BB&W Exclusive: “Corset” Editor, Arielle Loren Talks Black Women and Oral Pleasure

BB&W Exclusive: “Corset” Editor, Arielle Loren Talks Black Women and Oral Pleasure

Whew! It’s gonna get hot in here…

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Arielle Loren is the Editor-in-Chief of Corset Magazine, the go-to magazine for all things sexuality. Embracing curiosity, honoring sensuality, and celebrating sex, their most recent issue tackled all things Oral Pleasure from oral sex to taste of food.

She took some time out of her busy schedule to talk about the new issue, and what (if any) hang ups black women have about performing and receiving oral pleasure.

Why is it so hard for black women to embrace oral sex?

I actually think that many black women do embrace oral sex, but simply don’t discuss it in public. The black female writers in our magazine are the exception, and don’t mind sharing their stories on a public platform. However, it’s rare that I come across a black woman in private that says she doesn’t participate in fellatio or receiving cunnilingus. On the basic level, oral sex is a powerful part of foreplay, getting your partner open, and creating an arousing physical connection. It’s also great for stimulating momentum during intercourse to keep you and your partners’ genitals lubricated, receptive, and attentive.

Up until recent history, oral was something that only white women did. Why was that?

In our Oral Pleasure issue, we have an article called “Swallow Your Prude: The History of Oral Sex,” which actually reveals the exact opposite. When it comes to sex, people of color or African descent have been engaging in oral sex for centuries. If you look at art inspired by the Indian Kama Sutra or ancient Egypt, there are countless visual depictions us openly enjoying oral sex. The stereotype is that black women don’t enjoy giving oral sex to their male partners, and that it is a “white woman” thing to do. But again, it’s rare that I come across a black woman that says she doesn’t participate in performing fellatio. I’ve even had conversations with women in their 70s about this topic, and they’ve affirmed that they’ve gotten down too in their day. Some might prefer receiving versus giving, but black women orally pleasuring their male partners is not a recent thing. We just might be more open to discussing it in public now.

Do you think women who don’t embrace oral sex are in jeopardy of having their partners develop a wandering eye?

I think it depends on the partner. If these women have male partners that don’t need or desire oral sex, their preferences likely won’t be an obstacle. However, if these women are with men who want oral sex and aren’t receiving it, that’s an issue of sexual incompatibility. So yes, I expect there will eventually be issues, whether it’s a wandering eye if they’ve agreed to a monogamous relationship or simply conflict about how their partners want to experience pleasure with them. However, I also feel that men and women, particularly in long-term relationships and/or with children, need to be aware of how outside factors could kill their sexual desire in general. Many women are tired after a long day of childrearing, taking care of household responsibilities, or numerous other tasks that many women juggle each day in addition to being wives or girlfriends, so I do feel that their partners need to work with them to alleviate some of that responsibility and stress. That way, they can have more frequent, open, and fulfilling sex.

Can oral sex be learned, or should we just accept that some women and men are better at it than others?

Oral sex can absolutely be learned. The Oral Pleasure issue has numerous step-by-step articles for women and men looking to orally please their partners. While some may learn faster than others, oral sex is a learned skill. So whether you’re looking to improve your talents or teach your partner how to please you better, there’s something in this issue for everyone.

Corset Magazine’s Oral Pleasure issue is available for download at http://corsetmagazine.com along with the past Orgasms and Nudity issues.

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Renaissanceman 31 pts

Oral sex is definitely a part of the whole sexual gamut. I feel that people who are afraid of it, are repressed due to religion usually, and it's a deal breaker. My GF and I love doing that to each other, and certainly technique is learned, yet, it is a natural way of expressing loving feelings and intimacy.

Pearl Rose 1182 pts

Can we talk about circumcision vs. intact? I'm reeeeeally interested in that. I mean as much as guy's talk about their junk they don't talk about THAT part. They have some really strong feelings about it on the internet though.

SirLoinDeBeef 2527 pts

 Pearl Rose Most guys didn't have the choice to cut or not - it was done to them & dictated by religion or medical fad (going back and forth about every 50 years).

Pearl Rose 1182 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef That's the thing they get so pissed about on the internet that they didn't have a choice. Some even refer it genital mutation. And I think in the 40's or something they HAD to get them circumcised, something about a disease in the army. I think religious reasons are alright, but just doing it over unproven medical facts is a bit too much for me or for the men anyway. NOT on babies! They are just born and then you go cutting on them I mean how much blood should a baby be wasting when it's just born?

Renaissanceman 31 pts

 Pearl Rose

 I was born in Europe, and therefore am a "skinhead." That hasn't hindered my sexual life here in USA at all; including my AA sweetie.

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Pearl Rose 1182 pts

 Kia Oh god thank you Kia! I tried so hard not to get irritated by her comments! LOL You run into adults like that sometimes though always to criticize but not really giving advice or links here, which makes me get a little well eh. I ran my comment past my mom of course she didn't see anything wrong with it. Black girls are in a bad state right now sexually and church is making everything worse and the parents don't even want to talk to their kids about it because the church says otherwise. Black boys really have no idea about stds, condoms but some how know all the positions waiting to hand their penis out to all the girls! As young as MS kids. Age is important but 'readiness' is too I know black girls (thank god) who just don't want to have sex right now that are over 18! I watched a documentary about teen sex in america and how it's so different in Europe. The whole documentary was just so crazy to me about the different mindsets about sex. I'm just happy that I'm able to even talk about it without even getting paralyzed. And I feel the more you know about it the more you wait! Well in my case anyway.

Pearl Rose 1182 pts

 MayaM He's always been hot to me, now he's a little bit hotter. 

JannaAshley 583 pts

Loving the comments lol, I'm so amused right now :D

I never knew why that was some sort of myth. I've never really gone into tmi about what I do personally, but I just assumed most people, not all, would enjoy oral sex. My first bf was black and that's all the sex he was willing to have because he was supposed to wait until he was married to have "real" sex....

My last ex is hispanic, so is my current bf, and they also gave/give. I LOVE it lol. I just say if you're gonna do oral it MUST be done with enthusiasm!

Jamila 7285 pts moderator

Not directly related to oral sex, but...

 

I went in today for a doctors appointment and the nurse asked me to open my mouth and stick my tongue out as far I could so that she could look at my throat, as I'm going to have to be intubated during my upcoming surgery and she wanted to check to make sure I had no problems with my oral cavity.  When I did as requested she looked, promptly leaned back into her swing chair and exclaimed, "You have the widest clearest throat I've seen all day! We won't have any problems when we need to insert a tube down there during surgery!" 

 

Awkward!!! lol 

 

Karla 18246 pts

 Jamila Awkward but good info to know!

tracyreneejones 3596 pts

 Jamila Hi five, muthafudda!! 

SirLoinDeBeef 2527 pts

 Jamila During a physical some years ago, a couple of 'articles' were deemed to be excessively large by my physician ... who, abruptly, refused to treat or even personally see me, after that.

Awkward !!!

Law Wanxi 5812 pts

 Brenda55 

That last woman was the hottest and the next hottest was the second woman. I like a woman confident enough to let it go grey. Slightly OT, but am I the only one who has noticed how seriously hawt Christelyn's co-author Janice is? There's something about the curve and definition of her clavicles and that grey hair that just makes me...  Well, enough of that; back to work.

MayaM 178 pts

I really wish that people would stop saying that black women dont give oral to get hits on their blog.  I am not talking about BBW cause this was an actual post on Madame Noire not long ago. Also, people do it for some kind of publicity.  I dont know any black woman who does not enjoy giving or at least receiving oral sex.  We perpetuate myths about ourselves.  Just because we dont all advertise it like white girls does not mean that we dont do it.

Karla 18246 pts

When I was in high school, I read a book that went into detail about giving.  I practiced on bananas, carrots (when I was alone because my parents would have freaked).  I got so good at relaxing my throat, I could "swallow" spoons; it was a party trick.  Needless to say, I was thrilled when I finally got to try the real thing and I've never looked back.  Thankfully, my husband shares my sentiments about giving (praise be!).  Um, is it hot in here?  BTW, the magazine is fantastic.  It's a "must see"!

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@Karla Practice makes perfect and isn't it nice to have a willing, persistent husband. They make life worth living hallelujah! LOL. Yea maybe it's baby-making time.

Karla 18246 pts

 eugeniaberg I'm out.  Gotta see what hubby is up to... "Oh, Don!"

Pearl Rose 1182 pts

I'm for fairness. Period. If you won't, why would I? I'm not researching on oral sex  so when it finally happens you tell me I don't want to 'do' you its nasty! That's BS. Maybe I should have some kind of flyer that I hand out or some kind of paper you sign so I won't have to waste my time. Because I will dump you delete your number and not talk to you.  I'm not waiting until we're married or in a commitment for you to say 'Oh, I don't do that!'  

Black Women With Other Brothers 1656 pts

 Pearl Rose Uh...aren't you a 16 year old school girl?? I mean...

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Law Wanxi 5812 pts

 DeeDeeRussell  Pearl Rose 

[...dialing Roman Polanski's lawyer...]

tracyreneejones 3596 pts

 Pearl Rose  I'm SOOOO DONE RIGHT NOW!! Much respect, Pearl Rose. We learn from your presence as you learn from ours. 

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eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@Pearl Rose @DeeDeeRussell I'm stepping in as mod, I'm about delete all these posts. I'm not anyone's mom but I think this has gotten out of hand & Everyone needs to go to there corners.. So I think this is too much and this is coming off, PERIOD. And anybody start up again I do have the power to ban you.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

Please don't think I won't do, let's all have some respect on here.

Brenda55 19648 pts moderator

eugeniaberg PearlDeeDeeRussell

Dang a gal steps away from the monitor for a bit and  BAM!!

Contrary to popular belief I do not live on this blog 24/7.  Close to it but not 24/7 so thanks Eugenia for cleaning the place up in my absence.

 

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@Brenda55 no problem, I just awoke to some not so nice stuff none of us want to see between bw on this blog. We got enough enemies out there, let's have issues w/ them not each other.

Black Women With Other Brothers 1656 pts

 eugeniaberg   Brenda55 I appreciate that Eugenia thank you very much.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

Bb@DeeDeeRussell it's fine, we've all come out unscathed.

Brenda55 19648 pts moderator

 eugeniaberg   " We got enough enemies out there, let's have issues w/ them not each other."

Word.

Law Wanxi 5812 pts

"Many women are tired after a long day of childrearing, taking care of household responsibilities, or numerous other tasks that many women juggle each day in addition to being wives..."

 

Sound of the nail being hit square on the head.

 

When Ranjit and I hired the three women physicians as part-time employees, all three were married, two with children. Now, several years later, they've become mostly full-time employees and two are divorced and the third one is having problems with her marriage. He feels "ignored" and "sidelined to the job" and "she only cares about the kids". Where did I put my world's tiniest violin? Dang, I thought it was in my laptop bag, so that I could always have it with me....

 

All three had live-in help, BTW, to do the household stuff and nanny up the children. 

 

Maybe if their husbands manned the eff up and started making enough money so their wife could work 20 hours a week, then things would be better, maybe. Maybe not. 

 

Maybe if they worked, say, my hours 12/7, they'd understand how their wives feel. And I don't have a wife and kids to take care of and mostly what I make for dinner is a call to a takeaway place. 

 

Men just have unrealistic expectations about women. Full stop.

 

Karla 18246 pts

 Law Wanxi http://youtu.be/IxAKFlpdcfc.  Um, did you just use the "eff" word?

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@Karla @Law Wanxi Oh if you take care of mama, mama will take care of you. If a woman is not taken care of by her husband, you will hear about it, all the time. That's how I know a husband isn't on his job.

SirLoinDeBeef 2527 pts

Some women (WW) just have to talk a subject to death - everything all rational - others (BW) JUST DO IT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYhOX-phu_Y&feature=player_detailpage

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@SirLoinDeBeef I must say one of the things I've always liked about white men & other non-bm you guys follow instructions very well. Little push on the back of the head, little hair pull, you guys fall right in line. It's refreshing.

SFbyDay 218 pts

 eugeniaberg   SirLoinDeBeef Agreed. Then there's the patience. I never have to worry about a white male moving on too fast. They are down there for the duration.

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@SFbyDay @SirLoinDeBeef Oh the dude will abide LOL. They are definitely in for the long haul, gotta admire persistence.

tonyrog 119 pts

 eugeniaberg   SirLoinDeBeef I liked when she would run her hands through my hair and then when she would climax she would try to pull me ballheaded

Law Wanxi 5812 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef 

Re the coven on the vid:  Since boys are stupid [throw rocks at them] and can't be trained, then maybe they should try other white women? It's nice to know, in advance, that it never can be done correctly enough.

 

Saves me the bother of trying at all. 

 

 

Bellydancer 789 pts

Sorry ladies I'm just not into doing the oral thing unless it's cheddar bay biscuits at Red Lobster (lol)

 

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

@Bellydancer Hmpf that's too bad, you're missing out. But I'm sure there's a man out there who doesn't want to give it or receive it. There's someone for everyone.

SirLoinDeBeef 2527 pts

 Bellydancer Now that's something I never thought of ... lobster sauce as a lubricant.

The Working Home Keeper 6638 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef  BellydancerLOL!

 
SFbyDay 218 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef I'll always remember a female comedian that joked about BBQ flavored FDS for when "you want your mon to go down." lol She was Jamaican.

DeepWater 2464 pts

 SFbyDay   Bwaaaaaahhhhhaaaaaa...."BBQ FDS".    Bwaaaaaahhhhaaaaaa.

SirLoinDeBeef 2527 pts

Regarding oral sex - this rainbeau GIVES - upon which, in process, I often wonder who moved the banshee playing the steam calliope into the bedroom ... and at what Richter Level of earthquake does our house register!

Brenda55 19648 pts moderator

 SirLoinDeBeef 

Banshee playing the steam calliope ay?

Beef this is you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GF3rWj0A_Y&feature=related

CarlaRose 234 pts

To be blunt, "it's better to give than to receive" in my case.  It seems as I approached my 30s, giving became much more pleasurable than ever before. I guess I'm a late bloomer in that way. 

 

Can't wait to read the magazine!