White Guy Proclaims, “I Refuse to Feel Guilty!!”

White Guy Proclaims, “I Refuse to Feel Guilty!!”

“Please, let us stop shouting from the rooftops about how [black women] shouldn’t date a white man because of slavery.”

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I refuse to feel guilty.  There are many terrible things that happened in the history of our country.  I refuse to feel guilty.  There are many terrible things that happened in the history of the world.  I refuse to feel guilty.  Slavery was absolutely horrible.  I refuse to feel guilty.  White man.  Refuse to feel guilty.  Interested in women of another race.  I REFUSE TO FEEL GUILTY.

"Yep! I said it! I'm EarthJeff!!"

OK, I do have some guilt.  I still feel a twinge of guilt that I never turned in that book report in 5th grade.  I still am uncomfortable knowing that I shoplifted a candy bar when I was 8 years old.  I even still wrestle with the fact that I got ticketed for running a stop sign, immediately moved out of state so I figured that I could ignore it and get away with it, did not care that the letters going to my mom’s address said the fine was increasing and a warrant could be issued for my arrest despite her panic that I was going to be extradited back from North Carolina for this offense.  OK, justice prevails in the end and Michigan got their pound of flesh because when I applied for a program that would include a complete check of my records…. Well…  several phone calls and a large check later… resolved.

Slavery in this country was awful.  Ugly stain on our history.  Does it still need to be an ugly stain on our psyche?  Do we really need to still use it as a reason to have relationships with other races?  Hundreds of years later?  Look, I am a teacher and have heard more lame excuses than you can imagine.  Even my own teenager tried telling his Biology teacher that the dog ate his lab notebook.  Twice.  No lie. But by FAR the lamest thing that I have heard is that black women should not date white men because of slavery.  If that woman chooses not to date outsider her race – for WHATEVER reason – that is certainly her right.  But please, let us stop shouting from the rooftops about how she shouldn’t date a white man because of slavery.

Quit trying to keep her down and quit telling her what to do.  Let her make her own choices.  And finally, I find it interesting that this whole “don’t date each other because of slavery” thing to be only one way and a burden laid on black women, but not on men of both colors. Black men dating white women without this burden being laid upon them is well documented.  White men as well are not  given this either.  I suspect very few white men have been told “Dude, don’t date her… hundreds of years ago.. wow… her ancestors may have been slaves”.  If somebody told me that, I would probably give them the same eye roll that my son got when the dog ate his Biology lab notebook.  Twice.

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CAPT SMOOTH 7237 pts

Let's also keep in mind that the majority of whites in this country have never had an ancestor that owned a slave. On the contrary, my ancestors settled in the northeast and I actually had some that died fighting  for the north to end slavery! Anyone who can blame every caucasian for slavery is as delusional as blaming every black person in the country for the deaths caused by the black beltway sniper a few years ago! Slavery was a dispicable atrocity that puts a stain on the history of America, but nobody alive had anything to do with it! We should remember the past but not let it distort or destroy our future!

Andrew10 23 pts

This is a topic that I find to be kind of interesting.  I am a WM and I have been in an IR marriage for about 16 years now.  My maternal grandmother and her ancestors are from the South, and when I was a kid I heard a rumor that my ancestors from that side of the family may have been somehow involved in the slave trade prior to the Civil War.  In actuality, I don't know whether or not that rumor is true, but either way I don't feel guilty about it.  After all, I didn't personally have anything to do with it, and, to the best of my knowledge, I have not gained any major economic benefit from it (as my maternal grandmother's family was never wealthy).

 

The good thing is that my wife's family and my own family have both been very supportive of us, as my wife's parents have intuitively always understood that their daughter is a free spirit, and my parents are social liberals that grew up in the 1960's.  Although my wife and I live far away from either set of our parents, our son (who is 15 and mostly looks like his mother) has had the opportunity to visit both sets of his grandparents during summer vacations, and he has a close relationship with all of his grandparents (all of whom also love him very much).  We live in a neighborhood that used to be predominantly white, but now has a variety of ethnic groups that live in our community and attend its schools, and our son's friends at the high school reflect that level of diversity as well.

 

My point is this:  everybody in society needs to be held accountable for their own actions (and to a lesser extent the actions of their minor children).  However, people shouldn't let resentment of the sins of the past inhibit their ability to have a better future.  Specifically, I can't travel in time and right historical wrongs, but I can live in a manner in the present that shows respect for all of my fellow human beings of all races.  So therefore that is generally where I limit my focus.

Christelyn 8688 pts moderator

 Andrew10 Well said, Andrew! But...you owe me 40 acres and a mule.

 

Just kidding ;-)

Daphne Rose 138 pts

Thank you for sharing your P.O.V Jeff!

mspbody 114 pts

For the record, no one should EVER move to Michigan and leave unpaid tickets behind. Michigan is one of the most restrictive states regarding licensing issues.

 

red bone 9 pts

I agree with u EarthJeff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ann4950 732 pts

 Pearl

 "Slavery to me, is not a big deal. Slavery made this country rich. Slavery didn't really do damage, in my opinion."

 

Youngester, tell that to those who were in bondage. Yes, people did benefit from slavery.

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CocoaFly 253 pts

@Pearl Slavery made this country rich b/c people were exploited, abused and forced to work against their will. It is the root cause of why black Americans have so many issues today. Don't belittle the sacrifices your ancestors made by saying slavery isn't a big deal b/c it mostly put money in the pockets of white folks. You need to take black studies classes and read slave narratives. And for the record, I've dated white men. I think the issue of white guilt is not about slavery but that white men still benefit from racial privilege.

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CocoaFly 253 pts

@Pearl I know you're giving your opinion and I respectfully disagree w/ you. When you give an opinion expect people to agree or disagree. But to say slavery is not a big deal when MILLIONS of people died from barbaric conditions on slave ships to lynchings to literally working to death. And you're mad about scientists labeling black people as inferior. Guess what? That same thinking was used to justify slavery. And one last thing, next time you go to the OBGYN think about slave women. The founding doctor of gynecology forced enslaved bw to be used in experiments as he was developing what we know to be gynecology today. How would have liked to been in those women's shoes. But hey, slavery is no big deal right? SMH

CocoaFly 253 pts

@Pearl I'm done arguing w/ you. If you think the murder and abuse of millions of people is not a big deal then that speaks volumes. I don't care if it happened a long time ago. History repeats itself when we don't learn from past mistakes, But like I said I'm done. People, teach your children their history and about humanity so we don't relive slavery, the Holocaust, Sudanese genocide, 9/11, pre- Lovings era, etc. Freedom can be easily taken away, that's why the past is a big deal. Ok I'm getting off this ride that's not going anywhere.

Brenda55 19276 pts moderator

 CocoaFly  Pearl 

I do not entierly agree with you here. Slavery ended well over 150 years ago and quite frankly has little bearing IMO on the disparity of wealth and power between blacks and whites today.

 

 Black history, black studies and slave narratives do put those times in perspective but those writings are about a world that no longer exists.

 

Those stories  from a pre- industrial age do not have much resonance for me when it comes to the current situation of blacks in the 21 century. A lot has happened between then and now that has to be taken into consideration.

 

Further there was wealth and class stratification among whites during slave times as there is now and not all whites were slave owners.  Much of this country's current population does not descend from slave owners so did not benefit from it directly or indirectly.

 

Another point is other cultures were once slaves, some more recent that American blacks, have lived under crushing discrimination and have gone on to prosper. 

 

I agree partially with your last sentence however. WP is real and it does cause disparities in power and wealth in society.  That cannot be disputed. WP is defended and will continue to be defended vigorously.  Sorry that is the game and quite frankly any race of man in the lead position will do the same. Much of the conflict between races is on this very issue with non-whites wanting to be in the same position that whites hold today.

 

Is there a need for guilt.  Again IMO no and I say that as a black women who has had to slug it out to get my piece of the pie. The playing field is what it is.  One either gets in the arena which is not level and slug it out for yours or you sit on the sidelines and take what ever left overs are thrown your way.

 

Some groups have fought better in that unlevel arena than others and thus have faired better that others. They have found a way to use the current wealth and power disparities to their advantage to improve their lot.

 

In 150 years American blacks gone from slaves to having a thriving working, middle class and a small but growing wealthy class.  That is a relatively short period of time for that to happen and while 25 % of American blacks are what one call the underclass. The other 75% are doing as well as anyone in this same un-level arena.

 

How come some American black have done well and others have not living in the same country suffering the same effects from WP. The answer to that questions does not lay in the past.

 

 

tonyrog 114 pts

 Brenda55  CocoaFly  Pearl Amen

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Daphne Rose 138 pts

 Pearl You have a right to your opinion, but to say that slavery is not really a big deal is very insulting .  I have relatives that grew up in the jim crow south, people who were lynched by the klan, who had to live in poor conditions because of rules set into place after slavery to keep blacks "in their place". Slavery is not a big deal? Please google "peonage" and "Convict leasing" to see how blacks were re-enslaved in the prison system after slavery for 80 years after slavery. Read the books "Slavery by another name" and "worse than slavery"  and the list goes on. If your goal is to remove  slavery from every little thing we do and  don't do today so that we can stand  on our own and not use slavery as an excuse so to speak I understand, but do not diminish the brutality  of what slavery did to blacks in this country and in the 100+ years that followed. it was only 40+ years ago that blacks could drink out of the same drinking fountain.  You sound very young to me (early to mid 20's maybe?) if you were born in the late 80's early 90's I can see why you can so easily dismiss it as "no big deal" but for those who are only 2-3 generations removed from slavery it is seen in an entirely different light and to them, it is a big deal. Henry Louis Gates does shows researching the geneologies of famous people black and white. With whites and asains , he could trace many of their geneologies back centuries, I saw these celebs celebrate with tears in their eyes  as they discovered, they have the blood of revolutionaries, kings, etc in their blood line but with blacks with a few exceptions, he cannot locate their ancestry past slavery. they do not know their history because it has been cut off. Not a big deal?

 

I would agree with you that slavery did not ruin America (totally), but it  was not just ignorance and fear, but also ARROGANCE and PRIDE. I see Americans calling Foreign people  all kinds of names (Towel heads, gooks,camel jockeys, etc.) but these nations are kicking our A** in education and technology (we currently rank 25 in the world in math and science). Many of their kids are multi lingual and more advanced educationally than American kids who barely have command of english but are very fluent in textaneese. The arrogance of Americans is astounding and they continue to sleep at the wheel while our kids are getting dumber and dumber  and this is the generation that is going to move us ahead? I think not! 

 

Every great nation that has fallen has done so because of their pride and arrogance they got to big for their britches as the old folks used to say and got taken down.  Rome and Egypt are good examples of that. take a good look around you, America is not going to continue to be the top dog  for long if things continue on the downward spiral as they are.

 

 

 

Toni_M 18712 pts moderator

 Daphne Rose  Pearl How does one choosing to not let slavery define them relate to the fall of America?

 

Not to say I necessarily agree with everything Pearl said, but this rant is rather confusing to me. 

 

A person can appreciate the limitations placed on them in this country caused by RACISM. Slavery was about business more so than preservation of the white race. The two are not mutually exclusive. They only became mutually exclusive in circumstances where the white male slave owners could not keep their hands off of their female slaves and babies were being made. To preserve the identity of the white race amid this failure to keep it in their pants, the white female womb became the sacred beacon of whiteness that to this day white supremacists are obsessed with protecting (for the purpose of bringing pure white children into the world). White males could not be relied onto do this, because they will legit put it anyone and anything. White racism is concerned with protecting the power and privilege of their group through discrimination and bigotry.

 

I am not a slave. My parents, who felt some of the affects of Jim Crow, were not slaves. My grandparents, who felt it even stronger, were not slaves. Even persons fighting tooth and nail to escape slavery did so with the understanding that they were fighting for a better future. I do not understand this argument that we are under the oppression of post-slavery and that is why we are so far behind, when I'm fairly certain this was NOT the behavior and feelings of recently freed slaves. A person in that time period was willing to risk life and limb to be able to read, but today it's not uncommon to have black kids proudly declare their illiteracy. There was an outcry for decent textbooks under the "separate but unequal" era in this country. Today, a black child is harassed by ignorant school mates for "trying to be white" by learning.

 

I do not claim the hurt and pain experienced by those who were DIRECTLY impacted by slavery. Even INDIRECTLY impacted a couple of generations later. But it's time that some black people got it through their brains that somewhere along the line, somebody dropped the ball. You can't go from ancestors determined to make the most of their place in a highly racist country and defy the odds to the severe backwardness of a growing permanent underclass racing to the bottom. 

 

I do not need anyone to feel sorry for ancestors I do not know and have never met. I would rather take pride in knowing that those ancestors would be proud of me for moving forward and being the best person I can.

 

THIS is what is fundamentally lost on so many African Americans: They are beholden to the shame of slavery and still seeing themselves as marked by that history rather than getting the hell up and doing something to make it so the people who fought for freedom and advancement during that time period would have something to be proud of. I do not imagine those people as looking backward, but looking forward. Black people need to look forward. You can both acknowledge the past and be focused on a future that is not beholden to it.

Daphne Rose 138 pts

 Toni_M  Pearl  Toni I find it AMAZING the people who are  quick to say   blacks should forget slavery NEVER tell the JEWS  to forget their HOLOCAUST. THEY TALK ABOUT  IT EVERY CHANCE THEY GET. (I doubt you be telling them to shut  up about what Hitler did to them any time soon) Why ???because they do not want the world to forget what was done to their loved ones  . They have as a people  rebuilt their lives they are moving forward, but they do not dismiss the pain and suffering of their loved ones, AND THEY REMEMBER EACH ONE OF THEM BY NAME . They progress and they move foreward, but in the process they DO NOT FORGET and I do not hear anyone telling them to forget either. They remember those that suffered while they build their lives and continue their legacy. I should know ,  I have attended a synogouge for 20 years.

 

Tto remember the suffering  of those who have gone before us is not to pity them it is to HONOR and REMEMBER them. I am thankful for the sacrifices of my ancestors and I HONOR THEM  by doing well  but just because I never met them does not mean their sacrifice is not important  and should not be spoken of or remembered. If you chose not to that is on you, but as for me I will honor their memory  by doing well with my life  and I will talk of their  sacrifices  as I know of them in honor and  not complaining.  

 

 

 

 

 

Lili2009 1826 pts

Whenever someone brings this up, I'm reminded of that absurd Sherri Shepard who rendered Whoopi Goldberg almost speechless with her notion that black Americans should ALWAYS date and marry each other first because of slavery. Whoopi, very well-versed in the swirl, was, shall we say, surprised (or maybe not. Sherri is the same woman who was confused at the question, "Is the Earth round or flat?"  The mind boggles at the self-imposed limitation!  (And what with Sherri's VERY generous salary, could she make up for slavery some other way other than who she sleeps with?) I've ALWAYS had the hots for white guys, latino guys, etc etc., so this is not my struggle. But, I do feel for any woman if they believe their attraction to a white man is a betrayal of slaves or slave-era icons (like Frederick Douglass--ooops! He married a white woman, y'all!)

keimiasmoon 1031 pts

 Lili2009 Whoopi stay givin Sherri Shepard the WTF face. Shepard always comes out with something ignorant to say. 

Veron 1387 pts

I love this.

 

There is a, I think deliberate, misunderstanding involving the idea of "never forgetting your history", lest it happen again.  A lot of people have jumped on that and skewed it to mean "never forgetting the sentiment of your history", an entirely different thing that helps many people rationalize playing blame games and disconnecting from others based on something that is no longer even in living memory.

 

No, we mustn't forget our history. It is so important, because just as individuals must learn from there mistakes, humanity as a whole must do the same. But how much sense does it make to foster the same attitude that begot atrocity in a time when we're seeing a light at the end of the tunnel of ignorance? We don't want separation and discrimination based on race to happen again, so why in the hell are people living in a mindset of separation and discrimination today? I mean, how ridiculous can one sound, living in the 21st century, with an iPhone and a mortgage, talking about white slave masters? No.damn.sense. Unless the endgame is actually to return to the era of race inequivalency. Then carry on, because that nonsense will only lead to just that.

temple 793 pts

Liked this POV, EarthJeff.

I'm in complete agreement.  that is all.

harleyq2 190 pts

Well, it is hard to shoulder guilt for something you personally did not do. In the same line of thinking if a black women decides to date someone of Asian or Hispanic/Latin decent what would be the excuse be? Don't date an Asian guy because of the Pearl Harbor bombing or don't date a Hispanic/Latin guy because Columbus was a dirty stealing bastard. When there is no intelligent argument, then the human thing to do is to resort to some horrifying scare tactics. So, instead of saying don't date a white guy because 'I am really a racists and don't think a black women should mingle with the races,' the argument is 'don't date a white guy because of slavery or because he will use you or (fill in the blanks).'

 

The people (of any colour) who do not believe in race mixing will always have something horrifying to say about the issue. They will always use identity, which is very important to everyone, as the gun to instill a sense of fear. Either way or colour or ethnic orgin, these arguments are rooted in hate and no amount of excuses can hide that fact.

Brenda55 19276 pts moderator

 harleyq2 You make a good point here.  You ONLY see these kinds of arguments leveled against white men never any other race of man on the planet. Further it is always leveled at the man and NEVER the woman.

 

Yeah I know why....WP.

 

If I have said it once I will keep saying it.  Proxy War. I  am not getting mixed up in that nonsense.

SirLoinDeBeef 2490 pts

 Brenda55 I'm curious - didn't some white women own AA slaves? - and, as a matter of historical record, there were literally 100's of freedman blacks who owned AA slaves.

Let's share the guilt around, folks ... wallow in it ... hey, that sounds kinda fun ... sorta like swirling.

CaribCanadian 89 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef  Yes, white women were definitely slave masters as well (not sure if it there were in the U.S)

 

There is a book called "Jamaica white" about The White Witch of Rose Hall Jamaica. Annie Palmer owned & tortured her slaves until she was finally murdered by them. So if people want to play that "white male slave master" game, they need to include white women as well

EarthJeff 3239 pts

 SirLoinDeBeef "wallow in it ... hey, that sounds kinda fun ... sorta like swirling."

Geez..... You and Brenda are certainly my two favorite freaky people in the Crew here....  ;)

AnInterestedObserver 1028 pts

THANK YOU. I am so sick and tired of White women getting away with the racist crap they did in the past and that they still do today.

 

 

But too many people would just rather blame Black women for everything than ever say/do anything to offend "poor sweet innocent" little Miss Anne, SMH.

SirLoinDeBeefBrenda55

I hope you know that during slavery, black people had to be owned.

Lately, many Americans are trying to re-write history.

Most, if not all, the supposed slaves owned by other black men, were in-fact, free men who willed themselves to their benefactors, so that if they are apprehended by the authorities, they would have someone of renown in the community to vouch for them as being their property.

reciprocity57 7 pts

Sorry harleyq2

 

New to the site

 

No sure why my above posting appeared under your name.

 

Cheers

reciprocity57 7 pts

SirLoinDeBeef

I hope you know that during slavery, black people had to be owned.

Lately, many Americans are trying to re-write history.

Most, if not all, the supposed slaves owned by other black men, were in-fact, free men who willed themselves to their benefactors, so that if they are apprehended by the authorities, they would have someone of renown in the community to vouch for them as being their property.

ann4950 732 pts

 reciprocity57  "I hope you know that during slavery, black people had to be owned."

 

And, that is why many AA people moved to northern parts of the U.S.   Also, Canada and Mexico.

reciprocity57 7 pts

harleyq2

Your analogy is patently ridiculous – a bomb dropped on Pearl Harbour took minutes and even if we took the entire duration of the war into consideration, how is that the equivalent of nearly 300 years of chattel slavery; followed by eighty years of Jim Crow. This is not the slavery of old where children of slaves did not automatically become slaves. The barbarity of western slavery is, not even the children sired by white slave owners and masters were immune form the trading block. Do not drag American of African descent into acts of the Japanese at Pearl Harbour. The participation of African American in this conflict was very limited in scope, and the jobs that were assigned to them were the most dangerous, yet at the same time in certain parts of the US, they were not allowed to vote or participate in any meaningful way that the average white American took for granted. Your assertion is nothing more than White American mindset. The Japanese bombed America, therefore they bombed whites. As for Christopher Columbus, he was an Italian. Lastly, you seem to be conflating Hispanic/Latin, with race rather than a culture (ethnicity). There are Hispanics of various racial backgrounds.

 

“The argument is, don't date a white guy because of slavery or because he will use you,” do have resonance with many African Americans, since they’ve been down this road before.

reciprocity57 7 pts

harleyq2

“The argument is, don't date a white guy because of slavery or because he will use you,” do have resonance with many African Americans, since they’ve been down this road before.

You must understand if African American women or African American men for that matter are leery of White American men and their intentions with respect to dating African American women, it is not without merit. Broadly defining culture as the manifestation of the human existence, for over 400 years of American history, which included slavery and Jim Crow a culture was developed where white America saw themselves as being racially superior to the native peoples of North American  (First Nations), Asians and of course, those of African descent who were chattel. Laws can be passed to give equal rights to individuals, but one has to understand, passing a piece of legislation giving rights does not mean the culture has been dismantled. It often takes generations to see any tangible results of such piece of legislation. This is not merely putting pen to paper - Lyndon Johnson - and instantaneously, a culture developed over 400 years magically disappears. 

 I’d like to state categorically that I have absolutely nothing against interracial relationships, whatever the flavour and have been in a few.

 However, it was pretty common to hear, not in the too the distant past, white men nauseously and explicitly stating they would “like to have sex with one (black woman) before I settle down with my white girlfriend” (insert name) or a white girl/woman.”

 

reciprocity57 7 pts

harleyq2

I recently read an article of one repugnant white male who, bragged that he was dating three black female simultaneously, he impregnated two just months a part; did not assist them with the pregnancies and after the children were born vacated their lives - nothing unusual there, since this happens ever so frequently in our society, and could not be considered race specific. However, his rational for doing so was that the two boys he sired (and I’m using the word sired here, since it seems so animalistic) were too dark. According to him, these boys would now be in their early or mid-twenties. What was even more galling from this “specimen of manhood,” he boldly stated that for all he cares they could be in prison. He then went on to say, that shortly after leaving these three women, he went out and found him an Asian woman to whom he got married. This just smacks of the slavery mentality of many white men vis-à-vis the African American woman.

Try as you may, a number of black men will walk away or even disappear altogether from their offsprings’ lives, but would never say they did not care whether their sons were in prison.

Even today, white men will approach black women hoping for a hook-up and the first utterance is, “I’d never had a black girl,” and in their warped white supremacist mind, those are the magic words that would have her falling on her back, wings spread, ready to be mounted. If they are totally ignore, they’ll walk away but not before other utterances are made; the most common of which is you are treating me as if I’m the black person – saying it nicely.

 All I can say to black women if you are approached by any man - Vet! Vet! And Vet again.

 

MZ Elf 2660 pts

I was in the gym and on my cell  earlier but, I wanted to touch on your story.  I laughed at your idea  that moving out of town you would ignore paying the ticket. I got a seat belt ticket and was maybe 17 or 18 and ignored it. It was not a good idea. In an incident with my bff's cousin a year so later, another story about not assuming your friends cousin is ok to go in a store with, I felt like an idiot for ignoring the seat belt ticket. Someone gave me the wrong info that if you are a minor, you can ignore it.

Brenda55 19276 pts moderator

"  I suspect very few white men have been told “Dude, don’t date her… hundreds of years ago.. wow… her ancestors may have been slaves”."

 

 

Good point and a good post.

 

When you see this stuff in writing and break it down you can clearly see just how stupid it all is.

 

Think of all of the people who hook up with the enemy during war time. Or the folks who hook up after the conflict ends.  How about the people who married the people who once occupied their land. Let the past stay in the past there is nothing to be gained by holding attitudes like this.

Veron 1387 pts

 Brenda55Let the past stay in the past there is nothing to be gained by holding attitudes like this."

 

Hear, hear! Not to mention, when you make an automatic enemy out of a specific group of people, you end up alienating all the members in that group who do not want to be your enemy, and might just be on your side. And that's just poor strategy.

EarthJeff 3239 pts

 Brenda55 "When you see this stuff in writing and break it down you can clearly see just how stupid it all is."

So true.  It is easy to say something really stupid and not even think about how it sounds.  When you see it in writing, you often do say you yourself.....  "Dang, that REALLY does sound clueless"

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 1843 pts

It's one thing to acknowledge and be sorry it happened, and another to let it hinder our progress. I have found that those who constantly harp on slavery (any skin color), are also being left behind in other areas....

My latest conversation: Donna Summer - Queen of Disco ...RIP : (

ann4950 732 pts

 BlackWomenDeserveBetter

 "It's one thing to acknowledge and be sorry it happened, and another to let it hinder our progress."    I totally agree.

KfromVA 335 pts

I am kind of tired of the slavery arguement to be honest. I don't know anyone that was a slave or who owned a slave so there is no need for anyone to feel guilty about dating who ever they choose. By telling BW what to do isn't that in fact creating another form of slavery?

MZ Elf 2660 pts

Seriously! I remember renting a documentary about Africa. Loius Gates Jr. He was surprised that a descendent of an African slave trader trading other africans not only had zero remorse, she shrugged and said it was what it was. You got the impression that she felt it was all business. Nope Earth Jeff, I don't see what that has to do with now. Never did but, that show was eye-opening on other issues of being "black" as well.

Karla 18221 pts

Darn right.  Any WM who feels guilty is in the same boat as those BP living with a slave mentality,

Patricia Kayden 1669 pts

Why should any White man alive feel guilty about slavery?  Ridiculous.  If there are BW who refuse to date White men because of slavery, they're crazy.  There are no slave masters alive today from the Antebellum South. LOL!

 

Let's keep it real.

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 1843 pts

 Patricia Kayden It would be a May/December romance to the extreme...LOL!

My latest conversation: Donna Summer - Queen of Disco ...RIP : (