I might be crazy: Being a fan of Kpop, Jpop and Asian pop culture

I might be crazy: Being a fan of Kpop, Jpop and Asian pop culture

So…..Any other black of Asian music, dramas, and pop culture? What are your experiences? Got a favorite artist?

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This time, I’m focusing on being an African American woman who happens to like Kpop and Jpop or other genres, shows and dramas from Korea and Japan (could never get into Cpop for some reason).

 

When did the madness start?

 

Late 2007 was a tough time for me. A close family member was going through cancer treatment and surgery and I was struggling in my classes mainly due to being pre-occupied with family, moving, and life in general. It was during this time period I came across, DBSK’s* Japanese single, “Begin”. I remember thinking it was a nice song and even showing my mom the music video. She liked them. I became focused on working on my bachelor’s and forgot them. But, luckily for me, my mom didn’t.

The hilarious part? She was motivated to bring them back up to me after seeing DBSK in a, er, rather interesting short film (certain members of the group being hinted at being paired together). She thought it was cute and showed me. I rediscovered DBSK and that was my introduction to Kpop. Before then, I was actually a Jpop fan. I used to be ridiculously obsessed with Ayumi Hamasaki. You have NO idea. Utada Hikaru was another fave.

Why I love Korean and Japanese music and shows?

As for the music, I feel like it’s bubble gum pop in its purest form these days: Mindless feel-good music where no one gets shot or stabbed. Well, most of the time. And I don’t have to worry about hearing the B-word every five minutes. A lot of it is fun and surprisingly sex-less. Again, most of the time.

My enthusiasm carried over into a lot of the popular dramas and shows I watched religiously during the 2008-2010** period. I thought the Japanese “Hana Yori Dango” drama to be superior to the Korean version, “Boys Before Flowers”. I think T-ara’s “Roly-Roly” is far less annoying than SNSD’s “Gee” (I actually preferred “Oh!”) and the Wonder Girl’s “Tell Me” in terms of songs that were just inescapable when they were most popular.

I also enjoyed watching game and variety shows like Star King, which featured African American songwriter and Kpop enthusiast, “Pumashock” on their show. She was invited after her rendition of SNSD’s Gee went viral. My favorite episode featured a blind girl named Yoo Ye Eun who was a self-taught pianist (Warning: You may UGLY cry….). It was just nice to see something comparatively innocent when compared with a lot of what passes for music and television stateside. Well……most of the time.

 

The Bad?

 

It’s been brought up before that South Korea and Japan have a serious racism problem. South Korea is, I’m fairly sure, the most internet-connected country on Earth. Yet it still has to have people in the international community call the country to task over things like black face and “The Bubble Sisters”. Japan wasn’t far from one-upping their neighbors with this mess. If it isn’t SNSD’s TaeYeon referring to Alicia Keys as “pretty for a black person”, it’s Big Bang’s Seung Ri (and poor man’s Justin Timberlake) joking that he was glad their driver in America wasn’t black due to a fear of “being shot”. Oy Vey.

And racism is merely just scratching the surface: I have gleaned that the happy smiling faces in videos cannot detract from the disturbingly high suicide rate (South Korea), body image issues, colorism, rape and child exploitation, etc. that goes on. That rabbit hole goes deep when you really start looking and paying attention. I remember reading where one American reporter was asking questions of a corrupt member Japanese music insider. He noted that the person seemed dismayed that he couldn’t be “intimidated” into changing the topic or not asking questions like reporters in his native homeland. Long story short: The Asian pop music industry is shady as HELL.

 

Why I might be 미쳤어?

 

I “might be crazy” because either something bothers me or it doesn’t, and I do not seek anyone’s approval or permission to tell me how that works. I side-eye the crap out of persons, but that doesn’t require I run away from all Asian music ever. Some might; I personally don’t see the point. I’ve made a lot of friends, and yes some of them are indeed young black women, that I wouldn’t have made otherwise if I’d never gotten into Kpop. Even with all the bad, I don’t regret giving the music genres a chance.

 

So…..Any other black of Asian music, dramas, and pop culture? What are your experiences? Got a favorite artist?

 

 

*Dong Bang Skin Ki; they’re also known as Tohoshinki or Tong Vfang Xien Qi, which is abbreviated TVXQ

** About midway through 2010, I discovered football and had the equivalent of a religious experience. This resulted  in other non-essential interests becoming secondary.

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Hallyu Love 317 pts

Oh how I wish I found this site when this thread was posted. Don't even get me started talking about Asian music, It would be hard to get me to stop. LOL!!!

Brenda55 19412 pts moderator

 Hallyu Love If this is something that you like and know a lot about write an article and we will post it.  We can always revisit a subject more than once. 

Toni_M 18804 pts moderator

 Brenda55  Hallyu Love YES MORE POSTS!!!

Hallyu Love 317 pts

 Brenda55 

Cool! I'll work on it! How do I submit an article to you guys, so clueless,lol?

Brenda55 19412 pts moderator

 Hallyu Love Let me know when you are ready and I will send you my e-mail.  We will take it from there.

Maiden Misty 20 pts

YES!! I'm such a huge geek! lol! XD Earlier this month I was in a Sailor Moon cosplay group at AnimeNext where we performed in the Masquerade to Girls' Generation "Gee". I'm the "token black girl". JK!! lol! (>____<) No, I'm Eternal Sailor Mercury with the blue wig. <3 =D

 

http://youtu.be/_76OESWlvwc

Toni_M 18804 pts moderator

 Maiden Misty Funny thing, I always thought if I were a Sailor Scout, I'd be Sailor Mercury. :D

Maiden Misty 20 pts

 Toni_M Ha!! She had someone for Mercury who ended up dropping out so she asked me. I guess it was meant to be!! <3 =D

JannaAshley 571 pts

Me too! Did you ever have AZN tv? The station had to shut down some years ago, but that's where I first got into watching Korean dramas and listening to k/jPop. A lot of it is super bubblegum pop lol, but fun. I have a whole collection of dramas and films (and I love finding horror films btw). I even went as far as to take a few Korean classes. I would love to get back into it, but no time.

Hallyu Love 317 pts

 JannaAshley 

I was so sad when they canceled that channel.

aceontopofkings 417 pts

The first step is admitting you have a problem and well I LOVE Korean Dramas, KPop and JPop. If anyone has Netflix I highly recommend watching the Korean Dramas Summer Scent and Autumn In My Heart (the acting in these dramas are phenomenal), Man From No Where is a good Korean Movie, I own ALL of Utada CDs (JPop Music Artist) and Taeyang is one Hot Korean Musician.

 

I guess because I'm in the Entertainment Industry I pay attention to the little details that many people may over look. But the way their drama series are written it can make you  laugh, cry, enjoy living in that moment and their series actually end. It's not drawn out like our daytime dramas over here and they have great looking people who can ACTUALLY act. I even watched the behind the scenes with some of their Acting coaches and I learned more in those interviews from their advice than the Film and Television school I went to in NYC.

 

Well all in all the Asian community delivers great entertainment which is enjoyable to watch and listen to.

aceontopofkings 417 pts

After reading some more of the comics, I didn't even get into the Anime or Manga ....but maybe I should just excuse my closet Geek behind out of this conversation (exiting stage left lol).

bfab_archie 5 pts

I have a friend who's a big fan of Korean music but I have a hard time listening to it. But I love Filipino and Indian music. I like Charice Pempengco. Filipino movies are hilarious and Indian movies are generally sex-less. 

iHeartLove 804 pts

I started watching kdramas when I got tired of the crazy sh*t on American TV. Too much sex (True Blood? WTF is that. Basically sex and blood.), too much violence, too much gross out factor...do we really need to zoom through some murder victim's decomposing corpse through his nostril and out his anus? Really? That is primetime TV right there. Just too much. 

iHeartLove 804 pts

...Kdrama addict right here.  :)

 

I have my qualms about some of the racist attitudes in Korean culture, but at the same time their racial and cultural landscape is so different than in America. If you watch Korean media it is all ethinically Koreans. Almost no foreigners. They live in a pretty "homogeneous" meaning mostly Korean society. The diversity they do have comes mainly from people coming from other asian countries especially South East Asia and they face tremendous prejudice in Korean society...

 

Its a mixed bag though. Black people are at times as racist towards Asians and most Americans black or white don't know the first thing about Korea or Korean culture. I would say most can't even differentiate between the different countries and cultures in the region...I mean, Africa is a "country," right? LOL.

Lilith_Eve 61 pts

Hmmm, I think I first got into Kpop and Kdramas via my sister who got into it via our mutual love of anime.  She was away at college and talked me into watching Kimi Wa Petto on the intarwebs.  From there I moved on to Boys Over Flowers.  The music came about after I watched Ninja Assassin and did a google/youtube search on Rain (the epitome of hawt!).  Then I discovered Big Bang, TOP&GD, and MBLAQ and B.A.P.  When I started hearing and seeing some of the blatantly racist things some of these artists were saying while appropriating black culture into their images I had to let them go.  Specifically Big Bang.  They got a huge side eye from me coming to the US, passing over hundreds of black girls in favor of a gangly white girl for their video filmed in Harlem.

 

Also at one point I was watching a show called Hello Baby where a music group is given a few children to raise for a few months.  Initially I was excited because the latest was with MBLAQ and they were given "multicultural children"  Apparently multicultural to S. Korea is Korean mixed with White.  In the first episode one of the band members was visibly upset there wasn't a black child which I found hilarious.  However, I had to stop watching.  Every single member of that band was simply color struck over one of the girls who looked more caucasian than the other.  Constantly telling her how cute she was while ignoring the other little girl.  The other girl could sense the favoritism and it was all over her face.  It got too uncomfortable to watch so I left it alone.

Bren82 1312 pts

I used to listen to Krystal Kay when I was younger. I don't know anything about rain other than the fact that he is too HAWT!!

Veron 1400 pts

I was more into the asian music/movie scene from high school into college. Now I'm pretty consistent with american alternative and gothic/operatic rock with a touch of Lady Gaga and Beyonce. Although, if my itunes is on shuffle, it's bound to play at least one asian/hindi song because my music folders are jammed with it.

 

In high school, it was more because I was in love with the look. Those men were freaking pretty... and I can't say that I didn't find it thrilling when the j-pop bands would engage in fan service (making out with each, basically). The glitter and the homoeroticism was all my 15 year old self could take. 

 

In college, I moved on from the appeal of cross dressing, and was introduced to the masculine k-popper, and international panty-burner Rain (Bi), and he just opened the flood gates. The majority of my friends were of some kind of asian decent and just fanned the flames by showing me how to get access not just to his music, but to his soap operas (KOREAN SOAPS, OMG), and his movies, which introduced me to other singer/actors of which I became their fan. Around the end of junior year my tastes leveled out... by which I mean, I didn't have time anymore to spend stalking men on the internet, so I had to just pick a genre for the ipod in my car, and stick with it.  But I never thought my musical experimentation was off or "crazy" in anyway. I mean, I knew that my parents thought it was was strange, but they thought everything I did was strange (they still do), so that wasn't off-putting in at all. I just felt like I had widely varying taste, which was a benefit in my mind, because that meant that I could hold casual conversation WITH ANYBODY.

 

I'm not nearly as ambitious with music and movies as I was just 5 years ago, but I believe that. for the most part, if you expose people, particularly young people, to new things, they're gonna at least check it out and form an opinion before writing it off just because of where it came from.

josie3144 128 pts

well I actually love J pop more because of Jero(the first person that is part black)that is a wonderful Enka singer.........Kpop.....I like MBLAQ...Verbal Jint....Izi...Tasha aka Yoon Mi Rae.....love sexy Rain aka Jung Ji Hoon...Brown Eyed Soul my fav is Park Hyo Shin.....love K dramas be

Hallyu Love 317 pts

 josie3144 

Some of the artists you listed are some of my absolute favorites in k-music.

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AnInterestedObserver 1029 pts

 Honestly.  

 

There is nothing wrong with pointing out anti-Black female racism no matter where we find it. It does not mean you hate Asian people/culture, (in this case) but anti-Black female racism cannot be combatted if it is not acknowledged. Just because I enjoy certain cultures does not mean I am going to ignore any anti-Black female racism I find in it, and that includes the American culture both Black & White that I grew up with. It is a constant struggle in a where racism/sexism exists and where people want to be stupid enough to buy into garbage idealogies that says some people are worthy of love/respect and others are worth nothing and deserve nothing.

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AnInterestedObserver 1029 pts

Honestly, I think you and I are on the same page, here but I just need you to clear up what you mean by letting them back you in a corner, and belive me I agree with you that Black women & girls should NOT be sitting ducks, but I DO think they should call out/expose anti-Black female racism/sexism WHEREVER, AND WHENEVER the see/find it. Here's the thing though, when they do that, (which is not often enough to be frank) you can guarantee that someone(s) will come along and call them "bitter", "haters", say they are "whining", or the worst of all, start with the "angry Black woman" stuff, as if there is something wrong with being angry at being abused. Worst of all is that some of these people are NOT KKK members, neo-nazis, etc but other oppressed groups or civil rights proponents themselves! That is GARBAGE and it needs to be called out and stopped. Nobody was doing that when other groups were fighting back against opression and for their civil rights, so why do it to Black women & girls? Can you imagine anti-racist/sexist liberal people  telling Black men during the civil rights movement or White women during the sufferage movement to just "not think/talk about it" or "stop making a big deal of it!", or saying "it's not that serious!" Well I certainly cannot, and I say that Black women & girls have every damn right to fight back against and call out discrimination, predjudice, and abuse aimed at THEM and THEM only, PERIOD.

MixedUpInVegas 1650 pts

Ah, youth! 

 

 I admit to being so venal as to only profess a liking for Asian food.  Vegas has a large Asian population and consequently, many merchants who sell Asian entertainment products.  It never crossed my mind to pay much attention to it beyond the music you hear in a restaurant while showing down on the good stuff.

Jazmine 233 pts

I'm a fan of Japanese and Korean entertainment. That would include movies, TV and music. I also like Thai and Chinese movies but I watch Korean and Japanese movies the most. They are the majority of my top 10 (Old Boy being #1). I watch more Asian films than American films. American (recycled) cinema bores the hell out of me. I watch more Korean dramas than I watch American TV (which also bores the hell out of me), thanks to sites like Hulu, Viki and Dramafever. I'm a  huge Bigbang fan...check the avvie. I  also like GG. I won't make excuses for the comments made by Seungri, TaeYang or TaeYeon and I won't make apologies for enjoying what I enjoy.

 

"I side-eye the crap out of persons, but that doesn’t require I run away from all Asian music ever."

 

This ^ for me too. To each their own but let me enjoy what I enjoy. I'm a fan of Seinfeld and I know many black people that watch it. Guess what, after the Michael Richards incident, I still watch Seinfeld. As do many other black people.

 

 

Karla 18226 pts

I was exposed to K-Pop when I was stationed in South Korea.  Since one of my jobs was working for the Chief of Staff of ROKA (Republic of Korea Army), I used to hang with the Korean secretaries and they introduced me.  I was invited to and attended a huge Christmas party given by Daewoo and Hyundai; the food was spectacular but the entertainment was awesome.  They had every K-Pop band that was popular at the time, performing live.  And, yes, I even have a few autographs.  I got away from it when I came back to the US but recently, picked it up again.  I like some J-Pop but not as much as K-Pop.  Also, when I was in S. Korea, I used to watch the Korean "soaps", which were subtitled for us.  I only did it because my "girls" watched them and we would discuss them later.

Skayi 505 pts

BigBang and Abingdon Boys Club. I like Jpop more than Kpop. I can't get into the movies or dramas, I don't know why. I find that a lot of the dramas have such feminine men that its kinda awkward to watch. But thats just me. There's a cute song called Chaba - Parade.

Grace80 204 pts

Well I don't care one way or another for Asian culture I've got my own things to worry about, I've yet to see a Asian interested in Africa though in a non fetish kinda way meaing the mens meat poles.. At least I don't think they exist in Africa..

blackpanthershay 7061 pts

I don't have the appropriate gif.........

EvilFrenchFries 40 pts

I enjoy kpop. I think fans need to remember that it's mindless pop music. Nothing more, nothing less. Also, you don't have to shade american music to praise kpop. I find that a bit annoying especially since kpop is heavily influenced by american music.

 

Yes, racism is a big problem for these idols. I've dropped a few idols from my ipod because of ignorant comments.

 

My favorite artist is definitely Taeyang aka the korean michael jackson.

Shulamit 1982 pts

Michelle Lee is the ish! she actually follows my blog. love her. and I know you all remember the Japanese dance troops of the 80s.. gotta love that asian culture dude,,

Ndreea 75 pts

it's nice to meet people who have my kpop mindset lol am trying to learn korean and my sister is the same with japanese and i have friends who are always begging me to visit them in korea hopefully i can do with a better catch on the language :)

emysupernova 7 pts

 Ndreea I'm also trying to learn Korean AND Japanese loll so much fun for me! I hope I can visit both countries in the next years :)

emysupernova 7 pts

Can't wait for Big Bang's comeback :D  Sorry, I had to say this

Ndreea 75 pts

 emysupernova me too loved there last album by the way ^^

Dandelion100 581 pts

 Ndreea  emysupernova 

They are going to release a deluxe edition of their Alive album with a new song included, but I honestly don't think they'll be doing new music as a group again until next year. Taeyang and GD have hinted at new solo albums later this year, plus the Alive tour will be going til the end of this year. *sigh* We'll have to wait...

Jazmine 233 pts

 emysupernova More Bigbang fans...good to see :)

aceontopofkings 417 pts

 Jazmine I'm noticing BigBang Fans are everywhere lol.

sMoriarty 505 pts

Well, as long as we're on the subject of Asian stuff we like, has anyone ever seen these old Japanese cats, who give 0 fucks about anything. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnAt85LdIxU&feature=plcp

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B9h94NcjK8&feature=plcp

MySmile 4172 pts

 sMoriarty awww so cute!!! yeah, they really don't care lol..how the heck did they stay still during all of that?

blackpanthershay 7061 pts

 sMoriarty lol My Bandit is such a priss she would never allow this lol

Booster on the other hand........

 

asiancode9 143 pts

No, there is nothing crazy about us.  My interest in the Asian culture started back when I was in the 3rd grade.  We had a culture day and we learned about Japan.  We had fun learning origami, some words, and how to use chopsticks.  Flash forward a few years it was time for middle school.  My family learned about a special magnet middle school that had Japanese as a major and encouraged me to apply for it.  I did.  So now b/c of my 3 years of intensive Japanese language and culture studies I can read, write and speak Japanese.  I'm still not fluent to my dismay.  It was also here that my pop culture interest developed.  It all stared with Sailor Moon..... hehehe memories.

High school and early community college days I was a hardcore anime, manga, and video gamer.  It wasn't until I decided to continue my education for my B.A.  that I got very serious and started to study history and the social issues of Asia.  I went to the University of Hawaii all the way from Maryland to study.  (one of the best Asian Studies programs in the country btw.)  The professors were great and I met my mentor there and he helped my expand beyond Japan to other countries.  Yes, I usually was the only black student in class but I didn't care b/c I loved what I was doing.  Anyway my point is people like us are not crazy or are to be considered strange. And any one who claims otherwise can go $%#& themselves.  ( I mean that in the most polite way possible * sweet innocent voice* ^_^)

 

P.S.- my screen name isn't some crazy Asian obsession.  My mother given, birth certificate, government name is Asia.  My mom and friends think I'm crazy and they can't understand me when I get excited hence "code" and 9 is just a pretty number. So Asiancode9. LOL

Toni_M 18804 pts moderator

 asiancode9 Ah. It actually sounds like a cool manga title. :D

Dandelion100 581 pts

 asiancode9 I'd love to major in Asian Studies but no colleges here within my range offer that. :(

asiancode9 143 pts

 Dandelion100 what area are you in?  Places like New York, California , and Hawaii have it.  Also I think Temple University in PA has a satellite campus in Tokyo if you wish to go.  I was going to go there but Hawaii gave me better Fin. aid.