Iran and North Korea: A Tale of Two (Would-be) Nuclear Powers

Iran and North Korea: A Tale of Two (Would-be) Nuclear Powers

Could these two crazies end all of us?

Author : Jamila Akil

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Iran and North Korea have both had ambitions to develop nuclear power. Iran is a security threat to America and Israel, while North Korea is not (and probably never has been). Iran is a security threat because the President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad continues to pursue the operation of a nuclear program, despite warnings and sanctions from other nations designed to curb the regime’s nuclear ambitions. Iran claims that nuclear power will be used to provide energy, however many other nations believe that Iran wants to develop nuclear weapons.

Iran has long defied the wishes of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the United States, and several European states that have been attempting to discourage the Iranians from operating a nuclear program. IAEA inspectors left Iran in late February 2012 after being denied access to a site where it was believed that nuclear weapons development was taking place. Iran has accused Israel of the assassination of Iranian nuclear scientists who died in mysterious car bombings. Yet nothing the rest of the world does seems to curb the Iranians desire to enrich uranium and develop nuclear power.

North Korea is a country that has existed under a military dictatorship for over the last 30 years. At times, the country has pursued the production of nuclear power and has suffered economic sanctions from Western countries for continuing to attempt to enrich uranium, which can used to build a nuclear weapon. North Korea has recently agreed to halt development of its nuclear program and allow inspectors from the U.N.’s International Atomic Energy Agency to enter the country to ensure that uranium enrichment had been stopped at a particular facility; in turn, the United States has agreed to provide food aid to the country. If North Korea complies with this new agreement, then the threat posed by this regime will have effectively been neutralized to the rest of the world, particularly South Korea.

Iran and North Korea are similar in that they both apparently wanted to develop nuclear weapons. Both nations have been isolated by large blocs of the world community at one time or another–Iran is now being isolated by the US and some EU member states, but Russia still seems willing to do business with the belligerent nation. North Korea has suffered severe food shortages over the previous decades; and the border between it and South Korea is diligently monitored by the South Koreans, who regularly perform drills to prepare for the possibility of an attack from their northern neighbor.

Which Threat is Worse?

What is different between Iran and North Korea is that Iran has not yet stopped its nuclear program while the North Koreans are now willing to come to the bargaining table. Even though North Korea has withdrawn from negotiations in the past, there is hope that with this latest round of negotiations and agreements, the nation will finally give up its nuclear ambitions for good.

But what of Iran?

Israel has said that it will not wait longer than a few months to perform a military strike to destroy nuclear facilities in Iran. President Barack Obama has urged the Israeli leaders to give sanctions and negotiations time to work, in the hopes that Iran will be willing to halt its nuclear program.

I believe that the Israeli’s can and will strike Iran, and that the nation will unilaterally choose to do if Iran does not back down.

If war does break out between Israel and Iran, all of the work that the United States has done in the name of nation-building in the Middle East will be undone. From the looks of the recent protests against the US in the Middle East, there may not be much progress left to be undone.

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yvonnelee 195 pts

The US propaganda machine is in full gear. This reminds me of the Bush-Blair WMD fiasco leading up to the Iraq war. I guess Iran is next on Israel’s hit list. 

 

Jamila 7254 pts moderator

 yvonnelee If Iran doesn't stop what they are doing and let the inspectors in, I think that that Israel should blow up those facilities. Ahmadinejad has said repeatedly that he wants to wipe Israel off the map; the Israeli's cannot, will not allow a nuclear armed Iran.

yvonnelee 195 pts

Jamila

What is it that Iran is doing?

 

The associate press claimed an unidentified source (a.k.a Israel) provided evidences of activities at Parchin, but now that’s been proven to be unfounded.   The US-Israel can't go around fabricating stories.  If Iran has to be transparent so do the other members.

Tammy_Ghalden 867 pts

Iran does not have many friends in the Middle East. Wikileaks revealed that a few of the Sunni nations asked the U.S. to do something about Iran. The Sunnis and Shi'ites, as seen in Iraq, do not get along. Iran is a Shi'ite nation.

 

The situation with North Korea is not as serious because it was so hard to take Kim Jong Il seriously. North Korea has just been extorting the international community for food and energy. The new leader, Kim Jong Un, is possibly retarded.

Law Wanxi 5807 pts

Sanctions don't work.  They only hurt the little people, the citizens of either country.  The ruling elite get whatever they want.  The picture fed America is of empty streets and starving people of North Korea.  There is much starvation in the countryside, but the hand-picked population of Pyongyang is doing fairly well.  

 

They have modern cars:  http://youtu.be/6YVIBawHaQY   They either buy them from Europe where they're made or import them through China.  They trade, on a hard currency basis, with China for food, fuel and commodities.  They have some prison camps located near gold deposits and the prisoners mine gold which the government uses for foreign exchange.  Some of the Ginseng sold in the USA as Chinese is actually grown by prisoners on North Korean farms.  They get hard currency by other small means, such as operating chains of restaurants throughout Asia where the staff lives in the restaurant and every piece of profit goes to Pyongyang.  I've been to two of them in my travels, the Pyongyang KorYo in Shanghai and the Pyongyang Mudanfeng in Beijing.  North Korea also supports themselves rather nicely through the drug trade, although little of their product finds its way to the USA; same thing with human trafficking, particularly prostitution and low-cost slave labour.  North Korean engineers are quite good at tunnelling and the government sells their services abroad.  They have extensive relations with Iran and provide some of the nuclear expertise that Iran needs for their various nuclear programmes.  The DPRK has some joint ventures with China up by Dandong on the Yalu river border and trains go in and out of the DPRK to China every day.  They have a small border with Russia near the ocean and there is some trade there too.  The DPRK workforce in the joint ventures is obedient and educated and pretty much work for food from the cafeteria and a few Yuan a day.  Much cheaper than Chinese labour and the products are mostly apparel items later exported as Chinese made goods.  You might even have some in your closet.  

 

I know a couple of Norks and they're OK; just a little strange.  They got out and made it to South Korea and then came to the USA to operate small businesses such as convenience stores and dry cleaning shops.  Their children are STEM workers and students, as they're no strangers to hard work.  I know there's somewhat of a dehumanisation programme underway for Norks and Iranians in the media, but they're really just people.  I know some Iranians, too.  They're OK.  They're not monsters.  In the USA, they easily become 'model minorities' keeping the American system running smoothly for y'all.  Their home country governments might suck, but, think about it; we're not exactly loved outside our own country either.

 

 

dasdbobb 1383 pts

I agree with you.Iran is something to be feared in as much as they can and will develop WMD. What worries me is the fact iran has said not in so many words they will use them in israel, US forces in and around the gulf, and friends of the US> Saudi Arabia. Iaeael we all know has tactile nukes, whether they are cruise missles or smart bombs no one but the military knows for sure. Israel will use them if iran nukes them. The US will use them if they use them against us, or our friends. This could get real messy in a short time. If Israel takes out irans nuke facilitys, they will attack us with conventional weapons in the straits of hormuz among other places. this in turn may very well convince N Korea thier resume thier program, and they may attack Japan, s korea or even hawaii. they do have a icbm with the range, just not very accurate. they even have the range to hit the Aussies. All this is kinda scarey worse than the cuban missle crisis in '62. At least in '62, we really had an idea what was happening. Today we don't. Domino effect.