Social Graces 101: Manners and Social Graces in Courtship and Romance

Social Graces 101: Manners and Social Graces in Courtship and Romance

I wonder what the world would be like if men and women treated each other well in romantic situations, is it possible there would be fewer broken hearts in the world?

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    Social Graces 101: Manners and Social graces in courtship and romance

    “If a gentleman approaches you with words of flattery, and profuse attentions, especially after a short acquaintance, extend no encouraging smile or word; for a flatterer can never be otherwise than an unprofitable companion. It is better by dignified composure, to appear not to notice, than, with smiles and blushes, to disclaim flattery; since these are considered as encouragements for further effusions of these “painted words”

    – The Ladies’ Guide to Perfect Gentility, 1856

     

    “Never trifle with the affections of a man who loves you; nor admit of marked attentions from one whose affections you cannot return. Some young ladies pride themselves upon the conquests which they make….let this be far from you. If you see clearly that you have become the  object of especial regard to a gentleman, and do not wish to encourage his addresses, treat him honorably and humanely, as you hope to be used with generosity by the person who may engage your heart.”

     – Martine’s Hand-Book of Etiquette and Guide to True Politeness, 1866

     

    The more I research antique books on manners and social graces, the more I find the value in certain codes of behavior, especially when it comes to dating and courtship. If correctly applied, the rules were set up to protect both men and women from the poor intentions of each other and serve as an inspiration for them to look for suitable marriage partners. Though people married for different reasons, I am positive love was still somewhere in the equation for many.

    You have to love the sense of irony in regards to human nature. As King Solomon said, “There is nothing new under the sun” and if such measures had to be taken then to ensure each side was kept honest, how much more is this needed today? One only needs to look around.

    The translation of the first quote could not be any more clear, if a man you barely know “comes on strong”, he is up to no good. Don’t encourage it and ignore him–he is trying to get under your petticoat. This tidbit of information demonstrates that very little has changed in over 150 years in the relationships between men and women. Men in the 21st century are still trying to flatter women into compromising situations and sadly the “game” seems to have not lost it’s power. One hundred and fifty years later, do we women still not get it? Sadly no and Kleenex and Häagen-Dazscontinues to make millions at our expense.

    The second quote holds women accountable for not  leading a man on who has made known his intentions for marriage if she is not interested. She is not to play games with the heart of a man who is interested in her. She is to treat him with respect and be forthright with him, considering how she would want to be treated by the man who captures her heart. We may argue that this information is antiquated and old fashioned, but one thing that cannot be disputed, people getting used and their hearts broken was as devastating in 1812 as it is in 2012.

    For those who still feel such an approach to dealing with men and women romantically is outdated, to them I suggest watching “Kate and Leopold”.

    It is the story of a Duke from 1876 who follows Kate’s ex-fiancée’ through a portal in time to the 20th century. He meets Kate and becomes smitten with her. Kate’s cynical attitude due to her heart being broken by her ex makes her think that his chivalry, sensitivity to her needs and efforts to protect her make him “weird”.  The fact he was from another time did not impair his ability to treat women well, in fact, it served him well to say the least. In a night club with Kate’s brother Charlie he helped Charlie win the affections of a girl he was smitten with, enabled Leopold to challenge Kate’s boss’ intentions  in seeking to sexually compromise their working relationship and enabled him to write  a love letter of apology to Kate when his anger got the best of him.

    Regardless of time, social standing, race, etc. I believe that most people do not want to be taken advantage of romantically by those of the opposite sex, they want the essence of those old fashioned values to be applicable today. I wonder what the world would be like if men and women treated each other well in romantic situations, is it possible there would be fewer broken hearts in the world?

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      Betty Boo 165 pts

      My friends fiancee' (now deceased) would stand up every time she left the table and stand every time she came back. The husbands and boyfriends of the other women would give him a hard time saying that now their wives and girlfriends were giving them grief. His response to them was "I have one lady to take care of and I am going to what you do or don't do with your woman is on you." Some of those rules were unfair like women could not own property, bank accounts, vote, etc. but many were not created to make a woman look weak or incapable but to point to the importance of protecting her. The practice of a man walking on the outside of the street near traffic came from a practice in europe. Much of europe did not have indoor plumbing do people dumped their chamber pots in the gutter so when carraiges drove by that raw sewage could splash up on people. so the men walked on the outside to ensure her dress was not soiled with filthy sewage water.

      I support old fashioned chivalry and respect for women. kate and leopold is one of my favorite movies!

      SirLoinDeBeef 378 pts

      Sadly, the prevailing attitude among the WW 'goddesses' is that courtesy, manners and elegance in treating your lady-fair are evidence of weakness ... being a loser ... setting oneself up to be trampled on - however, on a positive note, those BW who 'snag' a rainbeau who does these things, have, by definition, a truly strong man, able to resist peer-pressure.

      Just sayin'.

      Pearl 1375 pts

      SirLoinDeBeef Well this 'goddess' loves and EXPECTS to be treated like a lady, and uhm Why do these WW do that I have read that and seen that too many times were they would snark at men who open doors for them? How would they want them to be with their future daughters, do they not want a manly, masculine figure in their life?

      Law Wanxi 1911 pts

      SirLoinDeBeef

      Manners died in the late 60's - early 70's. The hippies [now greying baby boomers] killed them; slowly, so that they could watch them suffer and then have some tantric sex on top of the corpse.

      Last year, in the summer, I was walking past a store when I saw an old woman heading from a car to its door. I always have time, and if I don't I make time, to help the elderly. Part of my backward non-hipster culture; 5,000 years of silly rules. So, I bounced over and held the door for her. A 40-ish WW breezes past the old woman, looks at me and proudly announces "I don't need doors opened for ME." Normally, I'd act like I didn't hear it and just consider the source. However, I was in a spectacularly pissy mood that day, a record-setter. I looked at her and said "I'm not opening it for you, I'm holding it for that old lady you d%mned near knocked over getting here."

      She gave me the 'angry feminist WW face', you know that one, all puffed with rage that some chinaman would dare talk like that to her. East meets West. I shifted my visage into The Chinese Man Face. You know the one, it's the silent sheer cliff inscrutable one that makes Russian border guards blink and think twice. She backed away, through the door, unwilling to turn her back on me. I looked back to check on the old lady, whose speed could be clocked in feet per hour. She told me she was going as fast as she can. I told her not to worry [I think I actually said "不用擔心", then corrected myself quickly, LOL] and take her time. She did, made it through the door and into the lobby. She thanked me and I said it's OK, grandmother. Another quaint Chinese custom, referring to very elderly people as grandmother or grandfather. She smiled and I went on my way. Total elapsed time about two minutes. Cost; nothing. Value; priceless.

      Karla 1679 pts

      Law Wanxi Do I ever loathe the sense of entitlement some people have. Similar story for me but WM who, apparently, thought I was a doorman or lawn jockey. He's a jacked-up WM now.

      SirLoinDeBeef 378 pts

      Law WanxiSirLoinDeBeef Kudos to you, my comrade-in-manners (please forgive the personal note, but you/my attitude is rare) - and I did look up congee = rice gruel.

      edenifill 69 pts

      Law Wanxi It's also great that you have respect for your elders. I was brought up with that, but it seems to go to the wayside in North American culture.

      Betty Boo 165 pts

      @Law Wanxi I I am glad you put that WW in check! but I do not believe those obnoxious feminazi's for one minute don't embrace chivalry, they do they just talk a whole lot of crap. if she was so gung ho about opening her own door she could have waited until you let the eldelrly woman through, waited til the door closed and opened her own door. it amazes me how alot of these women want it both ways. For example, they run around screaming to be equal with men and they can do it themselves but when things happen that require they are held accountable like men, THEN they want to cry and play the woman card like when female teachers sleep with their students. SMH.......

      Blackberry 306 pts

      law Wanxi SirLoinDeBeef Look I am staunch feminist, but when a man holds a door open for me or offers me his coat when it's cold...I just say thank you. Ya know, because he's being polite. Letting a man do something for you is not a sign of weakness. Jot everything is a power play. Sometimes an open door is an open door ---- just walk through it!

      tracyreneejones 50 pts

      The things you people say (I love it....). I watch from a distance and bite my lip and then I go and write. Manners, indeed. My lover mentioned something to me about this very topic that had my eye twitching but it was the truth. *starts typing*

      Pearl 1375 pts

      I have learned that when you act like a lady, you influence the men to be gentlemen.

      Joyce345 705 pts

      Pearl

      Not only act like a lady but also expect men to be men.

      There are some men who do the gentleman thing for the sake of it, but I have learned that men do what you expect them to do and what you let them get away with. That is the reality.

      edenifill 69 pts

      Joyce345Pearl OMG! If there is any lesson in dating that is one of the most important to learn it is this one. Women set the rules of engagement early.

      FriendsofJay 271 pts

      Pearl That's the most positive comment I've ever heard a woman make about how men and women should act. When a girl acts like a lady, a guy just naturally wants to treat her that way. It brings out the best in him. A pearl of wisdom. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

      Pearl 1375 pts

      FriendsofJay Aww Thank you :-D

      Karla 1679 pts

      Ah, the beauty of old-fashioned courtesies. I've often wondered why manners and gentility have been abandoned. I have a few ideas as to why: laziness, selfishness, the thought that manners make one weak and submissive; nothing could be more untrue. One of the reasons I fell in love with my husband is because of his old-fashioned manners. After having dated men without them, it took a little getting used to. He opens my car door, tips his hat to women (yes, he wears beautiful fedoras in the winter time), opens doors for me, orders for me at restaurants, always stands when a woman enters or leaves the room, walks on the outside nearest the curb; my mother loves him! More than once, I've heard other women who have observed his behavior say to their men, "Why can't you be more like him?" Men have stared, outright, at him, sometimes with hostility and sometimes with disbelief. I think courtesy between men and women is not outdated and can certainly make for better relationships. If I had a private school, lessons in good manners would be a requirement. BTW, "Kate and Leopold" made me want to swoon; Hugh Jackman at his best!

      LovingMyself 192 pts

      Karla Is this too much to ask for, to expect of a guy - of a man? To me, when a male does these kinds of acts, they appear SO much more masculine! I have no idea why nowadays it seen as being 'weak' or not 'hard.' Utter crap imo.

      Karla 1679 pts

      LovingMyself It's funny but in my dating years, I didn't expect it and now that I've been with my husband 18 years, I love it and would expect nothing less. You are so right. It makes men seem so much more masculine.

      Toni_M 2678 pts

      I loved Kate & Leopold.

      I think the irony in casting aside age-old wisdom as "dated" is that it leaves one unarmed and unprepared when dealing with the kind of men being warned about. Women are left even more confused and vulnerable when they could have by-passed this all together by taking the advice found here.

      The wording may seem "strange", but the advice is sound.

      EliseYMason 135 pts

      IMO our society places some kind of shame on a woman for being too girly(aka weak)

      unfortunately for me I was raised that its a blasphemy against GOD to act/dress/think like a man,

      ergo- I've always had more male friends than female, go figure??

      And something girls looking for chivalry don't get usually is that if you want him to open doors for you, you must first STOP opening them yourself.

      And be willing to walk away from any guy who doesn't treat you like a lady, no exceptions, no second chances- first impressions are everything.

      Pearl 1375 pts

      EliseYMason The only heat I get for being so lovely and girly, is from women.. I am mostly so shocked, they say I need to grow a pair.. of b*lls.. not even boobs eh.

      Toni_M 2678 pts

      PearlEliseYMason I'd tell them you have no interest in a sex change but you can recommend a good doctor if they need one.

      LovingMyself 192 pts

      EliseYMason "And be willing to walk away from any guy who doesn't treat you like a lady, no exceptions, no second chances- first impressions are everything."

      I think that for some women they don't know HOW a guy is supposed to treat a lady. For example, I was once talking to a guy and we happened to have exchanged numbers. The first time he called me he started cursing up a storm telling me how his day was. Cue this ---> O.O expression on my face. I said I had to go. That was the end of that!

      Pearl 1375 pts

      LovingMyselfEliseYMason You know I have found that every time a guy curses in front of me, I pop him lol, it sounds weird but they usually get it, or I say 'language' and the third time they let it slip I just walk away until they chases me telling me their sorry. Another thing is DON'T EVER have a man honk the horn when he picks you up, he walks his but up to that door and KNOCK. :-D

      EliseYMason 135 pts

      PearlLovingMyself exactly!! its so hard to walk away from a "possibility" at first but you realize that every min you spend with the wrong guy is a min you wont with the right one

      Pearl 1375 pts

      EliseYMasonLovingMyself YES !

      FriendsofJay 271 pts

      EliseYMason Most guys LIKE girly girls. That's something no woman should ever forget.