Question of the Week: “Nobody Wants Me, So Why Should I Bother?”

Question of the Week: “Nobody Wants Me, So Why Should I Bother?”

Take a read. This letter really broke my heart.

Author : Christelyn Karazin

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Dear Blog Owner,

The Mammy, the Mule article about BW stereotypes has triggered some feelings in me that I want to express.

I am just so hesitant to date any man who was raised in North America due to the proliferation of these stereotypes. Actually, I doubt any white man (Europeans included) could be free from thinking these things about me as a black woman. White men are the ones who made the entire world think these aweful things about us in the first place. I realize that, while I am attracted to certain white men, deep down inside, I don’t believe it is possible for them to view me outside of the small box they created for me. If even BM believe these stereotypes about BW and if Black women…we even buy into the stereotypes about ourselves! Really, why would a white male (who is the top of society that THEY created) even bother trying to see past their preconcieved notions about me and really SEE me for me? Why would they even bother? What would be in it for them when they can have the prized non-black, ideally white woman (who can cook/clean/give sex/ be a life companion without the disapproval of society)?

I love this site, but this idea is something I really struggle with. I’m 24, and very observant about people and I’ve travelled the world and I see the same thing everywhere: men using women and hurting them just because they can. It’s not limited to race politics in USA. I’ve never had a relationship, but I’m not sure if it is possible for someone like me…to find what the creator of this site advocates. I’m too smart to fall for the BS I see men pulling around me and too sensitive to want to put myself out there. (Especially after what happened to my sister recently and him being a “Christian” man.)

I try to live my life to the fullest and be the best person I can be. I have developed a deep love for God and I love nature and animals and small children. I do my best to care for them. I garden and tend the earth, do crafts and cook and live sustainably. I have decided to travel and learn new things constantly. To make myself happy. But as for finding a sincere boyfriend or a husband- which is hard enough, even for white women who have the whole damn world at their feet-what chance do I have however pretty, thin, polite, educated, well-read, well-travelled, and civic-minded? The odds are simply not in my favor. I look at the world around me and don’t think it’s possible for a young black woman like me with my idiosyncrities. I am happy being single and a virgin, as I’ve been this way my entire life, but sometimes I wonder if I’m missing out. And then I look at the women in bad or so-so relationships and feel that maybe I’m better off like this. I am speaking candidly. Sorry if I have offended anyone.

Truly,
“E”

 

Here’s my response…

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Diamondz28x2 55 pts

Yes you are absolutely right I am just still in highschool and I know I've got my whole life ahead of me and a world filled with men waiting to be with me (not literally of course but there's gotta be at least one out there) but still the irrational side of me thinks it'll be this way for the rest of my life while the rational side is saying stfu highschool and highschool boys just suck and every body knows it. So yeah its not like I'm really desperate to be with someone and honestly I could do better off without a boyfriend seeing as how I've got my whole life to look for someone but still I just can't help but crave the companionship every once in a while, especially seeing everyone else around me with it.

zipporah 1920 pts

YOu are just in HIGHSCHOOL.....in college, its very different

zipporah 1920 pts

youy dont have to worry about being popular--you could make all kinds of friends. Sometimes its good to talk with certain trusted adults

Diamondz28x2 55 pts

This letter hit the nail on the head for me because this is exactly how I feel. Walking through the school hallways I see a cute boy I've got a crush on (a white boy) and when he looks at me I think, maybe he feels the same way at least a little bit, but then I see him talking to a thin white girl and the small hope kind of pops into oblivion. I automatically think why would he want me when he could have that.  I'm only attracted to white men, and I honestly don't see myself spending the rest of my life with any other race (I'm not saying its not possible but still) but there is an insistent part of me that doesn't think it'll happen . Ever. Simply because I can't help but think that white men will never see me that way. Idk maybe I just have to wait until college and see what happens, until then.... I'll keep on hoping I guess

The_Boss 283 pts

 Diamondz28x2

I see cute white guys at my large high school all the time. I see them looking back, and a few of them flirt. But I've never dated a non-black guy. Soon I will though. Especially in college because the university I'm attending next spring is the best in the state, attracts international students, and has plenty of rainbeaus waiting for me.

Life has something special in store for you too, so keep your head up sister. You have something unique to offer any guy, and that's your personality and your spirit. Besides, who wants a run-of-the-mill woman when luscious and beautiful black women are here to claim their rights.

MyCherie 95 pts

I'm wondering, has this woman ever met another human being? I'm only 21 and I've met my fair share of genuinely good, nice men. I maybe didn't think of them in a marriage/relationship context at the time, but with at least one of them that could have been possible. That said, ya gotta love yourself first. Anyone who can't complement your self-love doesn't even deserve a second glance or a second of your time. I think that is something she's still working on. Also sounds like she really fears being hurt... I do too. I feel like nobody deserves the opportunity to hurt me if that's all that will come of a relationship with them. But you never know until you try, right? The choice is always ours...

nikee 44 pts

yeah i feel that way too im 27 years old and i get worried but  i try to stay optimistic and believe that God will provide. I feel like that thought that i'll never find someone is always at the back of my  head. but i still try to think optimistically about it ... its not easy but well im not gonna settle and neither should you.

MixedUpInVegas 1692 pts

My dear young sister, your letter is painful to read and I'm sure the thoughts you expressed are painful to live.  Please know that you are not doomed to be miserable and alone.  You have a good heart and good intentions and those two things will take you far in life.

 

We women are blessed with our femininity; it is a beautiful gift which we should carry with pride.  We can give life and nurture it, which is part of our special beauty.  It takes a special kind of strength to do those things, and it is within you.  We can appreciate the same things in ourselves that men find irresistable, which are our body form and beauty.  Each woman's appeal is unique, and will attract a unique man who is drawn to it.  It is the natural progression in the cycle of life.  As such, we have much to be proud of in being blessed with womanhood.  Please direct your attention to your uniqueness and your feminine gifts.  To do less is to deny nature and the obvious.  That is the source of your feminine pride.

 

It appears to me that you fear risking rejection or failure; let me assure you, that fear is unfounded.  Risk is part of life and impossible to avoid.  Take it from an old lady--I have learned far more from my failures than I ever did from my successes.  When we fail to achieve the desired result of our efforts, we don't run and hide--instead, we examine what went wrong, formulate a new game plan and try again.  Success on the first try at anything is not a matter of personal worth.  It is called LUCK.  To back away from a desired goal because we fear failure is reminiscent of the old Aesop's fable about the fox and the grapes.  The fox simply gave up trying to reach the grapes and comforted himself with the thought that they were probably sour anyway.  Defeatist attitudes invariably result in defeat.  I wish I could remember who it was who said "With great risk comes great reward." (Help me out here, Law.  I'll bet you know who said it)

 

While it is natural to want to protect our soft inner selves, it is no way to live a fulfilling life.  Choose your goals wisely and never give up.  Gather your feminine pride and pursue those things that you believe will make your life more full and more meaningful.  Pay no attention to what others say about your choices; as you grow older, you will discover how little the opinions of others contribute to your personal happiness.  Use the many gifts that are evident in your letter to have the life you want and don't worry so much about failure.  You can't avoid it from time to time and it will make you wiser and more resilient.

 

Most of all, you have my best wishes for a happier future.  You deserve it, but you have to go get it for yourself.

starzzzy 475 pts

This article made me ask myself, are we women first or are we black first? I ask this question often. I definitely think that this is an issue that can be worked on with a little counseling and talking to others you trust. I think a lot of women have these feelings. There is no harm in seeking counseling especially when it stands to improve your life and how you see yourself. Counseling was one of the best things I did in my early years of college. 

Favor 10 pts

You are worthy because you are a child of God.

KinkyBottleBlonde00 229 pts

Oye, Bendito!!!! *hugs* You sound like a wonderful person who has a lot to offer someone. Since where I am in my life is not far from where you are, the only thing I can tell you that helps me is to do your best to make sure to surround yourself with people, things, hobbies, and ideas that bring out the love you have in yourself and the peace and joy that comes with it. Play with the animals, spend time with people who know you matter, watch a movie, read books, do anything and everything that you find enjoyable in life! And while you are enjoying and loving life, people will come into your life wanting to either siphpn your happiness or share it...that's just how life is :/ Be blessed!

SisterRainbow 254 pts

I understand you are coming from, E. An unfortunate number of Black women suffer self defeatists thoughts. But, many will not admit it for fear of being ridiculed. Society in general has a tendency to throw these emotional issues back in our faces, and tell us to snap out of it. But, reinforcement is sometimes projected in several inescapable places (home, work, social, etc.). It can be hard to see beyond it if you feel as though you are drowning in it...especially if you have resigned yourself to hopelessness. Those of use who choose not to talk, or don't have anyone to talk to, get lost and sometimes stay lost, and truly believe all of the negativity we hear and perceive. I am sure several of us have gone through various versions and intensities of this over a period of time.

One of the best things that I can suggest is communicating with progressive minded Black women online, in person, and especially as Neecy suggested, with a therapist. Cover all bases, if you feel like it. For me, I thought that no one could help, I was different, and that other women had something that I would never possess. I believed that positive things could only happen to other women and never to me, because I was flawed, though I could never put my finger on "my" problem. That is how far down I got, and it became depressing. Being beat down emotionally solidified it for me. (ex husband & later ex boyfriend). You have not had direct problems with men. But this society, though sometimes indirect, can still be very harmful and dismissive of your state of mind, especially as a Black woman.

Eventually, I did attend therapy, but I really wanted a Black therapist, and that did not happen. The racial aspects of my feelings did not translate well to my White female therapist. Not to say this happens with all non-Black therapists, but it does happen at times, and can be quite frustrating. Fortunately, today there are an increasing number of Black female therapists in America. At the time, I thought there were only a handful of Black female therapists scattered across America. I also thought my problem was not bad enough, and that I could live with it. So sad. But, such is life for those of us who choose to assume things and keep silent. At least you are communicating your feelings. That is the first step. You don't have to rush. But, keep taking steps, even if they are small. Every step in the direction of self love and self awareness is worth the effort.

I am glad that you kept your body to yourself. So many young women give in to men sexually, assuming that it will give them self worth, love, or value. That never, ever works. Who knows, maybe you might save it for marriage. I hope that more young women learn to value their sexuality instead of using it to bargain.

The most important thing for you right now is to develop thought transition. I did it. Honestly, it was not easy, and I fought it hard at first. It didn't seem natural and I was afraid to open myself up to change. I thought it would backfire, and that I would be proven right by my perceptions. But, ultimately, developing healthy thoughts was well worth the efforts.

I am glad that you reached out enough to share your thoughts, since you didn't have to. Helping each other is good for us also, no matter what stage of self development we are currently experiencing. Sometimes, I am surprised that I can give words of encouragement to anyone...that I have actually come far enough to be able to do this. My downward spiral started over 10 years ago, and I was still a wreck less than 5 years ago. Sharing is still pretty new to me, because I tend to be more on the quiet side (introvert). But, I have always enjoyed writing. Lastly, I love all of the encouragement that I have been given. We all know that, as Black women, we truly need and appreciate it. Reach out if and whenever you want, but no need for apologies.  :-)

SisterRainbow 254 pts

I understand *where* you are coming from, E.

(believe it or not, I did read this over before posting, but oops)

Morenika 870 pts

 SisterRainbow Well said...   I noticed that women of color are afraid of getting help.  Only until recently are some of the women of color admitting to needing someone to talk to.  Therapy is great and can help find the light at the end of the tunnel.  We women some times place our value on our sexual attributes, and that they who are using them can fall in love and see beauty.  That has failed tremendously and has been proven that those sexual attributes are not with face, and with arms attached for that person to attach back.  I know that I am no longer settling and my soul, heart, and mind must be touched first.  Thank you for your post....

Dandelion100 733 pts

@SisterRainbow You should start a blog. I would totally read it.

SisterRainbow 254 pts

 Dandelion100  Thank you. I have considered a blog in the past. I'm busy as heck right now trying to take more things off my plate...permanently. I have had 2 jobs for about 4 years and worked most weekends. Wayyy too much for one human being. I am starting to get more sleep now that I cut out one whole job recently. It was worth it. Restful dreaming is very cool. Hahaha!

eugeniaberg 7245 pts moderator

 SisterRainbow therapy was the best gift I ever gave myself, I still see my therapist from time to time. It has helped tremendously and I'm not ashamed to talk about it or advocate for it. Therapy is a blessing. 

Toni_M 20120 pts moderator

 eugeniaberg   SisterRainbow  So, so, so many black women or black people as a group would be better off if we didn't have that stupid stigma against therapy or admitting a need for help, especially where black women are concerned. <.<

 

 

SisterRainbow 254 pts

 Toni_M  eugeniaberg For many Black women, even admitting the need for therapy is like having teeth pulled without pain killers. The older generations of Black women (from just retired to well after retirement age) were largely unaware of the existence of therapy. But, even those who were aware of it it assumed that it was frivolous or only for White women.

Black women have kept so much bottled up. Those who don't always keep it in let it out in the most emotionally painful ways, typically on people they love or care for.

We shouldn't have a stigma against therapy. But, the "strong Black woman" stereotype reinforces our tolerance of not asking for help. Also, being accused of being weak if we seek therapy is another problem, because it leads to hopelessness if we believe that we are not "strong" like other Black women. Some Black women are belittled for "needing" anything that we cannot provide for ourselves.

Black women suffer racism, sexism, and other forms of discrimination. It is worse if we are being beat down by the men we are (or were) with. Phew! If anyone needs to have someone to talk to about our state of minds, it is us. Some Black women go through hell and don't even cry about it...ever. We shut down to the very essence of what it COULD mean to be us. Too many of us spend our lives numbing ourselves so that we don't have to face the raw reality of being a total wreck with seemingly no way out.

Therapy could be the best decision to make. Someone posted a comment earlier about selecting a therapist. I mean, vetting them also like we vet other things. I took the therapist who was assigned to me in the healthcare program with the job I had at the time. It never crossed my mind to seek options. I was disappointed with her patronizing tone, so I did not pursue therapy further after less than half a dozen sessions. Something that may have taken much less time ended up taking several years without therapy, because I didn't know anything about vetting and didn't seek any options. I went right back to that strong Black woman nonsense and tried to fix everything and everyone around me...except me...thinking that might work. SMH!

Morenika 870 pts

Hello, I can truly sympathize and empathize how you are feeling.  For so long I did not have self esteem either and felt that "Uh no one will even look my way."  I know I have a lot to bring to a relationship such as my love and when that one finds me, he will be the one to see my special qualities as the same with you.  You have to first work on self and looking in the mirror to say " Hey I am great and my one is waiting".  It seems that you are never rude or cruel to others ever, so you are not ever allowed to be cruel to yourself.  This includes the negative self talks and feelings.  You would never look at someone and say " No body wants you", so you can't say that to yourself.  Rise above and shine....

onmywayup 1919 pts

Hi there...well, I don't know how good my advice would be.  But I will share a little something about myself--and that is that I am just beginning to emerge from the state of mind where I perceived that no men wanted me, despite evidence to the contrary.  The issue, however, is that I was stuck in a harmful mindset, and my perception became my reality.

 

Okay, so I definitely studied more than one thing in college, but one of my major focuses was psychology.  I have noticed through studies and through real life that one of the first keys to getting what you want is believing that you can have what you want.  For example, I had a few acquaintances who were considered "nothing special" earlier in college, but then they acquired self-confidence and high self-worth, blossomed, and many people suddenly wanted to be their friends, date them, heck, even marry them!

 

Honestly, it took me three years after figuring out this "secret" to understand it fully.  I was 19 when I started finding out about this, and I am just now starting to see that it is true--that a large part of what you see is what you think and feel in your mind.

 

So I have gone on a lot about a change of mindset--but I feel that this is the most important action.  I wholeheartedly believe that without a change in mindset, your actions will still be empty, distrustful, and will lack fruitfulness.  When I tried to emulate the actions of the friends I mentioned before without first acquiring confidence, it only served to make me look and feel foolish.  People can tell when you are faking!

 

So what are some things that are changing the way I think?  I'll explain in the next comment...

 

 

onmywayup 1919 pts

Keep in mind that this was a journey, and not everything "worked" right away, but I consider nothing a failure because I learned a lot about myself.

 

1. Seeing a psychologist and a psychiatrist.  What I learned from this experience is that you should be ready to be honest and to take control of your mental health.  You need to be so invested in becoming well that you will not just accept any old person who is trying to get a paycheck. You also need to be prepared to talk about some difficult issues, or research and try certain medications (if that's your thing...turned it it was not mine.  haha). Even though it is actually more work seeing a psych doc than you would think, I actually think that the preparatory work was actually as beneficial as actually seeing the psych.  You get more out of seeing a psych when you are invested in getting better.

 

2. Changing my scene.  Making new friends, joining certain clubs, etc.  It was an interesting experience because I was easily swayed in the beginning, and joined things that would "look good on my resume" instead of things I was interested in. I also had a tendency to stick to people who were not very nice to me only because I did not see myself being able to "start over" with a new group of friends.  However, it was a learning experience because it led me to future steps where I would learn to set boundaries and not to keep "dead weight" around.

 

3. Joining a really good church or faith community.  I mean a really good one, not just any old place.  There I found a great sense of community and acceptance, and it drove me a little further out of my shell.

 

4. Traveling. Okay, I had travelled before.  But the difference is that this time, I went in with an appreciative mind.  I wasn't looking for the absurdities of other cultures and people's behaviors...I was looking for both similarities that made us human and differences that were cool and intriguing.  I made some serious faux pas, some acquaintances, and just had a newfound appreciation of humanity and culture.

 

5. Taking a break from people.  Actually, I have been doing this since early June.  I am actually just coming out of a long hiatus from people.  Not saying that I became a hermit, but I did not invest myself in forming relationships as much as I focused on improving myself.  During this break, I:

 

a. analysed my relationships with people.  I tried to see their points of view, and I also tried to see if certain people were going to be cut out of my life because they were not benefiting me or I was not helping them grow. 

 

b. focused on accepting myself through things like self-help books and banishing negative people and media.  I don't watch tv or look at popular magazines anymore.

 

c. focused on accepting myself by being more forgiving about my mistakes and seeing them as learning opportunities instead of as failures.

 

d. focused on accepting myself as a black woman by disengaging myself from stereotypes of black women and realizing that my race didn't mean a dang thing except the color of my skin and perhaps some facial/bodily features.

 

e. focused on accepting myself as a black women by realizing that certain features and attributes I had were actually desirable and marketing them as such.  e.g.

 

f. focused on self-improvement and development by becoming more invested in my education and future

 

g. focused on self-improvement and development by putting more effort into my social life.

 

h. focused on self-improvement and development by taking up activities such as running, volunteer activities, and other social activities...this time choosing the ones I wanted!

 

i. focused on self-improvement and development by improving my outside appearance and health...feeling like I was worthy of being beautiful, lively and healthy. I started exercising, eating healthier, dressing better, occasionally wearing makeup, taking care of my hair and skin. 

 

j. focused on self-improvement and development by refining my comportment, my attitude, my consideration, and my manners.

 

k. focused on development by being less self-centered and more willing to help, while maintaining my boundaries and avoiding people-pleasing.

 

6.  At this point, I am currently focusing on becoming more spiritually sound and goal oriented, so that I can handle the world instead of perceiving that it is beating me up.  I am acquiring a mindset where it is better to try and fail and be vulnerable at times than to be afraid and closed off to the world (which for me is an automatic "failure").

 

7.  I am also beginning to focus outward and associate with people again, this time looking for the good in people, for friendships and alliances with people who are thriving or have a drive to thrive and excel (not just in school or work, but in enjoying life and living well). I am somehow getting a better response from people than I did five months ago.

 

I hope that you find a way.  I really do.  I can promise you that it is really much better to "vet" people out of a place of high value and security than to do so out of a place of insecurity and fear.

 

 

 

SisterRainbow 254 pts

 onthewaydown Your list is quite helpful. I think I will borrow some of it for me. *smiles*

oekmama 1047 pts

Dear letterwriter E,

You are not alone with your feelings. It is common for most people to be struck with feelings of self-doubt or inferiority at some point in their lives. It is also common that these feelings may go away on their own, if they are not fed.

 

I think you need to come to terms with what happened with your sister and whoever that was ("him being a 'Christian' man"). You are not your sister. You are an individual just as she is. There are no 'odds' that what happened to her will also happen to you. That man is not an indicator of all men. If this is an instance of abuse, please go to the police and seek help and support for your sister.

 

I co-sign on Chris' advice that you should definitely find someone to talk to about your feelings. I wish you all the best.

Statuesque 2073 pts

While I wouldn't advise anyone to nurture feelings of inferiority or negativity (more on that later), being mindful of how women can be mistreated by ANY man and not wanting to be one of them is quite healthy.  That part reminds me of myself in my early 20s.

 

But here's the spoiler alert:  If you take a risk on love, you can get hurt.  You can trust yourself and make good decisions to avoid the worst, but you can't control everything.  I hope that you learn to let some things go and LIVE.  I grant you that a shocking number of men are an absolute disgrace to humanity, but there are PLENTY who are not. Don't take it personally when you encounter the former, and don't miss out on encountering the latter because dealing with/hiding from the DBRs has made you bitter and hostile.

 

"Really, why would a white male (who is the top of society that THEY created) even bother trying to see past their preconcieved notions about me and really SEE me for me? Why would they even bother? What would be in it for them when they can have the prized non-black, ideally white woman (who can cook/clean/give sex/ be a life companion without the disapproval of society)?"

 

I'll try a different approach to answer this question:  If you have bought into the notion that White men are on top, that they call the shots, then what follows is something you should accept as true based on your perspective. Consider that, as the perceived shotcallers, they can do whatever the hell they want, and they know it. The women of the world lie conquered at their feet, literally or figuratively.  If a White man decides he wants a Black woman, that's it in his mind, and he'll proceed.  He is not used to justifying his choices or decisions.  He's used to going after and getting what he wants.  If a White guy who (apparently) can have any woman he wants, but wants you, he has made a pretty interesting choice precisely because he can have the non-Black woman you consider the ideal prize.  But he seems to want you anyway, and these days, you can choose a quality man with good intentions instead of being subjected to whatever treatment he wishes to dole out.  So if a shotcaller makes a play, rather than ask "why" maybe ask "why not?"

 

My point is that you can't have your all-powerful, all conquering White male cake and eat it too.  The answer to your question, given the way you think about it, has to be "because he wants to."

heyimPearlilikefries 2131 pts

Okay. People want you. I honestly think you should listen to this awesome advice. And me all optimistic and giddy. I think you think too much actually, you seem really smart too. Just live and be a dumbass for a while. Don't think about everybody wanting you or not wanting you.. just do you. 

MySmile 4287 pts

    astringofpearls  Hahah I think too much too..it can be depressing..you're right...I'm just starting to do me and live my own life rather than worrying...this also means less youtube and reading the comments in places where I know many negative things will be said about bw! I hope the letter writer does the same. Overthinking is not always good!!

Patricia Kayden 1710 pts

I would say to the Letter Writer that she's right to be cautious about opening herself up, but shouldn't shut herself off to meeting a good man.  Don't lower your standards, and as Evia always says "vet, vet, vet" all men carefully before making any commitments.

 

You're only 24 so you can finish up with your educational pursuits and enjoy your travels while you meet and vet men.

 

Not sure why you think noboby wants you.  You just haven't met him yet.

LorMarie 1361 pts

I understand your struggle. I often feel that I won't find a man that will be faithful so why bother. I once had a white guy tell me that he can't promise that he'd never cheat. When we have bad experiences, we are vulnerable to throwing in the towel and giving up. All I can say is this: It is simply not true that you will never find someone to love or marry you. Just keep living and socializing, he will come along.

 

You even have youth  on your side. Hang in there.

Elle21 53 pts

It's true, there are guys who would never touch a black woman with a 10 foot pole (and please believe there are men who would never touch a white woman as well). Consider that a filter in itself that lets the men who would want you, to float to the top and make themselves available to you. A concern I have is that because of your own pre-conceived notions, you're not open to seeing and accepting these men when they do make themselves available. You mean to tell me, given your credentials and time spent around the world no one has made you feel wanted? I say nay. They are out there, otherwise a blog like this wouldn't exsit. You just need to realize that they are and recognize them when they put out the effort. Break down your walls because your "one" is probably trying to chip away from the other side

PamelaFoster 666 pts

Cheer up "E"! We are all fearfully and wonderfully made in God's image.  If someone has a problem with how you were made then they have a problem with HIM and need to address it upwards :))  You sound like a really beautiful person so don't let others insecurities weigh you down into obscurity.  There's an artist, Lisa McClendon, with a song called Who I Am (2009 cd).  Its a wonderful tribute to women especially those of African descent.  Check out the first verse:  

 

I'm made like Eve

Only I am me

 Though I came from him

He originally Made in His image

Did I forget to mention

He took His time When He made my kind

Come to appreciate what He creates

I won't compare myself to anybody else

Cause I'm me Everything you see is how He made me

 

Link to a friends video with song   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyw_UYyR2E0

 

 

 

Bren82 1395 pts

You have to search within yourself to explore what makes you worthwhile. If you don't value yourself, certain men are able to see that and will use it to their advantage. Guard your heart and know that you are beautiful just as you are.

My initial comment was swallowed by the ether, and I couldn't make it stick.  So my full answer is on my blog:

http://tertiaryanna.blogspot.com/

Ok, trying again:  part A:

 

To the OP

 

I was in your shoes at that age.  If I could go back in time to my 24 year old self, this is what I would tell her:

 

1.  Find a few relationship mentors.  You appear to be a Christian, and it may help you to know that this is strongly encouraged in the Bible, for older women to mentor to the younger ones.  This mentor should have a healthy marriage, ideally for over 10+ years, and be a woman whose values reflect yours.  Ideally, another mentor should be aware of how men think and act.  This person may be a trusted male in your family, or social group: one who is in no position to want to date you.

 

2.  Pay attention to your boundaries, both mental and physical.  People try each other's boundaries all of the time, and it doesn't make them evil or bad, just human.  There are several books on communication, dating and relationships that you can read (try Amazon for suggestions.)  If you are deeply committed to your Christian values and would prefer a courtship model that reflects that, try reading Focus On the Family's "Girls Guide to Marriage" and the equivalent one for guys.  I don't endorse anything else on that site, but the Guides are very well written. 

 

3. You do not have to have a physically intimate relationship until you are ready to do so.  That might mean marriage for you, or it might not.  At your age, there are guys who are also not ready for sex, but do want girlfriends.  Or they are ready, but are willing to wait for a committed relationship.  There will also be guys who want a sexual relationship, and they're not wrong for wanting it, just as you are not wrong for not wanting it.  The best relationships are where two people are on the same page with each other.  Not "the best people", but "the best relationships".  I think if you focus on creating a healthy dynamic, it allows you to see guys as potential team-mates, not potential enemies.  You mention not wanting to fall for their BS, but reflect that to them, you may also be projecting some BS:  meaning - just because you don't want something, doesn't make it bad in general, or them bad people. It's just bad for you, and they can feel the same way. 

 

4. You sound anxious, and this is also normal for you at this state.  Relationships can be indimidating, and there's nothing wrong with you for FEELING this way.  But how you ACT is a different story, and it may not be in your best interests at this point to remove yourself from dating altogether. 

 

5.  Because you're still getting your bearings, date casually:  no sex, maybe even in groups.  Pretend you are Marcia Brady.  This allows you to be more comfortable with men in potentially non-platonic settings, without the pressure of having to determine if a particular guy fits all your requirements.  You know what is causal for your heart, and keep your interactions well on the safe side of this.  Do this a lot.  The more you interact with these guys casually, the more comfortable you will feel entering a relationship with more weight.  Even having guy friends (whom you respect) helps.

 

 

Steven27 124 pts

I am so sorry to hear of your pain but I am glad you had the courage to share your feelings with us.  Remember, God created black women and this is a LIE that black women are somehow not attractive?   I never thought that ever my whole life, on the contrary, I always found black woman Exceptionally Beautiful!  But my whole point which applies to all ethnic backgrounds is that God did not create any ethnic background unattractive or inferior to the other.  There's no such thing as black women are an unattractive race-that's not reality.  Reality is that black women are equally beautiful as any other race.  It doesn't matter what anyone says, the world, society, the men you encounter say or anything else.   You have to accept the fact that you are valued and beautiful as God created you. You are a gift from God--special, beautiful, desirable and God's very best for the man of your dreams.   I feel like you have gravitated to a lot of negative beliefs and accepted those lies and built a large part of how you view yourself and the world through that lens of negative lies.  Now is the time to consider these truths and search for more truth as well and replace those old lies and cling to those truths no matter what.  This is where your life will find freedom in the truth of who you really are.  As I read your story, I want you to know how heartbreaking it was to hear of your sadness.  It's funny because, I was told that black women were not interested in me and I had prayed God would give me a black woman for a wife.  Finally after a long time (years) of never meeting someone special, I gave up and said, "God whatever you want for my life I'll be happy."  I stopped praying for a black woman and in like a few weeks I had met my wife to be and yes she is black and I am a the happiest man in the world.  

I can't see my comment appear, and I'm not sure what's happening with it, so if this is moderated, please excuse the multiple post.

I had an earlier comment, and it keeps disappearing. So, I'll try here.

 

To the OP

 

I was in your shoes at that age.  If I could go back in time to my 24 year old self, this is what I would tell her:

 

1.  Find a few relationship mentors.  You appear to be a Christian, and it may help you to know that this is strongly encouraged in the Bible, for older women to mentor to the younger ones.  This mentor should have a healthy marriage, ideally for over 10+ years, and be a woman whose values reflect yours.  Ideally, another mentor should be aware of how men think and act.  This person may be a trusted male in your family, or social group: one who is in no position to want to date you.

 

2.  Pay attention to your boundaries, both mental and physical.  People try each other's boundaries all of the time, and it doesn't make them evil or bad, just human.  There are several books on communication, dating and relationships that you can read (try Amazon for suggestions.)  If you are deeply committed to your Christian values and would prefer a courtship model that reflects that, try reading Focus On the Family's "Girls Guide to Marriage" and the equivalent one for guys.  I don't endorse anything else on that site, but the Guides are very well written. 

 

3. You do not have to have a physically intimate relationship until you are ready to do so.  That might mean marriage for you, or it might not.  At your age, there are guys who are also not ready for sex, but do want girlfriends.  Or they are ready, but are willing to wait for a committed relationship.  There will also be guys who want a sexual relationship, and they're not wrong for wanting it, just as you are not wrong for not wanting it.  The best relationships are where two people are on the same page with each other.  Not "the best people", but "the best relationships".  I think if you focus on creating a healthy dynamic, it allows you to see guys as potential team-mates, not potential enemies.  You mention not wanting to fall for their BS, but reflect that to them, you may also be projecting some BS:  meaning - just because you don't want something, doesn't make it bad in general, or them bad people. It's just bad for you, and they can feel the same way. 

 

4. You sound anxious, and this is also normal for you at this state.  Relationships can be indimidating, and there's nothing wrong with you for FEELING this way.  But how you ACT is a different story, and it may not be in your best interests at this point to remove yourself from dating altogether. 

 

5.  Because you're still getting your bearings, date casually:  no sex, maybe even in groups.  Pretend you are Marcia Brady.  This allows you to be more comfortable with men in potentially non-platonic settings, without the pressure of having to determine if a particular guy fits all your requirements.  You know what is causal for your heart, and keep your interactions well on the safe side of this.  Do this a lot.  The more you interact with these guys casually, the more comfortable you will feel entering a relationship with more weight.  Even having guy friends (whom you respect) helps.

 

6.  I personally do not think you should dating a man in his late 30's-40's.  Either he's less mature than he should be (so nearer your level of maturity than his) and this precludes him from being a good match.  Or he is as mature as he should be for his age (far more mature than you) and now you have to vet if the power and maturity imbalance is being used to both of your advantages, or just his.  It can be done, but I think it's best done with women who are very confident about their relationship skills (so they feel like a peer to the older man) or who don't want to be the peer to the older man (want someone more dominant, and who will lead them.)

 

7.  Your activities do not seem to allow you to interact with a wide variety of people.  I suggest that you pick one activity, that you enjoy, but that is also very social.  If you are anxious, you need to have your fears challenged by reality, and so you need to interact with a lot of people, but in a low stress way.  Activities that can help this may include a physical sport, like running, cycling, hiking, dancing, or a special interest group, like politics, or volunteering. 

 

8. It might help to talk to a counselor to allay your concerns about healthy relationships.  Not because there is something wrong with you, but because they can direct you to the tools that people use in sustaining healthy relaionships.  That can be helpful if you have not seen that modeled in your experiences.

 

9.  Continue to develop your inner and outer self.   As you do so, you will increase the number of men who are interested in you, and this allows you a bigger pool to fish in, and ups your chances of finding a good match for you.

 

10.  Regarding BW's attractiveness.  There are some men who will just not be attracted to you. Just like there are some men who do not attract you.  Few people are attracted to 100% of their preferred gender, and attraction is so quixotic, that it's not always helpful to worry about it. 

Maybe in parts:

I was in your shoes at that age.  If I could go back in time to my 24 year old self, this is what I would tell her:

 

1.  Find a few relationship mentors.  You appear to be a Christian, and it may help you to know that this is strongly encouraged in the Bible, for older women to mentor to the younger ones.  This mentor should have a healthy marriage, ideally for over 10+ years, and be a woman whose values reflect yours.  Ideally, another mentor should be aware of how men think and act.  This person may be a trusted male in your family, or social group: one who is in no position to want to date you.

 

2.  Pay attention to your boundaries, both mental and physical.  People try each other's boundaries all of the time, and it doesn't make them evil or bad, just human.  There are several books on communication, dating and relationships that you can read (try Amazon for suggestions.)  If you are deeply committed to your Christian values and would prefer a courtship model that reflects that, try reading Focus On the Family's "Girls Guide to Marriage" and the equivalent one for guys.  I don't endorse anything else on that site, but the Guides are very well written. 

 

3. You do not have to have a physically intimate relationship until you are ready to do so.  That might mean marriage for you, or it might not.  At your age, there are guys who are also not ready for sex, but do want girlfriends.  Or they are ready, but are willing to wait for a committed relationship.  There will also be guys who want a sexual relationship, and they're not wrong for wanting it, just as you are not wrong for not wanting it.  The best relationships are where two people are on the same page with each other.  Not "the best people", but "the best relationships".  I think if you focus on creating a healthy dynamic, it allows you to see guys as potential team-mates, not potential enemies.  You mention not wanting to fall for their BS, but reflect that to them, you may also be projecting some BS:  meaning - just because you don't want something, doesn't make it bad in general, or them bad people. It's just bad for you, and they can feel the same way. 

 

4. You sound anxious, and this is also normal for you at this state.  Relationships can be indimidating, and there's nothing wrong with you for FEELING this way.  But how you ACT is a different story, and it may not be in your best interests at this point to remove yourself from dating altogether. 

 

5.  Because you're still getting your bearings, date casually:  no sex, maybe even in groups.  Pretend you are Marcia Brady.  This allows you to be more comfortable with men in potentially non-platonic settings, without the pressure of having to determine if a particular guy fits all your requirements.  You know what is causal for your heart, and keep your interactions well on the safe side of this.  Do this a lot.  The more you interact with these guys casually, the more comfortable you will feel entering a relationship with more weight.  Even having guy friends (whom you respect) helps.

 

6.  I personally do not think you should dating a man in his late 30's-40's.  Either he's less mature than he should be (so nearer your level of maturity than his) and this precludes him from being a good match.  Or he is as mature as he should be for his age (far more mature than you) and now you have to vet if the power and maturity imbalance is being used to both of your advantages, or just his.  It can be done, but I think it's best done with women who are very confident about their relationship skills (so they feel like a peer to the older man) or who don't want to be the peer to the older man (want someone more dominant, and who will lead them.)

 

7.  Your activities do not seem to allow you to interact with a wide variety of people.  I suggest that you pick one activity, that you enjoy, but that is also very social.  If you are anxious, you need to have your fears challenged by reality, and so you need to interact with a lot of people, but in a low stress way.  Activities that can help this may include a physical sport, like running, cycling, hiking, dancing, or a special interest group, like politics, or volunteering. 

 

8. It might help to talk to a counselor to allay your concerns about healthy relationships.  Not because there is something wrong with you, but because they can direct you to the tools that people use in sustaining healthy relaionships.  That can be helpful if you have not seen that modeled in your experiences.

 

9.  Continue to develop your inner and outer self.   As you do so, you will increase the number of men who are interested in you, and this allows you a bigger pool to fish in, and ups your chances of finding a good match for you.

 

10.  Regarding BW's attractiveness.  There are some men who will just not be attracted to you. Just like there are some men who do not attract you.  Few people are attracted to 100% of their preferred gender, and attraction is so quixotic, that it's not always helpful to worry about it. 

To the OP

 

I was in your shoes at that age.  If I could go back in time to my 24 year old self, this is what I would tell her:

 

1.  Find a few relationship mentors.  You appear to be a Christian, and it may help you to know that this is strongly encouraged in the Bible, for older women to mentor to the younger ones.  This mentor should have a healthy marriage, ideally for over 10+ years, and be a woman whose values reflect yours.  Ideally, another mentor should be aware of how men think and act.  This person may be a trusted male in your family, or social group: one who is in no position to want to date you.

 

2.  Pay attention to your boundaries, both mental and physical.  People try each other's boundaries all of the time, and it doesn't make them evil or bad, just human.  There are several books on communication, dating and relationships that you can read (try Amazon for suggestions.)  If you are deeply committed to your Christian values and would prefer a courtship model that reflects that, try reading Focus On the Family's "Girls Guide to Marriage" and the equivalent one for guys.  I don't endorse anything else on that site, but the Guides are very well written. 

 

3. You do not have to have a physically intimate relationship until you are ready to do so.  That might mean marriage for you, or it might not.  At your age, there are guys who are also not ready for sex, but do want girlfriends.  Or they are ready, but are willing to wait for a committed relationship.  There will also be guys who want a sexual relationship, and they're not wrong for wanting it, just as you are not wrong for not wanting it.  The best relationships are where two people are on the same page with each other.  Not "the best people", but "the best relationships".  I think if you focus on creating a healthy dynamic, it allows you to see guys as potential team-mates, not potential enemies.  You mention not wanting to fall for their BS, but reflect that to them, you may also be projecting some BS:  meaning - just because you don't want something, doesn't make it bad in general, or them bad people. It's just bad for you, and they can feel the same way. 

 

4. You sound anxious, and this is also normal for you at this state.  Relationships can be indimidating, and there's nothing wrong with you for FEELING this way.  But how you ACT is a different story, and it may not be in your best interests at this point to remove yourself from dating altogether. 

 

5.  Because you're still getting your bearings, date casually:  no sex, maybe even in groups.  Pretend you are Marcia Brady.  This allows you to be more comfortable with men in potentially non-platonic settings, without the pressure of having to determine if a particular guy fits all your requirements.  You know what is causal for your heart, and keep your interactions well on the safe side of this.  Do this a lot.  The more you interact with these guys casually, the more comfortable you will feel entering a relationship with more weight.  Even having guy friends (whom you respect) helps.

 

6.  I personally do not think you should dating a man in his late 30's-40's.  Either he's less mature than he should be (so nearer your level of maturity than his) and this precludes him from being a good match.  Or he is as mature as he should be for his age (far more mature than you) and now you have to vet if the power and maturity imbalance is being used to both of your advantages, or just his.  It can be done, but I think it's best done with women who are very confident about their relationship skills (so they feel like a peer to the older man) or who don't want to be the peer to the older man (want someone more dominant, and who will lead them.)

 

7.  Your activities do not seem to allow you to interact with a wide variety of people.  I suggest that you pick one activity, that you enjoy, but that is also very social.  If you are anxious, you need to have your fears challenged by reality, and so you need to interact with a lot of people, but in a low stress way.  Activities that can help this may include a physical sport, like running, cycling, hiking, dancing, or a special interest group, like politics, or volunteering. 

 

8. It might help to talk to a counselor to allay your concerns about healthy relationships.  Not because there is something wrong with you, but because they can direct you to the tools that people use in sustaining healthy relaionships.  That can be helpful if you have not seen that modeled in your experiences.

 

9.  Continue to develop your inner and outer self.   As you do so, you will increase the number of men who are interested in you, and this allows you a bigger pool to fish in, and ups your chances of finding a good match for you.

 

10.  Regarding BW's attractiveness.  There are some men who will just not be attracted to you. Just like there are some men who do not attract you.  Few people are attracted to 100% of their preferred gender, and attraction is so quixotic, that it's not always helpful to worry about it. 

I'll add this final point about how you can't attract love if you don't love yourself first.

 

I want to reframe this, because people used to say it to me, and it was incredibly unhelpful:  when you want love, and think you can't get it, then it's hard to feel good about yourself.  If you're told that you can't get love because you don't feel good about yourself, then it's like there's no way to win, and it's very easy to give up when you feel you can't win.

 

Also, because you really do not know what in a person's heart.  There are total esteem wrecks out there, who manage to treat people well, and attract love.  Finally, the initial part of attract happens well forward of getting to know someone's heart and soul.

 

So I'd like to reframe this for you:  when you don't feel good about yourself, it wears down your stamina for dating.  It's a drain on your psyche, and it can make you act in desperate ways, or fail to act when someone expresses an interest.  Self-doubt (an emotion) can, IF UNCHECKED, can lead to self-sabotage (an action.)  However, overweening confidence can also lead to self-sabotage. 

 

Try to develop a positive outlook about yourself, but remember that it's how you act towards others, and how you present yourself to them that will engage them.  Most people are simply too self-focused, and too incapable of reading another person's inner mind to judge you the way you judge yourself. 

 

Your dating confidence will grow as you get the kind of feedback you want, and IMO, and in my experience, that didn't happen until I let myself 1) fail and 2) get out there.  How I felt about myself did not have a direct influence. Only how I acted. 

This was part of a two-comment statement, the first of which disappeared in the ether.  So I put the full text on my blog,

 

http://tertiaryanna.blogspot.com/

 

To the OP

 

I was in your shoes at that age.  If I could go back in time to my 24 year old self, this is what I would tell her:

 

1.  Find a few relationship mentors.  You appear to be a Christian, and it may help you to know that this is strongly encouraged in the Bible, for older women to mentor to the younger ones.  This mentor should have a healthy marriage, ideally for over 10+ years, and be a woman whose values reflect yours.  Ideally, another mentor should be aware of how men think and act.  This person may be a trusted male in your family, or social group: one who is in no position to want to date you.

 

2.  Pay attention to your boundaries, both mental and physical.  People try each other's boundaries all of the time, and it doesn't make them evil or bad, just human.  There are several books on communication, dating and relationships that you can read (try Amazon for suggestions.)  If you are deeply committed to your Christian values and would prefer a courtship model that reflects that, try reading Focus On the Family's "Girls Guide to Marriage" and the equivalent one for guys.  I don't endorse anything else on that site, but the Guides are very well written. 

 

3. You do not have to have a physically intimate relationship until you are ready to do so.  That might mean marriage for you, or it might not.  At your age, there are guys who are also not ready for sex, but do want girlfriends.  Or they are ready, but are willing to wait for a committed relationship.  There will also be guys who want a sexual relationship, and they're not wrong for wanting it, just as you are not wrong for not wanting it.  The best relationships are where two people are on the same page with each other.  Not "the best people", but "the best relationships".  I think if you focus on creating a healthy dynamic, it allows you to see guys as potential team-mates, not potential enemies.  You mention not wanting to fall for their BS, but reflect that to them, you may also be projecting some BS:  meaning - just because you don't want something, doesn't make it bad in general, or them bad people. It's just bad for you, and they can feel the same way. 

 

4. You sound anxious, and this is also normal for you at this state.  Relationships can be indimidating, and there's nothing wrong with you for FEELING this way.  But how you ACT is a different story, and it may not be in your best interests at this point to remove yourself from dating altogether. 

 

5.  Because you're still getting your bearings, date casually:  no sex, maybe even in groups.  Pretend you are Marcia Brady.  This allows you to be more comfortable with men in potentially non-platonic settings, without the pressure of having to determine if a particular guy fits all your requirements.  You know what is causal for your heart, and keep your interactions well on the safe side of this.  Do this a lot.  The more you interact with these guys casually, the more comfortable you will feel entering a relationship with more weight.  Even having guy friends (whom you respect) helps.

 

6.  I personally do not think you should dating a man in his late 30's-40's.  Either he's less mature than he should be (so nearer your level of maturity than his) and this precludes him from being a good match.  Or he is as mature as he should be for his age (far more mature than you) and now you have to vet if the power and maturity imbalance is being used to both of your advantages, or just his.  It can be done, but I think it's best done with women who are very confident about their relationship skills (so they feel like a peer to the older man) or who don't want to be the peer to the older man (want someone more dominant, and who will lead them.)

 

7.  Your activities do not seem to allow you to interact with a wide variety of people.  I suggest that you pick one activity, that you enjoy, but that is also very social.  If you are anxious, you need to have your fears challenged by reality, and so you need to interact with a lot of people, but in a low stress way.  Activities that can help this may include a physical sport, like running, cycling, hiking, dancing, or a special interest group, like politics, or volunteering. 

 

8. It might help to talk to a counselor to allay your concerns about healthy relationships.  Not because there is something wrong with you, but because they can direct you to the tools that people use in sustaining healthy relaionships.  That can be helpful if you have not seen that modeled in your experiences.

 

9.  Continue to develop your inner and outer self.   As you do so, you will increase the number of men who are interested in you, and this allows you a bigger pool to fish in, and ups your chances of finding a good match for you.

 

10.  Regarding BW's attractiveness.  There are some men who will just not be attracted to you. Just like there are some men who do not attract you.  Few people are attracted to 100% of their preferred gender, and attraction is so quixotic, that it's not always helpful to worry about it.  Instead, learn about how to recognize when someone is attracted to you.  Again, there are books on flirting and dating, and these will give you a sense of what people generally do when they are interested in each other.

To the OP

 

I was in your shoes at that age.  If I could go back in time to my 24 year old self, this is what I would tell her:

 

1.  Find a few relationship mentors.  You appear to be a Christian, and it may help you to know that this is strongly encouraged in the Bible, for older women to mentor to the younger ones.  This mentor should have a healthy marriage, ideally for over 10+ years, and be a woman whose values reflect yours.  Ideally, another mentor should be aware of how men think and act.  This person may be a trusted male in your family, or social group: one who is in no position to want to date you.

 

2.  Pay attention to your boundaries, both mental and physical.  People try each other's boundaries all of the time, and it doesn't make them evil or bad, just human.  There are several books on communication, dating and relationships that you can read (try Amazon for suggestions.)  If you are deeply committed to your Christian values and would prefer a courtship model that reflects that, try reading Focus On the Family's "Girls Guide to Marriage" and the equivalent one for guys.  I don't endorse anything else on that site, but the Guides are very well written. 

 

3. You do not have to have a physically intimate relationship until you are ready to do so.  That might mean marriage for you, or it might not.  At your age, there are guys who are also not ready for sex, but do want girlfriends.  Or they are ready, but are willing to wait for a committed relationship.  There will also be guys who want a sexual relationship, and they're not wrong for wanting it, just as you are not wrong for not wanting it.  The best relationships are where two people are on the same page with each other.  Not "the best people", but "the best relationships".  I think if you focus on creating a healthy dynamic, it allows you to see guys as potential team-mates, not potential enemies.  You mention not wanting to fall for their BS, but reflect that to them, you may also be projecting some BS:  meaning - just because you don't want something, doesn't make it bad in general, or them bad people. It's just bad for you, and they can feel the same way. 

 

4. You sound anxious, and this is also normal for you at this state.  Relationships can be indimidating, and there's nothing wrong with you for FEELING this way.  But how you ACT is a different story, and it may not be in your best interests at this point to remove yourself from dating altogether. 

 

5.  Because you're still getting your bearings, date casually:  no sex, maybe even in groups.  Pretend you are Marcia Brady.  This allows you to be more comfortable with men in potentially non-platonic settings, without the pressure of having to determine if a particular guy fits all your requirements.  You know what is causal for your heart, and keep your interactions well on the safe side of this.  Do this a lot.  The more you interact with these guys casually, the more comfortable you will feel entering a relationship with more weight.  Even having guy friends (whom you respect) helps.

 

6.  I personally do not think you should dating a man in his late 30's-40's.  Either he's less mature than he should be (so nearer your level of maturity than his) and this precludes him from being a good match.  Or he is as mature as he should be for his age (far more mature than you) and now you have to vet if the power and maturity imbalance is being used to both of your advantages, or just his.  It can be done, but I think it's best done with women who are very confident about their relationship skills (so they feel like a peer to the older man) or who don't want to be the peer to the older man (want someone more dominant, and who will lead them.)

 

7.  Your activities do not seem to allow you to interact with a wide variety of people.  I suggest that you pick one activity, that you enjoy, but that is also very social.  If you are anxious, you need to have your fears challenged by reality, and so you need to interact with a lot of people, but in a low stress way.  Activities that can help this may include a physical sport, like running, cycling, hiking, dancing, or a special interest group, like politics, or volunteering. 

 

8. It might help to talk to a counselor to allay your concerns about healthy relationships.  Not because there is something wrong with you, but because they can direct you to the tools that people use in sustaining healthy relaionships.  That can be helpful if you have not seen that modeled in your experiences.

 

9.  Continue to develop your inner and outer self.   As you do so, you will increase the number of men who are interested in you, and this allows you a bigger pool to fish in, and ups your chances of finding a good match for you.

 

10.  Regarding BW's attractiveness.  There are some men who will just not be attracted to you. Just like there are some men who do not attract you.  Few people are attracted to 100% of their preferred gender, and attraction is so quixotic, that it's not always helpful to worry about it.  Instead, learn about how to recognize when someone is attracted to you.  Again, there are books on flirting and dating, and these will give you a sense of what people generally do when they are interested in each other.

 

 

Neecy 1975 pts

If I may suggest a therapist. And I mean this in the sincerest of ways. HEY I have gone to therapy for certain things! No shame in my game. LOL

 

Seriously. This line of thinking can only be reframed by receiving proper professional therapy. We have no idea what is running beneath this sister to have such low self esteem and I think she should certainly seek out therapy to help her work this out. I am not sure that comments on a blog will really help her change her overall mindframe our outlook about her situation otherwise although she reached out. She needs to take it a step further and get therapy.

 

I say this because we have post after post and archives on this blog along with commenters that have proven this idea to be untrue.  So its definitely worth considering IMO.

 

And i really wish her the best. I know how hard it is for Black women in the world. But I still have optimism and so do a lot of other Black women. When you can't find optimism, it can break you down and before you know it you are much older and nothing has changed. She needs to get help now while she is still young so that she will not have to go further in life feeling this way which is very unhealthy.

vthewriter 266 pts

 Neecy This is one of the smartest things I've read on this blog. Sometimes big problems need big tools, and I think we sometimes forget to use everything at our disposal. Sometimes it might not be a cultural issue; it might be a very human psychological issue . We all try to analyze things in the context of swirling, but i think we sometimes gloss over the fact that there's a unique individual at the heart of each of these comments. We all want to give advice and share our experiences, but we may not be the best qualified to do so.

 

Thanks, Neecy, for the perspective that I really had not considered. Got to love the positive spin, too.

Alana 2 394 pts

 Neecy I can relate to this quite a bit. Like others have suggested, therapy can work wonders! Just make sure your therapist is thorough, in order to get a proper diagnosis.

 

What type of media do you consume? Depending on your answer, i recommend BW-positive media. I like salsa-inspired positive hip hop, and there are a couple of songs with English lyrics describing "beautiful African features" and "full lips" or "una negra linda" [ a beautiful BW]. Toss the media that denigrates you, or even puts someone else on a pedestal, if it will help your well-being.

The Working Home Keeper 7008 pts

I haven't listened to Chris' response yet, but I did want to say this to the letter writer.  Please know that all white men don't view black women through stereotypical filters.  My husband (white) had never dated a black girl before when we met.  But, he saw me simply as a WOMAN (no race attached) that he was attracted to and he acted on those feelings.  I was just as much of a viable dating and potential marriage partner as any other race of woman on campus (and there were several others girls of various backgrounds (Asian, White, Indian) interested in dating him when we met!).  It didn't matter to him what stereotypes existed about black women.  He saw me as an individual and as someone that didn't fit any of those stereotypes!  

 

"I don’t believe it is possible for them to view me outside of the small box they created for me."

 

There is no box! :)  The only person that can box you in is you.