, quite frankly, older guys who "chase" well below their age are often viewed as "creepy."  And to do this around my daughter would obviously embarrass her.  No reason for this.  As far as I can see, there are plenty of attractive women closer to my age who I can introduce to my daughter --- without getting beer poured on my head!!!            

Brenda55 19650 pts moderator

 Oaktown Paul  

You knew this was coming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAHQ-9Fniac

Oaktown Paul 844 pts

 Brenda55 LOL  Your link should have a disclaimer.   Best enjoyed by those 40 and above!!!